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free up program memory

Hi, I really like using emulator on my wizard. But I need around 33MB Program memory free to use one of my favorites. Is there any way to get that kind of program memory free? After a soft reset I have around 27MB free , what can I do to free up about 5 to 6 MB more?
Please someone help me out on this one?
Thanks!

Buy a storage card, thats what they are for.

boboki said:
Buy a storage card, thats what they are for.
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Thnx for you reply, but I'm talking about Program memory, not Storage. I own a 1GB storage card, and I know what they are for

I'd like to know too, I only have 25mb free after soft reset. I'm guessing you don't have any Today screen plug-ins, which gives you 2mb more than I, as I have Pocket MSN, PHM Launch, SmartSKey, OmapClock, and vBar all running. btw, is the program you want to run PocketGBA, because that's the app. I want to free up my program memory for in order to play 32mb carts?

NorrinRadd said:
I'd like to know too, I only have 25mb free after soft reset. I'm guessing you don't have any Today screen plug-ins, which gives you 2mb more than I, as I have Pocket MSN, PHM Launch, SmartSKey, OmapClock, and vBar all running. btw, is the program you want to run PocketGBA, because that's the app. I want to free up my program memory for in order to play 32mb carts?
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Lol, yes, that is the app I want the free memory for, nice to see another emu fan.
And yeah, i have to no today-screen plugins loaded. I really hope someone has a solution to this.

I hope so too as well, but so far you have the most free memory of anyone i've seen on the forum. Too bad we can't apply storage extended rom memory to program memory like previous OS'...

yeah, I understand why it's usefull to have the program mem seperate from the storage, but it was pretty cool to be able to increase your program mem with the slider...

But back then all of the memory was the same RAM no matter if it were used for programs or storage, now with persistent storage it's seperate memory and the flash memory is much much slower you wouldn't want to reallocate it like that anyways.

so there isn't a solution for this?

Try running in safemode
Safe mode releases all the plugins and programs to run in memory.
SPPOCKETPLUS have this utility.

gwes.exe just keeps growing

hi
I use MemMaid and the running process that uses the most memory is "gwes.exe".
the problem is ,that the amount of memory it uses just keeps growing,rising on a daily basis .I've found that a soft reset brings it right down again :lol: ,but then it starts to rise once more .
Does anyone have a similar problem?
Is there any way of bringing down its memory use without soft reset?

markbrudney said:
hi
I use MemMaid and the running process that uses the most memory is "gwes.exe".
the problem is ,that the amount of memory it uses just keeps growing,rising on a daily basis .I've found that a soft reset brings it right down again :lol: ,but then it starts to rise once more .
Does anyone have a similar problem?
Is there any way of bringing down its memory use without soft reset?
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same to me. 10MB was the size of it. killing it makes the device freeze

don't kill gwes, it is a system process, stands for Graphics, Windowing and Events Subsystem.
i dunno why you get the memory leak, i don't. i always thought spb pocketplus is the culprit, but someone just claimed he had no leaks while using spb+. but give this a try if you happen to use it...

Same here and that is not just with gwes but with many other system files, but gwes is of course the biggest. Isn't this an issue with WM5?
I also use OxiosMemory and try to mitigate this by forcing the processes to release resources not in use, but that does not elimate this issue completely.

harryk1372 said:
Same here and that is not just with gwes but with many other system files, but gwes is of course the biggest. Isn't this an issue with WM5?
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no, the explanation is not this simple. i run the same wm5 as you and i dont have this problem.

cmonex,
Can I ask you what apps you run? It might be the apps I am running that you do not run is causing the memory leak.

harryk1372 said:
cmonex,
Can I ask you what apps you run? It might be the apps I am running that you do not run is causing the memory leak.
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i leave these constantly running all the time:
magicbuttons
taskmgr v1.6 (from buzzdev)
uptime
also usually leave these running:
totalcommander
opera
messages (sms)
occasionally using:
iGO 2006
Netfront 3.3
PQZII
vijay's full terminal screen hack
ftpsrv
phm regedit
tre regedit
adobe acrobat
mobipocket
wmirc
softmaker textmaker (wow sucks why no real vga)
tcpmp 0.71
hope this helped what apps are you running?

