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Batery??

My mogul has to be recharged half way through the day? Im on it an average/alot but dont surf the net alot and I have installed teh x button so nothing is constantly running (or at least i think it isnt)
could i just hvae a faulty batery or is something goin on that is draining it?

The only things I can think of that are draining the battery are bluetooth being on, wifi being on, and possibly if you have it set up to check your mail very frequently. With wifi and bluetooth on even if you aren't actively using them they drain power cause they are constantly looking for signals. Other than that it should be lasting longer.

How do I change how often it checks my email?

are there any power saving tips? my blue tooh was on and turned it off and it still is draining.

Tregrad said:
are there any power saving tips? my blue tooh was on and turned it off and it still is draining.
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To save power on the Mogul:
1) Turn off the data connection after using it using the comm manager. (Two arrows on top of the screen above the signal strength indicator.)
2) Turn off the bluetooth radio after you are done using it.
3) Turn off the Wi-fi when not using it.
4) Make sure all of your mail accounts are set to manual instead of automatically checking for mail every so often. This will keep your device from opening data connections.
5) Turn down the backlight when the unit is on battery power. I have mine set to the third lowest setting.
6) Set your auto shutdown time to 30s when on battery.
7) Press (don't hold) the power button when you are done using the device.
When I use the device in this way, I can almost get two days of regular use out of my device.
Hope this helps!

Do this!
Tregrad said:
are there any power saving tips? my blue tooh was on and turned it off and it still is draining.
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I'll second the above poster's suggestion of changing your schedule for checking outlook. To do this, go into ActiveSync on the phone, go to the 'Schedule' option and change from 'as they arrive' to 'every 5 minutes' or longer. This will help a lot
Here's another thing you can try. It had HUGE results on mine. You will need to edit the registry. I will suggest getting Total Commander (this is a great file explorer as well as a registry editor, and a text editor. Basically, these keys disable the mogul's ability to manage the power management functions it has built in. changing them to a value of zero will allow it to manage power more effectively.
Before doing this step, I would be typically close to a drained battery by the end of the night, after doing this, I'm still around 60-70%
To get to the registry in Total Commander, go to the topmost level of folders. You'll see an entry with two slashes that looks like this - '\\' Click on this and you'll have three options, FTP, LAN, and Registry. Click Registry.
Go into these places, and change the following keys:
HKLM\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms
- Change the key 'DisablePowerManagement' to 0 (zero)
HKLM\Comm\Irsir1\Parms
- Change the key 'DisablePowerManagement' to 0
HKLM\Comm\PPTP1\Parms
- Change the key 'DisablePowerManagement' to 0
HKLM\Comm\L2TP1\Parms
- Change the key 'DisablePowerManagement' to 0

thanks for both your replies, havent tried it yet but will. is there a "push email" program for the mogul that you guys know of that will allow emails to come through like that so there is no setting for the mail to be checked every so often? it will just come in when its there.

Tregrad said:
thanks for both your replies, havent tried it yet but will. is there a "push email" program for the mogul that you guys know of that will allow emails to come through like that so there is no setting for the mail to be checked every so often? it will just come in when its there.
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well, are you connecting through an exchange server, such as a work email account, or are you trying to sync with something like yahoo,gmail, etc?
if you have outlook at work, then you can set it up with activesync to push it out to you. this can be done on your phone's activesync program menu. then you can go into the schedule option and adjust how often it syncs with the service. many people set it up to 'as they arrive' which maintains a constant data connection, and thus drains more battery. thats why 'every 5 minutes' saves you alot of battery drain. make sense?

Yeah that makes sence. I used to have a black berry and the mails just popped in without having to maintain a constant connection (as far as I know)

