I will be buying my Touch Cruise next week and have read that one of the first things I should do is update the ROM. It appears that the 2 most popular ones are: WM6.1 by BEBE and the Aserg rom.
From what I can see as a total beginner is that the Bebe has TomTom installed in the permeium edition and the Aserg rom does not have it. Can I install TomTom (comes with the Touch cruise I believe), after I update the ROM?
What are the big differences in terms of speed and functionality between the ROMs?
yes you can load TomTom on any ROM that doesnt have it already installed. The TC has the Built in Hardware to communicate with the software reguardless of the ROM.
Secondly the ROM that you use is usually personal preference. Most Roms have different features and software installed and some perform better than others depending on how much software comes loaded in them. You will probably end up flashing a few different ones before you decide which is best for you.
There is 1 more alternative. If you cannot find one to your liking there are plenty of threads here to which you can cook your own custom ROM.
Hope this helps... feel free to ask as much as needed... we are here to help!
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First a hello, since i am new to this forum, but very much impressed with everyones effort to pull as much out of these devices and software as possible.
I have been reading a lot about upgrading, flashing, bricks, problems, etc. This to increase my knowledge of what is and what can be. So, now i am thinking about upgrading my htc 3300 to WM6 and have a few questions i can not really find a direct answer for. I was looking for a all in one post or a recent update guide, but couldn't find one. Perhaps this can help others aswell.
Here we go:
A rom is like an image of the OS with certain applications included. You can flash this to your device overwriting the current OS and all of its applications? Does this mean anything i have installed like TT will be removed and i need to reinstall this?
USPL needs to be run first for all custom roms, but not for official HTC ones, then again it can't hurt to run it anyways? Does it leave any permanent changes?
Running USPL or upgrading to WM6 official or cooked has an effect on warrenty?
Are Custom WM6 roms or Official WM6, the real thing. As in it gives all the new functionality (*ahum*) that WM6 is supposed to or are the custom roms a 'simulation' to the real thing? Even if i read that the official wm6 doesnt have much to offer, will it increase performance or slow down things? Is there some post with all possible roms, custom included, like Mark, Meschle's, HTC, vanilla...
If TT is currently installed (pre installed actually), how can i reinstall this program or any maps if i happen to remove this. Is there a key somewhere i need to write down, can i make a backup copy/image so i can always put it back?
There are probably millions of questions more, but these are the ones going through my mind now. I am just somewhat cautious about changing anything to my new device, yet i really want the WM6 instead of WM5.
I hope some of you are willing to answer my questions or will i get a 'use the search function', cause trust me i have, there is just too much and its too much dispersed (sp?)
Ravennl said:
First a hello, since i am new to this forum, but very much impressed with everyones effort to pull as much out of these devices and software as possible.
I have been reading a lot about upgrading, flashing, bricks, problems, etc. This to increase my knowledge of what is and what can be. So, now i am thinking about upgrading my htc 3300 to WM6 and have a few questions i can not really find a direct answer for. I was looking for a all in one post or a recent update guide, but couldn't find one. Perhaps this can help others aswell.
Here we go:
A rom is like an image of the OS with certain applications included. You can flash this to your device overwriting the current OS and all of its applications? Does this mean anything i have installed like TT will be removed and i need to reinstall this?
yes you need to reinstall all your personal applications, and you will loose all the PIM's data as well
USPL needs to be run first for all custom roms, but not for official HTC ones, then again it can't hurt to run it anyways? Does it leave any permanent changes?
It does not leave any permanent changes, once you upgrade to new ROM it will return your mobile to notmal locked status.
Running USPL or upgrading to WM6 official or cooked has an effect on warrenty? some official distributor may cancel tha warranty if you upgrade to your own ROM.
Are Custom WM6 roms or Official WM6, the real thing. As in it gives all the new functionality (*ahum*) that WM6 is supposed to or are the custom roms a 'simulation' to the real thing? Even if i read that the official wm6 doesnt have much to offer, will it increase performance or slow down things? Is there some post with all possible roms, custom included, like Mark, Meschle's, HTC, vanilla...
You can check the details of each ROM from below link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=362
If TT is currently installed (pre installed actually), how can i reinstall this program or any maps if i happen to remove this. Is there a key somewhere i need to write down, can i make a backup copy/image so i can always put it back?
if you have backup program you better backup all the licensed softwares keys, because it will delete all preinstalled software.
There are probably millions of questions more, but these are the ones going through my mind now. I am just somewhat cautious about changing anything to my new device, yet i really want the WM6 instead of WM5.
I hope some of you are willing to answer my questions or will i get a 'use the search function', cause trust me i have, there is just too much and its too much dispersed (sp?)
