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Does anyone experience the free program memory problems in XDA Mini? In my case, after a day of usage, the memory reduce to 14 mb, when doing a soft reset, the free program memory go up to 24 mb, means I need to soft reset every days?
Note: normally I use the phone, Pocket Informant (calendar, contacts) and sms only.
Instead of doing soft reset, just go into:
Settings - System - Memory - (Running Programs tab).
You'll probably find a lot of open programs there. Close them.
Seems to be a major design fault in the Windows Mobile OS. But then again this is product from Microsoft we are talking about - not exactly a shock that they would, without hesitation, release software with such a major failing.
I think what IvorNeo 2 means is that even without any active programs, the storage/program memory will become very low over time. This has happened to me as well. With only Activesync and Batmon 2 active, memory level fell to sub-500K level and phone needed a soft-reset to regain functionality. Phone was not in use at the time (charging).
There are some other threads discussing how to free up memory, but I haven't come across any fixes for this particular bug (yet).
i have the same problem
in my s100 , the memory reduce to 19 mb,after 2 or 3 days when doing a soft reset, the free program memory go up to 27 mb
mhtay
There are some other threads discussing how to free up memory, but I haven't come across any fixes for this particular bug (yet).
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Very nice , if someone can solve this bug
Regards
For me there are are 3 reasons why memory starts to decline:
Activesync eats up about 3MB each time you sync up and though it returns some when you kill the app it does not return the entire amount
html cache files when I surf with the device - gotta empty these along with the cookies...etc
duplicate processes and notification ques that pile up when you soft-reset the device. Over time these tiny bytes add up.
There's no fix for the main culprit of the memory loss - Activesync, maybe newer versions won't be so bad.
the same problem to me, I`m nor sure if it`s beacuse of aactive sync
This happens to my girlfriend's Mini and she does not browse nor does she use Activesync. Also I installed a program to get rid of the duplicate ques. In theory then she should not lose memory but she still does. It is just how Windows works....when you use programs you never get back 100% of the memory upon closing. Soft resets are just a necessary evil with Windows.
The latest version of SKTools has an additional neat feature to free-up RAM.
sk tools very useful program
but even this one works not so good as a soft reset.
Or with 64 mb RAM you can use oxios memory
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
be sure your programm memory less than 21mb while trying to free your memory up.
I have quite a lot of programs installed, most of them in Storage and TT5.x in SD card. Most DLL's also in Storage. I set my Prog Storage memory to 6.5-7 MB and I have over 30 MB for programs after applying SKTools FreeUp RAM utility.
rustoss said:
Or with 64 mb RAM you can use oxios memory
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
be sure your programm memory less than 21mb while trying to free your memory up.
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Isn't this a smartphone software? Will it work on wm5?
find out!
for magician good solution
@rustoss,
does this little applet close the running processes automatically once exitted?
thanx
hibernate.exe emulate filling memory till 90% & then system trying to clean possible RAM by itself i think so, i know exactly this action do the SKtools's freeupRAM, noone prog or process cannot be terminated by both.
closeapps.exe can!
a question about the topic: Rustoss do u have posted any prog here? because I'm not seeing it if it is
MocciJ
No, just put
Hi, I really like using emulator on my wizard. But I need around 33MB Program memory free to use one of my favorites. Is there any way to get that kind of program memory free? After a soft reset I have around 27MB free , what can I do to free up about 5 to 6 MB more?
Please someone help me out on this one?
Thanks!
Buy a storage card, thats what they are for.
boboki said:
Buy a storage card, thats what they are for.
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Thnx for you reply, but I'm talking about Program memory, not Storage. I own a 1GB storage card, and I know what they are for
I'd like to know too, I only have 25mb free after soft reset. I'm guessing you don't have any Today screen plug-ins, which gives you 2mb more than I, as I have Pocket MSN, PHM Launch, SmartSKey, OmapClock, and vBar all running. btw, is the program you want to run PocketGBA, because that's the app. I want to free up my program memory for in order to play 32mb carts?
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I'd like to know too, I only have 25mb free after soft reset. I'm guessing you don't have any Today screen plug-ins, which gives you 2mb more than I, as I have Pocket MSN, PHM Launch, SmartSKey, OmapClock, and vBar all running. btw, is the program you want to run PocketGBA, because that's the app. I want to free up my program memory for in order to play 32mb carts?
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Lol, yes, that is the app I want the free memory for, nice to see another emu fan.
And yeah, i have to no today-screen plugins loaded. I really hope someone has a solution to this.
I hope so too as well, but so far you have the most free memory of anyone i've seen on the forum. Too bad we can't apply storage extended rom memory to program memory like previous OS'...
yeah, I understand why it's usefull to have the program mem seperate from the storage, but it was pretty cool to be able to increase your program mem with the slider...
