I'm wondering if the Hermes (8525) has a deep sleep mode? Every night I plug in my 8525 to charge, and every morning I can't wake it up. I have to soft-reset with the stylus. If there is a deep sleep mode, is there a way to disable it? I like to do nightly backups and the backup software won't run if the phone won't wake up.
Thanks!
I have the same problem, but this is not always when I have it in standby for a long time. It's also some times when I don't turn the device off but let it go into standby itself.
I've had the same problem with not being able toi wake it up, but only when it's in standby during the day, never when it's plugged in.
joshnat said:
I'm wondering if the Hermes (8525) has a deep sleep mode? Every night I plug in my 8525 to charge, and every morning I can't wake it up. I have to soft-reset with the stylus. If there is a deep sleep mode, is there a way to disable it? I like to do nightly backups and the backup software won't run if the phone won't wake up.
Thanks!
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I'm finding that my phone won't wake up if it's plugged in either... I always have to soft-reset it to get it back on. Sometimes it takes as little as five minutes to freeze up. If no one has any answers we should compare what software we're running on our phones and see if there's a common problem.
same here sometimes the phone just dosent want to wake up atleast the soft reset works
this is happening to me with the latest cingular rom the one dated 9-21
I'm having the same issues. Applications:
Spb pocket plus
Spb diary 2
Wisbar Advanced 2
I've tried disabling all three and it still ahppens after a hard reset with no software loaded. (Oh, this is an 8525 with the latest cingular rom)
Guys, please use search facility - advanced options if necessary. I think I've lost count of the number of times these issues have come up. A while back I tied together just a few of the solutions folk have discovered - so to save you the hassle here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
Mike
mikechannon said:
Guys, please use search facility - advanced options if necessary. I think I've lost count of the number of times these issues have come up. A while back I tied together just a few of the solutions folk have discovered - so to save you the hassle here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
Mike
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maybe a better search engine will work. many times when i try to find something with the search i get a lot of topics wich have nothing to do with my search criteria.
but thanks for the info, tried it and now we'll wait if it will actualy help.
8YEight said:
maybe a better search engine will work. many times when i try to find something with the search i get a lot of topics wich have nothing to do with my search criteria.
but thanks for the info, tried it and now we'll wait if it will actualy help.
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I do appreciate to some extent what you say about searches. A lot of people (not you perhaps) tend to overlook the "WIKI" that ties together a lot of the more proven stuff.
Hope things work out for you.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks for the posts. I too have searched and have tried every solution offered here. None worked.
What I have running on the phone.
iLauncher
PocketBreeze
pocket weather (suspect this one is the reason but ran the phone for 3 days with it removed and no change.)
PhoneAlarm
Pocket Informant
Spb Finance
PiePlus
Eten phone dialer(suspected this one too so I hard reset left it off and still got the lockups)
Active sync.... Tried the changes listed here did not work.
So I took the high road and did a hard reset 2 days ago and installed nothing and did not sync with any computer. Over the 2 days the darn phone froze as many time as it did with all the above installed....
So that leaves me to speculate that the culprit is cingulars network upgrade. You see in addition to the freezing the phone randomly loses service and jumps back. That I believe is the problem. Cingular turns down sites and up sites for the rollout. Also I believe the phone has difficulty handing off to sites on standby on GSM. So either a 3g rollout will fix it or a solid radio rom, from the upgrade forumn none seem to be the silver bullet yet, are needed to fix the issue.
Thanks for letting me rant!
I had these same problems with my Tytn when I first bought it. These problems disappeared for me after I upgraded my ROM to my current configuration. (see below)
"the fake server trick" worked for me. It seems that I now have less problems with waking up. Thanks mikechannon for your comment. I did not made use of the WIKI, now I know it's there I can find a lot of solvements and tricks for most common problems. Thanks!
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"the fake server trick" worked for me. It seems that I now have less problems with waking up. Thanks mikechannon for your comment. I did not made use of the WIKI, now I know it's there I can find a lot of solvements and tricks for most common problems. Thanks!
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Yep WIKI is often overlooked - everyone should browse it.
Pleased that you have reduced the number of lock-ups
Cheers
Mike
I had the same problem: my Hermes wouldn't wake up from standby in the morning.
And I have a solution that works perfectly well for me: I changed the settings so that on A/C my Hermes never goes into standby mode. It just turnes off the display backlight after three minutes, but keeps running all night. No adverse effects so far.
