Help! Slow input type selection window! - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

When you need to input text, you can click on the icon at the bottom of the screen to bring up the text entry area. You can tap on the little triangle beside the icon to bring up a window to select between block recognizer, keyboard, letter recognizer, phone pad, and transcriber.
On my 8125, it is taking a long time for this window to pop up after tapping the triangle. It is taking a few seconds, when it used to take maybe 1/3 of a second. It is quite frustrating!
Why is is doing this? And what can I do to speed it up like it used to be?
This has happened before. It was when I first got the phone and was installing apps and games on it. One day I noticed this slow behavior, and I ended up doing a hard reset and slowly adding my apps and registry tweaks back on one at a time to see what would cause the problem. Well, nothing caused the problem and it stayed fast for a long time.
Then yesterday I updated to Summiter's latest ROM and started adding my apps back on. This text entry type window was working just fine through most of it, and suddenly as I'm finally finished putting everything back to where I want it, this problem is back!
Help! I don't want to do another hard reset already!

I have the same problem, I use transcriber as SIP but since it takes so long to show up when you click the triangle, I just put a shortcut to transcriber.exe in the start menu folder. So, I just use the Programs menu, it's much faster

I like to switch between letter recognizer, keyboard, and transcriber. I suppose I could put links to them in the start menu, but it would be so much nicer if I could just figure out why it's being so slow!
Any ideas?

I've read this is due to having MS Voice Command installed, although I haven't confirmed this myself.

I have the problem and never installed Voice Command, so there must be another explanation

anyone idea what the keyboard exe is called?
thanks

This is supposedly caused by a bug in the OS. I use an application called 'Smartskey'. There is a setting that talks about reboot notification for a Wizard. This affects the time it takes for the input method choice popup-. See the text about it from the manual:
REMOVEDUPSDDAEMON=0 (0 or 1)
Only for HTC Wizard. The function is originally not related to SmartSkey. The HTC Wizard contains a program called sddaemon that is the voice command program for wizard. It contains a bug that it will automatically create one more
notification for each reboot. It will make the program slower and slower after a number of reboot and overflow the notification system. To set this to 1 will automatically remove the duplicated notification event. If you are a user of Wizard, it is suggested to set it to 1. The flag is harmless for other machines.
I cannot remember where I downloaded the program, but if you search this forum, you should be able to find a copy.

i dont use smartskey, so is it something else causing my slowdown? i dont understand.
is that a reg key your talking about there?

funy said:
i dont use smartskey, so is it something else causing my slowdown? i dont understand.
is that a reg key your talking about there?
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Smartskey isn't the problem. It solves a problem with the OS. zIt appears that every time the device restarts, it makes a record in a log file somewhere. Eventually, the log is so full, it takes longer and longer to pull up the menu. I don't recall all of the details, but I found it here. You can probably search to find more information.
The setting I put in the post is a smartskey.ini setting to resolve the problem.

thanks, might give it a try then

mrschwarz said:
Smartskey isn't the problem. It solves a problem with the OS. zIt appears that every time the device restarts, it makes a record in a log file somewhere. Eventually, the log is so full, it takes longer and longer to pull up the menu. I don't recall all of the details, but I found it here. You can probably search to find more information.
The setting I put in the post is a smartskey.ini setting to resolve the problem.
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just put that ley in but stil doesnt seem to have done anything

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Wizard MSN Messenger - Soft Keyboard pops up all the time...

