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Which is the best internet browser in your opinion? Obviously IE sucks. Opera is good but not free..
I think IE is pretty good with PIEplus.
Opera made it impossible to bring my TyTN back from standby and I couldn't scroll up/down using the scrollwheel on my bluetooth mouse, so that (crappy) program had to go...
Try Opera Mini. It is free and I find it great.
Can't be answered in one word. If you can put up with the (comparatively) weak rendering / JavaScript engine of PIE, then, PIEPlus 2.1+. Otherwise, Opera Mobile 8.6.
Please do check out my articles on Web browsers ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&cat=61 ): you'll find EVERYTHING you need there.
I'm using NetFront as my default browser. It's superb!!!
Just try it out and find out yourself. Cheers!
thnx guys. I am not sure though if any of these browsers play flash etc. Anyways I'll try and see
Moskus said:
I think IE is pretty good with PIEplus.
Opera made it impossible to bring my TyTN back from standby and I couldn't scroll up/down using the scrollwheel on my bluetooth mouse, so that (crappy) program had to go...
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Wait, how did Opera make the TyTN impossible to bring out of standby? The only thing I don't like about Opera is that the back button is so small! And I have to pull out the stylus to go back; unless I'm retarded and there is a way.
darkjedi said:
Wait, how did Opera make the TyTN impossible to bring out of standby? The only thing I don't like about Opera is that the back button is so small! And I have to pull out the stylus to go back; unless I'm retarded and there is a way.
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You can also use the TyTN's thumbboard to control this - I've also elaborated on how this should be configured in the Opera .ini files. (Unfortunately, no hardware buttons yet - hope they implement this some time.)
I prefer using IE and Opera. I have tried Netfront few times, but it just doesn't work. Just exits itself upon start up, so no idea how Netfront even looks alike.
I've noticed that some pages works better with IE and others with Opera, so that's why I use two different browsers. However, there are few pages where neither of my browsers work.
Wiper said:
I prefer using IE and Opera. I have tried Netfront few times, but it just doesn't work. Just exits itself upon start up, so no idea how Netfront even looks alike.
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You don't lose much - the Opera Mobile + PIE + PIEPlus 2.2 + Macromedia Flash + Creme JVM is a much better combo.
I've noticed that some pages works better with IE and others with Opera, so that's why I use two different browsers. However, there are few pages where neither of my browsers work.
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Could you please provide some URL's? I'll file in a bug report for Microsoft after some research.
I find PIE and PIEPlus 2.2 to be the best lightweight, overall combination that enables tabbed browsing.
I also tried the tabbed browser feature from PocketPlus, which I personally didn't care for (I like being able to see the "tabs").
I've found NetFront to be a bit too resource intensive, but I give the gang from Japan an "A for effort" on a full-featured app!
I use PIE and MultiIE at the moment. Not a bad combo, but won't render certain websites properly - in particular some website discussion forums.
I've tried Opera and recently Netfront 3.3. Opera is a bit poor and resource intensive, and Netfront was just unusable for me - very slow to download websites, if at all. Might give PIEPlus 2.2 a go tonight.
g00nerz said:
I use PIE and MultiIE at the moment. Not a bad combo, but won't render certain websites properly - in particular some website discussion forums.
I've tried Opera and recently Netfront 3.3. Opera is a bit poor and resource intensive, and Netfront was just unusable for me - very slow to download websites, if at all. Might give PIEPlus 2.2 a go tonight.
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Yup, PIEPlus 2.2 is certainly worth it - it's better than the current version of MultiIE. See http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1170&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for a complete comparison & review.
You might want to check out minimo (Mini Firefox) as well.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
PPCNUT said:
Try Opera Mini. It is free and I find it great.
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How did you stop the warning message: 'This program is trying to access the internet and is not from a trusted source etc.....' everytime you enter a url to go to?
Cheers
I not to sure it only asks when I start the program and I just say yes allow it to access the internet and it is fine.
padlad said:
How did you stop the warning message: 'This program is trying to access the internet and is not from a trusted source etc.....' everytime you enter a url to go to?
Cheers
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Are you using it with the built-in Intent Midlet Manager or with J9 6.1? In both cases, just answer Yes once and it won't ask any more.
