First of all, you guys doing the development for our devices are simply amazing. By improving the usability of our pda phones you are actually significantly improving the quality of day to day life (at least for me personally). It's a big deal, so thank you for all your work.
I don't post very often, but I lurk every day and generally have no issues to post about, but now one has come about that I need some help with.
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So I just began using Chainfire's WMWifiRouter yesterday for the first time, and it works perfectly for me. To be able to wirelessly tether multiple laptops is an unbelievably useful and cool capability. One of the features built in which is a very welcome one is also causing me a problem.
As you all know (if you've used the program) it is set up to keep the wifi active if you hit the power button and put the device in standby.
My issue is that it seems that the change it makes to keep the wifi active in standby doesn't revert to the default setting when the program is closed. So when I'm not using the program and I am connected to a wifi network in my house, and I press the power button, the battery is still draining very fast. Normally I can keep it in standby all day just waiting for calls to come in to wake it up and the battery will barely go down. But today I put it in standby and try to turn it on a couple hours later and it's completely dead.
It is just my assumption that the problem is caused by what I described because using this program is the only new thing I've begun doing since yesterday before the problem existed. Soft reset doesn't change anything, and the "crash cleanup" option doesn't help.
Can anyone confirm that I am correct in my assumption of the cause of the problem? Or any other ideas of what could be causing it? Just to be clear, I'm using a version that came with my rom (Colonel's 12-28-07 custom rom for the sprint mogul) and it is an older verion, v.081. I would try the newest version, but I couldn't find any details on the website about how much it costs once the trial is over.
Thanks a lot if anyone can help, I'd appreciate any bits of insight even if you're not completely sure.
THANK YOU!
So, no one has any thoughts on this?
It is becoming quite annoying to have to turn off the wifi in the comm manager every time I put the phone into standby just so it's not dead in an hour and a half.
Also, if I leave the wifi on and hit the power button, when I turn it back on the symbol shows the wifi connection still active but when trying to stream a radio station or open a browser it won't connect, and I have to turn off and back on the wifi to get a new working connection.
I'd just like to know if any of the other thousands of wmwifirouter users have the same experience, or just haven't noticed it or what.
Thanks.
Mogulus: Please try my Wifi Profiles -option Wifi Power->Normal Mode in menu.
BINGO!!!
Your program absolutely did the trick, thank you so much.
The only other suggestion I got was to flip off the wifi switch before entering standby and flipping it back on when returning from standby. Well that is simple enough but when you're picking the thing up every few minutes to check a random thing that pops in your head, that extra step gets so annoying.
Again, thanks a lot, you can expect a donation from me.
Thank you!!
Mogulust:
You are welcome
And Your suggestion - added to tasklist
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I'm wondering if the Hermes (8525) has a deep sleep mode? Every night I plug in my 8525 to charge, and every morning I can't wake it up. I have to soft-reset with the stylus. If there is a deep sleep mode, is there a way to disable it? I like to do nightly backups and the backup software won't run if the phone won't wake up.
Thanks!
I have the same problem, but this is not always when I have it in standby for a long time. It's also some times when I don't turn the device off but let it go into standby itself.
I've had the same problem with not being able toi wake it up, but only when it's in standby during the day, never when it's plugged in.
joshnat said:
I'm wondering if the Hermes (8525) has a deep sleep mode? Every night I plug in my 8525 to charge, and every morning I can't wake it up. I have to soft-reset with the stylus. If there is a deep sleep mode, is there a way to disable it? I like to do nightly backups and the backup software won't run if the phone won't wake up.
Thanks!
