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Hello all,
I've tried searching for this, but didn't find anything about it, so I hope that's not due to me having bad searching skills :?.
I have an MDA Vario from T-mobile (dutch), and am using it without letting the preloaded software run (by softresetting right after initial WM5 setup). It works perfectly fine, but I have one problem with it, being that even though I manually set the phone's network to T-mobile, when I go into Belgium it still switches to another network.
Since I have an unlimited GPRS plan, I just leave msn on all the time, but I don't want it to be causing any GPRS traffic while roaming on another network (which would be expensive), and since internet is the only thing I use the phone for (I have another phone I use for general voice calls), I would like it to just not register to any network at all when it can't find my home network.
Oddly enough, my motorola MPX200 (running windows mobile 2003) seems to be having the exact same problem (which is why I was surprised to not find any topics discussing this before). My colleague who has the same phones (MPX200 and Vario) also has the same issue.
Since I live really close to the border, I have to be very vigilant about this to avoid high roaming costs... If I can't fix this on the phone side, I guess I'll have to ask T-mobile if they can place a roaming bar for me.
Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? Or, in some odd MS logic, is it supposed to behave like that??
Have you tried going to "Phone > Menu > Options > Network >Set Networks" checking only your network, unchecking the rest, and setting "Network Selection" to "Manual" ?
Ahh, actually I hadn't. I tried to go to that screen earlier, but it wouldn't open. I guess I had my eyes in my backpocket since it clearly says to terminate the active connection and try again .
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll see if it helps next time I head into belgium far enough to lose T-mobile coverage .
Good luck !
Well took me til now before I could test it, went into belgium to go to the cinema (saw chronicles of narnia... don't bother unless you enjoy childish disney flicks...) but it still switched over to another network...
Guess I'll just get a roaming bar on it, until I get smart enough to code something up to disconnect GPRS on other networks (pah right ).
Unless anyone else got any ideas?
Hi!
Well, I have the same problem.
I selected "manual network" and erased all preferred networks but my own.
Still t switches to the network with stronger signal.
T-mobile-Germany hotline said that this is the normal (??crazy??) functionality of the phone. Stunned.
Hello!
I have exactly the same problem with my Qtek 9100, I live in France and work in Switzerland. 2 or 3 times a day I have to check if the selected network is still the good one if I don't want to pay the roaming cost.
I've contacted a french developper to see if he is interested in the development of a little software that could help us... I will keep you informed!!!!
Thierry from France.
My device is O2 Mini S. Sometimes it just goes dead and nobody can call me. The funny thing is that I can call and the signal bar is in good condition. When I restart the device, signal bar goes dead too for some time and I just can't establish connection to the service provider any more. After some time it just appears to be ok and I can call again. Even incomming calls work. WTF??!? Is it something wrong with device or my service provider? It's actually very annoying that nobody can get in touch with me when i REALLY need to...
kexz said:
My device is O2 Mini S. Sometimes it just goes dead and nobody can call me. The funny thing is that I can call and the signal bar is in good condition. When I restart the device, signal bar goes dead too for some time and I just can't establish connection to the service provider any more. After some time it just appears to be ok and I can call again. Even incomming calls work. WTF??!? Is it something wrong with device or my service provider? It's actually very annoying that nobody can get in touch with me when i REALLY need to...
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Sounds like a device issue more than service. Have you contacted O2 to complain about it as it may be that the XDA needs replacing. I know my Nokia started doing something similar and would lose network for no reason even while my partners' phone (also Nokia on O2) was fine and had a full signal strength.
Try setting the network manually rather than automatic, i seem to get better signal this way.
kevo
Thanks, this seem to have worked. Haven't got any missed call in 4 days... However, this is very odd, why does it happen with automatic network detection?
losing connection, no calls, no sms
i have had the same problems,
manual network selection works.
also take a look at the preferred networks list !
in my case a natwork, i have no access to was selected.
have a nice day
t.
Hi Guys,
I am a newbie.
Well i recently got my O2 Mini S.It has thge same problem.Evn when i am on the network and the network bar shows full range,i get missed call alerts.Should i upgrade the ROM?
Is there any other soultion ?
