Hi, I really like using emulator on my wizard. But I need around 33MB Program memory free to use one of my favorites. Is there any way to get that kind of program memory free? After a soft reset I have around 27MB free , what can I do to free up about 5 to 6 MB more?
Please someone help me out on this one?
Thanks!
Buy a storage card, thats what they are for.
boboki said:
Buy a storage card, thats what they are for.
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Thnx for you reply, but I'm talking about Program memory, not Storage. I own a 1GB storage card, and I know what they are for
I'd like to know too, I only have 25mb free after soft reset. I'm guessing you don't have any Today screen plug-ins, which gives you 2mb more than I, as I have Pocket MSN, PHM Launch, SmartSKey, OmapClock, and vBar all running. btw, is the program you want to run PocketGBA, because that's the app. I want to free up my program memory for in order to play 32mb carts?
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I'd like to know too, I only have 25mb free after soft reset. I'm guessing you don't have any Today screen plug-ins, which gives you 2mb more than I, as I have Pocket MSN, PHM Launch, SmartSKey, OmapClock, and vBar all running. btw, is the program you want to run PocketGBA, because that's the app. I want to free up my program memory for in order to play 32mb carts?
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Lol, yes, that is the app I want the free memory for, nice to see another emu fan.
And yeah, i have to no today-screen plugins loaded. I really hope someone has a solution to this.
I hope so too as well, but so far you have the most free memory of anyone i've seen on the forum. Too bad we can't apply storage extended rom memory to program memory like previous OS'...
yeah, I understand why it's usefull to have the program mem seperate from the storage, but it was pretty cool to be able to increase your program mem with the slider...
But back then all of the memory was the same RAM no matter if it were used for programs or storage, now with persistent storage it's seperate memory and the flash memory is much much slower you wouldn't want to reallocate it like that anyways.
so there isn't a solution for this?
Try running in safemode
Safe mode releases all the plugins and programs to run in memory.
SPPOCKETPLUS have this utility.
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Does anyone experience the free program memory problems in XDA Mini? In my case, after a day of usage, the memory reduce to 14 mb, when doing a soft reset, the free program memory go up to 24 mb, means I need to soft reset every days?
Note: normally I use the phone, Pocket Informant (calendar, contacts) and sms only.
Instead of doing soft reset, just go into:
Settings - System - Memory - (Running Programs tab).
You'll probably find a lot of open programs there. Close them.
Seems to be a major design fault in the Windows Mobile OS. But then again this is product from Microsoft we are talking about - not exactly a shock that they would, without hesitation, release software with such a major failing.
I think what IvorNeo 2 means is that even without any active programs, the storage/program memory will become very low over time. This has happened to me as well. With only Activesync and Batmon 2 active, memory level fell to sub-500K level and phone needed a soft-reset to regain functionality. Phone was not in use at the time (charging).
There are some other threads discussing how to free up memory, but I haven't come across any fixes for this particular bug (yet).
i have the same problem
in my s100 , the memory reduce to 19 mb,after 2 or 3 days when doing a soft reset, the free program memory go up to 27 mb
mhtay
There are some other threads discussing how to free up memory, but I haven't come across any fixes for this particular bug (yet).
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Very nice , if someone can solve this bug
Regards
For me there are are 3 reasons why memory starts to decline:
Activesync eats up about 3MB each time you sync up and though it returns some when you kill the app it does not return the entire amount
html cache files when I surf with the device - gotta empty these along with the cookies...etc
duplicate processes and notification ques that pile up when you soft-reset the device. Over time these tiny bytes add up.
There's no fix for the main culprit of the memory loss - Activesync, maybe newer versions won't be so bad.
the same problem to me, I`m nor sure if it`s beacuse of aactive sync
This happens to my girlfriend's Mini and she does not browse nor does she use Activesync. Also I installed a program to get rid of the duplicate ques. In theory then she should not lose memory but she still does. It is just how Windows works....when you use programs you never get back 100% of the memory upon closing. Soft resets are just a necessary evil with Windows.
The latest version of SKTools has an additional neat feature to free-up RAM.
sk tools very useful program
but even this one works not so good as a soft reset.
