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Scrolling in contacts, web pages, emails etc.

Hi all,
Getting quite used to my TyTN now and it's a superb tool.
My question is difficult to explain but here goes:
When I am reading emails, looking through contacts etc. and I'm using the thumbwheel, it goes to the end then basically does a page down. it won't scroll around the centre once it gets there....
My point is that when reading en email quickly, for example, I like to scroll down before I finish the page... If I do this with the thumbwheel it swaps the current page for the next one that fits on the screen - or to the next link...
Is there anyway to get it to cycle smoothly? maybe a bit like scroll lock or something?
Sorry for the dodgy explanation...
Regards

You want it to be able to scroll one or a few lines at a time right?
Me too.
There was a thread somewhere around here a while back asking the same thing...never did get a solution.

Yep that's exactly what I mean. I'll keep hunting. Maybe there's a way of hooking the scroll lock for this sort of thing...
i'll keep a-hunting

let's see if this is what your looking for:
C/P from the wiki....
Navigate without stylus
The default behaviour for your device's four-way direction button in Pocket Internet Explorer (PIE) is to jump between hyperlinks/form fields on a web page. To change this behaviour so that the button scrolls the page left, right, up and down, use the following tweak:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav = 0 (DWORD decimal)And to re-enable hyperlink/form field navigation:
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav = 1 (DWORD decimal)You may still jump between links using Tab and Shift-Tab using the built-in hardware keyboard

But that doesn't work with email or opera...

To get smooth scrolling in Opera you have to edit the .ini file. Menneisys has instrustions and edited files on his blog. You can also find instructions on the Opera forums.
Ninja1

athiqueahmed said:
You want it to be able to scroll one or a few lines at a time right?
Me too.
There was a thread somewhere around here a while back asking the same thing...never did get a solution.
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You CAN scroll one line at a time in PIE.
Problem is it's not the easiest thing to do physically but it is possible.
Tap and hold the little scroll block on the right and now when you use the scroll wheel it wil move up or down one line at a time.
Mike

smart touch key repeat rate

Hey
I'm trying to get the HP iPaq 614c in a usable state....what I'm finding is that the Smart-Touch scroll wheel is great, nice and quick and you can be productive.
But, because it is only one way (up <-> down), and because it usually functions as the equivalent of a "tab" key press (if on a PC) you can't use it for moving around in a text block.
You have to use the up down left right method by hovering over 5, then moving your thumb in the appropriate direction...however, the repeat rate on this is slow slow slow......
Its enough to not make me keep the 614c because it means editing SMSs or emails or even just random text fields like URLs is painful, particularly when you make a mistake.
Does anyone know any registry fields to change this?
I've tried the accessible settings in Settings > Buttons > Up/Down Control but they have no effect.
Thanks!
Si

yes i would be interested in this too.

I've searched the registry but couldn't fnd anything applicable. I found one key which was reported in another forum, but it had no effect.

WAY NOT TAP (WITH FINGER) ON THE AREA AND THEN MOVE L/R
I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE "SLOW" MOVMENT FOR SOME APPS/FILES

well that is why I do, like you say. I guess slow movement may be useful for some things.
When you're in the middle of a text message or email though, it can take days to scroll through a message.
Its also very hard to pinpoint the cursor to the right area with out using the stylus (i.e. with your finger nail).....
...part of the beauty of the 614c for me is the phone keypad which allows T9 input (T9 input being super fast compared to any qwerty input with two fingers), but when you can't edit the message very easily it becomes annoying.

Im sorry to say that I don’t know/suffer from your prob
not that I do want problems, but the thing is that all text is within the bounds of the screen (for me on long doc/mail....) so the only need for fast thing is up down
maybe you have a different setting that lets you see "out of the screen" ~ the need for fast L/R scrolling
as for ie tx9 I don’t use this method so ….. I disabled the default settings of having it on first thing
for ie address I use pie-plus app ,it has within it's settings option for quick words/address and finger scrolling or open more then one tab etc.
but you asked so I will give you the solution
please backup your device
open a reg edit like this free one
http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
then go to HKLM/software/tegic/et9/ime
tap on D-WORD "carrierDefaultTextMode"
set value from "0" to "1"
enjoy

for l/r scrolling, what i'm talking about is when you're editing a text message or an email, they can get quite long. so say you're editing a message, then you realise you need to add a word at the start or edit a word in the middle, it takes ages to scroll to the middle or the beginning using the l/r scrolling on the smart touch wheel....and when i say ages, i mean ages, at least compared to how quickly it works on the smartphones with a hard nav joystick/wheel.
it has nothing to do with whether you can see the text on the screen. its to do with moving the caret/cursor/pointer around within the text.
thanks for that registry entry...i did try it, but it made no difference. IE still uses abc method.
i may look at that pie-plus ting though, looks like it may help.