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I'm finding that my phone won't wake up if it's plugged in either... I always have to soft-reset it to get it back on. Sometimes it takes as little as five minutes to freeze up. If no one has any answers we should compare what software we're running on our phones and see if there's a common problem.
same here sometimes the phone just dosent want to wake up atleast the soft reset works
this is happening to me with the latest cingular rom the one dated 9-21
I'm having the same issues. Applications:
Spb pocket plus
Spb diary 2
Wisbar Advanced 2
I've tried disabling all three and it still ahppens after a hard reset with no software loaded. (Oh, this is an 8525 with the latest cingular rom)
Guys, please use search facility - advanced options if necessary. I think I've lost count of the number of times these issues have come up. A while back I tied together just a few of the solutions folk have discovered - so to save you the hassle here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
Mike
mikechannon said:
Guys, please use search facility - advanced options if necessary. I think I've lost count of the number of times these issues have come up. A while back I tied together just a few of the solutions folk have discovered - so to save you the hassle here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
Mike
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maybe a better search engine will work. many times when i try to find something with the search i get a lot of topics wich have nothing to do with my search criteria.
but thanks for the info, tried it and now we'll wait if it will actualy help.
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maybe a better search engine will work. many times when i try to find something with the search i get a lot of topics wich have nothing to do with my search criteria.
but thanks for the info, tried it and now we'll wait if it will actualy help.
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I do appreciate to some extent what you say about searches. A lot of people (not you perhaps) tend to overlook the "WIKI" that ties together a lot of the more proven stuff.
Hope things work out for you.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks for the posts. I too have searched and have tried every solution offered here. None worked.
What I have running on the phone.
iLauncher
PocketBreeze
pocket weather (suspect this one is the reason but ran the phone for 3 days with it removed and no change.)
PhoneAlarm
Pocket Informant
Spb Finance
PiePlus
Eten phone dialer(suspected this one too so I hard reset left it off and still got the lockups)
Active sync.... Tried the changes listed here did not work.
So I took the high road and did a hard reset 2 days ago and installed nothing and did not sync with any computer. Over the 2 days the darn phone froze as many time as it did with all the above installed....
So that leaves me to speculate that the culprit is cingulars network upgrade. You see in addition to the freezing the phone randomly loses service and jumps back. That I believe is the problem. Cingular turns down sites and up sites for the rollout. Also I believe the phone has difficulty handing off to sites on standby on GSM. So either a 3g rollout will fix it or a solid radio rom, from the upgrade forumn none seem to be the silver bullet yet, are needed to fix the issue.
Thanks for letting me rant!
I had these same problems with my Tytn when I first bought it. These problems disappeared for me after I upgraded my ROM to my current configuration. (see below)
"the fake server trick" worked for me. It seems that I now have less problems with waking up. Thanks mikechannon for your comment. I did not made use of the WIKI, now I know it's there I can find a lot of solvements and tricks for most common problems. Thanks!
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"the fake server trick" worked for me. It seems that I now have less problems with waking up. Thanks mikechannon for your comment. I did not made use of the WIKI, now I know it's there I can find a lot of solvements and tricks for most common problems. Thanks!
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Yep WIKI is often overlooked - everyone should browse it.
Pleased that you have reduced the number of lock-ups
Cheers
Mike
I had the same problem: my Hermes wouldn't wake up from standby in the morning.
And I have a solution that works perfectly well for me: I changed the settings so that on A/C my Hermes never goes into standby mode. It just turnes off the display backlight after three minutes, but keeps running all night. No adverse effects so far.
Oh, and it also helps to flash the latest ROM (see the Wiki)
Cheers
Daniel
Hi all, I've actually been lurking on the forums for about half a week before making my first post and I must say this place is a pleasant place to be a part of.
I'm facing some nitty gritty issues with my HTC Maple that I'm hoping you guys could help me out with.
1. battery life
For some strange reason, the battery life on my phone is so poor. after a full charge, I left it on standby the whole night and in the morning the battery as down to 85%! I had no new mail or messages or anything. the only thing that I used the phone for was as a morning alarm.
2. key lock
This really annoys me. after locking the keys, the screen doesn't black out rightaway and if you so much as roll the trackball a millimeter, the screen will stay well and fully lit. not only that, if the phone manages to make it to a screen blackout, and in your pocket, any of the buttons in the top row (call, home, trackball, back, end call, and the two soft keys) get pressed accidentally in your pocket, the screen will also go to fully lit glory. it's terribly annoying. anyone have a solution to this?
thanks very much in advance for the help.
battery life
concerning your battery life : do you have wifi or bluetooth enabled ? do you have a gps app running in the background ? if not, there is definitly a problem with your battery or your phone. my snap lasts for about 5 days without charge if i don't use bt, wifi or gps.
calebkzh said:
Hi all, I've actually been lurking on the forums for about half a week before making my first post and I must say this place is a pleasant place to be a part of.