WMWifiRouter Automated Registry Hack Issue

First of all, you guys doing the development for our devices are simply amazing. By improving the usability of our pda phones you are actually significantly improving the quality of day to day life (at least for me personally). It's a big deal, so thank you for all your work.
I don't post very often, but I lurk every day and generally have no issues to post about, but now one has come about that I need some help with.
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So I just began using Chainfire's WMWifiRouter yesterday for the first time, and it works perfectly for me. To be able to wirelessly tether multiple laptops is an unbelievably useful and cool capability. One of the features built in which is a very welcome one is also causing me a problem.
As you all know (if you've used the program) it is set up to keep the wifi active if you hit the power button and put the device in standby.
My issue is that it seems that the change it makes to keep the wifi active in standby doesn't revert to the default setting when the program is closed. So when I'm not using the program and I am connected to a wifi network in my house, and I press the power button, the battery is still draining very fast. Normally I can keep it in standby all day just waiting for calls to come in to wake it up and the battery will barely go down. But today I put it in standby and try to turn it on a couple hours later and it's completely dead.
It is just my assumption that the problem is caused by what I described because using this program is the only new thing I've begun doing since yesterday before the problem existed. Soft reset doesn't change anything, and the "crash cleanup" option doesn't help.
Can anyone confirm that I am correct in my assumption of the cause of the problem? Or any other ideas of what could be causing it? Just to be clear, I'm using a version that came with my rom (Colonel's 12-28-07 custom rom for the sprint mogul) and it is an older verion, v.081. I would try the newest version, but I couldn't find any details on the website about how much it costs once the trial is over.
Thanks a lot if anyone can help, I'd appreciate any bits of insight even if you're not completely sure.
THANK YOU!

So, no one has any thoughts on this?
It is becoming quite annoying to have to turn off the wifi in the comm manager every time I put the phone into standby just so it's not dead in an hour and a half.
Also, if I leave the wifi on and hit the power button, when I turn it back on the symbol shows the wifi connection still active but when trying to stream a radio station or open a browser it won't connect, and I have to turn off and back on the wifi to get a new working connection.
I'd just like to know if any of the other thousands of wmwifirouter users have the same experience, or just haven't noticed it or what.
Thanks.

Mogulus: Please try my Wifi Profiles -option Wifi Power->Normal Mode in menu.

BINGO!!!
Your program absolutely did the trick, thank you so much.
The only other suggestion I got was to flip off the wifi switch before entering standby and flipping it back on when returning from standby. Well that is simple enough but when you're picking the thing up every few minutes to check a random thing that pops in your head, that extra step gets so annoying.
Again, thanks a lot, you can expect a donation from me.
Thank you!!

Mogulust:
You are welcome
And Your suggestion - added to tasklist

Push Email and Touch HD

Hello
Im in a dilemma right now. I absolutely love my touch hd so far but am at a crossroads. I need reliable push mail from my gmail account to my mobile... but so far reliability doesnt seem possible. Would appreciate any sort of guidance.
Im trying to have my gmail send all my mail to my thd device as quickly as possible. I cant afford to wait for it to arrive with a lag of say 10 minutes. It has to be as instantaneous as possible.
The problem with THD i find is that when the display is turned off, the data connection is also turned off. So the next sync only occurs when i turn on the display. When display is turned off... no emails. Ive tried tweakHD in an attempt to keep data connections always turned on, but no luck. Im not sure i set it right though.
Can reliable push mail be achieved on my thd? Should i move over to a blackberry device? (considering blackberry storm) Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
ian

Iangohye, the answer is yes...I had this issue for a long time before solved. The long and short of it is, at least for me, it was a power management problem. I needed my exchange mail, but as soon as I put the phone in standby, it would disconnect the data connection, and would not reconnect until I turned the screen back on. What would happen is, while in standby, my data connection would connect and then something would cause it to immediately disconnect. Some power saving feature. Try this first:
1) Go to programs->phone->menu->options. At the bottom of the screen you will see tabs. Tick the "data" tab and see if the box "disable data connections when device enters sleep mode" is checked. This was unchecked for me so clearly not the issue. Some people, for whatever reason, do not have this option. If you do, and it is not checked then see the next step below, if it is checked, uncheck it and see if that solves it for you.
2) To check whether there is a power saving feature within your power management causing the disconnect in standby go to settings->personal->sounds and notifications. Set a sound for data connection established and data connection disconnect. Set your mail to sync in an interval such as 5 minutes. Put your phone in stadnby (screen off). Once the screen is off, you should hear the data disconnect sound. After five minutes you should hear the data connection established sound and then immediately hear the data disconnect sound. If this is the case.....
3) Install Schaps Advaced Config. Tap his "Power Management" option. In the drop down options, disable all of the power management options and set "AC resuming from suspend" and battery resuming from suspend to 60. Soft reset. Establish a data connections, and put the phone in standby. If your data connection stays on, go through each of the power management options in adavanced config and enable or disable each until you find which one is responsible for leaving your data connection active. The reality is, there are only a couple of options there that cause it, but for the sake of confusion, I would go through them all. Also, for your purposes, I'm not sure whether setting AC and Battery resuming from suspend to 60 is necessary, but I do it anyway.
This is what solved it for me and I hope the same for you.