Hi All
I've got an O2 XDA Mini S which I've set up using the corporate option, so I no longer have the O2 Software running.
Whenever I start a new conversation in MSN messenger, the soft keyboard pops up, even if the real keyboard is exposed.
This is really annoying as I have to minimise the soft keyboard on every new conversation.
Can anyone help?
Driving me mad! :roll: LOL
D'Oh!
Just tried to make a word document and it's doing the same thing!!!
GRRRRR!
I have tried setting the input options from keyboard to phonepad and it's still doing it.
just start typing (DON'T click it away!). for me after that it remembers that i don't want to use the onscreen keyboard.
OK, so I just rebooted the machine and it's not popping up now.
However, the MSN chat window is all squashed up at the top of the screen... As if there was a softkeyboard there.
I think I'm going to have to get used to the occasional reboot on this!
Thanks for your quick response!
Clicking on the SIP button in the bottom right should disable the soft keyboard, and according to some, it should retain that setting. I don't have a Wiz so I can't confirm, but one way or the other, it might help you to install a dummy SIP. PHM Tools installs one.
PHM Ext. Keyboard SIP PowerToy
The PHM Ext. Keyboard is an empty input panel you can use when you have an external keyboard connected (such as thumb, collapsible, foldable, wireless, ... keyboard) and do not want an input panel to take valuable screen estate.
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here
V
yah this annoys me as well, when browsing in landscape and BOOM this keyboard that covers have the screen pops up! you can't even see what yoru typing...
anyway i remember reading a fix for this somewher, but it was before i got the device. anyone know where its at?
Hey, I changed mine from keyboard to the transcriber, it doesn't seem to popup now and it also give a full screen while on msn rather than only half screen where the keyboard should be.
Just tried this... Thanks!
It gives more of the screen available to MSN, but still not full screen for me.
If I click on the transcriber icon at the bottom of the screen, then click on it again to minimise it, I then get full screen.
Weird problems!
want to try the PHM Ext. Keyboard SIP PowerToy but theire website is down since some time. Could anybody please upload the files in this forum or somewhere else? (eg RapidShare.com,...)
THX!!!
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
PHM tools
I think they're all down for updates.
Here's a zip of all of them.
V
so what exactly does that do? i don't want to install anything that can be solved by a reg edit. (dont have a mem card yet)
Fone - one of the cabs installs a dummy SIP called external keyboard or something. It's for people that use external keyboards, basically don't one the built in ones popping up all the time.
It's small, I'd install it if you have a need. If you really don't need the built in keyboards and want a registry only solution, you can disable the SIPs through the registry. Not recommended though.
V
Alternatively, as it's just 1 install:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/nullkeyboard.shtml
( could probably hack apart the PHM tools CAB just as well )
thanks a lot, just what i needed!!
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
Excellent! Works a treat!! Thank You.
Ahh, null keyboard is by beemer. He's a great coder, check out his today plugins for wondrous pleasures.
These null keyboard type things do pretty much the same thing, ie nothing. However, if you're really geeky, Brighthand forums has a large review of a number of them. Use whatever works though.
V
its ok, i'll go ahean and install it. i just thought somehow someone could make a couple regedits that would tell the device if in landscape dont show onscreen keyboard. but i guess its more complex than i thought.
short of intercepting it, I don't think so
Technically, software needs to check they keyboard status, and then suppress the SIP from popping up when activating text entry elements (stuff's in MSDN somewhere). Thing is - most people are either too lazy to do so, or aren't aware of any need to do so, or just don't know they -can- do so
There is a registry entry (at least in mine) HasExtKeyboard or something to that effect. I set it from 0 to 1, but it does nothing. Do a registry search for it. Perhaps someone can make a SIP that will normally not pop up anything, but with a keystroke or a tap on the icon will pop it up when you need it.
I'd just like a slim SIP that would have keys like Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo, etc.
There is a registry entry (at least in mine) HasExtKeyboard or something to that effect. I set it from 0 to 1, but it does nothing. Do a registry search for it. Perhaps someone can make a SIP that will normally not pop up anything, but with a keystroke or a tap on the icon will pop it up when you need it.
I'd just like a slim SIP that would have keys like Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo, etc.

keyboard menu pullup takes 7 seconds!