cmonex said:
hope this helped what apps are you running?
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Thanks for that. What I run is quite a few and some are same as yours. The biggest difference is that I run Wisbar Advance 2 and Wisbar Advance Desktop to skin the GUI.
The apps I am constantly running:
Wisbar Advance 2
Wisbar Advance Desktop
SEVEN (mobile push email)
ATOK (IME for Japanese language)
DefSIPChange (changes default SIP)
PQz
The apps I am running occasionally:
Backup and Restore
GSFinder
MemMaid
Oxios CloseApps
Oxios Hibernate
PHM RegEdit
JpegCapture
TCPMP
VeriChat
Warm Reboot
GB-SOFT Tweak
Pocket Tweak
I will have to check the ones I am constantly running to see if any of them is causing this problem but it could be the first two on the above list.

hi
I run:
contacts
calendar
comm manger
internet explorer
resco file explorer
MemMaid
games
These I run most of the time and I frequently have to switch them off in settings/system/memory in order to keep a reasonable amount of memory free
However gwes.exe never decreases
Can anyone see a link?

markbrudney said:
hi
I run:
contacts
calendar
comm manger
internet explorer
resco file explorer
MemMaid
games
These I run most of the time and I frequently have to switch them off in settings/system/memory in order to keep a reasonable amount of memory free
However gwes.exe never decreases
Can anyone see a link?
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hummm i didnt list the builtin apps but what i use from them is contacts, comm manager, PIE (very rarely), messages (only for sms), word... (sometimes the other office stuff too) would use calendar too but i always forget to note my todos in it
+ and i forgot to list nPOP (for emails) and a screenshot maker (magic something)..
anyway what you run doesn't sound too bad, if you really use no today plugins.. i got no idea.. what ROM version do you run?

The growth is because it caches icons (start menu - programs - settings) to speed up the display. At least that's my best guess!!!

hi
rom version:1.30.107 wwe
I did a soft reset today and gwes.exe went down to 4.22MB
I then ran only the wifi (comm manager) and gwes rose to 4.35MB
I ran it again after switching it off in settings/system/memory and it rose to 4.78MB
when I switched it off again in settings/system/memory it came down to 4.56MB but its obviously where the leak is.,because I didn't run anything else.
the problem is how do I stop it?

Hi all there,
same problem with my german VPA IV (Vodafone) even after several ROM upgrades (Jasjar, qtec, new vodafone ger) no changes of this strange behavior
I really hope, there's anybody out there, who can help us with this annoying thing.

This gwes.exe issue is experienced with WM2003SE as well. I found this in one of the threads in Windows Mobile Team Blog.
"With WM2003SE, I had issues like GWES.exe growing until I ran out of RAM. So, I purchased WM5, hoping the repurposed strata flash and new OS would resolve the issues."
You can also refer to below for gwes.exe in detail.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ui5/html/wce50conshellanduserinterface146.asp
Someone was saying earlier in this thread that gwes.exe caches icons. That might be true but may not be just icons and that explains why gwes.exe grows. Or, it might be that some apps you are running are causing memory leak but that is not easy to spot on.
A workaround to this I use and can recommend to anyone having this problem is Oxios Memory 1.40. It's free!
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
One of its apps is Oxios Hibernate. WM_HIBERNATE is a window message that is generated by the Windows operating system and sent to an application when system resources are running low. All applications should get the message and handle it by attempting to release as many resources as possible by unloading processes, destroying windows, or freeing up as much local storage as possible without damaging the internal state of the system.
I normally run this whenever the free memory space gets low like down to 15MB before my device gets unstable. I normally gain quite a bit by reducing the sizes of gwes.exe and all other processes running are occupying and that I don't have to reboot my device everyday. Check the size of gwes.exe with MemMaid before and after you run this and you will notice how effective it is. :roll:

thanks harryk1372,
Oxios Memory 1.40 is great and I managed to release 3MB of memory.
However none of it came off gwes.exe.
Just a matter of interest ,how many times should I use Oxios Hibernate?
Every time I press it,I get some memory back.

