Stock ROM? Cooked ROM? Still Thinking About it? - XPERIA X1 General

Just want to do a quick survey on who's using what and whether people take a risk on using a customised ROM, as for me, I just couldn't take the risk on something I don't really know about.
Advise on why you do what you do welcomed.

What additions does a cooked one give that installing progs cant?

I'm still waiting for some interesting cooked roms before I think about flashing it. I think further down the line I'll probably use a cooked rom but for now the stock rom with a few extra cabs suits me.

I'll stay for now at stock rom... In my personal case I find it working flawless with every bit of software I use.
Maybe in the future, when stock soft became obsolete, I'll update to a cooked rom, like I've done in my S200 (WM5.0 > WM6.1 )

i like to have cooked roms. i usually dont even use the phone till i flash a cooked rom. lol. rom and phone junkie. its in my veins.

I would have to agree, Stock Rom untill updates are no longer made then on to the cooked roms.
Was the same with my universal O2 stopped updates at WM5 if i remember correctly but then cooked roms offered WM5 aku 2 and then WM6 and now WM6.1. Love this site and all developers here. Keep up the good work.

dadeadman said:
What additions does a cooked one give that installing progs cant?
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The first few things would be speed and storage space. Cooked rom "normally" removed junks and lots of unnecessary files/drivers/service which would speed up overall speed and performance. e.g. My lite rom would have 380+ mb space left compare 1xx mb in stock. I didn't do SPB benchmark on stock but I had post the benchmark of my rom in the thread.
On full rom w/ software that pre-installed and tailored to what you need lessen the time and space to backup since rom files are skipped w/ backup software.

jackleung said:
The first few things would be speed and storage space. Cooked rom "normally" removed junks and lots of unnecessary files/drivers/service which would speed up overall speed and performance. e.g. My lite rom would have 380+ mb space left compare 1xx mb in stock. I didn't do SPB benchmark on stock but I had post the benchmark of my rom in the thread.
On full rom w/ software that pre-installed and tailored to what you need lessen the time and space to backup since rom files are skipped w/ backup software.
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Yes jackleung, I saw your custom rom, it is very interesting yet, I really did not dare to do it fearing it your brick me device
And maybe I'm still waiting for more flexibility in the custom roms available?

I didn't know what to choose, cos I am not sure whether you were actually asking about the ROMs or the whole process of installing hardspl and another ROM (your first post). I checked stock ROM at the end, because that is what I use, but I had to flash my German Xperia with english ROM.

Yep, that was a right choice.

I'm still thinking about flashing. With my Trinity I used custom roms mainly because of the limited memory of the device. this isn't a problem with the x1 at all. I can run all kinds of programs simultaneously without getting any speeding problems. So I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to flash ...

You dont get any lag at all?
Lucky you, I still get slow downs with certain things. :|

well, it depends on the program. but slowdowns like on my trinity are gone. maybe it has something todo with the expectations one has in the device ...

cooked roms here on xda are far way better than original stock roms.

