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Help! Slow input type selection window!

When you need to input text, you can click on the icon at the bottom of the screen to bring up the text entry area. You can tap on the little triangle beside the icon to bring up a window to select between block recognizer, keyboard, letter recognizer, phone pad, and transcriber.
On my 8125, it is taking a long time for this window to pop up after tapping the triangle. It is taking a few seconds, when it used to take maybe 1/3 of a second. It is quite frustrating!
Why is is doing this? And what can I do to speed it up like it used to be?
This has happened before. It was when I first got the phone and was installing apps and games on it. One day I noticed this slow behavior, and I ended up doing a hard reset and slowly adding my apps and registry tweaks back on one at a time to see what would cause the problem. Well, nothing caused the problem and it stayed fast for a long time.
Then yesterday I updated to Summiter's latest ROM and started adding my apps back on. This text entry type window was working just fine through most of it, and suddenly as I'm finally finished putting everything back to where I want it, this problem is back!
Help! I don't want to do another hard reset already!

I have the same problem, I use transcriber as SIP but since it takes so long to show up when you click the triangle, I just put a shortcut to transcriber.exe in the start menu folder. So, I just use the Programs menu, it's much faster

I like to switch between letter recognizer, keyboard, and transcriber. I suppose I could put links to them in the start menu, but it would be so much nicer if I could just figure out why it's being so slow!
Any ideas?

I've read this is due to having MS Voice Command installed, although I haven't confirmed this myself.

I have the problem and never installed Voice Command, so there must be another explanation

anyone idea what the keyboard exe is called?
thanks

This is supposedly caused by a bug in the OS. I use an application called 'Smartskey'. There is a setting that talks about reboot notification for a Wizard. This affects the time it takes for the input method choice popup-. See the text about it from the manual:
REMOVEDUPSDDAEMON=0 (0 or 1)
Only for HTC Wizard. The function is originally not related to SmartSkey. The HTC Wizard contains a program called sddaemon that is the voice command program for wizard. It contains a bug that it will automatically create one more
notification for each reboot. It will make the program slower and slower after a number of reboot and overflow the notification system. To set this to 1 will automatically remove the duplicated notification event. If you are a user of Wizard, it is suggested to set it to 1. The flag is harmless for other machines.
I cannot remember where I downloaded the program, but if you search this forum, you should be able to find a copy.

i dont use smartskey, so is it something else causing my slowdown? i dont understand.
is that a reg key your talking about there?

funy said:
i dont use smartskey, so is it something else causing my slowdown? i dont understand.
is that a reg key your talking about there?
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Smartskey isn't the problem. It solves a problem with the OS. zIt appears that every time the device restarts, it makes a record in a log file somewhere. Eventually, the log is so full, it takes longer and longer to pull up the menu. I don't recall all of the details, but I found it here. You can probably search to find more information.
The setting I put in the post is a smartskey.ini setting to resolve the problem.

thanks, might give it a try then

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Smartskey isn't the problem. It solves a problem with the OS. zIt appears that every time the device restarts, it makes a record in a log file somewhere. Eventually, the log is so full, it takes longer and longer to pull up the menu. I don't recall all of the details, but I found it here. You can probably search to find more information.
The setting I put in the post is a smartskey.ini setting to resolve the problem.
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just put that ley in but stil doesnt seem to have done anything

SMS Scrolling

For some reason, when I open an SMS in my Text messages inbox, it starts at the bottom of the page, so i have to scroll up to the top to read it!
Im sure it didnt do this when I got the phone, but now it does.
Any ideas?

Try changing the way the message is sorted. Just tap a the small triangle below the close (X) button. Hopefully this solves your problem.

Sorry, I didnt make myself clear.
Its not the message list, its the message itself.
When I open an SMS, these can only be 160 chars remember, the screen is scrolled down a page showing blank nothing. I have to grab the scrollbar at the right and drag it to the top of the sms where the actual message and header are!
No sms would ever fill a single screen, let alone go into a second so I have no idea what is going on.

Pyrofer said:
Sorry, I didnt make myself clear.
Its not the message list, its the message itself.
When I open an SMS, these can only be 160 chars remember, the screen is scrolled down a page showing blank nothing. I have to grab the scrollbar at the right and drag it to the top of the sms where the actual message and header are!
No sms would ever fill a single screen, let alone go into a second so I have no idea what is going on.
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That happens with the keyboard attached or not?