markbrudney said:
thanks harryk1372,
Oxios Memory 1.40 is great and I managed to release 3MB of memory.
However none of it came off gwes.exe.
Just a matter of interest ,how many times should I use Oxios Hibernate?
Every time I press it,I get some memory back.
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Maybe that gwes.exe did not have any resource to release at the point you ran Oxios Hibernate and it was already close to the bare bones. Try running Oxios CloseApps as well as Oxios Hibernate. CloseApps closes processes running in the background and that releases the memory used by those.
You do get some memory back by running Hibernate multiple times but the actual amount you get back is very small after the first run although the dialogue may say it is like 2 to 3MB released every time. I am not sure why this is but I think it is no use running it multiple times. Just run it once or twice a day when you find that the free memory is low.
As I wrote in the earlier post, Oxios Memory is just a workaround I found. It does not eliminate the problem completely and the memory resources used by the processes running will never go down to the level of right after the reboot of the device. I experienced that gwes.exe gradually grows in several days to the point when I need to reboot my device even with running Hibernate from time to time. It's just that I don't need to reboot it like everyday.

thanks harry

thank you very much

hey i had the same problem that is mentioned here....
i was running spb pocket plus when i noticed this....
now with ilauncher and spb diary i have around 25 mb at start up and hardly if any memory leak....
with ilauncher alone i have around 27.5 mb
also some software have been updated like pocket informant webis mail..my experience with them shows me that they have next to no memory leak...
what i have noticed is that applications which are not designed for wm5 have terrible leak....case in point....girders which i a game with simple graphics leaves me with only 9 mb when i exit the app...while with skyforce 1.22 (wm5) the leak is hardly 100-200kb

you could try htcAddicts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487490
it seems to be more powerful than Oxios

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I saw that the oxios hibernate was installed in the rom?! I have tried to install that to, but it not free up memory att all. Can someone explain that to me?
oxios hibernate installs OK

I found this description of Oxios :
Oxios Hibernate attempts to release as much memory as possible without damaging the internal state of the Windows Mobile device (Pocket PC or Smartphone).
Oxios CloseApps closes down other applications by sending "Close" messages.

I was interested in if the Oxios realy works right on Polaris, I now what the software does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368086
When a had the Trinity this software worked as it should

I'm trying in this moment and it seems to release a very little quantity of memory.

polaris has large amount of RAM , don't need stuff like oxios.

omaga said:
I was interested in if the Oxios realy works right on Polaris, I now what the software does.
When a had the Trinity this software worked as it should
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It is true that it does not work correctly with Polaris. I use the FreeUp RAM of SKTools. It works really great.

omaga said:
...free up memory
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This is not an easy one to get, because you have been educated for years of the exact opposite, but I hope I'm able to make all you guys understand:
it is NOT wise to free up RAM. This sounds illogical, but think about it: the purpose of RAM is to have a fast memory available which holds currently running and recently used programs. The probably easiest way to make you understand why its bull to clean up the RAM:
if you "empty" the RAM, 1st of all you do an almost complete write-cycle on the whole RAM which is bad for the hardware itself, it wears out over time
2ndly you wipe the applications you are about to use out of the RAM, so they have to be loaded again from slow memory (eg. ROM) so performance decreases, that what you don't want to happen you actually MAKE it happen...
3rdly RAM is so fast in handling the stuff loaded, you wouldn't notice any load/unload operations in the background
So summed up on the example of Windows Vista: You have learnt over the years, alot of free RAM is important. I agree, with "old" Operating Systems, especially Microsofts, it was. Mainly because they had a totally useless RAM management...
Now with Vista it's different and that Vista uses A LOT of RAM is actually a good thing, not a bad thing. It fills up the RAM with recently used applications, often used applications and applications you might use in the near future to be IMMEDIATELY ready. This actually IS THE PURPOSE OF RAM, "empty" RAM is a useless thing. And if your injection would be: but if the RAM is full, there's no space for an application I use the first time! Right, my answer: the application has to be loaded from HD and the RAM is freed up much more quicker than the EXE can be read from the HD.
The same concept applies to Windows Mobile. And to be honest, the Polaris has so much RAM, why even bother!

How increase 'Program Memory' for GPS use??