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Custom ROM Questions

I have had my HD2 for a month now. Been running the stock 1.48 ROM with all the tweaks and fixes from XDA. Everything works great. The newer 1.66 ROM has just been released in my country (I'm in South Africa, things are a bit behind here), and i was thinking of either flashing the stock or a custom ROM.
I've read on these forums from a fair number of people who claim that cooked ROMS are inherently unstable and suffer from random freezes.
Is there any truth to this. I was running Sakajati's Hyperdragon ROMS on my old Kasier, and they were 100% stable.
Or is the instability a result of multiple ROM flashes without using the MTTY process?
Thanks for your help.
I'd say run the stock 1.66 ROM and see how you get on, it might be fine with a few tweaks. After that, look into custom ROMs if you feel you need one
Hi Eddy.
Thanks for the reply.
I'll give the stock 1.66 a go.
was thinking of changing the original rom
which custom rom should i go for need advice
adamo86 said:
which custom rom should i go for need advice
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it really depends on your needs and deires... the only thing you can do is look through the various ROMs and then choose one that suits you or that you like... if its not what you want then change it...
I have been looking at a lot of ROMS, have not tried any yet.
I think i will probably go with Laurentius Ultimate power. I like the fact that his ROM includes a Radio, and he also does a lot of beta testing before releasing a ROM.
I've just flashed stock 1.66, will try that for a while. Then go the cooked route.
Duttys HG series are very good, using it at the moment (WinMo 6.5-style as I hate the new new buttons) - link is in my sig for those interested
from my personal experience i can tell you the best custom roms are faster, more stable and also have extra features that make them more fun compared to stock. but for this to happen you need to be careful with your flashing method.there is an excellent thread in the 1st page of the ROM development forum which i recommend you study thoroughly before attempting your first custom flash. also, remember to always flash a stock ROM in between 2 customs (or use mtty) and always hard reset the phone after the 1st boot. roms are also radio sensitive so you might also have to flash different radios to obtain the best combination. perhaps it sounds a little complicated but it's not really and definetely worth to try.
cheers mate and have fun!
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If u r looking for stable rom, try 6.5 rom, not 6.5.x.
6.5.x roms is more finger friendly but contain more bugs than 6.5
Try Miri's rom or Xanny's rom. I used both and satisfied with both
Hi Antaed.
Thanks for reply. I've read all the HSPL and flashing posts. Not too worried about the process.
I agree with what you say, on my tytnII, custom ROM was much faster.
Good to hear you're not have stability problems with the custom ROMS for HD2
Savage-wp said:
Hi Antaed.
Thanks for reply. I've read all the HSPL and flashing posts. Not too worried about the process.
I agree with what you say, on my tytnII, custom ROM was much faster.
Good to hear you're not have stability problems with the custom ROMS for HD2
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glad to help mate. i'm not a flash addict (just yet ) so i tried only roms from the notorious chefs - dutty, laurentius, xannytech, energy, etc. i wasn't disappointed by any of them, all are very good but each is different in its own way. my favorite is artemis (from sternas) because i find it closest to my needs - leo only packages, close to stock, essential addons and of course great, great performance. i recommend you try a few yourself so you can decide which is best for you.

What ROM are you using ? Why?

What official ROM are you using?
Please choose and also say on the thread.
Mention if you're using custom ROM as well.
You be the judge.
I'm using Dutty's HG 1.7
Why? I always revert back to Dutty's ROM after using anyone else's ROM because I find his ROM's to be very stable and its stock-like, which allows me to install mods however I want to.
Quiet honestly, you just have to try out the ROMs for yourself, there are plenty of chefs out there that have different tastes, and one of them is bound to be your choice. Just as an example, NRG's Energy ROMs is completely customized when you flash it, CleanEX ROMs are "clean" (only has necessary programs for the phone to run)....those are just a couple that come out of the top of my head.
