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Dropped my Jasjar inside a WC :( Please advice

It happend while I was taking my cloths off for taking a bath
I dropped it inside our WC and my 2GB SD Card was gone far away inside that damn WC and never found it
I tried to pull out the battery but I couldn't pull that damn battery out for 5 min.
Anfter 5 hours drying with a hair dryer I put the battery and other stuff back and there was NO life After pushing the softreset hole some 10-20 times and putting it to charge there was a little life back some blue lines at the screen.
Now after 5 more hours it starts, but after some resets (some times there is only blue lines) and when it starts it freezez very much...
Should I send it for repairing?
Does the worranty covers it? (I bought it from Internet)
Would reflashing help?
Please advice...

tbh, I would have left it to dry normally in a warm place for 24 hrs before even considering to power it up, as (not 100% certain) I think the hairdryer creates static, which could damage the electronics inside, plus, you can't guarantee that it will have dried it out completely, which means, when you started it up, it could have still been damp in the middle and damaged something.
does it look like it has been water damaged? if not, then your best bet would be to not mention that fact, and just say it has suddenly started being funny, not booting up and freezing alot.
I doubt a reflash will fix it, but it is something for nothing, so worth a shot, however long it is.
*edit* if the company won't replace it, you could try your house insurance...

Thanks alot for the reply wytey,
I think there is something damaged, becouse when I soft reset it after freezing there comes a couple of times a light blue screen with blue and white lines...after soft reseting 3-4 times again it loads normaly again but freezez after 5-10 mins again
I was soo happy with my Jasjar >:'(

Your device has been damaged by water.
This is not covered by warranty.
It might not be covered by any insurrance you might have through your service provider.
You may be able to get it covered under home insurrance.

There isn't a case for a wet PDA. But I've read a recent article of getting back a Linksys router that has been soaked wet by rain water. See the real life experience here
http://www.grynx.com/index.php/projects/salvage-your-device-after-liquid-spill/1/
Probably you can do the same?

I dropped my Wizard in the bath, took out the battery and let it dry for about a day or so. Evrything works just fine.. So you should have dry it for over a day or more to be shure no water is left in it

Very timely.
http://www.lifehacker.com/software/hardware/save-your-electronics-from-spilled-liquid-150085.php
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Thanks for replies guys,
Usefull article, but I think it's too late now, I couldn't take out the battery for 5 mins, then how to open the device and clean the components/circute
Can they prove it if I don't mention water?
Home insurrance would be a big lie, but who cares they get money from me every month (what to say to them? stolen? bropped in water?)
Thanks again for your times guys

I may be wrong , but I beleive there is an "indicator" in most modern equipment that shows up if there has been any water damage

anyone who knows how to repair phones and look at pcb boards etc. will KNOW right away that it has been water damaged. Impossible to hide (unless you yourself are also a technician).
I know because I own a phone repair shop and have been doing repairs for a lot of years.
One of the IC may be damaged, so when your device starts to get warm (as you said 5-10 mins) it cannot hold the power.
Just think yourself lucky that it's only an IC and not a CPU.
E-mail me on [email protected] if you need more help and advice

hb328_dtdd said:
anyone who knows how to repair phones and look at pcb boards etc. will KNOW right away that it has been water damaged. Impossible to hide (unless you yourself are also a technician).
I know because I own a phone repair shop and have been doing repairs for a lot of years.
One of the IC may be damaged, so when your device starts to get warm (as you said 5-10 mins) it cannot hold the power.
Just think yourself lucky that it's only an IC and not a CPU.
E-mail me on [email protected] if you need more help and advice
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THanks alot for the info hb328_dtdd
If it's an IC, is it hard to repair it? how much would it cost me?
thanks

I (or whoever you decide to check the device) will have to open the unit up and clean out the residue of water and then do thorough tests first, it may not be an IC problem, even if it is an IC problem it may not actually be broken and will work again after cleaning and sonic waves passed through it.
Depending on which IC is broken and how hard it is to replace it, and also if it has caused any other side effects to the other chips, the repair in theory should not cost too much at all as it does not seem serious (from what I read from your post anyway).
E-mail me with more description of the problem and I will try and give you some tips to get it running, if that fails then you can decide whether to send it away or take it to local engineer to repair.
Hope this helps

the Gadget (Ch 5 UK )show did a piece on stuff getting wet. I htink they all came back to life one way or another but the were left to dry slowly I think for a day or 2. so you could hold out for live in the thing yet?