This is happening to me as well - Anyone know what the fix is?
Thaks
Barney

I never found it!
Just upgraded to wm6 and it opens them scrolled down a little bit, just enough to hide the "received on blah"message, but not the caller name/number
Makes me think maybe its to do with message headers? Fiddle with the header display options. Good luck.

May i know what your wm6 build number?..
we had this before in out wizard when we are still using the older build number wm6 ones..

I had that prob in the shipped Tmob rom on Ameo, Its not happening on mew wm6
New os is 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3) though.
But as I say, it starts moved down a tiny bit only now, so i can see the message.
On TMob wm5 rom it started at the bottom of a long page, so EVERY time i opened a sms I had to scroll back up to read it, very annoying.

This bug occurs in wm6 build number 5.2.1238 downwards..
at 5.2.1413 the bug isnt exist anymore..

That happens when you set smooth scrolling/dpad scrolling via reg hack or change scrolling via htc tweaks, etc

Anyway to undo/fix it?

Pyrofer said:
Anyway to undo/fix it?
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Change the registry back or uncheck the smooth scrolling box in the tweak app you are using..
or
see reg setting below
0 = Smooth Scrolling with joystick (but sms msg's will start at the bottom)
1 = Default scrolling by link vs joystick
Navigate without stylus
The default behaviour for your device's four-way direction button in Pocket Internet Explorer (PIE) is to jump between hyperlinks/form fields on a web page. To change this behaviour so that the button scrolls the page left, right, up and down, use the following tweak:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav = 0 (DWORD decimal)And to re-enable hyperlink/form field navigation:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav = 1 (DWORD decimal)You may still jump between links using Tab and Shift-Tab using the built-in hardware keyboard.
See the Hermes and/or Universal wiki for many registry tweaks, etc

That worked for me
Thanks
Barney

"Notifications" blinking on and off

I have a small quirk on my HTC-PPC6800 running WM6.
I've had it for a month now, and I've pretty much got it configured how I want. I've got TCPMP (with some various files to help it along), QuickMenu, Clipboard Tool, and TotalCommander installed and running fine (and I believe that's the order I installed them). Then last night, I noticed that something changed if I received a text message or missed a phone call. Previously, the word "Calendar" changed to the word "Notifications", and I tapped on the word "Notifications" to see what call or text message I missed. Now, the word "Calendar" is still there, and the word "Notifications" blinks VERY quickly every second or so. It blinks too quickly to be able to tap and see the info behind it, so I have to actually open up the text messages or phone to see the missed text message or call. I've tried a couple of soft-resets, as well as turning the screen notifications off and then back on for text messages and the phone, but nothing changed.
Has anyone ever experienced anything like this? If so, were you able to remedy the blinking "Notifications," and have the word stay put as before? I know this is a relatively small issue, but I was so close to having the phone just perfectly set up and configured!!!
Many thanks in advance for your time!!!

i've been having that for a few days. the only thing i can say is i have installed quickmenu. i think it's the option that says "show on all titlebars" specifically. i did install cody's personalizer to rename sprint pcs to something else but i think it's quickmenu on my mogul causing the problem.

It almost sounds like the left softkey is messed up. I think Advanced Configuration Tool has the ablility to go in a configure the softkey. I would think you could install this and configure it back to default. You might also try disabling QuickMenu and see if it helps.

dalvarez7 said:
It almost sounds like the left softkey is messed up. I think Advanced Configuration Tool has the ablility to go in a configure the softkey. I would think you could install this and configure it back to default. You might also try disabling QuickMenu and see if it helps.
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Here is the CAB file for Advanced Configuration tool.

Thanks for the replies, jened and dalvarez7!
And jened - you were right on the mark! It had everything to do with the "show on all titlebars" QuickMenu option. I turned that off, and the problem went away.
dalvarez7 - if I have any more issues, I'll definitely make use of that CAB file you attached!
Thanks again to the BOTH of you!!!

Finally Fixed Notification Flashing
Thanks guys, this was a huge issue for me, but I couldn't ever find out what was causing it, so I did a hard reset last night and began reloading everything and found the QuickMenu was causing the problem. Before, all my searches on the forum for this problem had to do with "Notification Flashing" or "Reminder Flashing", but since I didn't use the word blinking or know it was QuickMenu causing the problem, I never found this thread. When I found it was QuickMenu causing the problem, I found this thread and now have QuickMenu back with proper notifications/reminders. Thanks guys!!!