Oh, and it also helps to flash the latest ROM (see the Wiki)
Cheers
Daniel
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My XDA II keeps turning itself on, as if a program is waking it up.
I have checked that no programs are running using the option under Start/Settings/System/Memory.
Is there a way to see what processes are running in the background?
It does this even when stationary on my desk so it's not an accidental button press.
Has anyone else experienced this?
I'd appreciate any suggestions on tracking this down as it has a huge impact on battery life.
Thanks.
yup... mine was caused by Activesync. Make sure you have all the settings set to "Manual".
You can also download "Notification Check" by Scarybearsoftware. It will go through your PDA and look for extra events that don't belong there.
For some time I was getting a calander event for some birthday that didn't even exist!
yep, here too
I notice that it turn on after upgrading from 1.66 to 1.72
I'm not sure that could be for this...
I'll try "Notification Check"...from scarybear software
I had this and it was doing my head in! But using the check notifications did not help. I thought that possibly some of the games I installed to my SD card may have caused the problem.
So I copied everything off the card, and formatted it in the pocketpc (resco explorer), not from a card reader! Then I copied everything back and since then not a single un-intentional turn on.
Cheerio
Howard
Well, it didn't fix it for me either. I'm now testing with the Storage Card removed.
I'll post back if I find anyhting.
Another problem is when your GPRS connection activates itself!! soo annoying.
Taking the storage card out made no difference.
So far, however, with Flight Mode turned on it seems to be fine.
If this is the case then that would be really annoying.
What would be going on with Flight Mode Off to cause the XDA II to wake up?
With the radio off, GPRS is also off (as is BlueTooth and IR).
Is GPRS turning the device on?
Immediately after the device powers itself on, tap the signal meter and see if GPRS is connected.
Do you have a POP3 or IMAP4 Email account set to retreive messages at a regular interval?
Thanks, I'd already checked those.
The radio off was a red herring. It woke me up at 02:06 for no reason that I coulod find, with radio off.
I'd really like to find this before doing a hard reset so that I can fix it again if necessary and posting here will help others.
There's nothing worse than curing a problem and you don't know how.
My feeling is that it is being caused by some program you have loaded . . . or worst case, by a combination of programs. Unfortunately, if that's the case, the most likely way to track down the culprit will be to -
1. Hard-reset your device.
2. Run it for a time with no additional programs installed to make sure the problem is gone.
3. One at a time, install a single additional program and run it that way for a while to see if the problem occurs.
4. Only after proving that the problem does not occur with that configuration do you install another program.
5. If the problem occurs after installing a program - Hard-reset the device again and install only that program - then you know if the program itself is causing the problem or if it is a combination of programs.
This does not necessarily sound like FUN . . . but I can't see a better way to positively identify which program is causing your problem.
HTH
Thanks for that. That is my thinking too.
I'll do that when I've got a few hours to spare and I'll post the results, identifying the offending program.
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I have the same exact problem.
And I did found out that this is some of the program I install.
Example : SPB Pocket Plus (also other Today's plugin)
I did a hard reset, and try with out any program, then ad one program, then two etc..........until I found out that SPB was the one.
unfortunatly I love some of the plugin, but I have to get rid of it, if I don't want my battery to fall off in one day.
Bruxelles5 wrote:
..........until I found out that SPB was the one.
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This is curious, as I have SPB Pocket Plus 2.0 installed, and I have never experienced an unintended/spontaneous turn-on (of my imate anyway ).
try turing battery monitor off in sprite backup
and also turn off the battery bar thing in spb2
that sorted my probs out
Turning on
I use Pocketplus and don't have a turning on problem, except when cradled, in which case it continuously tries to sync, even with everything set to manual.
Don't think Pocketplus is the cukprit.
SMW1
I've got my new Tytn for about a week now.
Today I had a problem:
My device was in sleeping mode, and would not wake-up either when receiving a call or by pressing the 'on' key.
I had to soft reset the device to go back to normal.
I think I remember a similar issue with Universal at first.
Does anyone has an idea on how to fix that problem?
Thanks!
Please search before posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59007
Thanks Pof!
I made a search but I guess I wasn't as half as efficient as you!
Your link answered my question. Thank again!
Actually, I don't think there's a definitive answer yet. Your problem (won't wake up after overnight charging) has been confirmed though and some suspect SPB software as the underlying cause.