Just experiment, and you be the judge, don't let others make the decision for you! It only takes a few minutes to flash a ROM!
Happy flashing!
I'm cooking and using my own rom simply because i can't get
the same enhanced experience with any stock rom out of the box.
Best of all roms and mods/enhancements combined.
artemis v8 - why? because it is simply the best rom on our planet!
the only neg point - it doesn´t have the 576mb ram support.
spoogedemon said:
artemis v8 - why? because it is simply the best rom on our planet!
the only neg point - it doesn´t have the 576mb ram support.
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to some that is a good thing!!!
with stock I had 70MB storage lefter after I did all my installs.
On Duttys HG 1.6 I had 170MB free after the same installs.
AS for free memory i had 172MB free on 1.48 stock.
On HG1.6 I have 300MB free.
I never crunched through 172, let alone 300!!!. But given the 576MB I now have a shorter battery life (but not by much), but also some call quality and stability issues, and internet reliability.
2.09 radio is the best IMO.
p.s. I chose Duttys HG because at the time it was 35554 build with the most stripped out and i was looking to test the build. Now there is tons of choice though.
This thread will be locked soon, especially as it's in the wrong forum for a start!!
But I use my own ROM for the record
EddyOS said:
This thread will be locked soon, especially as it's in the wrong forum for a start!!
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Maybe not. digitalhater does not ask the best
I'm using a cooked rom. L26V3.0 ultimatepower. because i like the skinning, functionality, stability and speed
Should still be moved to general though!
Using Artemis 8.0 SVE, since its the only swedish custom/cooked ROM i can find. Simple as that.
artemis
artemis rom because:
- the rom is very stable and fast, also very close to stock so i can use the customization i want
- i like the philosophy behind the project: high tech rom based on the latest hd2 packages, no tricks and gimmicks, only the real thing
- i like the sternas' work ethic and his attitude toward his "customers"
I'm using my own custom ROM. I've tried several different ones by chefs, but I always return to my own because it has everything I like and my own custom icons.
I'm using AxLor Leo V.9 WWE Lite Edition. I chose this ROM because it's fast, has cool looking icons already cooked into it and it got everything I need.
Clean EX
Because Stable and very good Job for memory !
1.72 so
duttys HG roms - becouse i follow his work on my diamond, and only dutty roms i had installed on diamond longer than 2weeks, now on HD2 use becouse i know how much experience he must have witch rom building...
I also use Dutty's HG 1.7. it is generally very stable ( should i say less bugs) and very close to bare stock rom
ROM = ROMeOS
Why = it an enhanced OS rom with simple, clean & stable specs.
Not the best one but it only takes less than 15 mins to test it & u can flash other rom back
antaed said:
artemis rom because:
- the rom is very stable and fast, also very close to stock so i can use the customization i want
- i like the philosophy behind the project: high tech rom based on the latest hd2 packages, no tricks and gimmicks, only the real thing
- i like the sternas' work ethic and his attitude toward his "customers"
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exactly the same idea as this, cant argue with that.
MIRI,s 23544 V11.
The most up to date ron, exceptionally smooth, stable, fast anx also close to stock but with much better looks.
the best roms for leo?..
simple.. see in my signature
I'm using RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.0 7U_2.06.51.07_Ship and I've just noticed that I have the GPS Photo options in the camera by default. I have no program such as HD 2 Tweaks or BSB Tweaks installed.
It's a clean install of the original ROM and a Task29 has been performed before installing it.
However, it doesn't work...the "Initializing GPS" keeps on loading (didn't tried this outside).
Anyone else has this option by default? Is it a faulty ROM?
I don't think the option should be there however. It's a stock ROM and no tweaks applied so...this is why it's strange. Can anyone confirm?