I'm facing some nitty gritty issues with my HTC Maple that I'm hoping you guys could help me out with.
1. battery life
For some strange reason, the battery life on my phone is so poor. after a full charge, I left it on standby the whole night and in the morning the battery as down to 85%! I had no new mail or messages or anything. the only thing that I used the phone for was as a morning alarm.
2. key lock
This really annoys me. after locking the keys, the screen doesn't black out rightaway and if you so much as roll the trackball a millimeter, the screen will stay well and fully lit. not only that, if the phone manages to make it to a screen blackout, and in your pocket, any of the buttons in the top row (call, home, trackball, back, end call, and the two soft keys) get pressed accidentally in your pocket, the screen will also go to fully lit glory. it's terribly annoying. anyone have a solution to this?
thanks very much in advance for the help.
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setting your network to 3G will also drain your battery..just use gprs as your primary network, and use 3g if you are really need it.
And weak signal strength will make your phone work hard and this mean your battery will drain so fast too.
How long you have the phone? do you use Official ROM or Cooked ROM? and what version?
Some times doing a battery callibration will help you.
find the post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5248266&postcount=696
And about the keylock, some times if you any active bluetooth or wifi connection it will also prevent the screen to be blackout..
try to install keylock app from http://maniac.fschreiner.de will help you to solve your keylock problem..and remember, always install it on your device..not on your storage card.
Thanks for the replies guys.
raphaelc said:
concerning your battery life : do you have wifi or bluetooth enabled ? do you have a gps app running in the background ? if not, there is definitly a problem with your battery or your phone. my snap lasts for about 5 days without charge if i don't use bt, wifi or gps.
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I have both switched off and I always regularly access my System Processes to end programs running in the background when I don't use them. Most of the time, it's just processes and activesync (I have PUSH email) running.
harunjo said:
setting your network to 3G will also drain your battery..just use gprs as your primary network, and use 3g if you are really need it.
And weak signal strength will make your phone work hard and this mean your battery will drain so fast too.
How long you have the phone? do you use Official ROM or Cooked ROM? and what version?
Some times doing a battery callibration will help you.
And about the keylock, some times if you any active bluetooth or wifi connection it will also prevent the screen to be blackout..
try to install keylock app from ... will help you to solve your keylock problem..and remember, always install it on your device..not on your storage card.
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How do I only use GPRS rather than 3G. I noticed my phone seems to be switching automatically (I see G and H icons on the top of my home screen, not sure what it means).
My workplace is in a location with poor signal, so that may contribute to it. I've had the phone for about a week now, and it's running whatever ROM was loaded onto it from the factory (which should be Winmo 6.1).
Thanks for the pointers!
To switch your network manually to GSM/GPRS..
go to Setting >> Phone >> Band Select>>
for network type: set to "GSM"
for Band type : set to "auto"
to switch your network to 3G/HSDPA/WCDMA.
go to setting >> phone >> band select >>
and set your network to WCDMA
calebkzh said:
How do I only use GPRS rather than 3G. I noticed my phone seems to be switching automatically (I see G and H icons on the top of my home screen, not sure what it means).
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So, I find that when I use a browser or any other data connection software, the data connection stays on after exiting the browser or other data use software. This tends to run my battery down extra fast if I forget to go into the Comm Manager and turn off the data connection manually. Or I'm in a situation where I can't take the extra time.
Question 1: what are other people doing about this?
Question 2: Is there a something like the WiFi switch programs (I'm using AKToggleWiFi) which make turning the data connection on or off something that can be done with a button or shortcut on the today screen?
On Question 2, the main thing I don't like about the Comm Manager are the number of steps involved, and when I turn on the Comm Manager, it takes a few seconds for it to realize that the data connection is on, before I can turn it off.
Thanks in advance
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FB
frankenbike said:
So, I find that when I use a browser or any other data connection software, the data connection stays on after exiting the browser or other data use software. This tends to run my battery down extra fast if I forget to go into the Comm Manager and turn off the data connection manually. Or I'm in a situation where I can't take the extra time.