I am not sure if it's the dialpad skin or CE Star that I've installed, but I've noticed that:
1. The keyboard input method selection pullup takes 7 seconds to appear.
2. Phonepad input method can not be selected. It goes back to straight keyboard.
I did try to uninstall the above two mentioned software, but problem remains.
Can somebody descrive what windows is doing when this menu is pulled up? Is it reading from some directory or registry? I am thinking something is missing thus causing the long lag.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
dunno but mine took ages as well.
i bought something called SKTools which cost five pounds or something, and allowed me to disable the ones i don't use... like block transcriber or whatever the hell that was.
edit: oh yeah, and that made the pop-up quicker. I assume you can do this in the registry itself but i dont like digging around in my registry without some kind of app to do it for me..
Nobody else have this problem?
Where in registry is this menu list stored?
Thanks.
Known issue, which is getting a "bit" fixed in newer versions, mine take 2-3 seconds to pull up with the latest version
It's better but still unacceptable :?

Fixing all the little annoyances of the Wizard

There are several little annoying things that prevent the Wizard from being a perfect phone for me. Here is a list of all the annoying things I don't like the solution to them, if I have found one. If people post more solutions that work I will update this list.
1. The unit is way too slow.
Solution:
Install Omapclock and omapclockplus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271012
Download that speedup.cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261638
2. Insert Pauses in Dialing
Solution:
You can, in your contacts insert pauses in the number using a comma:
i.e. 123-4567 , 123
Does anyone know how to insert commas while dialing normally?
3. Lock the phone (to password screen) with a button combination (unsolved)
I mean lock as in the sense where you are at the enter code screen to unlock the phone to be able to use it. Normally I set mine to auto-lock after 15 mins, but what if I want to lock it right away?
I think I have done this by accident, as I pushed some buttons accidentally, and come back a few minutes later to find the device locked at the password screen.
4. Answering Machine (unsolved)
Some software to answer incoming calls and record a voice message. Though, this seems impossible due to what I read in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277314
"Due to a hardware limitation of the Wizard, WM5 does not have access to the incoming GSM Voicestream. WHat this means is that you cannot use a software answering machine on the HTC Wizard."
5. Windows Media player key mapping
Windows Media player works fine for me, as I use Windows Media player 11 on the desktop to create perfect playlists that are all converted and copied automagically on the device, Ipod style. I just select my playlist and go. The only problem, as most of you are aware it the inability to retain button mappings when the player is not on screen, and also the ability to only map the directional keypad.
Solution:
Use Pocket Player. It can successfully emulate the look, feel and functionality of Windows Media player, while adding all the missing features like the button mappings, crossfading, visualizations, equalizer. It even prevents the device from locking (to password screen) when you are playing a song.
5a. Windows Media player key mapping Headset button (unsolved)
Use the headset button to skip to next song and perhaps turn off the screen too.
6. Wifi while connected to USB
I want to have Skype logged in and running on my Wizard but still have it plugged in charging from my computer, as the wifi + skype drains battery like mad. The problem is that when I connect via USB, the wifi disconnects and reroutes from the computer. Skype, for some reason, cannot connect this way.
Solution:
In Activesync 4.5 go to File>Connection Settings>Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop.
A Workaround: Install a USB mass storage driver such as Softick Cardexport
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
or wm5torage
http://www.modaco.com/WM5torage-t238545.html
and set it to USB drive mode when you connect
7. Repeating Notification upon missed call or SMS
I currently use PhoneAlarm and it does the job.
8. Assign SMS tones to different people (unsolved)
How is this possible?
9. Simple Task Management (worked around)
I want to be able to access the control panels running programs list. Also, I want to kill all programs but WITH an exception list. I also don't want to have to install a whole other task manager with any more features than that.
Current workaround: Pin a shortcut in your start menu to the task manager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276385
10. SMS chat
The Treo has a great feature in while all chats to and from one person are organized into a sort of "chat box" in a style like MSN messenger.
Solution:
http://www.trianglepowers.com/ppc6700/ViewApp.aspx?ID=37
While the program does it's job OK, it often crashes and you need the bloated .Net Mobile Framework installed as well. It also does not have the smart lookup function of the regular messaging program.
11. Use the unit as a USB drive
Solution:
Like mentioned above use
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
or wm5torage
http://www.modaco.com/WM5torage-t238545.html
12. Start a new calendar item and it changes focus after one letter typed. (unsolved)
When you try to type a calendar item, you type one letter then you lose the focus. You then have to click on the blank again.
13. SMS notification on top of any application (Unsolved)