To flash or not to flash - that is the question

Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David
for me (and quite a few others) the speed jump and stability are massively better than the stock roms our phones came with. However if you are happy with the speed and stability of your phone and you arent particularly intrested in experimenting in your phone then i maybe you shouldnt.
i was thinking what u are thinking a few weeks ago . could not dicide if it would make that bigger differance. but it does.
the 1st rom i tryed was steve's elegancia rom and i found it alot better than stock. more colour , faster, more stable. lots more options.
if i were you, now knowing what i know now i would change the stock rom.
plus its very easy to do .
i was in the same boat, except in the end i had no choice.
My phone was crashing daily and i eventually ran out of phone storage. So i bit the bullet and flashed the energy cht rom. I wont flash again as i now dont need to.
It is quicker, i compared it alongside a friends stock phone who literally has no apps on it at all and mine is faster. It looks waaaaaaaay better, it has much more storage and for me comes with way better options pre-installed such as swype etc.
As JJbdoggg said though if you are happy with what you already got then there probably is no NEED to flash.
as for installing everything again, lots of cooked roms use the autoinstall feature. put your most commonly used cabs into a folder called autoinstall on the sd card, and the rom installs them when it first runs.
As others have mentioned, most think as you are when they are contemplating this or anything for the first time, but id challenge you to find someone on XDA who has started flashing and all of a sudden stopped.
It becomes addictive because you are always searching for a better setup, faster etc and as it becomes easier for you to do as you become more accustomed, why wouldnt you.
Most have purchased the HD2 as its a tweakers phone, great in standard form but with so much variety in ROMS these days, your litterally a few clicks away of never looking back.
Once you start you wont be able to stop There are just so many varieties, saves you alot of hassles in terms of installing everything via CAB's as its cooked in and there are always newer updates coming out with so many tweaks for the better.
Hi
I find that if you were to flash a custom rom based around wm 6.5, the main improvements would be the updated base os and cooked apps. This can bring added stability and speed, and of course the htc base updates also bring new divers, but there is no sure and fast way to rate this with so many different apps around.
For me the biggest improvement over stock roms is the ability to use a rom based around 6.5.x which in my opinion is far more user friendly than 6.5. All of my apps work great with 6.5.x and is far more finger friendly. Come on HTC give us a official 6.5.x update!!
dso371 said:
Hi chefs and gourmets,
I'd appreciate a totally frank answer to a simple question.
I have the stock WWE 1.66 ROM. I don't have major problems, just occasional hangs/freezes caused by bad apps, and I have to clean the RAM quite a bit when I have several apps running. But generally, the phone is stable and fast enough.
So, if I flashed a cooked ROM - say the Co0kie Energy ROM, which is very popular - would I notice such a difference in speed and stability that it'd be worth the day it would take me (a newbie) to flash and reinstall all my apps?
For a small, not really noticeable difference, I can't see the point. But for a 'new phone' experience, a huge jump in speed and stability, I guess I might give it a go.
I know it's hard to generalize, but if possible I'd like a rough idea of whether it's worth it.
Thanks,
David
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Do eet...do eet now!
Seriously, flashing a GOOD rom will make your phone like new. That flash comes with updated software packages, optimized Winmo settings, etc.
Best of luck and happy flashing!
flash it! it always helps, as most custom roms are way better than stock roms!
i've flashed my first custom ROM on my TD2 in september 2009 after using stock ROM for about 2 or 3 weeks... i've tested mostly all available ROMs out there.
then i've bought my HD2 and even did not start it once in delivery condition! i've put in the battery, start bootloader, flash hspl and agian started to test available ROMs for HD2
for me windows mobile is not a platform for use out of the box! but it's my favorite platform due to the possibilities of customisation
I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...
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I think I'll try other ROMs (than stock) when my warranty has expired. When I read about the hardware problems some people are having with their HD2 I think the risk of losing warranty when those hardware problems occur is too big right now.
Having said that... some of the hardware problems may turn out to be software problems and you could avoid these by using a different ROM...
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(assuming you have a regular leo)
dont forget the warranty need only be invalid for ten minutes. You dont have to leave hspl installed once the rom is flashed.
install hspl2 - choose 2.08.hspl
install cooked rom
run hspl2 again - choose 1.66.0000 - thats it, hspl is gone.
thats it, you have a cooked rom, and a valid spl. They wont refuse you for the cooked rom, only if you try sending it back with hspl still installed.
Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?
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Ok, thanks. But are you sure they will accept a cooked ROM... even if you remove hspl? I guess the hspl is only to give the ROM a specific number then?
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no one has reported having it refused except when hspl is installed.
in theory you can make a stock rom look like a cooked rom just using cabs, (in theory, in practice it would be pretty tough) whereas hspl specifically violates the terms of use.
not sure what your last sentence means. hspl simply bypasses region and provider lock checks so the rom will install. once it is installed it doesn't need to be a hacked spl.
Thanks for explaining. I didn't know what exactly hspl does apart from allowing to flash different ROMs (although I used it for someone else's device to flash to a different language just following the instructions on the "how to flash"-topic ).
so what is a good rom
Hi
So what is a good rom
how does one instal it
how do I prepare such an installation
where to find the download of a good rom
thanks
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it's definitly worth it, even if it takes you some time to restore everything to the way it was befor! In case you become addicted to flashing you'll find a way to easily restore everything each time your flash.
I would never go back to any Stock ROM, only to send my phone back to be repaired!
Just follow the flash guides, it's really easy and takes like 10 minutes (maybe longer the first time because you try to avoid mistakes):
remove SIM and SD cards (!), do a task29, flash radio (optional!), flash ROM, hard-reset, let the phone set up, a second hard-reset, plug-in SIM and SD cards again, restore, done.
Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.
hagba said:
Sooner or later we shall all flash the WP7 ROM on our HD2's,so why not start now.
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sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?
samsamuel said:
sooner or later you will all kneel before my magnificence, why not start now?
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Sure,since there is life after death why not start living now.

