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Cingular 8525 - Can we disable GPRS/EDGE and use only Wi-Fi ?

Is it possible to setup the 8525 so that it only connects to internet through Wi-Fi and not any of the other options? Based on some threads, it looked like Cingular has disabled this option, but I am not quite sure. Thanks.

The only way I was able to do it was to call Cingular Tech and have them disable the GPRS on their end, now if I go to PIE and the WiFi is off, the GPRS/EDGE Connection pop-up opens, then I get an error message saying the network could not be found and a dismiss icon....
The only way it will connect to IE is through WiFi now.

ringostar said:
Is it possible to setup the 8525 so that it only connects to internet through Wi-Fi and not any of the other options? Based on some threads, it looked like Cingular has disabled this option, but I am not quite sure. Thanks.
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if you go to settings then connection and delete the connection settings for gprs it will not connect and you can use wifi only

however i seem to keep getting gprs not connected error if i do so?

I'm having the same problem. I'm totally green to the high tech world. Heck this is my first attempt at anything greater than using my calculator function in a phone So if someone could walk me through what I need to do to set my phone up so I can connet through wifi i would reaaaally appreciate it.
I had Cingular put me on the no data plan (not even pay per use). In case that makes a difference.
Thanks in advance for the help.

All I did was go in to the connection settings and change the User name and Password. I do not get any error messages stating the network cannot be found. I get a login screen with User/Pass and Domain. I just click cancel and it drops back to IE.
Now I do not have to worry about accidentally connecting to their service.

well,we can very much achieve it -- In the internet settings in connections,select both of them to My ISP,edit it to nowap.cingular.com
Make sure setting is set to Internet,not work!
I did it and I use only wifi all the time!!

The previous solutions are not really workable for me since I don't want to delete my cellular data connection, I just want to be able to turn it on and off as I choose. With Windows Live, I can have a Wifi connection and turn off cellular data in the comm manager screen and it will just open the cellular connection again.
A hack to turn off the "auto connect" for the cellular data would be great. Make it like the BT or WIFI, where I have to go to the comm screen and turn it on. That choice would be great.
Anyhow, I am thinking of making the Work connection as the default, then deleting all work connections. Then when I actually want a cellular data connection, I could manually select it and say connect. I'm not sure if the applications will close it and try the work connection again or not. I will try it and post again, probably tomorrow.
MM

This works wonders:
http://www.benrichards.co.uk/?p=180
ETA: This is what I have been using to deal with gprs autoconnect on my 8525 and it's perfect for my uses. You just start the program and toggle on or off the data connections.

Gprs Disable
It really works thanks for your research

WIFI with out gprs?

I was on the phone with cingular today because I want to upgrade to the cingular 8125. From everything I have read on these forums and some others, it is possible to use the wifi without using gprs in any way. The lady on the phone told me that even if I am using wifi through a free access point, I will still be charged for data usage, or would need a data plan. One of the key reasons I want this phone is for the wifi (my college campus is entirely wireless).
I just wanted to make sure that I will be able to connect to wifi without any charges or a data plan, just as say a laptop with wifi would be able to do.
Thanks in advance

WiFi has nothing to do with your cellular plan. They are either talking rubbish, or you misunderstood?!
(Take your sim out. You will still be able to use wifi - how are they gonna charge you?)

That is what I thought. She either was confused, or just really wanted to sell me a data plan as well.
Thanks

I do not have GPRS and I do not get charged for data using WiFi. You do need to watch out for auto log on by the phone when you have WiFi off. I would suggest you have cingular block all wireless internet access for your phone. I had them do this for all of the phones on my plan, including my 8125. I told them I had kids and did not want a huge bill. They did it with no problem. I know that this has prevented data charges since all of us have indavertently had our phones look for for the internet when we did not want it to. I use my 8125 via WiFi on vaious networks all the time.
Hope this helps.
David

i hate people who sell cell phones, they lie so much

Thanks for your help guys. I just ordered it from cingular. I can't wait until it comes.

Billabond1 said:
I just wanted to make sure that I will be able to connect to wifi without any charges or a data plan, just as say a laptop with wifi would be able to do.
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Correct, you do not have to have a data plan and you will not be charged for WiFi usage... BUT... you have to be careful as the 8125 will switch to GPRS if it loses the WiFi signal by default. Here's a cab that allows you to turn off all data access of various flavors so you can leave WiFi on, but the others off, then you don't have to worry about it switching on you.