Every time when I start the GPS (Route 66) I got the mensage 'ERROR - Not enough memory to open this map'. The only way to use the GPS is to do a 'soft reset', then after start again the GPS general works. I use a 2Gb memory card which have more then 1Gb free.
How to improve the 'program memory' and avoid this problem??

There is a programm called "hibernate" which frees memory

Also there is Memmaker 2.2, a program that optimizes the RAM usage and the Memory Storage, eliminating unnecessary files and moving temp files to the storage card.
Very good program! If you use it once in a while, with batterystatus, you will have full knowlege of what is going on on your PPC all the time.

Icefeldt said:
There is a programm called "hibernate" which frees memory
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Thanks Icefeldt, the "Hibernate" really works and is very easy to use it! Many thanks!!!

Dear 'working man', where can I find the program "Memmaker 2.2"??

MiguelChina said:
Thanks Icefeldt, the "Hibernate" really works and is very easy to use it! Many thanks!!!
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no problem

Memaid 2.2 is from Dinarsoft. Try google

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del Program not use

Qtek S200 Navigator

Hello,
I have a problem with my mobile, I mean I have Wi-Fi access and it works totally fine, the only problem I find is the RAM and the ROM memory.
ROM memory is 128 which is enough and It is free about 50 mb on my mobile, now comes RAM memory it is only 64mb and when I start device, it only shows me up as 20 MB free, and the only problem is with this RAM I can't use any good software, such as "Opera mobile" or other cool Navigators on the mobile,
When I launch them, it just says memory full........ (RAM MEMORY). Please cut a tab to get some memory and ask me frankly I have no tab open at that time
SO what I need is your help, as I am new to this all stuff, so I wan't to know is there is any way I can share my ROM memory with RAM memory? Or may be I can use my Memory card as RAM?? Or some thing like this? some other solution that my browser can be useable????
I run Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional on my device.
I am badly waiting for help and I really need help, thanks a lot. Badly waiting for help.
FAISAL!

Windows don't release correctly memory and/or apps when existing.
A daily soft reset (just a reboot without loosing anything) will do the trick, to keep the RAM free...
Hope this helps

YoLoLo said:
Windows don't release correctly memory and/or apps when existing.
A daily soft reset (just a reboot without loosing anything) will do the trick, to keep the RAM free...
Hope this helps
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So there is no other solution, because the problem is that when I install any good (advance) browser, it eats up all RAM on launching..
or may be you can tell me a good software (advanced browser) which doesn't eat a lot of resources
Thanks a lot...
FAISAL!

On my S200, i use PIE (default one), so i can't help you on this one...

Same problem at first
Hi!
I had the same problem before to use oxio closeapps and using a task manager soft to close all apps.
After that I'm using TomTom, MioMap 3 and iGo 8 !!!!!!!!!
Really no problem!

Prophet Devices came out really with a very low RAM memory... so to avoid having memory problems specially with RAM heres what i do...
download 3 or just one of this programs...
1. ClearTemp by Vicott Wong
2. Oxios Hibernate from www.oxios.com
3. CleanRAM
see attached files
heres another thing that i do...
download Advanced Config (attached file) then tap it and go to performance tab and change the file system filter cache to 2048 and the file system cache size to auto. then soft reset
for a good browser that i use and ate less RAM i use Skyfire (attached too)

marekPLPH said:
Prophet Devices came out really with a very low RAM memory... so to avoid having memory problems specially with RAM heres what i do...
download 3 or just one of this programs...
1. ClearTemp by Vicott Wong
2. Oxios Hibernate from www.oxios.com
3. CleanRAM
see attached files
heres another thing that i do...
download Advanced Config (attached file) then tap it and go to performance tab and change the file system filter cache to 2048 and the file system cache size to auto. then soft reset
for a good browser that i use and ate less RAM i use Skyfire (attached too)
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Thank you very much boss, I downloaded all you said, and installed them, and did that modifications you said..
I will give a try to skyfire ( I already installed) and will write more if have some problem.
Thanks a lot,
FAISAL!!!!!!

Faisal Tasleem said:
Thank you very much boss, I downloaded all you said, and installed them, and did that modifications you said..
I will give a try to skyfire ( I already installed) and will write more if have some problem.
Thanks a lot,
FAISAL!!!!!!
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good thing... i will be just around if you need help
enjoy!