I want, when I recieve an sms, for it to display a notification on top of whatever application I am using without clicking the mail icon.
Windows mobile 2003 had a cool bubble that popped up on top of whatever app you had. I think I had something like this working before, how can we do it again?
14. Loose stylus
After a while the stylus silo becomes loose and starts losing styli like they are going out of fashion.
Solution:
1 square inch of shopping bag plastic shoved in the hole or see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247497&highlight=stylus+loose+wizard
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Here I will add other people's annoyances and fixes:
1. Store Email on the Storage Card
Qmail will run on the card and store all your emails there, as will npop. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...highlight=npop and other threads.
2.Prevent T-Mobile customization
You can prevent the installation of t-mobile customization after a hard reset. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=272613
4.Purge Deleted items easily (unsolved)
In Messaging, it takes EIGHT key presses to empty the deleted items folder. This is my second most frequent item pressed (to delete mail from the server) after send/receive.
5.The software keyboard pops up even when the regular keyboard is open, at least until a key is pressed.
Stop the software keyboard from popping up in Landscape mode:
Download this cab file and install it from the wiki.
6.The symbol X doesn't mean close
Fixed by smartskey
SMS chat (solved)
phony said:
10. SMS chat (unsolved)
The Treo has a great feature in while all chats to and from one person are organized into a sort of "chat box" in a style like MSN messenger. Is there an actual good program that will do this?
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This one is solved. See SMS Threader at http://www.trianglepowers.com/ppc6700/Default.aspx
He's got some other interesting apps too.
-Jeff
Here is my listed that I posted a few days ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1022197#post1022197
Here is my listed that I posted a few days ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...97#post1022197
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Interesting list, it seems mostly to do with hardware issues there. The email notification sound with outlook in the foreground might be able to be fixed by PhoneAlarm.
or how about this
phony said:
2. Insert Pauses in Dialing
You can, in your contacts insert pauses in the number using a comma:
i.e. 123-4567 , 123
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If adding commas acts as a pause how long is the actual pause? Is there anyone to use diferent pauses. The only reason I ask is I work with automated voice systems for work, and in order to "test" accounts I have to go through like 3 minutes of waiting.
I could really save time if there was a way to dial, pause, dial, pause, and so on.
3. Lock the phone with a button combination (unsolved)
Hi Phony,
3. Lock the phone with a button combination (unsolved)
is solved if you care to look at Molski`s website under:
http://www.molski.biz/mycabs.html
and there check the cab file for:
Molski.Biz VoiceDial Button Customizer stating:
This program installs the full versions of WM5torage 1.60 and DeviceLock,
including shortcuts for both programs and the DeviceLock Control Panel.
It remaps DeviceLock to hardware button 4, the VoiceDial button (single press).
It remaps WM5torage to hardware button 4, the VoiceDial button (long press/hold).
I made this program because I never use the VoiceDial or Record functions of the button, but I often use DeviceLock (and hate it to have it as an item on the Today Screen) and WM5torage and wanted some quick shortcuts to it (but not on the Today Screen...).
Hope this helps cause it works like a charm for me ;-)
Thanks to Molski !!!
CU
FREIMAURER
I bought a 2gig memory card for my phone.. but I can't see anyway to make it store email on the memory card.
There is an option to store attachments on the memory card but not the emails themselves.
The phone has such a poxy in built memory that after installing programs and contacts etc. there is only 5-6mb left... this quickly gets clogged up to the point where in coming SMS, emails and new contacts can't be stored.
So I have a great situation of 2gig of memory, that is semi useless and an OS that doesn't seem to have been designed to integrate extra memory properly into the daily functions of the phone...
Anyone got any clues or addon softwares that might help ?
ALSO... was wondering if anyone knows a way to wipe the tmobile rom off the VARIO and install a plain one or K-Jam rom.... ?
ALSO .. never got that overclocking to stay.. as soon as the phone goes to sleep, it reclocks back to 180 again.....
one comma = 2 secs pause as far as I know
@freimaurer
What is the devicelock program? What does it do?
alternative?
@richardq
have you tried installing the programs onto the storage card instead? There are relatively very few programs that really need to be installed on the internal storage.
Also, remember to store as much data (documents. media, etc) as possible on your card.
Btw according to some previous threads funky things can happen if you force messages to be store on the card.
Use a different program for mail
richardq said:
I bought a 2gig memory card for my phone.. but I can't see anyway to make it store email on the memory card.
There is an option to store attachments on the memory card but not the emails themselves.
The phone has such a poxy in built memory that after installing programs and contacts etc. there is only 5-6mb left... this quickly gets clogged up to the point where in coming SMS, emails and new contacts can't be stored.
Anyone got any clues or addon softwares that might help ?