As kevoefc said I have set the network to Manual.Hope that works !!
i added a Cellular Signal Enhancer to my phone it gave me 1-2 bars in areas where i get zero
My P3600 phone goes insane sometimes, and will not dial out (hangs up immediately after dialing without ringing), or hangs up within 5s of me answering. Does this happen to anyone else, and if it does, what do you change to fix it?
jchap2k
Same here...
I don't know why this happens...
Me also
Running the new HTC official ROM, I noticed it first with the upgrade, I make a call like voicemail from the attention prompt and I put the phone to my head and the call is ended after like 5 sec. I though at first my ear was hitting end but tried it without moving the phone anywhere and it still will randomly end calls right after I try to make them... tried disabling smart dialing and that seemed to work at first but I could have just been lucky because it didn't keep working... anyone else besides us three?
I also lose calls or conversations break in the middle. I went to HTC service and thet recommended me to change the SIM with a newer one. I did that today and I only lost one call so far (but I was sending an MMS while talking to a customer service rep so it might be related to that). If things improve I will let you know.
Mihaig, any news about your SIM change as connection dropping solution ?
Regards
BelMaseto said:
Mihaig, any news about your SIM change as connection dropping solution ?
Regards
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I tried turning off UMTS (using only edge), and so far I have not had any dropped calls/immediate hang ups. Would getting a new SIMs card allow me to turn back on the UMTS bands?
I did have a sim card go bad that had to be replaced. The phone wasnt dropping any calls, then all of a sudden just couldnt find the network. My new card has dropped a lot of calls lately.
But i'm not too worried, my service provider thinks its there network fault and I the complete call is free as long as I phone the person back.
Anybody have a 'settings' solution, I would be very interested.
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I tried turning off UMTS (using only edge), and so far I have not had any dropped calls/immediate hang ups. Would getting a new SIMs card allow me to turn back on the UMTS bands?
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Well, so far no more dropped calls after turning off UMTS. I wonder if a new SIMs card would help in this matter. (mine is only 1 year old though).
Only with Car Bluetooth
There are some gaps in the conversations when I use the Nokia Carset bluetooth but with the P3600 itself no problems so far (just 1.5 week old). I do have some problems with the SD card, ones two days the info is corrupted and I need to format the SD card.
As far as I have found out, the problem has to do with 3G, the 3G hasn't got coverage everywhere ( at least here in DK ) and when the phone switches, it sometimes lose connection for a couple of seconds. Switching off the umts did the trick for me, no more hang-ups or lost connex, but then again, no more video-calls or streaming, so it's a choice... :/
Hope the next update will fix this, if there is a next one... P
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As far as I have found out, the problem has to do with 3G, the 3G hasn't got coverage everywhere ( at least here in DK ) and when the phone switches, it sometimes lose connection for a couple of seconds. Switching off the umts did the trick for me, no more hang-ups or lost connex, but then again, no more video-calls or streaming, so it's a choice... :/
Hope the next update will fix this, if there is a next one... P
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There is a known problem with many service providers and HSDPA. If you have the phone on automatic while in 3G mode, when your phone connects to data the phone will switch to HSDPA just for the data transmission (if your provider supports it), during the transmission calls are not received and usually sent to voicemail. This doesn't happen with all providers, but it does with many of them. You can turn off just the HSDPA and not the 3G with this tweak program http://www.fit4cat.de/thread.php?threadid=263. On my phone I have no problems with normal 3G, it is just HSDPA that is the problem.
Hmm, I already tried that program but I still had the same problem even after turning off the HSDPA only. It never happens when UMTS is off completely though. I figure when I want to use the internet I will turn UMTS back on and when I just need it as a phone I can turn it off.
Sorry folks, dumb question: where can I turn off UMTS in my trinity and only have EDGE enabled?
Thanks for your help...
mfg OK
Press the green button to start the phone, then Menu/Options. Select the 'Band' tab and change the upper box to GSM.
Leave the lower box at 'Auto'
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Well, so far no more dropped calls after turning off UMTS. I wonder if a new SIMs card would help in this matter. (mine is only 1 year old though).
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I replaced with a new Cingular/ATT 3G sim and still the same problem... I'm going to also try to turn off UMTS to see if this fixes it... mostly I notice when calling voicemail from the notification tab... Oh yeah, it now says ATT as my service...
I have this problem, on the Orange and T-Mobile network, with WM5, and WM6. Have the latest radio, the works.
Bit of a joke that this happens to be honest.. a phone that has 3G/UMTS but that won't allow a certain number of calls when it switches. Pretty fundemental flaw if you ask me!