I hate the fact that Dopod 900 is very slippery, don't you think? I'm looking for a rubber casing like the one for O2 and Ipod.
Dopod 900 enclosure is too slippery, I'm so worry I may drop it too.

I am selling some Pocket PCs and this happened to two of my customers. But the device was an Ipaq 37XX and 38XX.
Both devices I put on a warm place and left there for 4 days. Then after this I powered them up. The Ipaq 37XX had only a bad LCD light, which was flickering sometimes and was not bright. the 38XX worked good again.
Anywasys, you need to check your device and have it cleaned. The biggest problem is the fact that there is so little space between smd mounted chips and the PCB that the water stays in between never drying and makes the metal rust. I had this experience with a cell phone already.
So you can try following:
(1) pay for cleaning and repair
or
(2) try to get it guarantee exchanged, which is also possible as for a pocket pc the technicians normally do not check for water damage. But if you have bad luck, somebody will notice this and you get nothing replaced.

I managed the same thing a while ago with my Xda2, and the symptoms were pretty much the same when it first happened (random lines and 'blotches' across the screen, freezing)..
Without haste, I removed the battery, sd card and mopped up any moisture from inside the battery compartment.. placed it in a warm place in an attempt to evaporate the moisture from the device. I left it for 24 hours before powering the device back up.
It DID work afterwards and I was a bit suprised and relieved at its resilience to liquid.
The important thing is to make sure the board and pins of the chips are not shorted by liquid, if you cannot get to the board, evaporation in a warm place is probably your best bet...Just watch out how you apply heat for the sake of the screen (and possibly the keys on the exec).

I dropped my XDA II into a canal and managed to save it. The problem is the water can't evaporate easily. I took the battery off and put it on a radiator. It took 7 days to finally dry out! It worked ok though.
You probably still have water in yours, so I would recommend putting it on a radiator or somewhere hot and just leaving it. You haven't got anything to lose

After almost 2 days inside the radiator it still has the same freezing/dying problem I thinks something is damaged inside ((( And now I can't find any electronic service in Denmark who can repare it

just because it's dry doesn't mean it fix itself, people often mistake this. Sometimes people get their phones to WORK after it's DRY but little do they know what is really happening inside the phone each time they power it back on and the residue is still there inside the phone lurking in the spaces between the pcb and the chips.
no matter what anyone says, I always tell people the same thing:
YOU MUST GET IT PROFESSIONALLY FIXED

My suggestion and this has never failed me yet.
1. After being dropped in liquid, DO NOT SWITCH ON - This is where most of the real damage will occur. If it is/was switched on remove battery as quickly as possible.
2. Strip down and remove any thing you can do easily, covers, sd card, stylus, sim, battery.
3. Waste a whole aerosol of switch cleaner, squirt it anywhere and everywhere you possibly can, literally fill it up with the stuff so it is pouring out of every hole. Do NOT use WD40, it must be electrical switch cleaner that will leave no residue at all!
4. Allow as much as possible of the switch cleaner to drip out and then allow it to dry, do not force dry with a hair dryer and even a radiator is too harsh. I find airing cupboard where the hot water tank is is the best place.
5. Leave at least 48 hours before putting everything back together and switching on, if it does not work straight away, strip it down again and leave another 24 hours, keep repeating for 7 days.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=27515&criteria=switch cleaner&doy=29m1
Good luck!

Cingular/At&T 8125 Buttons Not Working!

