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Hi All,
I bought an XDAII about 2 weeks ago and am very please with it, however, when I make and receive calls, the sound seems to be very muffled. The people I call also comment that I sound very muffled too. Is there something wrong with it, or is this usual ? I was also wondering if a Radio Stack upgrade may cure this problem.
Here are my current versions etc.
ROM Version 1.03.00 USA
ROM Date 09/24/03
Radio Version 1.05.12
Protocol Version 1337.12
Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Rob.
unfortunately it doesnt.
i know what you mean . . . but i upgraded my radio stack to 1.10 and it's still the same sound
i just hope it's just a setting of how the audio is decoded by the radio (sort of like the nokia setting you can turn on and off (at the expense of battery power) forgot what it's called.
cuz if it's not that, then it just means it's got a lousy speaker hehehe
hehe.. Thanks for the reply mate. At least I'm not the only one with a muffly speaker n mic
Ta,
Rob.
no prob :wink:
i think everybody has the same problem, only they just dont think it's a biggie (or aren't as picky as us) since the audio STILL is intelligible anyways
Has anyone else encountered a problem when either using the phone normally or through the speakerphone option, there is a slight rattling when the volume's set high?
This is quite annoying if common and is something other speakerphone phones seem to suffer from.
Anthony
XDA2 not as good as it looks
Hi there
I have my XDA2 for 5 months and I´m in love with it, whenever one of my freinds mention its faults I get upset :?
But, we all know that the XDA2 is FAULTY big time, sofware not well developed yet, and yes, we think twice about buying software (same apply to hardware)
I have learn how to live with all this, still think that the XDA2 is a top tool for work and everyday life and I hope that other machines come to the market to compete, then we will get value for money
Bad Sound Quality
Hi,
I also bought a MDA II (T-Mobile Germany) some weeks ago. I really like it, but I also think that the sound quality is not the best. There are two effects that annoy me:
1. I can hear a high pitched beep in the speaker, always when the device is switched on (not only when talking on the phone but always if it is switched on). It is not very loud, but I can hear it clearly in quiet environment (my ears are still too good I think...).
2. The sound has to much "base" and to less "treble". Well, you can understand the person on the other end but this is definitly the worst sound quality I ever had on a phone.
This is the only thread I could find discussing this problem, leading me to the conclusion that either most phones are good and I got a bad one or most people don't bother if a very expensive phone sounds like a $5 toy...
Is there a chance to get a better sounding replacement phone or should I learn to be happy with it?
Regards,
Oli
Sounds Rubbish
Hi guys
i noticed the sound isn't as good as the XDA I when playing mP3's or MPG files on it.
does anyone know if there is anything that can be done to correct this ??
other than buying a set of speakers to go with it, doesn't seem much else ! ;(
any solution for this???????
I've got the same problem, however I've noticed that the sound is clear when I use the XDA 2 with my tomtom navigator the voice instructions are very clear, its strange + when I use the speaker phone the other party can hardly hear me.
sorry to tell you this, but i have got mine repaired and strange that they changed the motherboard to get rid of this problem, means it is a mother board problem not speaker or software.
Re: Bad Sound Quality
ruiner said:
Hi,
I also bought a MDA II (T-Mobile Germany) some weeks ago. I really like it, but I also think that the sound quality is not the best. There are two effects that annoy me:
1. I can hear a high pitched beep in the speaker, always when the device is switched on (not only when talking on the phone but always if it is switched on). It is not very loud, but I can hear it clearly in quiet environment (my ears are still too good I think...).
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The high pitched beep is caused by the poor filtering of the power electronics of the background lightning of the touchscreen. It is worse if the light is set to low. If you set it one or two notches higher, the beep sound will go away (or at least you won't hear it anymore).
Hi guys.
I have a little audio problem with my Himalaya/i-mate/XDA II/MDA II/Qtek 2020 or whatever you like to call it.
The internal speaker seems to have a contact with something metallic or hard plastic. At the max earpiece volume, when calling, the ringing tone is distorted. When lowering the volume, it does not do this. It seems that, when the plastic membrane is moving, to reproduces the loud sound, it touches something hard and it distorts the sound. Does anyone have experienced this? I want to try to fix this. I paid hard won money for this marvellous device, and I do not want my experience to be ruined by bad audio.
Thanks for the help guys!
Not sure if its the same thing but when i played any sound it crakled a little. Did not bother me until the camera sound went on and off every 1 second. Did a hard reset and seemed ok until it happened again so i did another hardware reset went through all the programs i had instaled until it happened again. So i reset a third time without instaling that program(cant remember the name of it) but it works ok now.
I know what you mean Patrick..and if you hold your thumb over the earpiece it sounds a bit better, though of course muffled.
This is something that does bother me as I sometimes use the loudspeaker call option. Other phones don't have this problem in loudspeaker and it surprises me the II does this, as apart from a slightly rattly volume adjuster the build of my II is significantly better than the XDAI.
Just one of those things we have to put up with in order to have such an otherwise great piece of kit, though I'm equally surprised the manufacturers didn't notice it!
Anthony
Thanks a lot !