I personally suspect a bug in the TyTN's WM5 build that will be fixed with a subsequent ROM update. Powersave mode in the TyTN is a different beast. I've noticed quite a few ideosyncracies with my TyTN when it was in powersave mode.
Sleuth255 said:
I personally suspect a bug in the TyTN's WM5 build that will be fixed with a subsequent ROM update.
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Yes, I totally agree with you. I don't have any SPB soft installed, and this happens quite frequently after overnight charging.
I contacted Spb and reported this issue to them. Here is the answer I got:
please add poutlook.exe, tmail.exe, instmsgr.exe and cprog.exe to the list of Exceptions in Close button options and let us know if it helps.
Feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
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I haven't tried yet. but I will and will report the results here.
Nevertheless, I must say that since I uninstalled Spb Pocket Plus, I didn't have any more problem...
My TyTn does this ocassionally also, however my gut tells me it has to do with a program that contacts or syncs with the internet while the device is in standby.
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My TyTn does this ocassionally also, however my gut tells me it has to do with a program that contacts or syncs with the internet while the device is in standby.
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In my case, I don't have any software that automatically connects to the Internet.
Actually, I have almost no program installed. Spb Pocket plus being my favorite app, I always install it first on any device I get.
That's why it was easy for me to pin down the culprit!
I believe there are two seperate issues that affect the TyTN in powersave mode being discussed here. One of them may indeed be related to SPB Pocket Plus but I'm thinking that only people reporting slowness with this app may be affected. I never had any slowdown with SPB pocket plus and the only powersave glitch I ever experienced was after overnight charging.
hmm, I suspect that you may be right about two issues. I have been experiencing that I posted in http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59774 this thread
I have often found an Activesync process running when my device becomes unuseably slow[/url]
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I have often found an Activesync process running when my device becomes unuseably slow[/url]
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I noticed that Activesync is almost constantly running in the background. Not only with TyTn, but with all HTC devices I previously or currently owned (almost all! :? ).
Since my 1st post, and the uninstalling of Spb Pocket Plus, my TyTn never froze again.
Next to that I tried the overnight charging for 4 days now and didn't experience any problem.
hmm, I wonder what my issues could be because I don't have anything installed at all.
I have the sa like 100thmonkey. No aditional software. But it hangs too. I noticed that always, when an internetconnection is established or a software (I have Internet Explorer opened) uses Internet while I was loading my hermes, it crashes.
Maybe you can find the same reason, that some internetapplication was active before it crashes.
I followed Spb advices related to the Pocket Plus freezing issues (please check my earlier post on this).
l am happy to say that since I didn't have any problem.
So if your TyTn freezes because of Spb Pocket Plus, you must...
Add poutlook.exe, tmail.exe, instmsgr.exe and cprog.exe located in Windows directory to the list of Exceptions in Close button options.
Hope this will help!
Is there a solution
Any body found an solution for this problem? It happens all the time after nightly over charge... I Do not use Spb +
The solution is simple. It work on my CHT9000 well.
The causes for sleeping may be due to;
1) The programe installed in the micro sd card is shown on TODAY screen. (In my case, the agile messenger installed in card but shown in today screen)
2) Any operation of the phone during charging.
I just simple remove the agile messenger from today screen and soft reset before charging. The phoen will wake up with you on next day morning.(Provided that you set the alarm! )
If I leave my Orange SPV3100 on charge overnight (or for longer than about 4--6 hours) it won't wake up from sleep mode. All I do is plug the power (or USB) cable in (I dont turn of the radio or anything) and it does this.
The green light still flashes, but it wont accept SMS, phone calls or anything else.
So there seems to be a real problem?
I wonder what ROM/carrier is on all of these?
I tried searching for the reason/solution but could not find anything.
Basically my device keeps truning on. I read somewhere that it's due to a fault in the radio rom. Does anyone have any knowledge/solution for this?
Thanks
It seems very strange to me, which programs are installed in your phone?
If it's related to radio you can just try to flash the latest radio 1.38.00.11 (ripped by Pof) without losing any of your data to see if this resolves your problem.
pof's Trin_Radio_1.38.00.11_Only_SSPL rip
Thanks
I'll try this later and report back...
Noony said:
Thanks
I'll try this later and report back...
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Do you have Exchange (Push) email? Do you have set email receiving to happen after a certain amount of time?