Anyone know if any of these browser options mentioned support left-handed scrolling bar?
Also, on a different note, i am using regular PIE, i have had trouble logging in to some sites, anad then staying logged in. Ex: Howard forums i keep logging in and it keeps telling me i am not logged in. I'd written a message three times before i gave up in frustration!
Menneisyys said:
You don't lose much - the Opera Mobile + PIE + PIEPlus 2.2 + Macromedia Flash + Creme JVM is a much better combo.
Could you please provide some URL's? I'll file in a bug report for Microsoft after some research.
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Here is one :
http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/auc/advanced_search/0,5066,___,00.html?empty=1
Select retrieve saved searches. Up pops a box to fill in with a login you can create. I am unable to enter this on PIE or indeed opera which starts to grind really badly!
popsi said:
You might want to check out minimo (Mini Firefox) as well.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
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OMG!
From the website:
What is Minimo?
The Minimo has been focused on code-size and runtime footprint reduction...
From the install screen:
Instalation space needed - 8300 bytes (8.3 megs)
What isn't considered a small footprint?
Hello,
Today was released to the public Opera Mini v4.1
You can download it here, or here for the signed versions.
One of the new features of this version is Direct address input, that makes a lot easier to input any web address.
But I'm having a trouble with it.
I'm using the latest Esmertec Jbed, build 20080222.3.1, and Opera Mini (all versions) runs in full screen without up and down bar. And without that I can't activate the keyboard...
Does anyone knows how to prevent Opera Mini to lauch in fullscreen??
By the way, here's the latest Esmertec Jbed version
Yeah, the best browser for low traffic, i`m using it on my MPx200
wow amazing we can actually download and upload files through opera mini now.
cheers does anyone know how to stop the anoying "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar)?? I tried all the signed Midlett installs, but none of them worked, just got a error saying "Midlet no signed". Ended up installing Opera Mini unsigned. (Using TAO Java)
Cheers,
mugglesquop said:
cheers does anyone know how to stop the anoying "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar)?? I tried all the signed Midlett installs, but none of them worked, just got a error saying "Midlet no signed". Ended up installing Opera Mini unsigned. (Using TAO Java)
Cheers,
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Try with Esmertec Java
"Opera claims the new version is 50% faster than Opera Mini 4.0"
can anyone confirm this ? if this is true this alone would make it worth upgrading.
also I have my Opera Mini set up as default browser thru that hack that's going around. if I upgrade do I have to do that over ? And will I lose my bookmarks and everything ?
thanks for the help !
4.1 is supposed to handle downloads now too! About time...
Yup that is very true noellenchris, and it works very good on my S710 using latest esmertec jbed!!!
PLESTIUC said:
"Opera claims the new version is 50% faster than Opera Mini 4.0"
can anyone confirm this ? if this is true this alone would make it worth upgrading.
also I have my Opera Mini set up as default browser thru that hack that's going around. if I upgrade do I have to do that over ? And will I lose my bookmarks and everything ?
thanks for the help !
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I thought I read somewhere that opera 4.1 is ".. UP to 50% faster than 4.0 ..." in the Kaiser Software section".
If you install 4.1, you have to redo your bookmarks, speed dials, rss feeds, etc. To me, it's worth it. I can see the speed increase in page rendering and the auto completion for a web address is a nice time saving feature as well. There is a minor bug though ... you can't backspace when typing an web address. You have to 'insert symbol' in the drop down box to edit the web address. I uninstalled 4.0 for 4.1. But you can install 4.1 and still keep 4.0 if you wanted to since these are two diferent versions of the same app.
robosiris said:
I thought I read somewhere that opera 4.1 is ".. UP to 50% faster than 4.0 ..." in the Kaiser Software section".
If you install 4.1, you have to redo your bookmarks, speed dials, rss feeds, etc. To me, it's worth it. I can see the speed increase in page rendering and the auto completion for a web address is a nice time saving feature as well. There is a minor bug though ... you can't backspace when typing an web address. You have to 'insert symbol' in the drop down box to edit the web address. I uninstalled 4.0 for 4.1. But you can install 4.1 and still keep 4.0 if you wanted to since these are two diferent versions of the same app.