Okay so i have the 8125, out of no where ALL the buttons stopped working. Like sometimes they work, (only if i start mashing all the keyboard letters at once) but most of the time they dont. All the buttons as in up/down/left/right, call, hang up, left/right softkey etc. Anyone have an idea what is going on? I have not dropped it and i have reflashed to a different rom

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Okay so i have the 8125, out of no where ALL the buttons stopped working. Like sometimes they work, (only if i start mashing all the keyboard letters at once) but most of the time they dont. All the buttons as in up/down/left/right, call, hang up, left/right softkey etc. Anyone have an idea what is going on? I have not dropped it and i have reflashed to a different rom
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If they work sometime a then there might be a problem in the ROM you flashed try anyother ROM and then tell us what happens??

yuwannano said:
Like sometimes they work, (only if i start mashing all the keyboard letters at once) but most of the time they dont.
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99% of the time, an intermittent problem is hardware related. The other 1% of the time it's the user's fault.
Have you had high humidity in your region recently? Been carrying your phone in your pants? If so, this can be a serious contributor to computing failure. Humidity is the enemy of electronics, even more than heat. If the answer to one of my questions was "Yes," then you need to go to a department store and buy some closet dehumidifier (they sell it in little tubs). Rip all of the seals off, stash your turned-off phone in it, and put the solid lid back on (or wrap tightly with plastic wrap if it's broken, or won't fit inside completely). Leave overnight in a cool, dry cupboard, or leave it 24 hours for best results.
There's another possibility: connection failure. This is less likely, but if the answers to the humidity/pants questions were both "No," then you may have to consider this...
If you are confident taking the device apart, then it's time. You may have loose connections somewhere, or you may have verdigris (think mold, but for metal) growing on the cable connections. Clean the device thoroughly using isopropyl alcohol (avoid color-dyed alcohols) and clean cotton swabs. A dental pick is a great tool for getting down inside tiny connectors to clean...just wrap it several times in clean tissue (lint-free is best; you can get these at electronics hobby shops). Once you don't see green crud or dirty swirls, you know it's clean. Blow it out with canned air (do NOT blow into it yourself). Wait 24 hours before reassembly.

Screen stopped working, then magically fixed itself

Ok weirdest **** ever just happened. Touch HD was working fine, all day, came home, pulled the phone out and the screen wouldnt respond, coudlnt unlock the screen. Looking at the screen carefully, I could see these "swirly marks", looked like water was underneath the screen, or moisture, and i could move it all around, it was all over the screen in small dots.
I was looking for another phone to put my sim in with no luck. Was just sitting here flashing my HD2 and i thought let me try again with the touch HD, and while booting, i noted the "swirly marks" had disappeared, and sure enough, the screen responded!
Any ideas? maybe i should trade it in while its still working!

i used to work in a phone repair shop and ive seen loads of phones that have been dropped in water and then been fine.
i dropped my old kaiser in a glass of milk and it stopped working, so i took it apart and cleaned it all with a small brush and some alcohol. put it back together and it worked fine.
but on the other hand ive seen phones that have been destroyed by simply keeping it in a pocket.
moisture can build up inside the phone because of humidity and the warmth of the phone and your leg etc...
when the phone dries again sometimes the residue of the evaporated liquid is non conductive and harmless and the phone works normally again.
if the phone is powered (most are on, duh) or the residue is conductive it can sometimes cause temporary malfunctions, that can be fixed by 'washing' the phone like i did with my kaiser, or it might have caused permanent hardware damage. then you have to get new parts for it.
so basically you were lucky. try to keep it out of the sauna
oh yeh, just to be safe check all the features of your phone like gps, wifi, camera, etc... try to keep your phone in less humid or cooler places, like your outside pockets on a jacket, and try to keep it somewhere where it can get cool fresh air

ah cheers for that! good timing too since i just replied to another topic with a similiar problem, maybe they can read this too
Maybe the hot weather had something to do with it, i dunno, it was in my jeans pocket!

Fix dead touch screen?