Hi Sean3
thanks for the help, ive done everything you told me to and it seems like its working as i hoped it would so far.
lol saved me the trouble of switching phones

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443125&page=15
Blackberry works great.

Data Disconnects in Sleep

Well it's been an eventful month
Lost old faithful (700wx), bought an 800w just returned it due to keyboard issues, got a treo pro this morning.
Got my pro activated this morning, which seems to be very nice.
But of course things were going too well... lol
I have an IM app that I keep running along with some email apps.
They maintain a connection and notify me about messages.
As soon as the screen turns off, the data cuts out and doesn't kick in again until I turn the phone back on.
I tried Wifi the same thing happens.
Does anyone know how to get around this?
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Another related topic. The programs in question normally run in the background. When I hit the "X" they should keep running in the background like they did on my other two treo's. On this guy when I hit that X on either app it completely exits.
Is this some kind of OS configuration I need to change?
Thanks,
Kenny

Well I figured out the "X"
Still can't get the data connection to stay on though

Well I found diamond tweak that always keeps the connection on so that'll work.

Can you share the reg change plz? I'd like to do the same while slinging wifi

There is a program called "advance configuration tool" that has a setting to keep wifi on while the screen turns off. Download it and give it a try, the setting is kind of hidden, once you install go to the bottom right softkey and seach for it there. I do not remember exactly where it is but you could google it and you will surely find it.

That works with Wifi connection, should works with dataconnection
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
-change (Default) DWORD Dec to 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
-change (Default) DWORD Dec to 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
-change (Default) DWORD Dec to 1

^^ Awesome thanks for posting the individual reg changes!
I don't use Advance Config Tool because it messes with some of my reg changes I made so everytime I open/close ACT it changes some stuff and I have to go back and reset them in the reg...

I have the problem that the device does not check my email account. Do I understand it correctly, that no data sessions are active in sleep mode? No GPRS (or above)?!
What's that for a config? You buy a phone where you can set up your mail account to check every 10 minutes your email account but in 99% of the time the phone is in sleep mode and therefore does not check mails...?!
Please say that's not the reason for my problem...

Would these work to keep the GPS alive when I lock the keyboard. I want to turn on GPSTuner and toss the Treo Pro in my pocket. So far my choices are a) leave it unlocked and risk making an unintended call from the trail or b) locking the device using "keylock" and then the GPS shuts down so the GPS does not record my hike.
Is there a way to keep the GPS alive while Keylock is engaged?

The three registry changes did not keep the GPS active when Keyguard was engaged. Shucks. So again...
Is there any way to keep the GPS alive while Keylock is engaged? Thanks.

dbsoundz said:
I have the problem that the device does not check my email account. Do I understand it correctly, that no data sessions are active in sleep mode? No GPRS (or above)?!
What's that for a config? You buy a phone where you can set up your mail account to check every 10 minutes your email account but in 99% of the time the phone is in sleep mode and therefore does not check mails...?!
Please say that's not the reason for my problem...
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Is this a problem with all treo pro devices?! Also flexmail does not check mails regularly... The programm is also configured not to close while pushing X...
This is really a really big bug... This phone is almost not usable...

I noticed this article regardin setting up an email account:
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/common/article/32429_en.html
Last sentence is:
IMPORTANT: The device power-off timer is reset each time you synchronize. If your sync interval is shorter than the power-off interval, your smartphone doesn't turn off.
If I do understand it correctly that means: power of = no email checking...
this works at any damn phone... such a "feature" is really inappropriate.

dbsoundz said:
I noticed this article regardin setting up an email account:
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/common/article/32429_en.html
Last sentence is:
IMPORTANT: The device power-off timer is reset each time you synchronize. If your sync interval is shorter than the power-off interval, your smartphone doesn't turn off.
If I do understand it correctly that means: power of = no email checking...
this works at any damn phone... such a "feature" is really inappropriate.
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No. Let me give you an example. Let's say your phone is set to blank out in 5 minutes. You set your email sync time to 4 minutes. After 4 minutes, your phone polls for new mail. At the same time, the phone resets the power down timer for another 5 minutes. So, by the phone continually resetting the power off for one minute longer than the mail sync time, it never powers down. And, because of that, drains the battery quicker. They're not telling you this is a "feature". They're warning you that this setup is a battery drainer -- better to lose some automatic mail syncing than lose phone power before the end of the day.