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very informative. thank you.
onesolo said:
Hello,
Today was released to the public Opera Mini v4.1
You can download it here, or here for the signed versions.
One of the new features of this version is Direct address input, that makes a lot easier to input any web address.
But I'm having a trouble with it.
I'm using the latest Esmertec Jbed, build 20080222.3.1, and Opera Mini (all versions) runs in full screen without up and down bar. And without that I can't activate the keyboard...
Does anyone knows how to prevent Opera Mini to lauch in fullscreen??
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I am having the same problem
can't access my on screen keyboard can anyone help?
PPC version
Is there an actual PPC version?
Or does it only work with JAVA??
I see all downloads there is .jar .jad and blackberry versions
Any info?
Thought it was always a JAVA application, would love to see a native PPC version though.
chrisd1a1 said:
I am having the same problem
can't access my on screen keyboard can anyone help?
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menu->tools->settings then uncheck Direct address input will allow the on screen keyboard to work.
chrisd1a1 said:
I am having the same problem
can't access my on screen keyboard can anyone help?
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Try to in settings uncheck 'Direct address input' options.
mugglesquop said:
cheers does anyone know how to stop the anoying "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar)?? I tried all the signed Midlett installs, but none of them worked, just got a error saying "Midlet no signed". Ended up installing Opera Mini unsigned. (Using TAO Java)
Cheers,
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Hmm, I'm using the multi-signed version and no longer asks "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar) bla bla talk...
Maybe it's because you are using TAO Java. Try to use Esmertec Jbed, it's the best virtual machine...
onesolo said:
Hmm, I'm using the multi-signed version and no longer asks "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar) bla bla talk...
Maybe it's because you are using TAO Java. Try to use Esmertec Jbed, it's the best virtual machine...
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Same here no problems with Esmertec Jbed. Lovin OperaMini even more..!
Chris
You just didn't get the point....
minz215 said:
menu->tools->settings then uncheck Direct address input will allow the on screen keyboard to work.
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yeah, we all know that, but that's not what we want. We want Direct address input enable and to be able to use the soft keyboard (for example on my Prophet). And because Opera mini stays in Fullscreen, due to the upper and lower bars, we can't acess the soft keyboard. Get it??
By the way, my father has an Sony Ericsson K800i, I tested a few minutes ago, and the version of Operamini for that mobile has an option to enable/disable the fullscreen. Damn it!!
minz215 said:
menu->tools->settings then uncheck Direct address input will allow the on screen keyboard to work.
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cheers for that, can at least add my bookmarks
Works like a charm with esmertec jbed. I had some trouble downloading the signed version, since downloading from pocketIE automatically launched the tao midlet manager (which didn't recognize the bertificate btw), so i ended up going to mini.opera.com/beta with firefox with wap plugin installed and grabbing the high memory .jad signed with multiple certificates from there
Having signed version allows to permanently allow access to internet and filesystem.
For the direct address input - it seems to work only with numerical keys (so a sip like phone pad should work). Disabling the direct url input allows to use normal keyboard SIP or hardware keyboard just like in previous version.
Downloading really does work - that's probably the best feature of new opera - no more pocketIE launching needed
Overall, i really like the new version. The only change i would like to see in in is allowing to use hardware keyboard with direct URL entry.
Does anybody know where I have copy my IE Favorites folder, to open them and use them in the Opera?
I hope there is an simple sulution.
There are complicated solutions - like having Opera also on your desktop and copying the bookmarks file to your HD (I hope Opera imports desktop IE bookmarks). Or doing this with the next version of http://link.opera.com/. But the easiest at the moment is to just gather your links in a html file, and setting it in any browser you wish to use as default start page. So you can use PIE, Opera...and soon Firefox Mobile - without being locked into each browsers bookmark solutions.
Lucas0511 said:
But the easiest at the moment is to just gather your links in a html file, and setting it in any browser you wish to use as default start page. So you can use PIE, Opera...and soon Firefox Mobile - without being locked into each browsers bookmark solutions.
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@Lucas0511, THX!
Don't know how I can fix that at the moment because I have made a lot of sub-maps in Favorites, but I will give it a try!