Question 1: what are other people doing about this?
Question 2: Is there a something like the WiFi switch programs (I'm using AKToggleWiFi) which make turning the data connection on or off something that can be done with a button or shortcut on the today screen?
On Question 2, the main thing I don't like about the Comm Manager are the number of steps involved, and when I turn on the Comm Manager, it takes a few seconds for it to realize that the data connection is on, before I can turn it off.
Thanks in advance
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FB
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Try this:
To disconnect network when idle for 1 min
HKLM\Comm\CommMgr\Planner\Settings\
Delete the following key: "SuspendResume"
add "CacheTime" value of 60
This should disable the connection if its idle for 1 min
hope i helped!!!!
Thank you! That works!. I set it for 30 seconds (BTW, had to use DWord, not string). I didn't delete the old Key, just set it to zero. I may need it for times when I'm doing a chat or something that I can't have it log off during...experimentation to follow.
Why doesn't it come with an option to turn off the data connection instead of burning through the battery after a certain wait period?
frankenbike said:
Thank you! That works!. I set it for 30 seconds (BTW, had to use DWord, not string). I didn't delete the old Key, just set it to zero. I may need it for times when I'm doing a chat or something that I can't have it log off during...experimentation to follow.
Why doesn't it come with an option to turn off the data connection instead of burning through the battery after a certain wait period?
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To be honest I gave up on trying to understand Microsoft's reasoning, there is a number of performance issues that could be resolved easily that they choose not to fix.. They are special like that .. I thought about trying just disabling registry instead of deleting it, Glad that worked for you.
The difference in power use is profound. I think data connection wasn't just happening when I used it, but would go on by itself and stay that way. This is the first time I've seen this much power left in the battery after a whole day. It's still reading 100%, even though I've used the phone a couple of times. In 5 months, that has never happened.
I wish my wife's LG Touch was as open to problem solving as my WinMo phone. I'm pretty sure her phone has a similar problem draining down the battery.
new imagio issues...
Hello,
I am very glad to be returning to a winmo phone, after having been forced to use blackberry for a while. I have used many windows phones in the past, so am sort of familiar with rom flashing and registry edits.
Just got an HTC imagio, and am using it with corporate exchange server, connected through VPN. I have a couple issues that I am hoping someone can help with. When my VPN is enabled, I go through the entire battery in less than 6 hours. When it is disabled, battery lasts for about 2 days. Any ideas about how to make the battery last longer w/ VPN enabled? Would the approach described about disconnecting network when idle help with this?
In any case, I would like to try. Would someone mind please directing me to a registry editor that works on imagio? thanks, and I'd very much appreciate any other ideas!
EDIT:
OMFG...this works PERFECTLY!!! MY BATTERY IS LASTING WAY WAY LONGER, AND I'M STAYING CONNECTED TO VPN!!!
sorry for yelling...I am just so freakin' happy. This forum is great!
Hi All,
in the company I work for we use a range of XDA's for our drivers, the current and most popular one is the HD2, however i have noticed that drivers are able to put the XDA to standby, normally this is a requirement, however for the system we are using it causes major issues and provides the driver a way to cheat the system.
What im looking for it a way to disable the hardware buttons when the device is switched on, i imagine there may be a registry edit, but im not sure and need help as this is becoming a pressing issue.
Thanks
M
Your request is very peculiar, and I seriously doubt that you can achieve something like that, after all completely disabling the hardware buttons can impair seriously the functionality of the device and I don't think there is a pre-set method to do that.
Anyway, I've seen a thread that talked about reassigning the shortpress on power button to something else (and I'm talking about shortpress, not longpress), yet this didn't work on the HD2 when I tested it this morning.