But back then all of the memory was the same RAM no matter if it were used for programs or storage, now with persistent storage it's seperate memory and the flash memory is much much slower you wouldn't want to reallocate it like that anyways.
so there isn't a solution for this?
Try running in safemode
Safe mode releases all the plugins and programs to run in memory.
SPPOCKETPLUS have this utility.
hi
I use MemMaid and the running process that uses the most memory is "gwes.exe".
the problem is ,that the amount of memory it uses just keeps growing,rising on a daily basis .I've found that a soft reset brings it right down again :lol: ,but then it starts to rise once more .
Does anyone have a similar problem?
Is there any way of bringing down its memory use without soft reset?
markbrudney said:
hi
I use MemMaid and the running process that uses the most memory is "gwes.exe".
the problem is ,that the amount of memory it uses just keeps growing,rising on a daily basis .I've found that a soft reset brings it right down again :lol: ,but then it starts to rise once more .
Does anyone have a similar problem?
Is there any way of bringing down its memory use without soft reset?
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same to me. 10MB was the size of it. killing it makes the device freeze
don't kill gwes, it is a system process, stands for Graphics, Windowing and Events Subsystem.
i dunno why you get the memory leak, i don't. i always thought spb pocketplus is the culprit, but someone just claimed he had no leaks while using spb+. but give this a try if you happen to use it...
Same here and that is not just with gwes but with many other system files, but gwes is of course the biggest. Isn't this an issue with WM5?
I also use OxiosMemory and try to mitigate this by forcing the processes to release resources not in use, but that does not elimate this issue completely.
harryk1372 said:
Same here and that is not just with gwes but with many other system files, but gwes is of course the biggest. Isn't this an issue with WM5?
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no, the explanation is not this simple. i run the same wm5 as you and i dont have this problem.
cmonex,
Can I ask you what apps you run? It might be the apps I am running that you do not run is causing the memory leak.
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cmonex,
Can I ask you what apps you run? It might be the apps I am running that you do not run is causing the memory leak.
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i leave these constantly running all the time:
magicbuttons
taskmgr v1.6 (from buzzdev)
uptime
also usually leave these running:
totalcommander
opera
messages (sms)
occasionally using:
iGO 2006
Netfront 3.3
PQZII
vijay's full terminal screen hack
ftpsrv
phm regedit
tre regedit
adobe acrobat
mobipocket
wmirc
softmaker textmaker (wow sucks why no real vga)
tcpmp 0.71
hope this helped what apps are you running?
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hope this helped what apps are you running?
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Thanks for that. What I run is quite a few and some are same as yours. The biggest difference is that I run Wisbar Advance 2 and Wisbar Advance Desktop to skin the GUI.
The apps I am constantly running:
Wisbar Advance 2
Wisbar Advance Desktop
SEVEN (mobile push email)
ATOK (IME for Japanese language)
DefSIPChange (changes default SIP)
PQz
The apps I am running occasionally:
Backup and Restore
GSFinder
MemMaid
Oxios CloseApps
Oxios Hibernate
PHM RegEdit
JpegCapture
TCPMP
VeriChat
Warm Reboot
GB-SOFT Tweak
Pocket Tweak
I will have to check the ones I am constantly running to see if any of them is causing this problem but it could be the first two on the above list.
hi
I run:
contacts
calendar
comm manger
internet explorer
resco file explorer
MemMaid
games
These I run most of the time and I frequently have to switch them off in settings/system/memory in order to keep a reasonable amount of memory free
However gwes.exe never decreases
Can anyone see a link?
markbrudney said:
hi
I run:
contacts
calendar
comm manger
internet explorer
resco file explorer
MemMaid
games
These I run most of the time and I frequently have to switch them off in settings/system/memory in order to keep a reasonable amount of memory free
However gwes.exe never decreases
Can anyone see a link?
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hummm i didnt list the builtin apps but what i use from them is contacts, comm manager, PIE (very rarely), messages (only for sms), word... (sometimes the other office stuff too) would use calendar too but i always forget to note my todos in it
+ and i forgot to list nPOP (for emails) and a screenshot maker (magic something)..
anyway what you run doesn't sound too bad, if you really use no today plugins.. i got no idea.. what ROM version do you run?
The growth is because it caches icons (start menu - programs - settings) to speed up the display. At least that's my best guess!!!
hi
rom version:1.30.107 wwe
I did a soft reset today and gwes.exe went down to 4.22MB
I then ran only the wifi (comm manager) and gwes rose to 4.35MB
I ran it again after switching it off in settings/system/memory and it rose to 4.78MB
when I switched it off again in settings/system/memory it came down to 4.56MB but its obviously where the leak is.,because I didn't run anything else.
the problem is how do I stop it?
