I have a Tilt, which (I'm sure most of you know) AT&T has intelligently decided to have HTC remove the front-camera from - ya know, the one that would make a video call possible...
Anyway, I found an HTC original TyTNII/Kaiser housing with the front bezel with the video 'hole' on it on CNN.CN for $70, and was wondering if anyone knows where I could get the camera portion of it, and if this conversion is possible? I already have Dutty's pre-departure WM6.1 ROM on the phone, so I'm anticipating that the ROM is capable of it - just not the phone.
Any success stories, testimonials, ideas, advice, words of caution or other?
TIA,
M
You know, of course, that the AT&T network doesn't support video calls -- that's why they didn't select the 2-camera version of the Kaiser.
3waygeek said:
You know, of course, that the AT&T network doesn't support video calls -- that's why they didn't select the 2-camera version of the Kaiser.
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No, actually, I didn't know that...I thought video sharing was possible with it...I guess I just assumed that meant even live video.
Well, nevermind this thread then!! Stupid AT&T.
Thanks!
- M
Actually, it'd still be useful to know how easy it is to do it. Considering I'm currently using the Tilt in a country that does support Video calls...
i would be interested to know if this was possible as well
It would be great to know this, simply because it makes it easier to take self pictures and use your phone as a webcam. In fact, maybe we can get a seperate Kaiser 3 megapixel camera and stick it in that front cam area.
I personally think that it is not this easy to do and the costs propably would exceed the amount you saved by buying the Tilt Version of the Kaiser
Samson711 said:
I personally think that it is not this easy to do and the costs propably would exceed the amount you saved by buying the Tilt Version of the Kaiser
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Maybe...but to be honest, I bought 3 HTC's with cracked LCD's on Fleabay (8125, 8525, and the Tilt) for Under $400....then I fixed and resold the other two, and ended up with a 'Like-new' Tilt for about $120....Consdering what I would have paid new, I think I saved a lot more than just the difference between a new Kaiser and what I'm 'into' my Tilt for.
Sorry - just started fixing HTC's and felt the need to boast a little....
- M
Congratulations! Though changing the screens is trivially easy on HTC phones... all you need is a torx wrench and some courage...
so the quest continues.....does anyone have any inner knowledge of the tilt that can shed some light ?
A lot of guys upgraded the Cingular variant of the Blue Angel to add the missing back camera. Might want to check there for inspiration.
When you had the tilt open did you see a "socket" where the camera should be? If so then it might be as easy as the BA upgrade was in which case the hardest part will be finding the camera plug-in piece for sale.
If I'm not mistaken, when I changed out the case on my 8525 (Hermes) it had the "drop-in socket" for the front facing camera. I believe I even spent some time trying to track one down to plug in for the same webcam reason.
Just to shed some light on this topic.. all ATT varients are HTC boards and have the connector for the front facing camera. The only hard part is finding one.
Enigma_cpl03 said:
Just to shed some light on this topic.. all ATT varients are HTC boards and have the connector for the front facing camera. The only hard part is finding one.
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yea same thing where could we get the front cam i just ordered the new case and want to get the camera. please pm me if you know where i can get one.
I remember in the hermes forum somebody had installed the forward facing camera on their 8525 and it was just plug and play, no soldering needed (i think theres also a thread at hofo). But obviously you'll also need to flash a WWE rom that supports video calling.
I was gonna do the same and buy the orange case from cnn.cn but the camera is nowhere to be found, i'm gonna shoot an email to cnn.cn other than that i'd suggest searching on ebay fora damaged tytn ii.
Also for video share, its going to be one way from the camera on the back. For example, if i video share call someone :S then they'd see what my rear camera is recording but i can't see anything from their camera.. i guess its just a way to milk us for our money.
Just out of curiosity, would you even neccessarily even need a Kaiser front camera? I'm guessing that any camera from the same spec from any HTC (and probably other brands) should work.
Well to be completely honest with ATT network, the front facing camera would allow a video conference call only in a 3G blanketed area due to the fact that it would be the same lines as a video share that ATT offers. It would require a simultaneous voice and data connection.
I have been thinking about doing this myself. I looked through the service manual and found that it listed the P/N as 54H00225-00M. I am not sure where to find it but possibly from a repair facility or something. I would love to have that front camera, hopefully someone will figure it out.
You wouldn't need the front-facing camera just for video calls. You could use it to take pictures of yourself when out with a group.
does at&t networks in the US even support this feature even if you get it to work?