I've set band to GSM, let's see if it fixes the problem. Will download the aforementioned hack this evening.
Ah, I see it's the operators problem, not the phone's. Flipping amateur of orange not rectify this before shipping..
I've used HTweakC to disable HPSABCD(sic) and will see if the problem stops.
Not a SIMcard problem
HI Guys!
I work in a Mobilephoneshop for a Network Provider, and i had the same problem.
The first trinity that arrived in the shop was mine
And this little bas... droped many calls.
I talked with the tecnics from my prov. first we changed the sim, but same problem. Reflashed Rom same problem.
It has something to do with teh HSDPA, evrytime my trinity connectet them, the calls was dropped, the bad thing was, we have a HSDPA antenna in teh shop
Only the change of the devise worked.
Hope was helpfull and sorry 4 my bad english!
mastah
See above, use HTweakC to disable HSDPA, but leave 3G enabled.
I recently unlocked my G1 to work with the ICE Network here in Costa Rica.
I was actually stuck for like 3 hours thinking about flashing and trying differen methods for the activation because for some reason it wouldn't catch the 2G Data Services (After I Followed alot of APN Settings etc)
When I was about to give up , I saw what seemed like a new icon (which ended up being that it was receiving data)
But I also noticed the R in the signal strenght icon, which I managed to figure out was Roaming.
This has not gone off since I got the phone, I got Donut 1.6 , I got the phone yesterday, It works perfectly, It receives calls, Dials, Msgs fine, everything like my old S.E phone, the internet is even a tad faster, but I'm kinda worried about the Roaming sign being there.
I'm not really worried for any International SMS like it was reported, because the crappy service here doesn't even have that, so It won't happen, and I don't even think Roaming exists here.
Any help to that?
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I recently unlocked my G1 to work with the ICE Network here in Costa Rica.
I was actually stuck for like 3 hours thinking about flashing and trying differen methods for the activation because for some reason it wouldn't catch the 2G Data Services (After I Followed alot of APN Settings etc)
When I was about to give up , I saw what seemed like a new icon (which ended up being that it was receiving data)
But I also noticed the R in the signal strenght icon, which I managed to figure out was Roaming.
This has not gone off since I got the phone, I got Donut 1.6 , I got the phone yesterday, It works perfectly, It receives calls, Dials, Msgs fine, everything like my old S.E phone, the internet is even a tad faster, but I'm kinda worried about the Roaming sign being there.
I'm not really worried for any International SMS like it was reported, because the crappy service here doesn't even have that, so It won't happen, and I don't even think Roaming exists here.
Any help to that?
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You might want to post your APN settings so others can see if you need to change something.
name:ICE Celular
apn: icecelular
proxy:172.27.10.4
port:8080
username:blank
pass:blank
server:172.27.10.4
mcc:712
mnc:03
Out of noobing around, I tried to play with the APN settings, but I went back to the old ones, now my Internet doesn't work..
http://modmyi.com/wiki/index.php/Carrier_APN_Settings#ICE_.28Costa_Rica.29
Thats the only thing I saw. Saw a couple other places that had the same info. If that don't work then maybe someone else can help you thru.
This isn't an APN problem, it is a SIM problem.
Your provider has one set of numbers on your card, and another set of numbers that actually identify the network, and they don't match. Technically, from the phone's point of view, you *are* roaming, even if it is the same provider. From the provider's point of view, you *aren't* roaming.
Up until cupcake, we had that same problem here in Canada when using the "Fido" network (which is owned and operated by "Rogers"). The network identified itself as "Rogers", the SIM cards identify themselves as "Fido", the phone think's its roaming.
So; you don't need to worry about roaming charges when you are actually connected to the correct network.
BUT; You don't have an easy to read display to tell you when you are *really* roaming, nor can you make configurations that are based on whether you are or are not roaming.
Edit: You might be inclined to report it as a bug against AOSP. Even though it technically isn't a bug, the workaround for it needs to be input and that needs to originate as a bug report. http://source.android.com/report-bugs
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This isn't an APN problem, it is a SIM problem.
Your provider has one set of numbers on your card, and another set of numbers that actually identify the network, and they don't match. Technically, from the phone's point of view, you *are* roaming, even if it is the same provider. From the provider's point of view, you *aren't* roaming.
