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Do O2 and Vodaphone 'Network Lock' their phones

I am hoping to get a wizard as soon as they come out and it looks like O2 and Vodaphone will be first. Do both these carriers lock their phones? I currently have an Orange and a t-mobile account so would prefer to use my existing sims and just use the new account as a means to "spead the payment costs" (I got my jam for free 9 months ago for the price of a £22 p/m contract )
If they do lock their phones does anyway know if the existing unlock methods will work.
On a different note, I much prefer the look of the qtek 9100 to the k-jam - are there any hardware differences apart from the look?
Paul

I'm %90 sure they do... plus as a rule Vodafone butcher the firmware of most phones.
Get either a Imate or Qtek you should find it unlocked as its not a 'branded' phone.
I would suggest that buymobilephones.net is the best place as you can get one of the above with a contract... I am...
Terran

Can I use 3 sim???

Can someone please help me in answering a niggling question I have about the TyTn (Hermes), before I go out and buy one. Firstly has anyone used their machines with a 3 sim?????
I have searched but cant find this being asked or answered anywhere.

yes gprs and utms and regular calls sms/mms are no problem at all.
But the services at three´s portal like music etc dont work 100% :S but i can take that...

closetland said:
yes gprs and utms and regular calls sms/mms are no problem at all.
But the services at three´s portal like music etc dont work 100% :S but i can take that...
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ok cheers for the answer mate, but i notice that your not in the uk and this questions mainly concerned the 3 network here in the uk mate and also the reason why I asked is because I saw this advert for the VPA Compact III, which my understanding was the same machine but he states that it cant be used with 3??? thanks for the quick reply.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VODAFONE-VPA-...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hi Shabba,
I'm sure I put a 3 SIM in mine the other day without a problem, however i've had a few drinks since then and can't fully remember. I'll try mine tomorrow with a 3 SIM but there should be no reason it shouldn't work if it's unlocked.
I'll update you tomorrow.
Gavin.

GavinN said:
Hi Shabba,
I'm sure I put a 3 SIM in mine the other day without a problem, however i've had a few drinks since then and can't fully remember. I'll try mine tomorrow with a 3 SIM but there should be no reason it shouldn't work if it's unlocked.
I'll update you tomorrow.
Gavin.
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Cheers Gav, Please let us all know mate. So why is this guy http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VODAFONE-VPA-...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
stating its not compatible???? totally confused!!!!

Yeah I don't get it either. There should be no reason why the TyTn can't connect to the 3 network as it's either WCDMA for 3 or GSM for O2 (Soon to be Orange) when there is no WCDMA coverage and the TyTN is able to use both. The only thing possibly is the 3 SIM card might be a UICC but I'd be very surprised if this is causing problems as Vodafone D2 and UK both use UICC too (basically a smart card with both USIM and SIM profiles stored).
Maybe it's as Closetland says that some 3 services are unavailable so he just says it doesn't work full stop?
Let me check for you tomorrow. I've got both a SPV M3100 (unlocked) and a T-Mobile Vario II I can try.
Gav.

GavinN said:
Yeah I don't get it either. There should be no reason why the TyTn can't connect to the 3 network as it's either WCDMA for 3 or GSM for O2 (Soon to be Orange) when there is no WCDMA coverage and the TyTN is able to use both. The only thing possibly is the 3 SIM card might be a UICC but I'd be very surprised if this is causing problems as Vodafone D2 and UK both use UICC too (basically a smart card with both USIM and SIM profiles stored).
Maybe it's as Closetland says that some 3 services are unavailable so he just says it doesn't work full stop?
Let me check for you tomorrow. I've got both a SPV M3100 (unlocked) and a T-Mobile Vario II I can try.
Gav.
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Cheers Gav please let us know mate!

Trying to get my damn 3 SIM working - they have all been deactivated!!! Bloody company account departments...
Update soon..
Gav.

UPDATE:
I've got one 3 SIM which does register onto 3 but when i make a call I get the message 'Your service does not allow access to this number' so the call is being setup correctly. This is the exact same behaviour as having the SIM in the original LG phone.
Gav.

Brilliant. Thanks for all your help Gav. Now to look for the best deal around for one of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shabba007 said:
Brilliant. Thanks for all your help Gav. Now to look for the best deal around for one of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don't Three in the UK stock the Dopod 838pro? They are starting to here in Oz.