sikittle said:
forthanks for that registry entry...i did try it, but it made no difference. IE still uses abc method.
i may look at that pie-plus ting though, looks like it may help.
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works for me
did you save the reg by "exit " turn off the device for 10 sec then SR ?
any way i will also try to look into the scroll....

it changes the default method for applications like Internet Explorer for you? not just SMS composing?
I'll try it again...

hey yeah
that did work, thanks!! (making the default mode actually work as default in all circumstances)
i just typed it wrong.

told you so i will also look into the wheel thing im now into helping with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403736

more option etc. mainly 4 ipaq 600

hmmmm.....do you know how to make that keyboard fix work even when you install a 3rd party keyboard.
I was trying to install a finger friendly keyboard for the times when you have to type in passwords or other such delicates, but if i do that after having made that modification it loses it as the default.

[Upd 8/06] iContact 1.03 ender's edition: Menu animation, autohide, Smart dial number

Hi All,
Here is the latest iContact ender's edition. As much as I would like to keep my own branch of the source code I would hate to rewrite the same functionality written by burt or subpro. That is why right now I am just implementing my changes to the latest version of iContact with most functionality.
Known issues
- Included VGA skin is just the resize of QVGA. It has some problems with small dial icons. I am hoping someone can post a VGA skin so I can include in the next version.
- Scroll sometimes slow down while hiding the bottom menubar.
- You might need to tap twice to open a contact.
Requests
- Can someone post screenshots plz.
- Current mobile, home, office icons are from original WM. They look ok but I'm sure one of you gfx talents can come up with smtg much better.
Version History
1.03
Feature : It is now based on Burt 6 codebase (Thanks to Burt). This brings all his features. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402724 for his updates. Also please thank him for what he has done.
Feature : Displayed default number is now smarter. iContact will scan your outgoing call log the first chance it gets and use the most used number as default displayed number.
Feature : There is now a menu button animation while switching tabs. (See the configuration application for disabling/adjusting this)
Feature : Bottom menu now automatically hides while scrolling. (See the configuration application for disabling/adjusting this)
Feature : Call button (green soft button) will now call the selected contact
Modified : It comes with a default (and only) diamond skin which is based on Lycox's work. (Sorry Punker I was going to use your skin but since I switchted to burt's code skin format has changed as well )
Modified : Call times show next to the icon instead of on top of the icon
Fix : When you go back from the details page, that contact will be highlighted
Fix : Fixed a bug where having only one call log item would crash
1.02
Feature : It is now based on the 0.76 codebase of subpro. This brings many features like VGA support and all that. See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395829 for his updates. Also please thank/donate him if you like his work.
Feature : Number of repeated calls (incoming/outgoing/missed) is now shown as part of the icon as a small number in a circle (Sorry I broke the skins again fellas)
Feature : A default phone number will now show under the name (You can disable this using the setting DisableDialingNumber in settings.ini) (You can set the font of this number using "DialingNoListFont" and color using "ListItemNumberText" setting in the skn file.)
Feature : An icon showing the type of number will show next to the default number (You can disable this using the setting DisableDialingNumberIcon)(These icons are again part of the skin)
Feature : When you long press a contact for a period of time (setting LongTapDelay) , it will automatically dial the default number for that contact. (Disable using DisableLongTapAction)
Feature : There is a visual indicator for long pressing to show when the dial will occur and which contact will be dialed.
Feature : There is now a minimize button on the top right. Again this is in the skin file. If you don't like it just remove it from the skin.
Feature : There is now a new setting in the skin file "HeaderTextDetail" for those who want to have a different colored header on the details screen.
Fix : Fixed a bug where contact pictures didn't show even when stopped
Fix : Fixed an issue with drawing pictures that slowed down the drawing. However there is still some screen tearing going on due to new icons and stuff.
Fix : It now works with WM5
Note : There are 2 different cabs for wm5 an wm6. wm5 version also works on wm6 but i think it performs slower.
1.01
Feature : Contact Pictures will now display below a certain scroll velocity. So now you can have best of both worlds: Fast scroll speed and contact pictures. Velocity treshold can be set in the ini file with "PictureVelocityTreshold"
Feature : Width of the hidden scroll bar that is used to navigate between letters are now configurable in the SKIN file. Keyword "InvisibleScrollbarWidth"
Modified : I changed the versioning scheme so there is no confusion between diffferent iContact flavors
Modified : Back button and '+' button click areas are now bigger.
Fix : Fixed a memory leak which eventually crashed the application
Fix : Fixed an issue where black colors on contact pictures would show as background color
Fix : Fixed a bug where scrolling would sometimes jump to the end of contact list
0.76f
Feature: There are now 2 configuration settings (DisableContactPictures and DisableHistoryIcons). Add a line saying "DisableContactPictures=1" (without quotes) to the end of the settings.ini if you dont want to see pictures.
Modified: Hidden scroll bar for scrolling between letters is now wider
Fix : Fixed the problem with the skin so + sign should now be visible
0.76e
Feature : Contact Pictures on Contacts and Favorites List
Feature : Call History now shows icons next to items to indicate if it is a missed, incoming or outgoing call
Feature : Contacts and Favorites will now only load when the application starts and whenever there is a change in contact list (internal or external) (Instead of loading everytime you switch a tab)
Feature : Call log will now only load when the application starts and whenever there is a change in the call log
Feature : While loading contacts or call log it will now show an hourglass to show that it is doing something.
Feature : iContact now comes with a default diamond skin (Thx to lyrox)
Modified : Enlarged the area that can be clicked on top right. Closing / Minimizing the application should now be much easier.
Modified : Taping once during scrolling will now just stop the scrolling, you need to tap again to access contacts.
Modified : Since there are now icons, I removed missed called highlight
Modified : '+' sign that is used to add new contacts is now on the left to prevent accidental clicking to close
Fix : Fixed a bug where clicking Recents would sometimes crash the application
- If you like my work please donate Unicef http://www.supportunicef.org/site/pp.asp?c=9fLEJSOALpE&b=1023561
-This software is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
-If you are interested in source code, just post a reply here or send me a private message. I will send it to anyone without any questions.