Up until cupcake, we had that same problem here in Canada when using the "Fido" network (which is owned and operated by "Rogers"). The network identified itself as "Rogers", the SIM cards identify themselves as "Fido", the phone think's its roaming.
So; you don't need to worry about roaming charges when you are actually connected to the correct network.
BUT; You don't have an easy to read display to tell you when you are *really* roaming, nor can you make configurations that are based on whether you are or are not roaming.
Edit: You might be inclined to report it as a bug against AOSP. Even though it technically isn't a bug, the workaround for it needs to be input and that needs to originate as a bug report. http://source.android.com/report-bugs
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Thank You very much.
I actually wasn't really worrying a whole lot, because Roaming doesn't exist here in Costa Rica. ( We are expected to barely get 3G this year, and there is a wait list for that for about 200,000 people ).. If your signal goes out, thats it, you got no signal .
thanks for the quick reply, another thing I wanted to ask. I've had the phone since like Sunday, and When I got it it was Version 1.01, So I got 1.5 Cup Cake, and eventually 1.6 Donut without even trying the phone at any point, I'm getting alot of force close msgs, for something regarding android action or something like that, I don't recall the exact msg, but I keep getting it , when going to the home from a application (any) or doing something rly fast, it blacks out, resets the desktop and shows up again, I read somewhere you had to do a factory reset (which bugs me because for some reason mY internet wasn't working until like 5 hours after I unlocked the phone).. Thanks
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Thank You very much.
I actually wasn't really worrying a whole lot, because Roaming doesn't exist here in Costa Rica. ( We are expected to barely get 3G this year, and there is a wait list for that for about 200,000 people ).. If your signal goes out, thats it, you got no signal .
thanks for the quick reply, another thing I wanted to ask. I've had the phone since like Sunday, and When I got it it was Version 1.01, So I got 1.5 Cup Cake, and eventually 1.6 Donut without even trying the phone at any point, I'm getting alot of force close msgs, for something regarding android action or something like that, I don't recall the exact msg, but I keep getting it , when going to the home from a application (any) or doing something rly fast, it blacks out, resets the desktop and shows up again, I read somewhere you had to do a factory reset (which bugs me because for some reason mY internet wasn't working until like 5 hours after I unlocked the phone).. Thanks
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Yeah, a factory reset might help. Especially when you've done that many updates over a short period of time.
Write down your APN settings on a piece of paper and do the factory reset. It will STILL have 1.6, it will just clear the user data, which after just one day, won't be much anyways. Better to get it cleaned up now rather than wait until you have a big pile of configurations you don't want to lose.
Thanks, Did that, now my G1 Is much faster and won't crash.. Awesome
Hello everyone,
I just bought a Moto G4 16 GB with Amazon Ads for my wife, but we are facing a very annoying problem: the carrier signal always dies after 24 hours give or take. We tested with a different SIM card and the same thing happened. When this happens the device only shows "Emergency Calls Only" and we have to reboot the phone in order to get the signal back.
So, is anyone else facing this problem? Is this really a problem with this phone in particular or every moto g4 has this problem? Should I return the device to amazon?
Thank you very much for any information you can give me!
Zadornov said:
Hello everyone,
I just bought a Moto G4 16 GB with Amazon Ads for my wife, but we are facing a very annoying problem: the carrier signal always dies after 24 hours give or take. We tested with a different SIM card and the same thing happened. When this happens the device only shows "Emergency Calls Only" and we have to reboot the phone in order to get the signal back.
So, is anyone else facing this problem? Is this really a problem with this phone in particular or every moto g4 has this problem? Should I return the device to amazon?
Thank you very much for any information you can give me!
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No problems here since I got my phone last week and I have T-Mobile. You might have to check your apn settings with your carrier.
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No problems here since I got my phone last week and I have T-Mobile. You might have to check your apn settings with your carrier.
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I tested the SIM card in a different phone and it worked flawlessly (I also use T-Mobile). The strange thing is that the phone gets the signal very well during more or less one day, after that I have to reboot to get signal again.
Well, this is probably a problem in the device. I already asked Amazon to send a replacement.
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I tested the SIM card in a different phone and it worked flawlessly (I also use T-Mobile). The strange thing is that the phone gets the signal very well during more or less one day, after that I have to reboot to get signal again.