Anyway, if your system is debunked by putting the device in standby, it will also troubled by simply removing the battery. In other words, you can put a strong password to forbid a user from turnning off a pc from the start menu, but you cannot forbid this user from pulling the plug off the mains
Anyway, a very feeble solution could be making so that whatever is that's thrown off by the standby, keeps working even in standby; there's a tweak for wifi that allows wifi radio to stay on during standby, and probably forcing the wifi always on, and tweaking it from bsb to be on even during standby, it will also force the CPU of the device to be on even if you lock the phone by press endkey
Dont really want to give too much away, but our application uses gprs/3g and gps constantly, and by going into standby it loses connection with our servers and gps, thus allowing users to go standby in one area and then turn back on somewhere else but system thinks they are in area 1 until they move to antoher area again. this causes a major issue and headache for me, so what i really need is for the app to remain live when in standby and to keep the data and gps connection live
hope that makes sense
Hi,
These threads may help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6417238
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661472
had a look at those links and the second won looked like a winner, but when hit the HW power button the device still goes off, however i noticed that it kept its gprs connection, but it still lost gps which is one of the main factors. Just need some way to stop the device from turning off, apart from removing the case and then removing the buttons
railto said:
had a look at those links and the second won looked like a winner, but when hit the HW power button the device still goes off, however i noticed that it kept its gprs connection, but it still lost gps which is one of the main factors. Just need some way to stop the device from turning off, apart from removing the case and then removing the buttons
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try this:
Change this with your registery
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Resuming]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
"gpd0:"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Unattended]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
"gpd0:"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Suspend]
"gps0:"=dword:00000001
"gpd0:"=dword:00000001
Normaly the numbers are on "4" - put this on "1" and gps should stay awake even when you put the phone in standby.
It will stay on until a program stops using the gps.
found it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676267
railto said:
had a look at those links and the second won looked like a winner
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It's the first one you should try. Works fine for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6416870&postcount=6
But frankly if they do it on purpose they will no doubt find other ways to do it - so you should rather build in some protection in your software to detect it, like if 2 consecutive positions are at the same place but with more than a certain amount of time apart, it's that they turned the thing off / cut connection on purpose/...
EDIT: wilcovh beat me to it.
those reg edits have been confirmed not to work... at the time being there is no way to have the GPS stay on while in standby, and that's a pity. I am personally interested in this and have researched in the forums, yet no working method was devised (yet). And I would love to be corrected by someone, but all the solutions I found were app specific (as in, app turns off screen without turning off GPS).
So, unless the drivers should have a personal reason to "cheat" the system by turning off the GPS, just instruct them not to press that button
If they just want to turn off the display, you can make it so that they do just that without actually locking the device, by associating, as I did, longpress on send key, with xdashutdown /lightsout command. That will turn off the screen but the phne won't be locked nor put to standby.
the theory of having gps active while on standby is moot and now useless, i need to stop the device going into standby mode period
to my best knowledge you can't really do that; I mean, you can programmatically disable automatica standby in an app by calling a function to reset the idle timer, yet the power button will put the device into standby.
I'm almost positive neither AEbutton plus can remap the power button short press on the HD2, but giving it a try won't hurt that much
railto said:
the theory of having gps active while on standby is moot and now useless, i need to stop the device going into standby mode period
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other approach:
app that wakes up the device after a minute or so? the gps only disconnects for short time.
railto said:
the theory of having gps active while on standby is moot and now useless, i need to stop the device going into standby mode period
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But that's solved already!
The keepAwake app posted earlier, music players keeping playing when pressing the off button, IM clients continue to run and receive messages after pressing the power button (implies both processor running and internet connection active)... in these cases, like any app that does the required system calls to disable standby while it's running, the device won't go to standby.
The only real problem you're facing is that GPS goes off when the power button is pressed, regardless of whether the rest of the device actually goes to standby or not (try running a GPS app while playing music, press power button, music still plays but GPS turns off).
Now we pointed some hints for you - you can try them (the reg edits for GPS apparently work in some cases but not all), but if they don't work then you're alone on that one, no solution is known. And tbh I've never seen any device on which you can disable the power off key, and it's obvious why...
hi
last night my phone was unable to launch sense. after uninstalling most of my programs -- none of them new in the last week--and several soft resets I resorted to a hard reset.