Hello kraski,
I think you mistaken me a little.
Problem is in one sentence summarized: scheduled Mail receiving does not work with Palm Treo unless you make above written steps to prevent the phone from going to standby, (most) other WM phones receive mails while in standby...
-> Where is the point to make such a "feature"? In standby the phone also receives phone calls! And SMS... And such an internet phone has to check mails also in standby, w/o discussion or not?!

Application auto updates don't work - anyone know why?

Getting a bit tired of this now so I'm tempted to try doing something about it, but I'm not sure what.
Non of the auto updates on my phone appear to work correctly and every time I want new data I have to manually tell each program to refresh/update etc. The manual procedures work no problem.
It's really annoying and wastes time having to do that when you should be able to open an app and have everything up to date.
Examples of what I mean are RSS feeds, Weather programs etc. . It puts me off using certain apps.
Is there any common reason for things that might cause this? I'm using an "Energy rom WWE" and am wondering if this might be rom related, although I have a vague recollection that this was also the case on the standard rom as I can remember having to manually update TF3 weather every time I used it, despite setting it to auto.
The phone always has a good GPRS/EDGE connection (my provider has no 3G ), although what I noticed a while ago was that my data connection would sometimes not work so I now have a scheduled automatic reboot every night.
I don't think the problem is related and I've not had connection problems since then, but regardless of this the auto updates never seem to work.
I'd LOVE all this stuff to be updating automatically as it is all set to do, but no idea why it doesn't do this.
Any ideas? Thanks!
Jim

Jim...1)does your data connection stay active in standby? Also 2) Check this registry setting HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMSgEnhancement\Overlay Transition and see if the dword is 0 or 1. If 0 change to 1. It's a long shot that may not make much sense, but worth a try.

Thanks for the suggestion Sean - will check it out.
What exactly is that registry setting for?
And silly question maybe - but how can I tell if it's keeping the connection active if it's in standby?

Hmmm, been in the registry and I'm uncertain about this.
I don't actually seem to have this registry path:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMSgEnhancement\Overlay Transition
Instead it has:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMSgEnhance\
And none of the folders inside it seem to correspond with the overlay transition setting.
On the other hand there is a folder for:
HKLM\Software\HTC\Overlay Transition
This has three REG_DWORD settings (Interval/TotalFrame/WaitTime), and a default that has not been set to anything.
Hope that makes sense?

The registry setting is actually what controls how email fades in and out when you're swiping left or right between emails. Some chefs turn the overlay off which turns the fade transition off and makes swiping between emails almost instant. I use to turn it off, but each time I messed with that reg setting, my data connection would freeze up after or during an auto update. The only way to fix it was a softreset. When I would turn the transition back on, the problem would go away. Why? Not sure. That's why I said checking that reg may make zero sense, but it might be a factor.
To check if your data stays on in standby: establish a data connection and put your phone in standby (screenoff). After a bit, turn the screen back on and see if you still have a small "E" over the signal bars. You can also check the notification manager by pressing the top bar. See if a timer is going and how many hours, minutes and seconds it's been going. Or, and this may be better for testing purposes, go into sounds and notifications, set a sound for data connection established and a sound for data disconnected. Then start a data connection and you should hear the connected sound. Then put the phone in standby you will either hear the data disonnect sound or nothing at all. If you hear nothing at all, then your data is staying alive in stanby.
Edit: oops I didn't see your post above this one. See my response below.

Which Energy Rom version are you using? The second reg settting is what controls the speed of the fade in and out email transition. If you don't have the other setting then my second suggestion is not the problem. So see if your data stays active in stanby. If it disconnects then that would certainly be one good explanation for your apps not updating.

Thanks for such an informative reply - very helpful.
Yes, checked the data connection and it still shows edge there (ove 8 hours worth) so I guess that's not the issue.
The odd thing was that after posting this thread my RSS feeds actually did auto update today! BUT, my weather apps haven't, so it's a fluke I think.
Rom name is Energy ROM WWE 29/07/2009, Protocol 52.64.25.34U, Radio 1.14.25.24