ALSO... was wondering if anyone knows a way to wipe the tmobile rom off the VARIO and install a plain one or K-Jam rom.... ?
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Qmail will run on the card and store all your emails there, as will npop. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=257629&highlight=npop and other threads.
You can prevent the installation of t-mobile customization after a hard reset. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=272613
I have begun to add other peoples annoyances... hopefully we can have a huge fix list
On the issue of turning the phone into a storage device, some questions:
1. Does the Softick solution (Card Export), utilize USB 2.0, or just 1.1?
2. The chart on Softick's site say that it "works" for the HTC, while others are described as "works fine". There appears to be a difference. Anyone know what that difference is?
3. For either solution, does the software need to be installed on the PC? Or on the phone? I would see much less use for this if it has to be installed on the PC, as Activesync is proficient enough. The value to me would come from being able to access the storage while away from my own computers, and without having to set up a partnership.
edit: I see now that Card Export II needs only be installed on the phone.
Thanks!
Big annoyances
My pet peeves are:
Start a new calendar item and it changes focus after one letter typed. I can't believe this persists through updates to windows mobile.
In Messaging, it takes EIGHT key presses to empty the deleted items folder. This is my second most frequent item pressed (to delete mail from the server) after send/receive.
Occasionally, there is a ten second delay for the machine to respond to a start menu press, usually while something with wireless is going on. Why do I have lower status than wireless?
The software keyboard pops up even when the regular keyboard is open, at least until a key is pressed. I would like a setting that says "never pop up the soft keyboard, but leave it available if I press on it"
The symbol X doesn't mean close (fixed by smartskey)
prestonmcafee said:
My pet peeves are:
The software keyboard pops up even when the regular keyboard is open, at least until a key is pressed. I would like a setting that says "never pop up the soft keyboard, but leave it available if I press on it"
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This really gets on my tits also.
prestonmcafee said:
The symbol X doesn't mean close (fixed by smartskey)
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Funny you mention this - there was a WM developer blog post about this just last week. It at least explains the rationale behind the X itself and the way WM5 tries to manage memory for the user.
Link to post
One of my biggest annoyances:
WM5 is not smart enough to go into "dot mode" on number fields. For instance when choosing a time for an appointment, I cannot possibly want to enter text. When putting in a phone number, I probably do not want to enter text. It would be nice if you didn't have to hit the dot button to enter numbers in such fields.
jzerocsk said:
Funny you mention this - there was a WM developer blog post about this just last week. It at least explains the rationale behind the X itself and the way WM5 tries to manage memory for the user.
Link to post
One of my biggest annoyances:
WM5 is not smart enough to go into "dot mode" on number fields. For instance when choosing a time for an appointment, I cannot possibly want to enter text. When putting in a phone number, I probably do not want to enter text. It would be nice if you didn't have to hit the dot button to enter numbers in such fields.
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I agree about the dot mode, especially because the Treo nailed this -- it was almost always in the right form, to the point where entering text in a new contact, it figured out that phone number fields should be numbers, names should be letters.
As to the close button explanation, it strikes me as hogwash. First, WM5 does NOT manage memory. One opens programs, eventually using up all the memory, at which point one gets an inadequate memory message, suggesting we close some programs. That is managing memory? But even if it did manage memory, how is it that WM5 uses the same symbol for a different action than Windows XP? The X in WM5 minimizes, an action symbolized by _ iin XP. It is as if they are trying to fool the user and make the device not work as expected.
(Preliminary reports suggest that Vista is going to do this same behavior -- confusing by using different symbols for the same action, and the same symbol for different actions, in distinct settings -- in a really effective manner.)
phony said:
@freimaurer
What is the devicelock program? What does it do?
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Hi phony,
sorry for the long delay. The device lock program is from Molski and it does exactly
what you were complaining in point 3 on your agenda
--snip--
3. Lock the phone with a button combination (unsolved)
--snip--
It locks the wizard when you press the VoiceDial button does not matter in which program you are at the moment.
I often use when I am using my bluetooth headset...dial a number lock the phone and put the phone away and
concentrate on my phonecall.
Hope I could help!
CU
Freimaurer
I have updated the list.
There is another annoyance I almost forgot about.
I want, when I recieve an sms, for it to display a notification on top of whatever application I am using.
Right now I have to switch to the messanging program, or view the notification from the today screen.
Windows mobile 2003 had a cool bubble that popped up on top of whatever app you had. I think I had something like this working before, how can we do it again?