. . . or you can just remove the APN from your connection settings. Without an APN your unit cannot establish PDP on the GPRS network, and hence no connection . . .
Start > Settings > Connections > Connections
Edit your connection
Tap Next to the Access Point Screen.
Remove your APN (and note it for future reference) and replace it with XXX (or whatever).
Tap Next and then Finish.
Repeat for any further connections.
Not a viable solution if you need to use GPRS, but if you are never going to use it then it's not a problem.
To recap:
An incorrect Access Point Name will result in no connection, and hence, no charges.

Thanks again. I talked to my dad today, and it turns out that he has medianet disabled through cingular, so it is all good. But thanks a lot for the help.

Use wifi without suscribing to data package?

its been posted before, but i wanted to clarify, so dont yell at me... (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325973)
I dont suscribe to data, but want to use wi fi. so if i use that no data thing, is it possible?
thanks
aurash

at times i would just airplane mode at times and just use wifi, even for calls. So yeah you can do that...

so wifi on the verizon mogul is free and nothing will be charged to me for using it. (I dont have the data plan)

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so wifi on the verizon mogul is free and nothing will be charged to me for using it. (I dont have the data plan)
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If you don't have a data block, you run the risk of of connecting to EvDo and getting charged 'pay as you go'.
But then there was a change to the data plan about a month ago and I hear it is now nearly impossible to NOT have a real data plan.

Originally Posted by worwig
If you don't have a data block, you run the risk of of connecting to EvDo and getting charged 'pay as you go'.
But then there was a change to the data plan about a month ago and I hear it is now nearly impossible to NOT have a real data plan.
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yeah thats what ive heard. It seems like if you want a ppc or smartphone that your have to get the data package to even get the phone. thanks for the quick response.

This is something I banged out for a couple of Sprint users, but it covers the basics of what you have to do for other carriers as well:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180141

I just switched from Qwest to Verizon and got upgraded to the 6800 from the 6700. To get around the data plan you can use the pay as you go just change the dial up number to anything but #777 and you never connect to the network and don't get charged.

I dont have a data plan either. I use the wifi all the time. the main reason I got this phone was for the wifi capability. I am curious how to use it uner flight mode because it never lets me..

Completely disable 3g data connections forever, and still use wifi
This is my first contribution to xda-forums! I'm glad I can help at all when I've benefitted so much... Thanks to all!
NOTE: After the following steps, Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably will want to use Nodata, and NOT the following solution. You just might have to open Nodata and disable the data connection every time you soft-reset.
I was finally able to completely 100% block the 3g data connection on my Verizon XV6800 (aka Mogul aka Titan) was the following three steps:
1. The key culprit is HTC_CM_Guardian.exe in the windows directory. I couldn't edit it or delete it via Total Commander file explorer, but I was able to rename it! This makes the OS unable to find the program when it tries to re-set the Data connection settings.
2. Under Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > "Select which networks are automatically used," hit "Select Networks."
3. Under "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" hit "New...".
4. Enter any name you want (mine's "nodata!") and leave all the other settings blank.
5. To be safe, you may have to delete the Verizon Or "Internet" Connection on the Tasks Tab of Settings > Connections > Connections. Save and exit.
Voila! Wifi, yes; 3g, no! No more nasty billing surprises.
Modaco's Nodata program is awesome, but the problem was that HTC_CM_Guardian.exe re-enabled the data connection every time I reset the phone. Plus, HTC_CM_Guardian.exe would also thwart any effort to block data via the "Connection Settings." By renaming HTC_CM_Guardian.exe and creating a "nodata!" connection that programs auto-connecting to the internet would try to use (and fail), we get three results:
1. Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably won't to use this solution.
2. When you reboot, the OS is unable to mess-up your "Connection Settings", so
3. Unless you have an active wifi connection, programs will try to connect to the Internet using the "nodata!" settings, which, being empty, will fail, exactly as planned.
Hope it helps.