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The rumors are finally debunked. The 8525 unfortunatley has no front camera:
that sucks... guess i can stop gathering all the reg values now... i wonder if its possible to buy the cam somewhere and put in on and mod the case.. oh well thats to much work that i dont have time for
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The rumors are finally debunked. The 8525 unfortunatley has no front camera:
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We could start a rumor that certain serial numbers have the camera and these have been allocated to certain states only.
We then encourage people to get their drills out and use plenty of pressure as that TyTn's real solid. Now the thing is, what states don't we like, which ones have folks with the old Brain Alignment issue - Illinois?, Missouri? or maybe those Georgian boys???
Place yer votes here.
Oh my.... I can see this gettin' me in real doodoo.
Mike
mikechannon said:
We could start a rumor that certain serial numbers have the camera and these have been allocated to certain states only.
We then encourage people to get their drills out and use plenty of pressure as that TyTn's real solid. Now the thing is, what states don't we like, which ones have folks with the old Brain Alignment issue - Illinois?, Missouri? or maybe those Georgian boys???
Place yer votes here.
Oh my.... I can see this gettin' me in real doodoo.
Mike
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um yeah, i have one of the special serial numbers here in missouri and mine has a camera, just had to get a 1/2" drill and drill a hole straight through the phone, then when i was done i affixed a couple of mirrors angled in different directons on the back of my phone so that it reflects through the hole in the front of the phone, and voila my back camera now works in both directions...
WTF ... looks like a lot of people were right in buying the TyTN ..
But then how do we know that the pic is of a 8525? :hehehe:
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WTF ... looks like a lot of people were right in buying the TyTN ..
But then how do we know that the pic is of a 8525? :hehehe:
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Tell me, what can you use the front camera for at this time?
Is there any way to video conference in the USA?
No, right? It's more of a potential use right now and probably for the next 2 yrs, no?
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Tell me, what can you use the front camera for at this time?
Is there any way to video conference in the USA?
No, right? It's more of a potential use right now and probably for the next 2 yrs, no?
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Actually yes video teleconferencing does work on Cingulars net work. I was recently invited to a 3G training and got to see the demonstration from the Ericsson team.
Apps like CoolCamera are starting to show up which support the front cam .. And I think IM apps supporting mobile video conferencing are not that far away ... The next version of Skype is rumored to have it ..
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Tell me, what can you use the front camera for at this time?
Is there any way to video conference in the USA?
No, right? It's more of a potential use right now and probably for the next 2 yrs, no?
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Sure you can. There are a number of H.323 apps out there
Apparently, Cingular engineers are saying the system is capable of VC. This is interesting b/c earlier engineering sources stated here that the necessary QOS enhancements don't exist in the ericsson equipment they're installing.
Still, I bought my TyTN for it's front camera and the slew of video call enhanced VoIP apps that will be released in 2K7.
Hint: M$ is working on one of them....
Sleuth255
The only video service will be the Video Share ( one way ) feature which will be available only on the LG CU500 in Jan-Mar '07. Unlikely VC will see the light soon.
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Sleuth255
The only video service will be the Video Share ( one way ) feature which will be available only on the LG CU500 in Jan-Mar '07. Unlikely VC will see the light soon.
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I heard someone mention Skype Mobile will support VC soon, too.
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Apparently, Cingular engineers are saying the system is capable of VC. This is interesting b/c earlier engineering sources stated here that the necessary QOS enhancements don't exist in the ericsson equipment they're installing.
Still, I bought my TyTN for it's front camera and the slew of video call enhanced VoIP apps that will be released in 2K7.
Hint: M$ is working on one of them....
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are you referring to the program called microsoft portrait? i came across that several months ago, but looks like it was more geared towards video calling over lan (wireless lan) but then again as long as both people had an IP address it should work
So i'm in saudi arabia now for the holidays and i'm going to trade my K-Jam (Wizard) in for a jasjam. Today i stopped by the Axiom service center, which is one of the most popular warranty providers here, and i asked them about the screen alignment issue and the guy told me he's had no problems with the JasJam.. is that right? I've looked in the wiki and didn't notice anything about the JasJam so i just wanted to make sure.
My other quetions pertain to rom's and programs but i guess i could figure all that out when i get the baby in my hands. But is there anything else i should be aware of before hand?
Thanks in advance and i look forward to moving over to the Hermes thread!
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So i'm in saudi arabia now for the holidays and i'm going to trade my K-Jam (Wizard) in for a jasjam. Today i stopped by the Axiom service center, which is one of the most popular warranty providers here, and i asked them about the screen alignment issue and the guy told me he's had no problems with the JasJam.. is that right? I've looked in the wiki and didn't notice anything about the JasJam so i just wanted to make sure.
