First a hello, since i am new to this forum, but very much impressed with everyones effort to pull as much out of these devices and software as possible.
I have been reading a lot about upgrading, flashing, bricks, problems, etc. This to increase my knowledge of what is and what can be. So, now i am thinking about upgrading my htc 3300 to WM6 and have a few questions i can not really find a direct answer for. I was looking for a all in one post or a recent update guide, but couldn't find one. Perhaps this can help others aswell.
Here we go:
A rom is like an image of the OS with certain applications included. You can flash this to your device overwriting the current OS and all of its applications? Does this mean anything i have installed like TT will be removed and i need to reinstall this?
USPL needs to be run first for all custom roms, but not for official HTC ones, then again it can't hurt to run it anyways? Does it leave any permanent changes?
Running USPL or upgrading to WM6 official or cooked has an effect on warrenty?
Are Custom WM6 roms or Official WM6, the real thing. As in it gives all the new functionality (*ahum*) that WM6 is supposed to or are the custom roms a 'simulation' to the real thing? Even if i read that the official wm6 doesnt have much to offer, will it increase performance or slow down things? Is there some post with all possible roms, custom included, like Mark, Meschle's, HTC, vanilla...
If TT is currently installed (pre installed actually), how can i reinstall this program or any maps if i happen to remove this. Is there a key somewhere i need to write down, can i make a backup copy/image so i can always put it back?
There are probably millions of questions more, but these are the ones going through my mind now. I am just somewhat cautious about changing anything to my new device, yet i really want the WM6 instead of WM5.
I hope some of you are willing to answer my questions or will i get a 'use the search function', cause trust me i have, there is just too much and its too much dispersed (sp?)
Ravennl said:
First a hello, since i am new to this forum, but very much impressed with everyones effort to pull as much out of these devices and software as possible.
I have been reading a lot about upgrading, flashing, bricks, problems, etc. This to increase my knowledge of what is and what can be. So, now i am thinking about upgrading my htc 3300 to WM6 and have a few questions i can not really find a direct answer for. I was looking for a all in one post or a recent update guide, but couldn't find one. Perhaps this can help others aswell.
Here we go:
A rom is like an image of the OS with certain applications included. You can flash this to your device overwriting the current OS and all of its applications? Does this mean anything i have installed like TT will be removed and i need to reinstall this?
yes you need to reinstall all your personal applications, and you will loose all the PIM's data as well
USPL needs to be run first for all custom roms, but not for official HTC ones, then again it can't hurt to run it anyways? Does it leave any permanent changes?
It does not leave any permanent changes, once you upgrade to new ROM it will return your mobile to notmal locked status.
Running USPL or upgrading to WM6 official or cooked has an effect on warrenty? some official distributor may cancel tha warranty if you upgrade to your own ROM.
Are Custom WM6 roms or Official WM6, the real thing. As in it gives all the new functionality (*ahum*) that WM6 is supposed to or are the custom roms a 'simulation' to the real thing? Even if i read that the official wm6 doesnt have much to offer, will it increase performance or slow down things? Is there some post with all possible roms, custom included, like Mark, Meschle's, HTC, vanilla...
You can check the details of each ROM from below link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=362
If TT is currently installed (pre installed actually), how can i reinstall this program or any maps if i happen to remove this. Is there a key somewhere i need to write down, can i make a backup copy/image so i can always put it back?
if you have backup program you better backup all the licensed softwares keys, because it will delete all preinstalled software.
There are probably millions of questions more, but these are the ones going through my mind now. I am just somewhat cautious about changing anything to my new device, yet i really want the WM6 instead of WM5.
I hope some of you are willing to answer my questions or will i get a 'use the search function', cause trust me i have, there is just too much and its too much dispersed (sp?)
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You can read all the post regarding the upgrade from this forum and it is very helpful for beginners
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=362
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Where the hell do I start?
... Told you it was quick!
OK, seriously though... I do have some experience hacking/flashing/flexing phones, but all that traces back to my Motorola days. This is nowhere near the same thing, not by a long shot. So I was just wondering if anybody could give me some tips, perhaps point me in the right direction because I have no idea where to even begin.
Thanks a lot and I really appreciate any and all help provided.
*EDIT* I forgot to mention... I know I'm responsible for all my own actions. If I screw up, then I screwed up.
Well - start when a RUU comes out + HTC4350 WM6 updates.
Before it's quite difficult to brake into the bootloader etc.
But some program suggestions:
- mtty
- IMGFS (some tools in it)
good luck
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into them. I was wondering if there was a readme/FAQ/Wiki that went into explaination on the terminology and whatnot regarding these monsters. I have no idea what an RUU is and I'd much rather read about it than bother people here with my newbieness.
I don't even know how to modify registry settings
In general, search for words like "ROM cooking; RUU; IPL; SPL; Bootloader; NBH file system; Extended ROM; Custom ROM" in all the forums to get an overview.