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You can read all the post regarding the upgrade from this forum and it is very helpful for beginners
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=362
Just want to do a quick survey on who's using what and whether people take a risk on using a customised ROM, as for me, I just couldn't take the risk on something I don't really know about.
Advise on why you do what you do welcomed.
What additions does a cooked one give that installing progs cant?
I'm still waiting for some interesting cooked roms before I think about flashing it. I think further down the line I'll probably use a cooked rom but for now the stock rom with a few extra cabs suits me.
I'll stay for now at stock rom... In my personal case I find it working flawless with every bit of software I use.
Maybe in the future, when stock soft became obsolete, I'll update to a cooked rom, like I've done in my S200 (WM5.0 > WM6.1 )
i like to have cooked roms. i usually dont even use the phone till i flash a cooked rom. lol. rom and phone junkie. its in my veins.
I would have to agree, Stock Rom untill updates are no longer made then on to the cooked roms.
Was the same with my universal O2 stopped updates at WM5 if i remember correctly but then cooked roms offered WM5 aku 2 and then WM6 and now WM6.1. Love this site and all developers here. Keep up the good work.
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What additions does a cooked one give that installing progs cant?
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The first few things would be speed and storage space. Cooked rom "normally" removed junks and lots of unnecessary files/drivers/service which would speed up overall speed and performance. e.g. My lite rom would have 380+ mb space left compare 1xx mb in stock. I didn't do SPB benchmark on stock but I had post the benchmark of my rom in the thread.
On full rom w/ software that pre-installed and tailored to what you need lessen the time and space to backup since rom files are skipped w/ backup software.
jackleung said:
The first few things would be speed and storage space. Cooked rom "normally" removed junks and lots of unnecessary files/drivers/service which would speed up overall speed and performance. e.g. My lite rom would have 380+ mb space left compare 1xx mb in stock. I didn't do SPB benchmark on stock but I had post the benchmark of my rom in the thread.
On full rom w/ software that pre-installed and tailored to what you need lessen the time and space to backup since rom files are skipped w/ backup software.
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Yes jackleung, I saw your custom rom, it is very interesting yet, I really did not dare to do it fearing it your brick me device
And maybe I'm still waiting for more flexibility in the custom roms available?
I didn't know what to choose, cos I am not sure whether you were actually asking about the ROMs or the whole process of installing hardspl and another ROM (your first post). I checked stock ROM at the end, because that is what I use, but I had to flash my German Xperia with english ROM.
Yep, that was a right choice.
I'm still thinking about flashing. With my Trinity I used custom roms mainly because of the limited memory of the device. this isn't a problem with the x1 at all. I can run all kinds of programs simultaneously without getting any speeding problems. So I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to flash ...
You dont get any lag at all?
Lucky you, I still get slow downs with certain things. :|
well, it depends on the program. but slowdowns like on my trinity are gone. maybe it has something todo with the expectations one has in the device ...
cooked roms here on xda are far way better than original stock roms.
Hi,
I have just gone through the beginners guide and I have couple of queries.
1. I am having WM 6.5 original ROM from HTC for my HTC Touch Diamond2 and I am planning to go for cooked ROM. If anything goes wrong with Cooked ROM, Can I able to install again the WM 6.5 original ROM from HTC?
2. Whether cooked ROM have all the applications as which came from original ROM or some of application might not available in cooked ROM?
3. Mainly are we going for Cooked ROM only for look and feel and performance or anyother benefits are there like some extra built-in applications like that..?
4. How can we make sure whether particulat Cooked ROM will fit to our device. For example all the ccoked ROM in "Topaz ROM development" will fit for HTC Touch Diamond2?
Sorry for making so much questions, because it's better to prevent than cure.
and I am very much interested with the cooked ROM. thanks.
Hi, let me try to answer based on my exprerience:
1. Once you have installed Olinex HardSPL1.83 (which is simply NECESSARY), you'll be able to flash ANY ROM of ANY country, cooked or official. Just remember to re-lock the phone (see HardSPL thread) and put an official ROM back if you ever need to send the device back for assistance covered by warranty.
2. Generally, some really useless apps are removed in order to get more free memory but they still are available around , if someone really misses them.
3. Cooked ROMs main advantage is that they have updated apps,less bugs and, as you said, more speed and stability. Cooks generally tend to leave a maximum space available so that single users decide how to use it, but I guess it's also for copyright reasons that no extra apps are added. There are exceptions..for example my ROM contains a very cool app (ported from another HTC device) that allows my phone to act like a WiFi Acces Point, which wasn't there in the official build..Anyway when a ROM is published, cooks always make a list of what was removed,added or updated.