"Notifications" blinking on and off

I have a small quirk on my HTC-PPC6800 running WM6.
I've had it for a month now, and I've pretty much got it configured how I want. I've got TCPMP (with some various files to help it along), QuickMenu, Clipboard Tool, and TotalCommander installed and running fine (and I believe that's the order I installed them). Then last night, I noticed that something changed if I received a text message or missed a phone call. Previously, the word "Calendar" changed to the word "Notifications", and I tapped on the word "Notifications" to see what call or text message I missed. Now, the word "Calendar" is still there, and the word "Notifications" blinks VERY quickly every second or so. It blinks too quickly to be able to tap and see the info behind it, so I have to actually open up the text messages or phone to see the missed text message or call. I've tried a couple of soft-resets, as well as turning the screen notifications off and then back on for text messages and the phone, but nothing changed.
Has anyone ever experienced anything like this? If so, were you able to remedy the blinking "Notifications," and have the word stay put as before? I know this is a relatively small issue, but I was so close to having the phone just perfectly set up and configured!!!
Many thanks in advance for your time!!!
i've been having that for a few days. the only thing i can say is i have installed quickmenu. i think it's the option that says "show on all titlebars" specifically. i did install cody's personalizer to rename sprint pcs to something else but i think it's quickmenu on my mogul causing the problem.
It almost sounds like the left softkey is messed up. I think Advanced Configuration Tool has the ablility to go in a configure the softkey. I would think you could install this and configure it back to default. You might also try disabling QuickMenu and see if it helps.
dalvarez7 said:
It almost sounds like the left softkey is messed up. I think Advanced Configuration Tool has the ablility to go in a configure the softkey. I would think you could install this and configure it back to default. You might also try disabling QuickMenu and see if it helps.
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Here is the CAB file for Advanced Configuration tool.
Thanks for the replies, jened and dalvarez7!
And jened - you were right on the mark! It had everything to do with the "show on all titlebars" QuickMenu option. I turned that off, and the problem went away.
dalvarez7 - if I have any more issues, I'll definitely make use of that CAB file you attached!
Thanks again to the BOTH of you!!!
Finally Fixed Notification Flashing
Thanks guys, this was a huge issue for me, but I couldn't ever find out what was causing it, so I did a hard reset last night and began reloading everything and found the QuickMenu was causing the problem. Before, all my searches on the forum for this problem had to do with "Notification Flashing" or "Reminder Flashing", but since I didn't use the word blinking or know it was QuickMenu causing the problem, I never found this thread. When I found it was QuickMenu causing the problem, I found this thread and now have QuickMenu back with proper notifications/reminders. Thanks guys!!!

Text messages always show bottom of screen first?