Yeah, your description and the thumb thing is exactly what I mean. I wonder if it's the speaker membrane itself or a contact with something? Maybe it could be fixed?
Thanks a lot guys!
It may be a warranty claim, you need full volume when using the speakerphone, get in touch with the service centre.
I have the same exact problem... The sound distorts if you have it set too loud.
I guess it's just the el cheapo speaker or poor design.
Hi guys, i have the same problem and its bugging me alot, any sugesstion or solution???? is it a hardware problem or did we install some software that case this? my XDAII still has warranty do you sugest me to go for service center or just live with this problem.
Thanks
Well Iam not saying its a good thing but Iam happy to see Iam not the only one experiencing this problem with the speaker although I dont own XDA II but XDA IIi or Qtek2020i whatever way you wanna call it. I also wondered if it is a harware problem couldn't we replace the speaker with a better quality one? In my case this jitter mettalic sound does not happen only in speaker mode but also in normal mode as long as the volume is set close to max or max.
My Qtek2020i has the metallic sound only when it's a large amount of humidity and very hot outside.
It seems that the speaker suffer a lot from humidity, it also happen when i keep it in my jeans pocket and i prespire a lot. After half an hour when it dries out, everything is ok.
I wrote this post and realized it was too long, here is the summary. If you think you can help, please read the more detailed version about my TyTN issues.
Many thanks guys, SINC.
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Summary:
- Having trouble hearing people with TyTN set on loudest setting.
- Don’t like bluetooth headsets (wear glasses). Speakerphone is not an option due to place of work.
- Is there a program, rom upgrade, tweak or anything anyone can think of to boost the ear piece on the handset?
- Appealing to your compassion and advice. Being financially strapped to begin with, I saved for a long while to make this purchase and I feel like I’ve just wasted my money.
Any Ideas or suggestions?
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Detailed Post:
Hi there. After much deliberation and research I laid my poor P910i to sleep and purchased a TyTN, my first PPC. It was a big choice between the much cheaper and faster Eten M600+, but from reading the Eten forums, the M600+ unit had MAJOR problems as a phone, particularly low caller volume (Difficult to hear caller).
So I bought a TyNT due to the positive reviews and its stability. My problem is this...
I don't have a return policy because I bought it unlocked and through a website as there were no local retailers in Toronto. Upon getting the phone and trying it out, a horrid realization sunk in - the caller volume was much softer than what I’m use to from my P910i. So far, I’ve had MAJOR difficulty hearing people clearly and its driving me nuts. Its almost impossible to have a conversation outdoors and i've look at every setting volume possible on this phone.
I've read someone else’s post about the volume issue here on the forum and he just received snooty remarks about bluetooth headsets, rather than a constructive look into solving this problem via rom upgrade, patch or tweak.
So i want to state this now...I don't like headsets and bluetooth gadgets. I wear glasses and they become fiddly, i lose them and it drive me crazy (trust me 3 bluetooth headsets later). I can't use speakerphone due to my work situation and i also find it a rude distraction to others. So, by comparison....the P910i had clear reception and call back volume..and this unit rates at around 20% of the P910i volume.
I'm hoping that their might be some sort of tweak, or program that uses compression algorithms or something that can boost the volume in the ear piece.
Would any rom upgrade help? I'm afraid to flash anything because basically.. i have no idea what i'm doing... and just incase there is another work around.
These are my roms...
Rom Version: 1.18.255.3
Rom date: 07/22/06
Radio version: 1.03.03.10
Protocol: 32.34.7010.01H
ExtROM: 1.18.255.106
Does anyone know of any issues with this set? Could i just flash the Radio rom to something later? would that help?
I'm really appealing to your compassion and advice. I feel like I’ve just wasted my money and being financially strapped to begin with, I'm feeling like crap and am not enjoying my new purchase - something that i was really looking forward to.
From all the positive reports, the TyTN sounded like a wonderful product and its feature set won me over... I just wish I could resolve this problem and start enjoying my phone.
Thanks very much and look forward to hearing your suggestions and feedback.
Best Regards,
SINC.
my headset is pretty loud and I don't even have it at 70%
but you're not the only one stating low volume, what is your phone number (serial) ? it could be a bad batch,
or try to move the phone around your ear it's a bit bulky you might not be holding it right (sorry but since you said you checked all the volumes that's all I can think of )
Serial..
darky said:
my headset is pretty loud and I don't even have it at 70%
but you're not the only one stating low volume, what is your phone number (serial) ? it could be a bad batch,
or try to move the phone around your ear it's a bit bulky you might not be holding it right (sorry but since you said you checked all the volumes that's all I can think of )
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Hey - thanks for replying....
The serial i have is... :HT636F209476
Do you know which is the bad batch serials?
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What about the radio rom ugrade - thing it would help or would i make the situation worse?
Thanks.
The TyTN I had (before returning it due to touchscreen calibration problem; now waiting for replacement) showed the same behaviour: even when I turned up the volume fully, it was a lot less loud than my trusted old Magician.
I am not sure this is a bug. There was some public discussion about kids damaging their hearing by turning up their MP3 players' volume too much. I think (but I may be wrong) that there is now a legal limit to the volume of such devices, and HTC just followed that regulation.