Or with 64 mb RAM you can use oxios memory
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
be sure your programm memory less than 21mb while trying to free your memory up.
I have quite a lot of programs installed, most of them in Storage and TT5.x in SD card. Most DLL's also in Storage. I set my Prog Storage memory to 6.5-7 MB and I have over 30 MB for programs after applying SKTools FreeUp RAM utility.
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Or with 64 mb RAM you can use oxios memory
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
be sure your programm memory less than 21mb while trying to free your memory up.
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Isn't this a smartphone software? Will it work on wm5?
find out!
for magician good solution
@rustoss,
does this little applet close the running processes automatically once exitted?
thanx
hibernate.exe emulate filling memory till 90% & then system trying to clean possible RAM by itself i think so, i know exactly this action do the SKtools's freeupRAM, noone prog or process cannot be terminated by both.
closeapps.exe can!
a question about the topic: Rustoss do u have posted any prog here? because I'm not seeing it if it is
MocciJ
No, just put
I use the Storage to store some DLLs to save space. It works, not for all programs though.
Have tried installing programs to storage before (Journal Bar and Avantgo) but system seemed to be unstable afterwards.
Wonder if anyone has any good experience of storing and running other programs from Storage.
Also, has anyone tried installing the cab files from extended rom to Storage??? Is that possible at all???
RE
Yes, you can use Storage to store your cab files for the EXTROM.
BTW, program cab files for Storage and EXTROM are those that don't upgrade frequently otherwise you'll have to hard reset frequently too
Using Storage or Storage Cards should be avoided for anything on the today screen or anything which is bound to a hardware button. This is because the SD drivers take a little time to initialise when the device powers up and can result in files not being found - which can lead to small or big problems, depending on the nature of the 'missing' file.
This is why Pocket Plus cannot be installed in Storage any more and why Pocket Informant recommends installation into main memory. This is documented both by Spb Software House and WebIS.
I was beta testing SpbWeather and had some of the skins installed to Storage - whenever I used those skins, the plug-in was icon-less on power up, but main memory skins were fine.
As mentioned above, be careful selecting where to install Today Screen plug-ins.
As of the Storage, well I am not sure but I recommed you put in SMALL items in there since the storage becomes unstable at times because to OS may use a little of the Storage space to accomodate memory intensive applications like Adobe Acrobat. Correct me if I am wrong but this is what I understand about it.
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As mentioned above, be careful selecting where to install Today Screen plug-ins.
As of the Storage, well I am not sure but I recommed you put in SMALL items in there since the storage becomes unstable at times because to OS may use a little of the Storage space to accomodate memory intensive applications like Adobe Acrobat. Correct me if I am wrong but this is what I understand about it.
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Ther is so little storage there, why not just ignore it and use SD memory, or main memory where required?
I use storage to store my wma ringtones... haven't have the guts to move the DLLs yet. with regards to this... if i create a folder named Windows in Storage and move all my DLLs there would I need to hack into the apps individually ang make them look at this folder... or will the OS automatically look at both folders? Some people say to use systempath to do this.
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I use storage to store my wma ringtones... haven't have the guts to move the DLLs yet. with regards to this... if i create a folder named Windows in Storage and move all my DLLs there would I need to hack into the apps individually ang make them look at this folder... or will the OS automatically look at both folders? Some people say to use systempath to do this.
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As I know U have to hack the registry files of single appz to point in to storage folder instead in the main memory... :roll:
Regards,
Primoz
belfast-biker said:
Ther is so little storage there, why not just ignore it and use SD memory, or main memory where required?
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It's 10% of the device's memory, that's not insignificant and certainly not worth wasting. I store 13.2Mb of utilities and etc. in Storage so that it frees up the same amount of Main Memory but permits me to use them when swapping cards. I think it's a waste not to use it.
Into my Storage i have install :
Resco keyboard pro
Laplink controller
Handymenu
Hottbutton plus
Phone today
Today phone pro
VIto voice dialer
Used space for all this 3.21 mb
Free space 4.31 mb
I Don't have any problem at all, my JAM works smoothly & stable plus the today plugins run faster than ever...
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Been doing research on how memory works in WM5. Very interesting stuff. I have a 2GB Mini-SD which I put most of my apps on in hope of being able to maximize my program performance. Is there a way to increase the amount of Program RAM the device uses?