No, good suggestion but it's not the email settings.
I've put the newer radio rom on and so far no turning on. But it's only been a few hours so far...
Still turns on - oh well !
I have this same problem with my Imate Jam, my phone is set to check email every 15mins and I think thats when it turns itself on. But this must be a bug because it drains the battery so much faster especially it the screen gets random inputs when it is in your pocket constantly.
Another suggestion - do you use Sprite Backup Battery Monitor ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=606
or any other Weatherplugin which is checking every minutes the forecast ?
rdu85 said:
Another suggestion - do you use Sprite Backup Battery Monitor ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=606
or any other Weatherplugin which is checking every minutes the forecast ?
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I have the same turning on issue. On mine, I know it is due to the email that is getting downloaded. Mine doesn't always do it, sometimes if I've been using wifi and turned it off, the phone will connect and check mail without coming out of standby. I haven't been able to track down exactly how to fix it. I do use DeviceLock which locks the screen so that if the phone wakes up for any reason when it is in my pocket or my backpack, buttons don't get pressed by accident.
My Dopod is turning on too and it really pisses me off.
I can be sure at 12:00am it will turn on every time.
I have reduced my power off time to 2min.
Noony said:
I tried searching for the reason/solution but could not find anything.
Basically my device keeps truning on. I read somewhere that it's due to a fault in the radio rom. Does anyone have any knowledge/solution for this?
Thanks
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Before doing anything like flashing a different rom,start by eliminating some things
First remove your sim card and turn off the phone if it turns on by itself then its not network related nor has anything to do with your email settings.
Second try a different simcard and set the network manually to GSM and disable GPRS.
Third remove all programs that you've added(Hard reset if you have to).
Finally and if none of the above work flash a different rom.
I just got AMEO from T mobile which I believe the same as HTC advantage.
despite of being SIM locked by T-mobile, I am experiencing another problem in waking up the device after it goes into sleep mode.
After I left the device idle for few minutes, it turn the whole screen off. (not only the back lit).
I can see the LED for BT/wifi still blinking.
But no matter which button I press, it couldn't be turn on at all.
As final resolve, I have to soft reset the device every time after it sleep!!!
Can some experts here advise me? is it a defective unit? or some other settings are wrong? Do I need to return it to the vendor?
I don't want to keep the device always on by disabling the auto off feature in power setting either.
Does someone have the same problem like me?
Thanks for any advise in advance.
What happens if you put it on the keyboard while "asleep"? Even if it means taking it off there first.
If doing that and pushing the power button fail to turn it on, it's a defective unit.
it's the same problem even i attach it to the keyboard.
a bit funny though, if i press the power button from the side to turn it off. I won't have any problem to turn it on.
but if i leave it to auto off mode, then i can't turn it on until resetting it from the back hole.
can it be improved if I flash to other ROM?
My Ameo does it occasionally - I find that (re)attaching the keyboard tends to bring it out of sleep better than pressing the power button. I get the impression that by pressing the power button, it sometimes gets confused that its still on and tries to turn itself off (even when it is already off). Tends to lead to a reboot every few days though. Waiting (fingers x'd) for WM6 to see if it behaves better.
do you guys have this option
settings>button>lock
try to toggle the checkbox to see if it helps
I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.
I can confirm that it doesn't help my AMEO.
anyway, thank for your thought.
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I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.
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To digital:
can I ask for a favor from you. could you try to make the device auto power off without sim card in.
and see whether u will have the exact problem i have or more frequent it dead...
due to my unit is locked to T mobile network, i still haven't put any sim card in.
Tried it without simcard in but it still turns on ok after the fix. TBH, sounds like you're getting the issue more than me - mine only does it occasionally (once every couple-3days) and as yet, I've not managed to locate a consistent cause. I'll keep my eye on it though with the fix and let you all know how I get on.
the other thing that i can think of out of at the moment is that you are running some prog from the sd card/microdrive in the background so when you try to switch your device on then it does not get started and hence the problem...
try tweaks2k (you can use the trial version)
it has a bunch of settings for this... (just check that it is compatible with ameo first)
install 'screenoff' and assign to one of the button.
it works fine.
have to make work around like this now. no idea why this problem only happen to my AMEO...
anyway, thanks for all of u!
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Does someone have the same problem like me?
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I have a similar problem. My device does not wake up in one case from 10 approximately.