My other quetions pertain to rom's and programs but i guess i could figure all that out when i get the baby in my hands. But is there anything else i should be aware of before hand?
Thanks in advance and i look forward to moving over to the Hermes thread!
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Well as regards the Screen Alignment problem I believe this is far less of an issue than it was. I do still see the odd comment though, that someone with a newer device has a problem.
You are obviously not new to the forum and I guess you've looked around the Hermes posts but maybe this one is relevant?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280383&page=5
Might also want to search a bit on video playback issues regarding the likes of Coreplayer (TCPMP) where there have been issues. Also some issues with bluetooth might be worth searching. Wifi range maybe an issue 10-15metres ok but weak over this distance. One or two with slack/loose sliding keyboards - check if possible for firm clicks on open and closed when buying. Less of an issue now but some keyboards have slightly unresponsive keys - work but need very firm or firmer press again check on purchasing if possible.
Just some thoughts, despite any niggles a great device.
Mike
Thanks for your reply. As for software issues, i've read posts about them and figured thats something i'd deal with when i get the device, i'm mainly concerned about hardware issues. Wifi is pretty useless to me on a daily basis because i have the unlimitted data package, which i abuse to the MAX! that brings another question, hows the batter with a data connection always on? because the nokia N80 doesn't last through the day with its UMTS bands on.
The sliding mechanism, even if i knew nothing about the device, thats something i'd automaticly check, the sliding integrity. Also i remember about 2 months ago reading about issues with the sticky/hard keys, i'll check that out as well, but pretty sure most stores won't let me put the battery in it till i pay and after that i have to deal with the company that the device's warranty is under.j
i'm gonna do some more snooping around in the hermes thread but what bluetooth issues are you talking about specifically? i don't use a bt headset, but i might buy a stereo one if the battery can handle about 4 hours of music playback a day. Also that fossil/sony ericsson BT watch looks pretty neat, might grab one of those as well, but i just treated myself to a Concord Saratoga with the chronographs 3 days ago so don't need another watch
Thank you mike for your input and i'm really excited to get this device! i'm supposed to attend 2 christmas parties tonight, pretty sure i'm either going to be in the corner playing with my JasJam or at my parents place watching it charge!
Happy playing with new toy!
The bluetooth thing is more software than hardware, the following will give you some idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1079019
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287100&highlight=stack
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287210&highlight=stack
I cannot really summarise as I don't really use bluetooth myself.
Mike
Thanks for your replies, i skipped my best friends X-Mas dinner to go buy my Hermes... haha, its ok he's a tech freak as well and he'll understand. Just plugged in my baby into the charger and my girlfiends jealous already so can't touch it for 8 hours... so my girlfriend will keep me occupied till then
Now i've got to figure out which is the best rom and and whats the best case for me... i don't want to put a scratch on this thing, unlike my K-Jam which looked like it went through a war!!
Thanks again, heading over to the upgrading and accessories thread to bug some people there
fone_fanatic
Congrat's m8 ..how much did u payed ?
3,099 Saudi Riyals which converts to $826.40 american
Ok, so I'm thinking of buying my friend's ATT 8525, but he had a malfunction with his camera so he had to remove it. Right now I have a Cingular 8125, could I take out my camera and put it into the 8525?
Thanks in advance!
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Ok, so I'm thinking of buying my friend's ATT 8525, but he had a malfunction with his camera so he had to remove it. Right now I have a Cingular 8125, could I take out my camera and put it into the 8525?
Thanks in advance!
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Well only if it's the same part No. Download the manuals for the two phones and look up the parts - it'll show you pictures as well. You can get them here: www.mikechannon.net
To be honest I think you'll be very luck if they are the same part. I'd be more curious about what he did with the original camera and what fault it was that made him remove it completely. You can probably get a second hand camera pretty cheap off a parted out Hermes on the net. There are a lot of broken Hermes out there with white screen issues so I guess there are lots of parts available. Might even get the part from someone here.
Mike
Yea, I'll look up the manuals and if not, I'll check for parts on eBay.
Thanks for the input!
Hi,
I was happy with my old nokia because it has a software that makes photo or video even if the program was running in background, so that it was invisible. And with my old nokia I was able to find the thief in my apartment (it was a friend of mine...).
Now that I have my new Diamond I cannot find a software that can take photo or make video in background, so that if someone will find my diamond, he cannot think that it is recording, and so he will never destroy my htc!!
Any ideas?
this is the dumbest idea ive heard, just purchase a cheap security camera, if not get a webcam and recording software. Even better how bout you don't leave your diamond alone so it cant be found, stole and destroyed like u say.