Screen On when SMS recieved

On friday my trusty MPV M3100 decided to give up the ghost, so as I was in London I decided to look for a new phone and picked up an Touch Diamond 2.
And I have to say; I love it.
Best phone I've had and even the lack of a hardware keyboard hasn't bothered me.
There is only one thing which has caused me some bother; on all my previous phones when an sms/mms has been recieved the screen will turn on for a while to alert me of this, however I can't find a way to do the same thing with the TD2.
The reason I would like this is down to me mostly leaving my phone on silent but in line of sight. The silent factor is because I'm often doing things with headphones on (such as at work) and I'm not going to hear the tone anyways.
So, while the green light is nice and all being able to have the screen turn on as an option would be nice..
As a coder by trade I've been poking around to see what I could do to let me do this myself, however if someone has a better solution or knows of an app which can already do it then I'd appricate it if they could tell me

There is a setting in:
All Settings->Personal->Sounds & Notifications->Notifications
Then select Messaging: New Text Message from the drop down list, and there is an option there "Flash Light For: x Minutes"
This might be what you're looking for?

thanks for the reply, however I'd already found that option and it only effects the green light which flashes when you get a messag; nice and stuble in keeping with the device but not what I'm after

Look for this registry value
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\DisableSMSWakeUpEvent
It should be 1, set it to 0

ah, excellent, thanks

just curious what program you guys are using to edit registry values...
sorry if this is a stupid question, but i'm new to Windows Mobile.. up until the D2 i've always have symbian phones.

I just did a google for "win mobile reg editor" and installed PHM Regedit to do the job.
Although I'm going to write a quick app to let me toggle this particular setting I think (i'll probably post the resulting cab/exe here encased others want it)

I'm using Total Commander (I just started editing the registry). What do you guys use for making a CAB file?

oruam57 said:
Look for this registry value
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\DisableSMSWakeUpEvent
It should be 1, set it to 0
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Thank Oruam, great tweak.
I currently have the option selected to display a new sms message on screen as soon as it arrives, is it possible when i hit reply to get the device to go to the touch flow threaded messaging system rather than the WM6.1 default?

Thanks guys!
Is there any way to have it vibrate & play a sound, but not enable the touch screen? The reason I ask is that I dont want the screen to come on while it's in my pocket etc, and things start to get accidentally pressed!

Awesome! Thanks!

ormz said:
There is a setting in:
All Settings->Personal->Sounds & Notifications->Notifications
Then select Messaging: New Text Message from the drop down list, and there is an option there "Flash Light For: x Minutes"
This might be what you're looking for?
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I'm sorry ormz.
I'm interesting for that option to have flash light blinking when sms/mail arrives, unfortunately I haven't got the option you mentioned into my settings referred to "new SMS".
I've got the original rom installed (italian version).
May I arrange same setting/option into register also if I haven't it on display?
Could someone help me?

lock the device:
"real lock" - press the hang button (the one on the right) until it shows unlock at the bottom left side
stand-by - press the power button only for 1 second and the screen will go off. When receiving a message, the screen stays black. To see menu-s again, press again power button for 1 second

someone could tell me how to make it works with email event?

You guys might check S2U2 found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527523

ormz said:
There is a setting in:
All Settings->Personal->Sounds & Notifications->Notifications
Then select Messaging: New Text Message from the drop down list, and there is an option there "Flash Light For: x Minutes"
This might be what you're looking for?
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That option is grayed out. Anyone else?

Rarebreed said:
That option is grayed out. Anyone else?
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Same here...

i have total commander and i cant find that path... i get //plugins, application, data, connmgr, doc and sett, my doc, program files, temp, trusted, windows.. looked in all the folders and even typed that address.. nothing..

martyzidek said:
i have total commander and i cant find that path... i get //plugins, application, data, connmgr, doc and sett, my doc, program files, temp, trusted, windows.. looked in all the folders and even typed that address.. nothing..
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What are you looking for? Are you tryting to navigate to the registry through file explorer? If so, you need a reg editor to do that...
You know this is an old thread, right?

yeah i know its a old thread... i had a registor editor.. actually acouple. i found what i was looking for.. just didnt start with hkml.. thanks though for replying..

Viewing messages from Notifications bar...