Reinstallation question

Hi!
I have the strangest question
My phone is reaaallly slow, so I figured I'd do a hard reset and reinstall everything.
My question is, what should I do
Basically I just want the latest version of windows mobile and HD2 updates. To get it really up to date
So can you give me any recommendations on what exactly I should update?
Thanks
The easiest way is probably to flash a custom rom..... one of the newer ones.
Should contain all the freshest updatey goodness and give the speed your looking for.......
Best thing to do is work out which apps you liked and what worked and do a hard reset back to factory spec and only install the apps you like...
After getting the phone most of us install every app that comes along, settling for a few that are essential... Hard resetting and fresh installs will help greatly...
Only go a custom rom if you really know what you are doing and only if you are dedicated to try several to find one that suits you...
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After getting the phone most of us install every app that comes along, settling for a few that are essential... Hard resetting and fresh installs will help greatly...
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I know I used to do so with my old telephone (TYTN II), but recently I spoke with a friend of mine (he has a HD2 too). He's really into computers etc, and he has the latest roms and everything. He told me that his phone is A LOT faster now.
The only thing is: I have no idea where to start. Just download the latest windows mobile? or should I download the latest HTC HD2 rom? Or both? In what order? Any other updates?
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Only go a custom rom if you really know what you are doing and only if you are dedicated to try several to find one that suits you...
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I guess i'm lucky then. i settled on the first one i tried but i did have a very lenghtly read of the forums before i picked one to install
pietme said:
I know I used to do so with my old telephone (TYTN II), but recently I spoke with a friend of mine (he has a HD2 too). He's really into computers etc, and he has the latest roms and everything. He told me that his phone is A LOT faster now.
The only thing is: I have no idea where to start. Just download the latest windows mobile? or should I download the latest HTC HD2 rom? Or both? In what order? Any other updates?
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Before i went down the custom rom route i did modify a stock 1.66 rom so i can make a comparison here between as shipped stock, modded stock and custom 6.5.5. I can tell you that 6.5.5 is miles better, faster and if you get a custom rom with a newer version of sense that's even better.
Flashing custom roms has been covered so many times many people are bored of replying but i'll see what i can do in one post.
First you need a copy of HSPL3. Search for it, it will turn up. Don't ask how to install it. All you need to do is run the exe in the file you download.
Then you have a choice. You can either install and updated radio rom (will possibly improve signal and battery life but to find the best one for you and your area may take a couple of flashes and some testing) or just skip straight to the main event. I recommend that all new rom flashers use Energy 23569 standard sense 2.5 because it's fast, pretty lightweight and very close to a HTC stock rom in looks which makes it pretty easy to use. To install follow the instructions in the first couple of posts of the energy rom thread.
I also recommend that you have a look at leocpuspeed V4 and chainfire's 3D driver patch v2 (search for those). Once configured they will greatly improve the performance of the device running any rom you install and it's well worth it.
if you dont wanna go custom rom, i guess you could check see if you have all the latest updates from the HTC site, take it from there, only install apps to the device that need to be on the device such as tweaking apps and install everything else on the sd card, and get your self clean ram or bsb ram sweeper, will reclaim the ram for you from the programs you thought you may have closed but didnt really close.

[Q] Which WM6.5 Rom most stabil & best ?

Hello,
I want to ask which one WM6.5 Rom most stabil & best ?
Because i want to upgrade from WM6.1 to WM6.5
How to make 2 OS (operating system) in my PDA.
I want to use WM6.5 & Android?
How to install use 2 OS.
There is no best ROM. If you ask 5 people, you get 5 different answers.
If you don't understand the basic tasks needed, you better leave flashing to someone else...
The only way for you: READ THE STICKY POSTS and the FAQs in the WIKI.
There is a specific reason they were written: Noobs like you.
Mods: Please lock this noob/nonsense thread
This one!
I have used different ROM's. I have used Dutty's, Miri's, Energy ROMS. Both WM 6.5 builds 21..., 23..., 28...
But I wanted speed and much memory left.
So the ROM I am using now, as you can see in my signature, is the best for me.
After a soft reset, there is 150 MB RAM memory. With Energy ROM 23... I only had 70 MB RAM.
The battery goes for days and I am a heavy user.
This is a very clean ROM without Manila, so you have to install everything yourself.
Glad to be of help...
in the touch hd rom development section you will find a variety of roms by different chefs and every one of those tries to make a rom, that is fast and stable and most of all, to their taste of style and features. rom threads are marked as [ROM| or [RELEASE| and for most, you will find the release date, rom language and version and manila version in the thread's title, which will give you a brief idea, which roms are not for you, e.g. if you want an english rom, ignore the NLD and PTG roms. and have a look at the screenshots in the threads to find one style, you could live with every day. there is no point in flashing a rom that is fast, stable and has a lot of features, when it is hideous and you can't stand looking at it.
in the end you will find maybe 3 roms, you like and you can simply give them a try. remember to back up your pim data, with pimbackup or outlook or ms myphone, because flashing requires a hard reset and you will lose all information stored on the phone. and a word of advice:
you will not find a rom that is as fast or even faster than the stock rom, they are all slow, but they give you more features and more eye candy, which kinda makes it worth a try.
by the way, i am using cloudy's v0.6 wm6.1 with sense 2.5, with a good sense version, the wm behind it does not really matter.
for instructions on how to flash a rom, have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
for android as a 2nd OS, have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732362
i also recommended cloudy rom, flash the latest version since it release till now, few week past, never hang even on heavy use.
Think this thread has been kept open long enough. Everyone has different tastes, like & dislikes so the perfect rom does not exist. You've been given a few pointers above
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