Quanni90 said:
this is the dumbest idea ive heard, just purchase a cheap security camera, if not get a webcam and recording software. Even better how bout you don't leave your diamond alone so it cant be found, stole and destroyed like u say.
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No, I cannot use other things.. I need something that could be placed everywhere in my house, and that is familiar, like my htc!
Look at these photos taken with my old nokia:
My cotenant cannot suspect of my htc if it seems turned off, and it cannot be stolen by my cotenant (because it is a too clamorous theft).
if hes your theif then put the htc down and start throwing some slaps, if u want you can easily set your diamond to record video but set the option under power in system to turn off display but still stay on
You should not post those pictures in public.
if the thief see your htc diamond,you think that he will let it and not take it?in that way,you will lose and your diamond
It's clear that you don't have a thief brain!! If you are my cotenant, you cannot steal something too big! It must be something that when you'll realize that it is stolen you may think "maybe I have lost it!!" and not "one of my cotenant has stolen it!!".
No? That's why I can use my phone to do this work.
Nowadays if you check the net, there are lots of spy cameras that comes in 1001 shape and sizes. You yourself will not even notice it after a while. Best is also get the wireless ones....wired is a no no...you might even get sued by the person you wanna take picture of.
Since the guy who is doing this is your friend, go and slow talk with that guy...have a beer and call it even...if he still insist in going in your apartment, then its time to spend on some padlocks.
Thanks to all, but we are in Diamond software forum, so we are off topic if we speak about spycam!
What is happening to me is not related to Diamond software. I know that there are other possibility than using my diamond, but I'm here to find a way to use the diamond!
so, please, keep in topic this thread.
perhaps you should get some new friends
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perhaps you should get some new friends
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another OT...
I work in a machine shop and there are a lot of very fine steel chips everywhere. When I put my phone in my pocket all of the fine chips get sucked into the phone from the external speaker magnet and the ear pc receiver magnet. The same thing was happening to me when I had a NexTel phone that had a much more powerful external speaker so, it was kind of understandable. But, at any rate I took the phone completely apart and cleaned the external speaker and that sounds fine now. I also cleaned the ear pc speaker but, I think some steel chips are too far in because the speaker still sounds like **** or it blew from having the chips on it too long. I would rather just replace the speaker myself instead of getting a re-furbished replacement from t-mobile. I looked all over but can't find a replacement ear pc. at all. It would be really cool if anybody know a place to get these type of pcs. Thanks in advance.
Come on guys. You mean to tell me that nobody on this forum knows where to get replacement parts. I find that hard to believe.
Thanks for the help. Lol
Mike,
If nobody has replied, then I guarantee you that nobody who has read your question knows where to find that part.
Now, there are a number of places that sell some types of replacement parts for the HD2...things like digitizers/screens, outer shells, buttons, etc, but I've never seen an item like the speaker you need sold through any distributor. That's the kind of part that rarely finds it's way into normal distribution channels, and so your best bet is to find a junked HD2 that doesn't work for some other reason, but has no problem with the earpiece, and then it would just be up to you to extract the component you need and pop it into your unit.
You can just do a regular google search for "HD2 replacement parts" to find the standard outlets for that type of thing, but I honestly doubt any of them will have exactly what you're looking for.
a few weeks ago I remember seeing a bricked hd2 for sale on ebay for parts. perhaps you can check ebay.
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Thanks for the help. Lol
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whoa, slow down UncleMike. At least 48 before getting excited. Im trying to fine the tiny LED cover for the back of my phone or just a whole rear plastic. So far this guy tells me he can get whatever. Cellular Parts USA. Give it a shot. Best of luck.
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whoa, slow down UncleMike. At least 48 before getting excited. Im trying to fine the tiny LED cover for the back of my phone or just a whole rear plastic. So far this guy tells me he can get whatever. Cellular Parts USA. Give it a shot. Best of luck.
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yeah that will be ideal if that guy can get he earpiece for it...he's got some for other models anyway. I note that he's got the pic and the title messed up for the HD2, it's listed as the "Touch HD2", with a pic of a TouchHD...and he's using the HD2 pic for the HD Mini lol.
Thanks everyone. I'll try the cell parts website that was mentioned and if that doesn't work I'll just do a claim on my insurance and get a functional refurbished one. It sucks, but what are you gonna do. I frown uppon refurbished phones. Lol. Thanks again guys for the responses.
www dot htcrepairparts dot com/internal-speaker-front-for-htc-hd-p-3043.html