4. Only ROMs listed in their relative phone threads will work. If you own a Touch Diamond 2 (aka Topaz), Topaz forum is the place where you will find working ROMs for it.
Ciao!
thanks for kind reply, sualc.
Hello,
I want to ask which one WM6.5 Rom most stabil & best ?
Because i want to upgrade from WM6.1 to WM6.5
How to make 2 OS (operating system) in my PDA.
I want to use WM6.5 & Android?
How to install use 2 OS.
There is no best ROM. If you ask 5 people, you get 5 different answers.
If you don't understand the basic tasks needed, you better leave flashing to someone else...
The only way for you: READ THE STICKY POSTS and the FAQs in the WIKI.
There is a specific reason they were written: Noobs like you.
Mods: Please lock this noob/nonsense thread
This one!
I have used different ROM's. I have used Dutty's, Miri's, Energy ROMS. Both WM 6.5 builds 21..., 23..., 28...
But I wanted speed and much memory left.
So the ROM I am using now, as you can see in my signature, is the best for me.
After a soft reset, there is 150 MB RAM memory. With Energy ROM 23... I only had 70 MB RAM.
The battery goes for days and I am a heavy user.
This is a very clean ROM without Manila, so you have to install everything yourself.
Glad to be of help...
in the touch hd rom development section you will find a variety of roms by different chefs and every one of those tries to make a rom, that is fast and stable and most of all, to their taste of style and features. rom threads are marked as [ROM| or [RELEASE| and for most, you will find the release date, rom language and version and manila version in the thread's title, which will give you a brief idea, which roms are not for you, e.g. if you want an english rom, ignore the NLD and PTG roms. and have a look at the screenshots in the threads to find one style, you could live with every day. there is no point in flashing a rom that is fast, stable and has a lot of features, when it is hideous and you can't stand looking at it.
in the end you will find maybe 3 roms, you like and you can simply give them a try. remember to back up your pim data, with pimbackup or outlook or ms myphone, because flashing requires a hard reset and you will lose all information stored on the phone. and a word of advice:
you will not find a rom that is as fast or even faster than the stock rom, they are all slow, but they give you more features and more eye candy, which kinda makes it worth a try.
by the way, i am using cloudy's v0.6 wm6.1 with sense 2.5, with a good sense version, the wm behind it does not really matter.
for instructions on how to flash a rom, have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
for android as a 2nd OS, have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732362
i also recommended cloudy rom, flash the latest version since it release till now, few week past, never hang even on heavy use.
Think this thread has been kept open long enough. Everyone has different tastes, like & dislikes so the perfect rom does not exist. You've been given a few pointers above
Thread closed
Hello,
Which is a good rom for Speed/Stability if anybody could reccomend me one, I find most of the custom ones are pretty much focused on Eye Candy and Attractive graphics.
I'm after something that is fast and stable, I guess I can just disable any themes if they come with them etc, as my current ROM (Factory ROM), is a bit buggy the transcriber when typing messages hangs sometimes (whole device freezes intermittently) and when writing on notes the device sometimes freezes, so i thought a custom ROM may somehow fix this and generally improve the speed of the device if anybody has made a custom rom focusing on speed and stability.
If anybody could recommend me a starting point i'd appreciate it as I don't want to go out flashing all of the ROMS out there but rather get an opinion on a good ROM to start off with.
Thanks.
that kind of behaviour is not normal for a stock rom. which exact one do you use (exact version and carrier)?
i personally use the official htc wwe rom 1.56 with the latest radio 1.17.25.09 and have none of the problems you described. but stock roms vary just as much as cooked roms. before this one, i used the very latest shipped rom, i believe it was the orange uk rom wwe 1.59 and it was far less stable, slower and had other integrated apps (and streaming media was missing).
since apparently you have used cooked roms before, have you performed a task 29 before flashing your current rom and are you certain to have performed at least one successful hard reset after flashing it?
MOD EDIT - Move to General forum. Please post all Q&A in General section
Ta
Rick
My details on the startup are :
R 1.09.25.14
G 52.49a.25.26u
D 1.18. 23358
I take it it's version 1.18?
Not sure which carrier it is but my Interface does have a "Starhub" Icon on it.
I don't konw what region my phone is originally from so will see what HTC websites i can download the official firmware from.
It actually freezes not just when using transcriber, it would do it anytime but more so when using transcriber or notes.
I want to install new rom in my phone. New rom would need to be wm6.5 and some older touchflo interface. Manila 2.5 is slow for my touchHD (I bought phone with cooked rom, but then I didnt know nothing about cooked roms).
What is most important to me is to have similar calendar as manila 2.5 calendar (or similar because windows calendar is painful to use with fingers).
So I want as speedy as it can be with wm6.5 touchflo combination.
Any propositions?