Keep in mind that the Herald has a newer ROM file system, so don't "copy" instructions 1-to-1.
Wizard, Hermes and Prophet subforums are very busy forums with lot's of infos on this topic, but again they all use an older ROM system.
And as xsign already mentionend better don't start ROM hacking on your device yet, because neither HTC nor any provider released an official WM6 ROM.
So there is no backing up solution yet in case something went wrong.
Hacking the Bootloader is right now impossible and therefore working custom ROMs are very very rare over here.
Cheers
hey,
in advance, sorry about that if this is a serious noob question. i searched and i read numerous threads but i'm still really confused.
basically, i'm getting a wizard at christmas, which has WM5 on it. I've had little look around, and the general (and somewhat obvious) concensus is that WM6 (or WWE or whatever) is way better. I'm really confused about the whole G3 G4 thing and the whole updating ROM things. I've read guides/tutorials and looked at a load of the Wiki stuff, but i'm still really confused.
Is it possible that someone might give me a bit of a really broken down idea (not step-by-step tutorial) as to updating the phone from WM5 to WM6. Like what is involved? length of time taken? what essentially i need to do? etc. If people can tell me what to update etc, like the radio thing and such, i'm more than happy to search for the guides and tutorials on this forum. the guides are excellently done and very easy to follow, but i'm still lost about what means what?
thanks,
t
Damned Noobs!
Ok, the for idiots version (don't worry, I once needed the for idiots version too)--
G3 Wizard= when you boot the phone and get a bunch of numbers on the initial screen it will say x.xx
G4 Wizard= x.xx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (joking, but it will have more decimals!)
The radio depends on location...I'm in Cali, I run 2.47 with the fix cab and have no issues...however...2.19 IS the recommended radio for the WM6 roms.
THERE IS NO SINGLE BEST ROM!! They all rock. The kitchen you choose is based on what fits YOU. I run Jaguar, I love it. But I like minimal apps, but not a vanilla rom. Read each kitchen posting carefully. Some come with all kinds of bells and whistles, some are minimal, some are really vanilla! Read what the bugs are, and if fixes have been posted.
Read Dr.P's tutorial at least 3 times on unlocking your Wiz (it is stickied).
You will want a few "must have" apps. Search lokiwiz, wst, and maybe even omap clock. Once CID/SIM unlocked, always unlocked. But before you flash a cooked rom, YOU MUST BE CID/SIM UNLOCKED!
When you flash a rom, you are not freeballing with your jacket open...flashing your rom simply means switching it out. It is recommended to flash back to a stock rom before trying out a new kitchen. This keeps the new install fresh and clean. Search for the stock rom. The search button is your friend. A lot of folks use the Tmo 2.26 stock rom.
And finally, invest in Sprite backup or a similar app. It makes things so much easier if you fubar ****. So always back your Wizard up.
And again, remember, read the wiki's and stickies until your eyes bleed. It is always best to know your device before playing around with it. What mods you do, you do at your own risk!
And an FYI, I don't honestly know if WM6 is better than WM5, but as the WM6's are all custom kitchens, they are a hell of a lot more fun!!
PS- the longest time taken is always in the initial modding. You MUST unlock your phone first...that will take a good 20 minutes at least. A typical rom flash takes roughly 10 minutes. A radio only flash takes 3 minutes...once you have done the initial work...you will find that if you want to change roms, you'll need to devote a whole 20 minutes---flash a stock rom, then flash a custom creation.
Are the roms on this forums better than the latest official roms from Sony and what extras do they bring?
Also, can you go back to the official one without loosing your warranty?
Thanks for your help.
Hi there, since you're new I'll cut you some slack and help you with some links. I know your join date is June 2007, but you have 3 posts to your name.
In future though, try to use the "Search" button up at the top-right of the screen.
This forum section is dedicated to SE X1 ROMs, flashing and all related activities with our phone. Pay attention to the sticky threads as they give useful information for newcomers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=471
Yes, many people consider the ROMs being cooked here on XDA-Dev to be superior to the original SE ROMs for a number of reasons.
You could have a "lite" ROM with all the excess programs stripped out so you have the leanest sized ROM for maximum storage capacity.
You could have a "Full" ROM with speed optimisations and a LOAD of programs integrated.
Some ROMs address different languages or world regions and some are just one person's preferred setup.
In the end, it's up to you which ROM you want to try. This is a list of ROMs that are currently being supported and developed here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477801
YES, it is possible to perform these upgrades without damaging your warranty. Most custom ROMs need something called Hard-SPL installed to allow installation of non-SE ROMs. It is also possible flash back to your original SPL if you need to send the phone back under warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431218
Flashing a ROM to your phone is not something to be undertaken lightly as it is *POSSIBLE* (though not likely) that you could brick your phone (make your phone unusable). Here's a step-by-step howto for flashing a ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446070
Most people on here are prepared to help out with legitimate queries and questions, but please use the Search facility first. It could be that your question has been asked and answered by someone before.