I am using a software which provides me information in the forms of texts and figures. Everytime when I opened figures on my HD, Opera activated itself and took over the role of viewing figures. Subsequently, all the informations including texts and figures must be viewed by the Opera, and crashes frequently occured. I wonder if Opera could be inactivated so to prevent this problem.
Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
Can anyone help?
I think your problem is that Opera is declared to be the standard browser. Maybe changing this would help. As far as I know this is done by changing some registry keys.
Is it possible to change the link in Touchflo 3D on my blackstone from opera to another browser ?
I dream to click on the Internet'tab, and when I tap on Earth's picture :NetFront run instead of Opera.
I couldn't find a way to change the default browser. Does anybody know how to do it?
I remember having to do this on one of my older PDAs. I believe the instructions that I followed were roughly similar to the ones found at this link.
Note that this is actually for Windows Mobile 5, but there's a good chance they will still work. Just make sure you note down all of your original settings before you change anything. And, as always, try at your own risk.
how to inactivate opera
vcytsang said:
I am using a software which provides me information in the forms of texts and figures. Everytime when I opened figures on my HD, Opera activated itself and took over the role of viewing figures. Subsequently, all the informations including texts and figures must be viewed by the Opera, and crashes frequently occured. I wonder if Opera could be inactivated so to prevent this problem.
Any help will be appreciated. Thank you.
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i had the same problem. i was using uptodate medical program. the software is designed to be used with PIE. so what i did was google the regedit. there are a lot of regs to be editted to change from opera to PIE. basically what u could do is open regedit on a pda without opera browser. just change the main .html, .htts etc to pie. hope this helps for a start. but if you still have problem. post a reply and i'll give full regedit amendments. thanks
please e_cam23, i am also a fellow uptodate user and i have the same problem.. using uptodate on the blackstone is a painful experience for me :'( sometimes it works and sometimes opera opens and then crashes and takes me back to the previous uptodate page pleeeeeease help me out i am trying to make IE the default bs i couldn't on my own..
UpToDate
In the latest version(16.3) of UptoDate, crashes occur far less frequently. Try it out and you will feel relieved!
I am not sure where to get it from i got it from a friend on a dvd..
forgot to say that all the method i found for touch pro and diamond and kaiser did not work on my hd.. editing registry values in RAI under shell to iexplore and Pocket ie,, also a file by darkness which tells me unsuccessful installment when i run it :S
In new opera (official release), there is an option default browser inactivation.
It may help you, freinds
change default browser on Touch HD
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Sorry
All,
from my understanding Opera is 'hardcoded' in TF3D, changes in the registry will not have the effect you want. From my knowledge there are two ways to overcome this.
1. use SSMaPa to patch another default browser into Manila.exe (works also for some other applications)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407777
2. use VJBrisk to route the program launch of Opera to your preferred browser
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477519
I hope this helps
Regards
install new version of opera doesnt mater wether on the device memory or the storage card but i did it on the storage and then uninstall it you'll end up with explorer being the default browser for everything and this is the only way that worked for me
It may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499741
Hey xda´s I have a small problem with my manilla 2.5 on my hd2.
I installed opera 10 for looking how it is working and it made itself the default browser on manilla internet tab. Now I uninstalled the opera 10 and now there is internet explorer as default but the opera browser who comes with the stock rom is already on the device and working as usual when I go to "start" and click on "opera". So there is nothing deleted from the browser but how can I make it the default browser in manilla now because I hate the internet explorer!?!
With a registry editor go to: /HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Rai/: DEFBROWSER/1/ and enter the following string: \Windows\OperaL.exe
If it's hard to edit registry for you, you can just navigate to Device\Windows\OperaL.exe or Device\Windows\Opera9.exe (do not really remember which one). When you run it, go to options, it will probably selected(in Advanced tab) that it is already default browser. Uncheck it, click confirmation button(left-bottom). Open the settings again and select it as default browser. Confirm and done!
Just open the original opera, go to settings/advanced and check the box with opera as a default browser
I did the same as you mate. When you get opera 9.7 working again, you may find that multi-touch doesn't work any more. I hope for your sake that it does, cos I needed to hard reset to get everything working again.
No, no problem so far, everything works fine, I also did some softresets and it is still working.
Oh thanks a lot you guys! Everything is working now like a charm
does anyone know how to change the default home oage from the manila internet tab?