Hi all there,
same problem with my german VPA IV (Vodafone) even after several ROM upgrades (Jasjar, qtec, new vodafone ger) no changes of this strange behavior
I really hope, there's anybody out there, who can help us with this annoying thing.
This gwes.exe issue is experienced with WM2003SE as well. I found this in one of the threads in Windows Mobile Team Blog.
"With WM2003SE, I had issues like GWES.exe growing until I ran out of RAM. So, I purchased WM5, hoping the repurposed strata flash and new OS would resolve the issues."
You can also refer to below for gwes.exe in detail.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ui5/html/wce50conshellanduserinterface146.asp
Someone was saying earlier in this thread that gwes.exe caches icons. That might be true but may not be just icons and that explains why gwes.exe grows. Or, it might be that some apps you are running are causing memory leak but that is not easy to spot on.
A workaround to this I use and can recommend to anyone having this problem is Oxios Memory 1.40. It's free!
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
One of its apps is Oxios Hibernate. WM_HIBERNATE is a window message that is generated by the Windows operating system and sent to an application when system resources are running low. All applications should get the message and handle it by attempting to release as many resources as possible by unloading processes, destroying windows, or freeing up as much local storage as possible without damaging the internal state of the system.
I normally run this whenever the free memory space gets low like down to 15MB before my device gets unstable. I normally gain quite a bit by reducing the sizes of gwes.exe and all other processes running are occupying and that I don't have to reboot my device everyday. Check the size of gwes.exe with MemMaid before and after you run this and you will notice how effective it is. :roll:
thanks harryk1372,
Oxios Memory 1.40 is great and I managed to release 3MB of memory.
However none of it came off gwes.exe.
Just a matter of interest ,how many times should I use Oxios Hibernate?
Every time I press it,I get some memory back.
markbrudney said:
thanks harryk1372,
Oxios Memory 1.40 is great and I managed to release 3MB of memory.
However none of it came off gwes.exe.
Just a matter of interest ,how many times should I use Oxios Hibernate?
Every time I press it,I get some memory back.
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Maybe that gwes.exe did not have any resource to release at the point you ran Oxios Hibernate and it was already close to the bare bones. Try running Oxios CloseApps as well as Oxios Hibernate. CloseApps closes processes running in the background and that releases the memory used by those.
You do get some memory back by running Hibernate multiple times but the actual amount you get back is very small after the first run although the dialogue may say it is like 2 to 3MB released every time. I am not sure why this is but I think it is no use running it multiple times. Just run it once or twice a day when you find that the free memory is low.
As I wrote in the earlier post, Oxios Memory is just a workaround I found. It does not eliminate the problem completely and the memory resources used by the processes running will never go down to the level of right after the reboot of the device. I experienced that gwes.exe gradually grows in several days to the point when I need to reboot my device even with running Hibernate from time to time. It's just that I don't need to reboot it like everyday.
thanks harry
thank you very much
hey i had the same problem that is mentioned here....
i was running spb pocket plus when i noticed this....
now with ilauncher and spb diary i have around 25 mb at start up and hardly if any memory leak....
with ilauncher alone i have around 27.5 mb
also some software have been updated like pocket informant webis mail..my experience with them shows me that they have next to no memory leak...
what i have noticed is that applications which are not designed for wm5 have terrible leak....case in point....girders which i a game with simple graphics leaves me with only 9 mb when i exit the app...while with skyforce 1.22 (wm5) the leak is hardly 100-200kb
you could try htcAddicts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487490
it seems to be more powerful than Oxios
hello every one...
is there any effective program that's free up RAM
thanks in advance......
azzambm said:
hello every one...
is there any effective program that's free up RAM
thanks in advance......
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QuickMenu 2.7 Its brilliant i have replaced oxios and just about any taskmanager you can think of
sktools is very good at it
SKTools FreeUP RAM
The FreeUP RAM function of SKTools. I use it daily. Eventually have to soft reset every couple of days to gain back all RAM, however.
Free memory with Oxios
I use Oxios Close Apps 1.4, very fast. The thing I don't like about SKtools is the big window it opens with SKtools logo... it's too ugly. Pocket Mechanic is very good too, but there is no single tap link to free memory, so I have to run the software, pick some options before start the free routine: boring. But is the most effective of all.
Oxios Close Apps/Hibernate - the best. Just assign them to your hard key using HButton whenever you want to release RAM.
thanks ericksonlk, EazyVG
Oxios is really good and has a tiny small size
thanks again
Memmaid is the best.
Are progs like this really usefull?