Have fun!
Hi,
I have just gone through the beginners guide and I have couple of queries.
1. I am having WM 6.5 original ROM from HTC for my HTC Touch Diamond2 and I am planning to go for cooked ROM. If anything goes wrong with Cooked ROM, Can I able to install again the WM 6.5 original ROM from HTC?
2. Whether cooked ROM have all the applications as which came from original ROM or some of application might not available in cooked ROM?
3. Mainly are we going for Cooked ROM only for look and feel and performance or anyother benefits are there like some extra built-in applications like that..?
4. How can we make sure whether particulat Cooked ROM will fit to our device. For example all the ccoked ROM in "Topaz ROM development" will fit for HTC Touch Diamond2?
Sorry for making so much questions, because it's better to prevent than cure.
and I am very much interested with the cooked ROM. thanks.
Hi, let me try to answer based on my exprerience:
1. Once you have installed Olinex HardSPL1.83 (which is simply NECESSARY), you'll be able to flash ANY ROM of ANY country, cooked or official. Just remember to re-lock the phone (see HardSPL thread) and put an official ROM back if you ever need to send the device back for assistance covered by warranty.
2. Generally, some really useless apps are removed in order to get more free memory but they still are available around , if someone really misses them.
3. Cooked ROMs main advantage is that they have updated apps,less bugs and, as you said, more speed and stability. Cooks generally tend to leave a maximum space available so that single users decide how to use it, but I guess it's also for copyright reasons that no extra apps are added. There are exceptions..for example my ROM contains a very cool app (ported from another HTC device) that allows my phone to act like a WiFi Acces Point, which wasn't there in the official build..Anyway when a ROM is published, cooks always make a list of what was removed,added or updated.
4. Only ROMs listed in their relative phone threads will work. If you own a Touch Diamond 2 (aka Topaz), Topaz forum is the place where you will find working ROMs for it.
Ciao!
thanks for kind reply, sualc.
hi guys im new here and im new in all of this.
i just bought htc touch hd so i got some question.
1. my htc with wm6.1 some people told me that it will be good if i will upgrade the wm6.1 to 6.5 and my device will be faster'
so how can i do that? i need to buy the software or it is free?
if i'll upgrade the software all the settings and the software will be remove?
2. where can i find sites for free apps?
thanks a lot.
read the wiki!!!
has all your answers!
it is free
need to hspl first (sticky in rom dev)
it will wipe everything but you can back up your data
it will wipe your system but you can revert back to your old rom easily
find free apps here!
o.k what is hspl? what is ROM?
do you recommended me to upgrade to wm6.5?
how i backup all the programs i dont have the installations. thers a guids how to do that all?
thank you!
hspl is a hard second program loader. you need to flash that to be able to change the operating system on your device.
roms are images of the operating system. they provide windows mobile in different versions (6.1 / 6.5 / 6.5.3 or even 6.5.5) and additionally come with different versions of manila (aka touchflo 3d or in newer versions also sense).
these are very basic things that you should read more about before attempting to flash your device, or you will break it. it is not like "press one button - done". flashing your device means tempering with your waranty and bypassing locks, set by htc.
you should definetely read threads like the "dummy's guide to hspl and uspl" in the rom development section of the blackstone forum.
in that section you will also find the differnet roms provided here, marked with [Release].
have a look at the different threads to find a rom that you like from the screenshots and read through the experiences, people post with it.
also, a lot of basic windows mobile information can be found on wikipedia's windows mobile and blackstone pages.
and of course, most of all, on xda-dev's own wiki here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:HTC_Blackstone.png
oh, and you shouldn't really back up programs, but re-install them on the new operating system, backing up too much stuff will cause your rom to run instable and slow. you should only use pimbackup, or MS myphone, or outlook, to backup personal data.
if you ever consider to go back to the exact rom you are using now, you could make a full backup with spb backup, but restoring that backup on another rom is highly un-recommended.
wwooww its complicated i think i will give up thanks anyway.
M-Be said:
wwooww its complicated i think i will give up thanks anyway.
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Don't give up. That's defeatist talk. Yeah, it is intemidating at first but nothing worth doing is easy. Just read and you will understand. I read and read and read and when I set down to do it I was able to install a custom rom without incident. That was a year and a half ago. I'm probably going to install a new rom soon so I will read and read and read again to refresh my memory. Part of the complexity stemed from there being two different methods of flashing the phone, iirc. If you give up on trying to mod your phone you might as well jsut have bought an apple.
M-Be said:
1. my htc with wm6.1 some people told me that it will be good if i will upgrade the wm6.1 to 6.5 and my device will be faster'
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It's in their imagination.