What you can do, though, is to use a set of these headphones that really plug into your ears (an example would be the Sony MDR-EX71). These indeed cancel out most of the ambient noise when you put them in your ears, so that you should be able to clearly hear people you're on the phone with.
Unfortunately there is no adapter (yet) for the TyTN, so you will have to either cut the original HTC phones behind the microphone box and solder a plug to the ends, or (that's what I did) unsolder the original earbuds from the microphone box, then cut and solder the earbuds of the newly bought earphones.
Btw, although it's a bit of a hassle (the soldering), it's worth it. Not only does it help with your problem - also the sound quality is a lot[/] better, so I can indeed use my TyTN (when I get it back) as an MP3 player. I did the same modification on my Magician which I now have for two years, and I never regretted having cut a brand new pair of not-very-cheap earphones.
Hope I could help you.
Cheers
Daniel
Hi guys,
I've been having alot of problems regarding my Hermes incall volume - it's whisper quiet. It doesn't seem to be the ROM (i've tried 3 now, the official WM5 and 2 WM6) nor the radio (i've tried 1.40 and 1.43)
I've also had a look on the forums to no avail, any fix seems to not apply to my system.
I know it's cheeky to start a new thread, but if I can't find a resolution I think I'll just sell it on the bay.
Cheers
p.s - I have ensured that it is to the fullest using both the scroller and the speaker during a call. The rest of the volume on the phone is fine, loudspeaker and ringing etc.
Ringing volume comes through your speaker in the back, and so does the speaker phone option. Your head piece might be going bad, that might be the reason why you dont hear it loud.
If the phone is still in warranty, then send it to be replaced!
I know that other posts on this topic exist, but I've done a bit of digging and believe the problem doesn't lie with the speakers, so hence, new post. Sorry it's so long...
I've had my HD2 a week now and have noticed the same problem as some others here (it's the crackling during calls, it's driving me nuts, even on the lowest volume setting). But something about the "quality" of the distortion got me thinking (ie it didn't sound quite like what I would expect from a speaker taken beyond its capabilities).
I therefore tried a few different things to try and see where the problem was:
First I needed to identify if this was source related, therefore I tried playing different things through the earpiece. I downloaded audioroute from xda (I forget where) and tried routing all sorts of things through the earpiece. I tried music, skype, video and normal voice calls and the only one that caused crackling appeared to be the normal voice calls. I made sure my sources were loud enough to rival the loud calls, but no matter how hard I tried, it was only the calls that caused crackling (at least the type that was p****** me off)!
Next I tried to see if it mattered which output I routed the sound through. I tried the earpiece, the back speaker and the headphone jack (with both the supplied headphones and some good quality Sennheisers). Again, I found that all sources, other than the normal voice calls, were fine. What surprised me though, was that the normal voice calls taken through the headphones crackled too (not just through the earpiece and back speaker).
Finally, I tried to determine the effect of volume on the crackling. To my surprise, I found that with my Sennheisers, the crackling did not appear to get worse with increasing volume. I chose the Sennheisers here because they could handle volumes way in excess of what the phone could produce.
These tests lead me to conclude that the audio path including the amplifier and speakers in the phone, may not be to blame. I also believe the problem is voice call specific. My understanding of what happens to a normal voice signal is somewhat limited, but here's what I think. I reckon the digital signal processing in the decoder for the phone signal may be to blame, as it has to pass through this BEFORE moving through the rest of the audio path (the volume independence was the clincher). This does provide some hope of a fix though, since the decoder is probably in software so can be modified. I'm thinking radio ROM here though, so not something we can hope to mod ourselves.
Anyway, sorry for the long post, if you're still with me, what do you think? Am I talking a load of bull. Can any of you replicate what I've found?
Interesting post, I have the same issue with my HD 2, definitely gone backwards from my previous phone which was an N95, I'm always adjusting the volume to reduce the distorted crackle when talking to people, the speaker phone is borderline crap as well, at least with the N95 you can actually hear a little bass.
when you say crackling do you mean like the person talkin on the other line says your voice gets messed up ? because this has been a problem with my hd2 since i baught it...about 1 month ago and im running 1.66 latest official WWE rom....
I had this problem with my first HD2 and also with two replacements phones from my provider T-Mobile in the UK. These phones were running ROM 1.43.
I have found the problem is completely fixed (on the same handset), by updating to the new 1.66 ROM.
I didnt really understand how to flash my phone with a new ROM despite reading a few posts. However, after following the thread (The Complete HSPL Video Guide - 621930 - in the HD2 ROM Development forum), I realised it was very easy, and had successfully flashed to the new ROM within an hour.
I have had and still have this problem. I havecontacted HTC, flashed different ROMs, and have had a replacement but the problem still persists. I am learning to live with it as the good out weigh the bad.
Thanks for all who have replied so far. I like the phone too and don't intend to change to any other, but may consider sending it back for repair. I also have a rattle (not the volume switch though, this is coming from near the rear speaker, this definitely doesn't seem right). I run the 1.66 WWE official ROM and it hasn't fixed the problem for me when I moved from 1.48 which it shipped with.