Frequency of occurrence of a problem decreases if to close the phone's program compulsorily.
In other branch to me have told, that the problem can be because of the Active Sink's program. Have allowed advice to disconnect automatic start of this program. But I cannot check up because my program all the same is started if to switch off an option of the automatic device. :-(
hard reset can solve the problem completely. ;-)
I'm pleased to say that the 'button' tweak posted here has worked... So far!
Thanks Gents (and lasses if there are any).
That happened to me too yesterday.
I hard reset it and reinstalled everything to microdrive now. (trying to eliminate the possiblity of compaction thread) Removed SPB Pocket plus, which I've come to be quite suspecious by now. Also removed true VGA. So far I have not got a single freeze yet, touch wood. If it runs okay for a few more weeks with no freezing, will put back true VGA and see how it goes again. Will try to isolate the offending software bit by bit.
Hi,
I've had the same problem with my Advantage
After some weeks of test i have found how to solve the problem on my Advantage. perhaps it's only works on mine but you can try.
i have installed "all" progs on memory and not on microdrive. on microdrive i have only a few exe like wififofum or progs not intend to run when i turn my Athena off.
then no more problem waking up my athena.
I think the problem could be that microdrive cause a time out or thing like this when we wake up the PDA then athena freeze waiting about datas from microdrive.
then for me now it's programs like browsers, sscontact, traylaunchers etc .. => memory
programs like painting tool, etc ... => microdrive and close (kill process) them before sleep mode.
and all is ok now for me. The only freeze in 1 week was Pocket IE freezing (but the reason is pocket IE sucks)
There was actually another point that I forgot to mention concerning the freezing. I found out that the free miniSD card came with the bonus pack was actually faulty. With the pocket mechanic professional benchmark, I managed to see only less than 200kb/s read and write! I did a hard reset, and installed everything on microdrive, and touch wood, I have not got a single reset or freezing yet these two days. I install nothing into memory, as we all know that it takes up to 2 seconds to write a block of data into NOR ROM, which is why we should always shift our directory of IE cookies/history/cache away from the main memory. Since the main memory (NOR ROM) is good for executing program in place but terrible in writing, Microsoft's MikeCal thinks we should not keep any data there. (See this thread: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/03/16/552996.aspx ). I try to keep the memory as free as possible to minimise compaction thread kikcing in. Will see how it goes in the next couple of weeks and take on from there.
I'm happy to confirm that, after a weeks testing, the button 'fix' seems to have resolved the issue! Thanks all.
I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
Attaching USB cable. No change.
Attaching keyboard. No change.
Calling phone. No change.
Soft reset. Starts ok.
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'
However, I suspect ActiveSync.
The unit was attempting to Sync every 5 minutes, while connected with a USB cable. I therefore followed advise (read elsewhere) to create a dummy server to allow an ActiveSync schedule to be created, then deleted.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=246522
This is coincident with the start of the problem.
Regards
Devany said:
I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'
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I had same problem once I enabled Key Lock function.
However, once I disable key lock, it works fine again.
First of all sorry for opening a new thread.....did search but didn´t find anything.....and I usually get annoyed myself by people asking question that have already been answered....
Problem: once in a while - and in no understandable pattern - my HD does not switch to standby after the set timeout (60s for me). Soft-reset does not solve the issue, but it disappears after a while (several times turning the display on/off). Have not changed/installed anything recently. First blamed it on S2U2.....uninstalled and problem seemed to be solved, but only until today - now it´s back in all its glory....
Already compared the - what I think - relevant registry values to my Diamond registry....no suspects there.
And no, there is no video-, audio-, or navigation program running in the background, as the problem manifests itself right after a restart/soft-reset....
Any ideas?
Thanks!!
mine does the same...I've just gotten used to it.
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mine does the same...I've just gotten used to it.
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Hmmm....I don´t want to get used to it, because whenever the device wakes up (missed call, reminder, alert etc.) the display stays on (altough dimmed) using up battery power....
Same problem here with my Diamond.
Any news or ideas on this?
Same for me, and it's a very big problem!
I've read in some of the other posts that it may have to do with the activation of auto-screen lock that is included in the ROM, but this isn't turnd on in my case!
I use my Blackstone professionally, which means I need as much battery power as possible on one charge! At the moment this problem makes the device last for about half a day during work!
If anyone has a fix, I would appreciate hearing about it