Today my U8800 seems to have decided not to work. Most of the touch screen is unresponsive, and only patches work. The lower right is completely dead including the soft keys
Any idea on how to fix this?
I had a wee bit of water sitting on the screen for 10min, would that cause it? I just had quite wet hands and used the phone and didn't dry it off. Apart from that, no idea what could have caused it
Assuming I can't get a replacement since I bought it in NZ and now I'm in UK

If the problem was indeed caused by the water, try the following:
Open the backplate, remove the battery, sim & sd card and let it stand for 24h in a dry place (don't use a hair dryer or any similar "clever" ideas; an oven is right out).
You may be lucky and salvage it, assuming the current from the battery isn't strong enough to have caused a short-circuit and that it hasn't touched anything crucial & sensitive. Good luck in any case.

Seem to have fixed my screen issues.... by playing Mario Kart

My S7 (G930F) has had screen issues that are fairly typical to the model. When it gets a bit cold, the bottom three quarters of the screen go dim, then pink streaks start to appear from the bottom as it gets worse.
This can be be fixed to a certain extent by disabling auto-brightness, then turning the brightness down until the screen looks normal again. Once the brightness is even across the whole screen, it can be turned back up again a little. Sometimes rebooting it helps.
It's been happening very regularly, and it's been so bad that if I'm outdoors in daylight, I need to turn the brightness down to the point where it's hard to see the screen. Even at a comfortable room temperature, it's likely to happen if the brightness is up high. The screen is usually going weird in the morning too, when I first pick it up, until it warms up a little.
As I understand it, it's caused by a bad solder joint somewhere on the screen assembly. It gets cold, the solder contracts a little, enough to cause a bad connection.
Anyway, last weekend I was playing Mario Kart Tour online for quite a while, to the point where the phone was really warm in my hands. Now, ever since, I've not had any screen problems at all. I've had auto-brightness turned on the whole time, it's definitely been exposed to low temperatures, down to maybe 5 Celsius. It was cold to the touch this morning, and it was fine. All the conditions where it would usually happen, the screen has been fine, all week, even with the brightness slider all the way up full for extended periods.
I'm guessing what's happened is similar to the crude but effective trick of fixing a faulty PlayStation 3 by putting the motherboard in the oven for a while, or blasting it with a heat gun, except in this case I've baked the phone from the inside.
A relatively graphically demanding game, played online, constantly processing touch and gyroscope input, means that everything that can get hot has got hot. GPU, CPU, radio. The copper heat dissipation pipe inside has spread the heat across the back of the screen assembly, et voila, the bad solder joint has been cooked just enough to make a better connection.
I guess that like baking a PS3 motherboard, it will ultimately be a temporary fix, but it will be interesting to see how long it works for, and if it will work again if the problems start again.

No. You didn't fix anything, you just avoided the problem temporarily. This also happened on my Galaxy S7 and it is due to a partial disconnection of the display flex. Over time, due to thermal expansion and compression the flex' contact becomes loose. When it becomes loose, it disconnects partially when the device cools down because the display and the motherboard contract and get away from each other increasing the distance between the display and the motherboard. If you keep your device hot at all times it will have a reduced lifespan. Don't.
Indeed, you repositioned your flex by heating your phone because it is loose and it sits just right, but at any moment it can come off again.
There is only one permanent fix. You need to take your back panel off and let the device cool to room temperature (important!)
After that, disconnect the display flex completely and then plug it again and push it just tight enough to make a firm contact. Your display should work perfectly now no matter the temperature.
Note that this will remove your IP68 water resistance, but you shouldn't get your phone near water anyways.