On my old Touch Pro when you recieved a message whatever program you were using at the time if you clicked at the black bar at the top for notifications then on the view message icon it would display in a little bubble at the bottom of the screen overlayed ontop of the program you were using so you could quickly view the message and then minimize it an contiue what you were doing or click reply and it would enter you into text messaging. Is there anyway to enable this feature for HD2. Because I miss it!
Cheers

fillip said:
On my old Touch Pro when you recieved a message whatever program you were using at the time if you clicked at the black bar at the top for notifications then on the view message icon it would display in a little bubble at the bottom of the screen overlayed ontop of the program you were using so you could quickly view the message and then minimize it an contiue what you were doing or click reply and it would enter you into text messaging. Is there anyway to enable this feature for HD2. Because I miss it!
Cheers
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have you recently flashed a rom? if so what back up program did you use to backup/restore PIM data? When i flashed my first rom i was using SPB Backup and when restoring PIM data, it would loose the bubble you talk about, I have since used PIM Backup and not had an issue.

Its always been like it, with first ROM, i upgraded to 1.66 and now im on 1.72, by the way big mistake! My phone is now slow as hell and doesnt send texts or recieve whether updates!
I assumed that it was the new stly of notifications menu and hoped there was a way to enable the other style?

fillip said:
Its always been like it, with first ROM, i upgraded to 1.66 and now im on 1.72, by the way big mistake! My phone is now slow as hell and doesnt send texts or recieve whether updates!
I assumed that it was the new stly of notifications menu and hoped there was a way to enable the other style?
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Vodafone UK 1.72?

Also the delivery report always shows up in the bubble but messages it takes you bac to manila and then to the messages tab. Anybody else have messages opening in the bubble like djchubbs. And @ Popeyes_Rat yes Vodafone UK

fillip said:
Also the delivery report always shows up in the bubble but messages it takes you bac to manila and then to the messages tab. Anybody else have messages opening in the bubble like djchubbs. And @ Popeyes_Rat yes Vodafone UK
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About to flash myself. I'll come back here if I get any problems.

Ok let me know ive found its not so bad now 1.72 I am currently on a personal record(this is not a joke this is the longest ive ever been able to run the phone without reseting) of 17hours 23minutes without needing to soft reset however i have had to do funny things to make that possible see here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666458
Can anybody tell me if in any ROM version when u get a text in and click in the notifications menu it opens the message in a bubble at the bottom rather than taking u too messages tab??
Thanks

Anyone know how to display message in the pop up bubble from the notifications bar rather than sending you straight to the messages tab (useful for reading the message while in another program)???
Many thanks

Still after a way to get this working really want to be able to quickly read a message while in another prograam like i used to on my toch pro. Help would be appreciated thanks

fillip said:
Still after a way to get this working really want to be able to quickly read a message while in another prograam like i used to on my toch pro. Help would be appreciated thanks
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Very easy: Start, Settings, Menu, More, Sounds and Notifications, Choose New Message from DropdownMenu, Check "Show Message", Done
Greets

If i am in the right place it is greyed out and doesnt let me check the box although for me to get there it is:
start/settings/menu/all settings/sounds & notifications/ then click notifications tab then select New Message from DropdownMenu but the "Display message on screen" is greyed out?
Thanks for the reply

Hmm strange maybe it is ROM-dependant...? Or there are other settings need to be made in order to use this option...? Which ROM are u using? Have you got BSBTweaks installed?

No i dont have bsb tweaks installed i dont like the way you cant reset to defaults, i do have hd2 tweaks installed though.Will bsb tweaks make it work? im running latest voda Rom 1.72.

fillip said:
No i dont have bsb tweaks installed i dont like the way you cant reset to defaults, i do have hd2 tweaks installed though.Will bsb tweaks make it work? im running latest voda Rom 1.72.
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Actually i dont think that this has to do with BSB. I relly dont have an idea as the checkbox "Show Message" is a standard function of every windows mobile version Anybody else got an idea why the box is greyed out...?

I went searching through the registry and found keys which were in the NOTIFICATIONMGR bit which had a path linking to Messaging_Client which i guess is what directs it to the manilla messaging bit when you get a message. I tried deleting the path and deleting the values in the CMD bit but it still does the same. I restored the key after just incase it affected something else but presumably there is a key somewhere which controls whether or not you can click that check box but i have no idea where i would find it? Anyone know.