I mean is there any differnece in speed?
Can't really belive they make any differences!
about "Oxios Hibernate" after I run it.
If I toggle the screen OFF it won't turned ON again
why ????
JamesAllen said:
The FreeUP RAM function of SKTools. I use it daily. Eventually have to soft reset every couple of days to gain back all RAM, however.
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STools also have scheduler function to running FreeUP RAM.
ericksonlk said:
I use Oxios Close Apps 1.4, very fast. The thing I don't like about SKtools is the big window it opens with SKtools logo... it's too ugly. Pocket Mechanic is very good too, but there is no single tap link to free memory, so I have to run the software, pick some options before start the free routine: boring. But is the most effective of all.
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It seems, you not know all FreeUP RAM functions of SKTools. You can take a look in shortcut manager.
PaY87 said:
Are progs like this really usefull?
I mean is there any differnece in speed?
Can't really belive they make any differences!
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absolutely. I've been using Oxios for a while now, and the Hibernate function reallty makes a difference. I often free up 2-3Mb when I run it, and it often makes the difference between out of memory errors and programs running.
it's worth cooking into a ROM (hint-hint) and I should probably look at ways to have it auto-run at times, but Hibernate is in my Start Menu.
To the original question about speed: No freeing RAM has no impact on speed in and of itself, but since you are freeing up RAM for running apps you can run possibly more apps at once without an error or windows trying to manage the available memory, which could cause some response issues.
Hello,
I have a problem with my mobile, I mean I have Wi-Fi access and it works totally fine, the only problem I find is the RAM and the ROM memory.
ROM memory is 128 which is enough and It is free about 50 mb on my mobile, now comes RAM memory it is only 64mb and when I start device, it only shows me up as 20 MB free, and the only problem is with this RAM I can't use any good software, such as "Opera mobile" or other cool Navigators on the mobile,
When I launch them, it just says memory full........ (RAM MEMORY). Please cut a tab to get some memory and ask me frankly I have no tab open at that time
SO what I need is your help, as I am new to this all stuff, so I wan't to know is there is any way I can share my ROM memory with RAM memory? Or may be I can use my Memory card as RAM?? Or some thing like this? some other solution that my browser can be useable????
I run Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional on my device.
I am badly waiting for help and I really need help, thanks a lot. Badly waiting for help.
FAISAL!
Windows don't release correctly memory and/or apps when existing.
A daily soft reset (just a reboot without loosing anything) will do the trick, to keep the RAM free...
Hope this helps
YoLoLo said:
Windows don't release correctly memory and/or apps when existing.
A daily soft reset (just a reboot without loosing anything) will do the trick, to keep the RAM free...
Hope this helps
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So there is no other solution, because the problem is that when I install any good (advance) browser, it eats up all RAM on launching..
or may be you can tell me a good software (advanced browser) which doesn't eat a lot of resources
Thanks a lot...
FAISAL!
On my S200, i use PIE (default one), so i can't help you on this one...
Same problem at first
Hi!
I had the same problem before to use oxio closeapps and using a task manager soft to close all apps.
After that I'm using TomTom, MioMap 3 and iGo 8 !!!!!!!!!
Really no problem!
Prophet Devices came out really with a very low RAM memory... so to avoid having memory problems specially with RAM heres what i do...
download 3 or just one of this programs...
1. ClearTemp by Vicott Wong
2. Oxios Hibernate from www.oxios.com
3. CleanRAM
see attached files
heres another thing that i do...
download Advanced Config (attached file) then tap it and go to performance tab and change the file system filter cache to 2048 and the file system cache size to auto. then soft reset
for a good browser that i use and ate less RAM i use Skyfire (attached too)
marekPLPH said:
Prophet Devices came out really with a very low RAM memory... so to avoid having memory problems specially with RAM heres what i do...
download 3 or just one of this programs...
1. ClearTemp by Vicott Wong
2. Oxios Hibernate from www.oxios.com
3. CleanRAM
see attached files
heres another thing that i do...
download Advanced Config (attached file) then tap it and go to performance tab and change the file system filter cache to 2048 and the file system cache size to auto. then soft reset
for a good browser that i use and ate less RAM i use Skyfire (attached too)
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Thank you very much boss, I downloaded all you said, and installed them, and did that modifications you said..
I will give a try to skyfire ( I already installed) and will write more if have some problem.
Thanks a lot,
FAISAL!!!!!!
Faisal Tasleem said:
Thank you very much boss, I downloaded all you said, and installed them, and did that modifications you said..
I will give a try to skyfire ( I already installed) and will write more if have some problem.
Thanks a lot,
FAISAL!!!!!!
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good thing... i will be just around if you need help
enjoy!