My phone has been opened up, all the connectors carefully cleaned with isopropyl alcohol, then firmly pushed back into place.
in fact my phone is made from spare parts. the screen was leftover from a friend's S7, after i replaced their screen for them. they had already had it fixed once while it was under warranty, and the screen problems ultimately started again.
i kept hold of the screen and paired it with a mainboard i had left over from another S7. i wanted to establish if the problem really was the screen assembly, if it was just bad connections, and if it still behaved in the same way with another mainboard.
the problem, in this case, is most definitely the screen assembly. it has displayed exactly the same problems with two different mainboards, after both myself and the warranty repair service had worked on it.
also, if you read what i said properly, you'll see i'm definitely not suggesting keeping it hot all the time as a solution. i'm saying that it got really hot ONCE, for maybe 40 minutes or so, and ever since, it's worked perfectly for the longest period of time i've ever known it to go for without the display going weird. it's been down to 5°c or maybe lower since, i live in rural wales, and it's autumn.

If you read what I said properly, you should know that what you did is just a workaround to keep the connector in the correct position temporarily moving it with thermal expansion, you definitely didn't reflow anything because RoHS solder only starts to soften at near 160°C, far beyond what the Exynos TMU will let anything in the board heat up before tripping and shutting the entire motherboard down.
If the problem persists then try putting a small piece of rolled electrical tape above the display connector to make some extra pressure against the board.

yeah "read what i said again properly" was an unnecessarily dickish choice of words on my part. i attribute that to replying before finishing my coffee
so would you say from experience that the issue where the bottom half/three quarters of the screen goes dull is pretty much always down to the display connector, and a little extra pressure holding it in place will stop it happening again? i have read conflicting reports, with a few attributing it to a bad solder joint in the screen assembly.
i'm not too worried about opening the phone up again, once the original adhesive has been removed and replaced with the third party pre-cut stuff, it's a bit easier to open it up again.

Mr Creosote said:
yeah "read what i said again properly" was an unnecessarily dickish choice of words on my part. i attribute that to replying before finishing my coffee
so would you say from experience that the issue where the bottom half/three quarters of the screen goes dull is pretty much always down to the display connector, and a little extra pressure holding it in place will stop it happening again? i have read conflicting reports, with a few attributing it to a bad solder joint in the screen assembly.
i'm not too worried about opening the phone up again, once the original adhesive has been removed and replaced with the third party pre-cut stuff, it's a bit easier to open it up again.
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Okay, no problem
We all get grumpy without our morning coffee, especially after fixing tens of AOSP build errors and having to restart our 7-hour build.
I had the exact same problem you had, the three bottom quarters of the display blacked out. I am pretty sure it is caused by a weak contact because, from observation alone the phone:
1. the connection restored itself when the phone became hot
2. after cooling down for a while, the display started to fail again
3. by artificially applying a CPU load, the phone heated and the display connector fell back into place connecting the bottom of the display and giving image.
4. the display NEVER flickered when it felt hot to my hands
Also, you mentioned that you exposed your phone to low temperatures so that might cause a cumulative effect over time on a loose display connector, I think they come kinda loose out of the factory or get loose after a few years. I myself opened up my phone with a hair dryer and a few guitar picks, it was hard and I ruined a student credential card but eventually I cooled down the phone so when I remade the contact it would keep itself together on a cold device. Then I detached the connector and voila, it came back to life and confirmed my observation. As a result, I got a free S7 for myself to upgrade from my Huawei P9. The display hasn't failed for me since.
On a second thought, you should probably avoid the electrical tape and use something that will resist higher temperatures without melting or being conductive. Or just avoid a shim altogether. I didn;t need one.
You are pretty much returning the connection to its factory state, keeping it nice and tight for more time.
Good luck, it was quite the learning experience for me and my first time repairing a phone.

I've got some adhesive foam pads that are meant for use inside electronics, I will cut one of those down to size and give it a try if my screen problems reappear.

After a couple of weeks, the screen problems started to reappear. They've never got as bad as they were before, i haven't had to turn the screen brightness down to the point where it was hard to see, but it has been getting worse and more regular. I've just taken the back off my phone, disconnected the screen connector and pushed it firmly back into place, and added a layer of adhesive foam to it. all seems fine at the moment, i will see how it gets on out on a walk in daylight with auto-brightness on.