simple solution
It's a lot easier to check the "use dialing rules" box. I had a HTC Touch that I used this on and when I lost that, went to a Mogul. I love the wifi on it! I worked as a ATS rep for Sprint for 5 years and half the time when a windows phone would not connect to vision, it was the checked dialing rules box or a wrong number like the customer's own number instead of the dialing string. I tried just deleting the dialing string but even a soft reset caused the phone to recreate the #777 as well as the phone as modem #777. I hated the phone connecting on it's own, bumping the wrong button in my pocket, and I know this will work every time. EVDO data transfer charges without a plan will cap at $75 now but still why take the chance? If you absolutely have to get on the web and there's no wifi around, break down, call *2 and add a $15 vision plan, do what you need to like find a location with Live search then cancel it the next day. The plan will be prorated from when you added it to when it was cancelled. The only hitch is you have to allow your device to IOTA successfully while in a Sprint service area once to get the data settings in the phone which entails the data transfer again. Ahhh, I'm liking the wifi more and more......
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Data connnection automatically starts

I have O2 unlimited web bolton on my account but for some reason O2 swapped it back to unlimited text bolton. I mange to change it back to unlimited web bolton.
I observed on my bill that everyday there is usage of around 30 to 50 kb of data on my account.
I have connected my HD with WIFI and Data communication is off. But of some reason, Data communication automatically gets on and hence I think it try to do something and everyday their is data usage.
Can anyone tell me how to stop Data communciation started automatically.

You can turn it off using the advanced configuration tool. Just do a search and download it.

I have advance configuration tool. Can you point me to a particular setting

It should be under Data connections.

Thanks, I found it. It is under Menu --->More Settings ---> Connections

EDGE connection ATT

Does anyone using the unlocked T-MO USA HD2 on ATT, experience any problems with the connection. Mine sometimes says it can't connect, and then connects anyway. If anyone is having any other troubles like this, insight would be appreciated.

I guess I will dialogue with a fellow Indiananan. LOL. Anyway yes, you will have connection issues with at&t at times. Whenever I soft reset my phone all connections will be lost and I have to reset all connections again which is a hassle. It doesnt reset all the time, but its definitely annoying when it does. After reboot you have to wait about 15-30 seconds sometimes just for it to connect to edge or manually go into comm manager and select data connection to on. Hope this helps as you didnt explain specific connection issue.

Well thank you, this does explain some things. When I reset, whether it be a soft reset or power up the phone, I usually go into COMM manager and initiate the EDGE connection, but you say that if give a few minutes it will connect automatically? Correct?

Yes it most certainly will. It a hassle because Im paranoid im going to miss a call, etc during the time its trying to initiate with EDGE.

yea bro i was going through the same thing as you, heres the solution erase all the net work connections that you have (tmobile data,Tmobile internet,Tmobile mms etc.) then install the Att media net and mms cab and reset your device , then go back into netwrok connections and choose media net as the main way to connect to the internet using a private network and a non private network (settings>menu>all settings>connections>connections>advanced>select network)

alleyezondisromo said:
yea bro i was going through the same thing as you, heres the solution erase all the net work connections that you have (tmobile data,Tmobile internet,Tmobile mms etc.) then install the Att media net and mms cab and reset your device , then go back into netwrok connections and choose media net as the main way to connect to the internet using a private network and a non private network (settings>menu>all settings>connections>connections>advanced>select network)
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Will doing this make it where it connects to ATT's EDGE connection upon Boot, I'm really sick of doing it everytime I reset the phone?

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Heartbreak said:
Will doing this make it where it connects to ATT's EDGE connection upon Boot, I'm really sick of doing it everytime I reset the phone?
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Yes it will because the phone is automatically connecting to the network.

So far it has worked, I deleted the T-Mo connection option in the connection manager, and it connected to EDGE with in seconds of booting. Do you know of anything that I could do to fix the random disconnects?

Instead of trying to connect to T-Mo's by default, I gotcha. It works perfectly. You just increased my love for this phone exponentially, as that was my only real gripe with this device, and of course no ATT 3G, but that was expected.

Sorry, but why no 3G from AT&T?

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Sorry, but why no 3G from AT&T?
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It is physically impossible with T-Mobile USA HD2, it doesn't support the right 3G bands, if you want 3G on ATT, you will have to get the Telestra HD2.