Sounds GREAT!! Any screen-shots??

tnx man very nice app!!
you modifite like i want to!!!
sorry for my bad english!!

works on vga but all seems so little!
is there any vga skin?

Thanks,
working nice, but I don't see any plus icon on the upper left side?

Works great!!
I dont see how to add new contact though.......also, is it possible to have the 4th icon dial voicemail instead of going to your phone??

great work on icontact, i may try the new version as im more concerned about performance but hopefully its worth the upgrade
edit: where is the performance version?

I would like a light colored skin. Top bar same as S2*** stuff but with a white back ground maybe a little iphonish but not to much. Does anybody know where I can find one?
Thanks.

the changes are wonderful....the stopping by clicking and the log icons..... but there are 2 problems in my eyes:
1. I think the photos in the list are pointless - they are not REALLY needed. the whole point of icontact was to keep it fast and to take less memory. it changes the loading time and makes the program heavier.
2. The scrolling is much much slower and unstable than in 0.75
thanks for the hard work.

awesome job! thanks

This is so freakin phenomenal!!
Maybe 3 suggestions, but only from the stand point of desire not lack of talent!!! Could you add it sort by Category? And could you place a button on the Recent page that launches the sms application of choice like the phone button launches cprog.exe???? Finally, I would like to know how to change the width of the hidden alphabet selector on the right side. I need a little more pixel width for my thumbs.
Thanks again

sounds great, trying it now
many thanks!!!

nir36 said:
the changes are wonderful....the stopping by clicking and the log icons..... but there are 2 problems in my eyes:
1. I think the photos in the list are pointless - they are not REALLY needed. the whole point of icontact was to keep it fast and to take less memory. it changes the loading time and makes the program heavier.
2. The scrolling is much much slower and unstable than in 0.75
thanks for the hard work.
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Hey nir, I agree the scrolling has slowed up over .75.. However personally I like the photos. Even with them it is way less memory the PocketCM and provides a little eye candy!!

ya it looks so small with vga, can someone fix it?

makeveral said:
ya it looks so small with vga, can someone fix it?
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same for me

thanks alot for the nice share.

stanglifemike said:
Sounds GREAT!! Any screen-shots??
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Sorry I neither have time nor skills to take screenshots and erase pictures/names from them
spupuz said:
works on vga but all seems so little!
is there any vga skin?
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sorry I dont have a VGA device so it is not top on my priority list. but I know subpro have finished a VGA version and it is in beta.
Vitekg said:
Thanks,
working nice, but I don't see any plus icon on the upper left side?
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stanglifemike said:
Works great!!
I dont see how to add new contact though.......also, is it possible to have the 4th icon dial voicemail instead of going to your phone??
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For some reason the + sign doesnt show up. I will fix this in the next version (which will be very soon). In the meantime just imagine the + sign is there on the top left of contact list screen title bar and press. It is working just the graphics is not there.
As for the 4th icon i will consider something more useful or configurable for a future version.
xboxhaxorz said:
edit: where is the performance version?
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This is the performance version
nir36 said:
1. I think the photos in the list are pointless - they are not REALLY needed. the whole point of icontact was to keep it fast and to take less memory. it changes the loading time and makes the program heavier.
2. The scrolling is much much slower and unstable than in 0.75
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To be honest with you scrolling havent changed on my Polaris even single bit but I am considering making photos configurable.
curious george said:
Could you add it sort by Category? And could you place a button on the Recent page that launches the sms application of choice like the phone button launches cprog.exe???? Finally, I would like to know how to change the width of the hidden alphabet selector on the right side. I need a little more pixel width for my thumbs.
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Sorting by category is not very easy. iContact has no category support yet when/if this is added I will consider.
I am not sure where on recent pages i can put sms application link.
When you say alphabet selector do you mean the button that opens up the alphabet or the buttons on the alphabet screen. Alphabet screen is already full I dont think you can put any more than that. As for the launching button, it is configurable.