Well, this is probably a problem in the device. I already asked Amazon to send a replacement.
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Try my APN settings to see if it helps, but locations very important
Zadornov said:
I tested the SIM card in a different phone and it worked flawlessly (I also use T-Mobile). The strange thing is that the phone gets the signal very well during more or less one day, after that I have to reboot to get signal again.
Well, this is probably a problem in the device. I already asked Amazon to send a replacement.
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I also have the cellular data always active checked off
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Try my APN settings to see if it helps, but locations very important
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Thank you, but I just use the t-mobile network. In fact, my carrier is called campusSIMs and it is a MVNO that uses t-mobile network. So, my APN configs are a bit different from yours.
However, I didn't know about this mobile data thing. I didn't touch the developer options. Maybe, it can be a good idea.
Thank you!
It won't be your APN settings since that controls your data settings. If the sim is ok then it could be your phone.
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I'm seeing a similar problem with the data portion of the network (also on T-Mobile). While I'm able to send and receive calls and texts, data doesn't work. There's no indication that it's attached to LTE or even 3G (just a standard signal bar with no other information). I moved the SIM card back to the old phone it was in and it works fine.
Things actually worked yesterday, so something happened overnight to break it.
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I'm seeing a similar problem with the data portion of the network (also on T-Mobile). While I'm able to send and receive calls and texts, data doesn't work. There's no indication that it's attached to LTE or even 3G (just a standard signal bar with no other information). I moved the SIM card back to the old phone it was in and it works fine.
Things actually worked yesterday, so something happened overnight to break it.
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That could possible be the APN settings. Although usually it's the opposite, they don't work at first then they update from the network later on. Most times the APN settings will set themselves but on the odd occasion they need to manually edited. I don't use T-Mobile but the APN settings are easy enough to find.
Damaniel said:
I'm seeing a similar problem with the data portion of the network (also on T-Mobile). While I'm able to send and receive calls and texts, data doesn't work. There's no indication that it's attached to LTE or even 3G (just a standard signal bar with no other information). I moved the SIM card back to the old phone it was in and it works fine.
Things actually worked yesterday, so something happened overnight to break it.
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Sounds like you need to manually enter the APN settings. What you describe is exactly what happens when it hasn't loaded an APN.
I'm "kinda" having an issue here. It's a little different though; the phone works ok for a while (for me about 3 hours, usually), and then I still get an LTE indicator, but have no network connection (get errors in apps/"No internet" page in chrome).
Other times, I lose LTE and get locked in 3g (H indicator), and can only get LTE back by going to Settings/More/Cellular Networks/ and toggle preferred network mode to 2g or 3g, let it connect (H or E), then toggle back to LTE.
Motorola responded to a bad Amazon review requesting I post asking for help on their forums.
Relevant link:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...ction-with-LTE-and-strong-signal/td-p/3377242
I'm active over on their forums also and it's good to post over there in case you ever want to do a soak test. They look at your posts there when they ask for soak testers. As for your problem, I've seen it shift back and forth if you are in an area between towers and one isn't sending out LTE. If it were that I wouldn't think you'd get it back so easily. There's an app, don't remember the name, that will show the towers and signal relative to your location, If might be interesting to look at that.
Having the same issue with radio. Just replied to your post, Kalash.
Ok, we got a new phone from Amazon and it has the same problem. So, I believe this phone does not work very well with MVNOs.
I notice that the problem is that the phone cannot reconnect to the network after losing the signal. For example, if you go to an area with bad signal and, eventually the signal vanishes, the phone will not be able to reconnect to the carrier network. The phone only reconnects after reboot. Airplane mode does not solve the problem.
This does not happen with my Blu Life One X. So, I think it is a software problem.
Zadornov said:
Ok, we got a new phone from Amazon and it has the same problem. So, I believe this phone does not work very well with MVNOs.
I notice that the problem is that the phone cannot reconnect to the network after losing the signal. For example, if you go to an area with bad signal and, eventually the signal vanishes, the phone will not be able to reconnect to the carrier network. The phone only reconnects after reboot. Airplane mode does not solve the problem.
This does not happen with my Blu Life One X. So, I think it is a software problem.
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That's not true on all mvnos' apparently. My wife's phone is on Consumer Cellular, an AT&T mvno and it's never done that. We've been in a no service area several times and it's always connected immediately when getting service back.