MemMaid looks like it supports re-allocating available Storage RAM to Program RAM, but the slider doesn't move. I guess it was only for WM2k3
Is there a way in WM5?
thanks,
casemon
casemon said:
Been doing research on how memory works in WM5. Very interesting stuff. I have a 2GB Mini-SD which I put most of my apps on in hope of being able to maximize my program performance. Is there a way to increase the amount of Program RAM the device uses?
MemMaid looks like it supports re-allocating available Storage RAM to Program RAM, but the slider doesn't move. I guess it was only for WM2k3
Is there a way in WM5?
thanks,
casemon
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You can't relocate anything from WM5 RAM because it's not used for storing files any more. Therefore, the 'traditional' ways of relocating stuff are simply not needed.
You can only play with what Today plug-ins you have, what apps you use (for example, Web browsers have very different memory consumption at rendering pages), what apps you auto-start. That's the only way to have some influence on the RAM usage of your WM5 device.
If you have a look around on yahoo there are some sites where u can have the RAM upgraded to 128mb instead of 64mb. Last time i checked though it cost around £140 and you also have to send ya phone off for 2 weeks for them to do it.
Hello All.
I installed on my Qtek 9090 a ROM WM6 in Spanish, everything works fine but when I see how little storage space is left and plenty of room for programs that I use, I wonder:
How can free up space or distribute the available space for storage and programs.
This is data:
Memory storage:
Total space 60.30MB, In Use 52.55MB, Free 7.5MB
Memory Program:
Total space 109.12MB, In Use 37.45MB, Free 71.67MB
What I want is to have more memory for storage, as I do this?
Or able to balance the memory as is done in WM2003.
Forgive but do not like taking a picture of the device.
Unistall programs that dont need speeds and install on Storage card, that way yu can save lots of memory space.
April 1 said:
Unistall programs that dont need speeds and install on Storage card, that way yu can save lots of memory space.
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It's not that easy. Every program I can install in the storage card, I try to do. I also changed my email and attachments to the storage card. Prior to syncing my email, I had 18MB and the PIM file was 11MB. 3/4 of the way through, I have 8MB left and the PIM file is 12MB.
After looking in every directory, I can't seem to find why 10MB of space was used. Further, you can't relocate the PIM file.
In WM2003, you can adjust the program and storage memory. You can't in WM6.
Try this...
Go see the second post here for what I do to keep the storage running with 12MB free and still install mad amounts of software!
Best advice is to read the bit about Pocket Mechanic - it'll help move most (not all) software to the card for you - changing all the reg entries and links for you!
And if it's speed you're after, try Pocket Hack Master from the same company!
But DO remember to backup with something like Spb Clone BEFORE you paly with these tools! Saves any embarrassment later
Bird
i think you may need ramdisk
look at the following thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382944
Hi,
Previously i had a HP 6365.
and one could very easily choose if we wanted to increase the storage or program memory but moving a simple bar.
this is not present in 8525.
although it has 64MB RAM and 128MB ROM.
total storage shown is 44.77MB
and total program memory shown is 48.77MB (where is the rest??)
is there a way to adjust this??
because i have only 3.2MB of storage available and 19.5MB or program memory available, although i always store programs on the microSD.
pls. shed some light,
Thanku for reading and answering.
Regards.
That program memory is your Ram... If you could cut that down your Hermes would run A LOT slower... Use total commander or, if you have it, resco explorer to see whats in your program directory on the phone itself... Backup 1st, then cut and paste to the sd card and remake the shortcuts in the windows directory.. Please remember though that some programs NEED to be on the Hermes.
Also check in the My Documents directory. You should store as much on the sd card as possible but the default storage location is on the Hermes...
Moving as much off the device memory will give you more storage space, but remember, it is limited...
Cheers...
wow..
thats an excellent suggestion.
iam working on that advice.
also wanted to ask u one more thing.
my 8525 has 64MB RAM
then why is it that it only shows 48MB total under programs??
what i mean is shouldnt it be showing 64MB total available???
thanku very much for answering
No, because the OS is using some. Also the extra programs that were installed with the os use Ram too.
Cheers...