I am having a little problem with my text messages. Whenever I get a new message or try to compose one; the screen goes to the bottom and doesn't show the message. I have to slide or scroll up everything when I try to send or read a new message. I am on VP3G's latest rom(check sig for more details), and I don't think this happened before, but I cannot fully remember when it started to happen. Is this a known problem, or better yet, is there something I can do to fix it? Its not that big of a deal, just more of an annoying bug...Are there any registry settings I can do or try another program to fix it?
Since no ones seems to have any answers, what about a Registry tweak? Does anyone know of a setting I could edit or add to make it open messages from the top?
Unsure about the registry tweak, but for a temporary solution, you could just keep your SMS inbox clean so that all messages display on one page, allowing you to see the new one at the top, even though you're at the bottom.
Have you tried staying at the top, then resetting your phone at that moment? Does this happen in Outlook?
Try This
Q: Every time I open a message it goes to the middle/bottom of the message.
A: Install KaiserTweak, and disable D-Pad Scroll Navigation or use Schap's Advanced Configuration Tools and disable 4-way navigation.
vetius said:
Unsure about the registry tweak, but for a temporary solution, you could just keep your SMS inbox clean so that all messages display on one page, allowing you to see the new one at the top, even though you're at the bottom.
Have you tried staying at the top, then resetting your phone at that moment? Does this happen in Outlook?
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The problem isn't the messages in the inbox, its that when I open the message, it goes to the bottom of the message right away, so I can see the actual message, or maybe just the very last line. The same goes for when I try and create a new text message, It goes right to the bottom, and I have to scroll up to see what I am typing.
PsyOpWarlord said:
Q: Every time I open a message it goes to the middle/bottom of the message.
A: Install KaiserTweak, and disable D-Pad Scroll Navigation or use Schap's Advanced Configuration Tools and disable 4-way navigation.
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I have advanced Config from Schaps installed, but 4-way navigation was already disabled...I haven't tried KaiserTweak, will that work for my Hermes, or should I say will it work correctly? If so, then I will try that next...
Thanks for the replies...
You guys are so locked on
I had the problem with the messages going to the bottom. I did the Kaiser Tweak and there are no more problems.
This message board is so locked on to solving issues.
Thanks for all your help.
Hey guys, is there ever any other reason for this to happen? I've tried disabling it in the advanced config and kaisertweak but neither help :/
The only fix I have ever known for that problem, was to disable
the stylus 4 way navigation.
Chris Jernigan
Open to the Bottom of Messages - Fix Needed
benj0145 said:
Hey guys, is there ever any other reason for this to happen? I've tried disabling it in the advanced config and kaisertweak but neither help :/
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I have tried the same with no success... any other solutions?
PsyOpWarlord said:
Q: Every time I open a message it goes to the middle/bottom of the message.
A: Install KaiserTweak, and disable D-Pad Scroll Navigation or use Schap's Advanced Configuration Tools and disable 4-way navigation.
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To be clear - you are saying that a fix for this issue (that I have and it's annoying as hell) is to COMPLETELY disable the ability to use the D-pad for navigation???
I'm not bagging on you, but that is completely and totally unacceptable.
Shall we just disable the touch screen to solve some similarly mundane issue??
It shouldn't have to be like that. And we shouldn't have to live with it either.
But that's life I guess.
Other solutions for getting messages to open at the top?
darknyt said:
To be clear - you are saying that a fix for this issue (that I have and it's annoying as hell) is to COMPLETELY disable the ability to use the D-pad for navigation???
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May in fact be a mute point as I changed this feature using both KaiserTweak and the Advance Config and it did not remedy the problem.
I also have the same problem. D-PAD is already disabled. I also don't know when this problem started.
This registry tweak (basically, that's what the aforementioned tweaking tools do) solves the problem for me:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav = 1 (DWORD decimal)
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Have you guys tried taping the "Arrange By" option on the upper right of the Message window. Choose the "Recieved" option. If you noticed, if you tap it one or more times it will arrange the messages from newest to oldest..

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