I reinstalled my most critical programs but this time I made sure that I put most of them on the device with only a select few (games, etc) to the card. I charged it all night and have used the phone slightly less then normal but in comparison it is 430pm and i have 76% battery left. I'm usually at 76% at 10am and recharging by 3pm.
the biggest difference is that i actually think my enable/disable data connection is working as intended. I have the wifi set to turn off after 30 sec of inactivity and now when I grab the phone and unlock it the wifi has to reconnect. Minor inconvenience in my book. I'm not sure why it didn't work like that before. the only other thing i haven't done is used the bluetooth today. I'll connect that later and report findings.
thanks
the more I think about it the less I believe it has anything to do with the wifi because i was out of town 3 days last week and didn't use wifi at all--(had it off completely) and I had the same bad battery performance.
If this is your first hard reset since new, then its not such a huge surprise. The first weeks we have a new phone, we are installing/removing/forgetting to remove/incorrectly removing/'uninstalling failed' apps, themes, tweaks left right and center.
Once you get to the first reset, we only reinstal the stuff we know works, and know we want, onto a nice fresh canvas, so any bugs and glitches that have built up are gone.
Plus you know more about running the phone, more aware of when data/wifi is on/off, closing apps, stuff like that, all small things, but which together can make a big difference overall.
samsamuel said:
If this is your first hard reset since new, then its not such a huge surprise. The first weeks we have a new phone, we are installing/removing/forgetting to remove/incorrectly removing/'uninstalling failed' apps, themes, tweaks left right and center.
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I think you got it...that pretty much sums it up. in a weird way, I'm glad I had the problem that forced a reset. although next time I'll remember to backup my opera bookmarks...lol
I have selected 30 seconds time-out as well and something (not sure what) kept trying to connect and actually connected and then 30 secs later disconnected... all that disconnecting ate my battery overnight for 25%.
I simply did this - disabled Tmobile Data and Tmobile Internet - and when I want to use it - I enable it for the time being and then disable it after. WORKS LIKE A CHARM!
Rugged96 said:
although next time I'll remember to backup my opera bookmarks...lol
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and thats why i use opera 9.7, because it uses my synced shortcuts from the PC/activesync(though they only seem to sync TO the phone, not from, sometimes, but i can live with that)
I never could get opera 10 to see them, even though they were there on the phone.
I had exactly the same experience to the letter, i wonder if it has anything to do with the amount of memory left on the internal memory as mine was running pretty slow when sense stopped working.
kupz said:
I had exactly the same experience to the letter, i wonder if it has anything to do with the amount of memory left on the internal memory as mine was running pretty slow when sense stopped working.
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Welcome to the forum...
I think it has something to do with it...combined with a multitude of other issues.
It should be mandatory for everyone to reset after their first 30 days--that's exactly where I'm at.
i guess my luck ran out...today has been less then optimal. about 30% left right now compared to 74% at this point yesterday. usage hasn't changed significantly and i didn't screw with any settings that i can think of.
i did notice that when i wake the phone the wifi is still running unlike yesterday.
i can't figure out why that's different.
Rugged96 said:
i did notice that when i wake the phone the wifi is still running unlike yesterday.
i can't figure out why that's different.
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I figured out what is different and why the wifi stayed on in standby. I changed the very first BsB Tweak for Power Saving Mode. I had the Power Save Mode "ON" all day today and as a result the wifi was on all day too--hence my horrible battery usage. I don't understand how that qualifies as power saving.
I have switched it to Power Save OFF and so far the wifi turns off when the phone is in standby.
fingers crossed for tomorrow....
People most of the time forget that the oscilations on power consumption have to do with the crap mobile networks we have to have our highly sophisticated smartphones on. They are so sophisticated that automatically look for a signal whenever there's none. That 'eats' battery like there's no end! Even when we are not using the HD2 - or have its screen turned off - it is looking for network just in case we switch it back on for a bit of surfing or to download something. In fact, it consumes even more battery when it is looking for a connection than when it is not. Keep that in mind, guys.
Just wanted to say here that my HD2 hasnt been near a mains charger (or any other kind) since 8am YESTERDAY (29th June 2010).
It is 10:14am on 30th June and i still have 56% left.
i thought things were going to improve...but, about half way through the day my wifi stopped shutting off in standby. so here I am with 30% left wondering what's going on.