endermalkoc said:
Sorting by category is not very easy. iContact has no category support yet when/if this is added I will consider.
I am not sure where on recent pages i can put sms application link.
When you say alphabet selector do you mean the button that opens up the alphabet or the buttons on the alphabet screen. Alphabet screen is already full I dont think you can put any more than that. As for the launching button, it is configurable.
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icontact does have category support. I have a version that does it. I like yours better however. On the recent calls page there is an open spot to the far right on the tab bar. The alphabet search page itself is fine, I was speaking of the hidded bar on the right side that you can press and hold to bring up the letters and then scroll to jump to the one you want.

just wanted to say great app! thanks, and waiting for ur next innovation

curious george said:
icontact does have category support. I have a version that does it. I like yours better however.
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The source code I am working on doesnt have it unfortunately.
curious george said:
On the recent calls page there is an open spot to the far right on the tab bar.
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I see what you mean. I havent decided what to do with that space. There are several things that might go there such as settings button or categories list. I think that space is too valuable to put an sms button I almost never just open an sms link. Instead I find the contact I want to send SMS and then click the sms button on the details page.
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The alphabet search page itself is fine, I was speaking of the hidded bar on the right side that you can press and hold to bring up the letters and then scroll to jump to the one you want.
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It is not configurable, it is hardcoded in the code as 20pixels. I will increase it to 30 in the next version

Number of sms characters

I have ROM 1.93 and the ammount of characters of the sms is hidden behind the keyboard. I heard that the old ROM had it in the taskbar.
Is there any tool or reg.key to put the counter somewhere else?
Or maybe a pop-up like the old SE phones have, with a notice thay you've entered the next sms.
Because I'm switching from provider for 3G and I won't have unlimited sms to my g/f anymore lol

I know it's not an ideal solution but, while you're typing up your SMS, tapping the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen will toggle the keyboard on and off so you can check at any time before you send whether you've gone over the 160 character limit or not. It is a pain in the arse to have to keep doing it but at least it lets you see the info you need.

Yeah I already found this solution, but it's not that practical.
Also if I tap the incon in the botto my keybaord doens't dissapear, but I get the input options, where I can change the keybaord layouts.
When you type an sms outside TF3D, you see the count in the taskbar.
But I prefer TF3D, so I can work without stylus.
Hoped someone with program abilities countered the same problem and made a little fix for it.

Bizarrely if you are typing a reply it shows the characters in the task bar at the top left but if you type a new message it is under the text and hidden by the keyboard.

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I know it's not an ideal solution but, while you're typing up your SMS, tapping the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen will toggle the keyboard on and off so you can check at any time before you send whether you've gone over the 160 character limit or not. It is a pain in the arse to have to keep doing it but at least it lets you see the info you need.
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You need to tap away from the triangle/arrow beside the keyboard icon.

Hmm ok so no other solution then clicking away the keybaord, make adjustments, click it away again to check if enough etc etc.
I'll reserve 5 minutes per sms then, because smsing with the touchscreen isn't that quick either. lol

That's not a problem specific to the Diamond.
SMSs are a pain on touchscreens. They are a pain on Windows Mobile.
And of couse the Diamond is Windows Mobile AND touch screen...

Looking for couple of rare tweaks... - please help

Hi there,
I am hoping to find just a few rare tweaks for my Diamond, here they are:
1. Anybody ever though of (can't believe nobody did) a tool for left-handed users? Specifically, a.o.:
- WM vertical scrollbar displayed on the left not on the right
- In TF3D, the People tab, the slide-out bar to display some of my favorites is on the right and not on the left. Sliding with left hand is no good because the palm covers the screen.
2. Is there any way to transfer contacts with non-ASCII symbols from htc memory to SIM?
3. Managing text messages. Once you browse Inbox and single click on a message it displays along with the keyboard. What makes big sense once you want to send a message is useless for reading messages. Any way to rid the screen of it? How about the font used to display the message. Which registry variable sets it?
4. How about SMS channels be displayed on today screen? It is possible to add the channel but not display it.
regards

With regards to #3, can't you just tap the keyboard symbol at the bottom-center of the screen to make it disappear?

I sure can, but tell me one reason to do it?

Woijtek said:
I sure can, but tell me one reason to do it?
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To make the KB go away...

lol
lol thats funy

you could use ZeNoKeyboard it's freeware i think...just google it