Hi Shabba,
If you haven't taken the plunge already then some more info for you. I've got a working 3 SIM now and making and receiving calls OK. Don't have all the GPRS settings for 3 so didn't test that.
Gav.

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Don't Three in the UK stock the Dopod 838pro? They are starting to here in Oz.
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Hi topher1976, no they dont mate, infact it was only recently perhaps in the last year or so that they decided to release phones that weren't the size of bricks. The only phone they've release over here that slightly resembles a PPC was the Motorola a1000 and then a later but similar Motorola model both of which were huge and based on symbian UIQ operating system which is a bit poooh!!!

GavinN said:
Hi Shabba,
If you haven't taken the plunge already then some more info for you. I've got a working 3 SIM now and making and receiving calls OK. Don't have all the GPRS settings for 3 so didn't test that.
Gav.
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Cheers for all your help Gav have you tried txting mate?? I'm just waiting for a PAC code from orange before I go an order 1. Orange did try an offer me the SPV M3100 on a very good contract but couldnt compete with tmobile's Web n Walk. Guess i'd have to pay to have it unlocked though!!
Once again cheers Gavin!!!!!!!!!

Hey,
yeah TXT'ing is fine too. I got my M3100 unlocked for £20 from Orange. Not free but I can live with that.
Gav.

hopefully t-mobile will unlock it for me... dont mind paying a little for it! by the way just got off orange and they've sed they do a off peek unlimited data package for £5!!!!!

changing networks spv M3100

hi all. could somebody help this newbie. what it is i've just got a spv M3100 hermes 100 (htc tytn) on orange uk as it was cheaper then what t-mobile wanted £85.00 I payed including wayfinder 6 gps t-mobile wanted £200 including autoroute (bloody big differnce) now my question what software do I need to sim unlock the phone & cid unlock it so I can install the latest t-mobile wwe rom on it as orange only comes with version 1.06 as I want to use my t-mobile sim in the phone for the hscda 1.8meg broadband speeds as orange haven't upgraded yet as i'm on the web&walk max with the mda vario (wizzard200) and really would love to be able to use the hermes 100 with t-mobile as I don't want to have to get a new phone on t-mobile as i've already got 4 mobiles already lol. if somebody could help me I would be most gratfull. a pint is in it for the first person to give me a proper answear ;-) as I don't want to brick the phone trying to find the right software to do what I want

NewZealand Vodafone SimCard not working ...

Hey guys,
I finally got my P3600 send over from Europe ... (none branded HTC Version... so no Vodafone Lock or so) However, if I insert my German SIM it will be recognized, but if I do the same with my NewZealand Vodafone Prepaid it jsut tells me that there isn't any SIM inserted Both Sims work fine with my German Nokia so I am not sure what the problem is.
Does anybody have a similar problem or know how to fix this?
help really appreciated
Rodpacker

rodpacker said:
Hey guys,
I finally got my P3600 send over from Europe ... (none branded HTC Version... so no Vodafone Lock or so) However, if I insert my German SIM it will be recognized, but if I do the same with my NewZealand Vodafone Prepaid it jsut tells me that there isn't any SIM inserted Both Sims work fine with my German Nokia so I am not sure what the problem is.
Does anybody have a similar problem or know how to fix this?
help really appreciated
Rodpacker
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Hi rodpacker
Welcome to the short list of members with a P3600 in NZ
Unfourtunatley I can't help you at the moment, I have a VFNZ OnAccount SIM that works fine, I guess I could try out my missus PrePaid SIM if you still can't get it to work after a couple of retries.
If you live in Auckland you could rock into CoolMobile or ETown, they were selling P3600's for a while and may have come across issues with PrePaid SIMs.
Not that it would make any difference, but do you have a SIM2 or older SIM card, and what size KB is it? Also I presume you have credit on it....

I had a similar problem when attempting to use my old China Mobile SIM, and got it sorted by getting the later version SIM card.

hm, good to hear that there is some others
I got a vodafone prepaid I bought like two months ago....Not sure which version it is. It says 128k and 3G on it. Does that tell u guys anything?
thanx heaps for ur help...
and jep I am in Auckland. Although got two p3600's and gonna sell one of em soon ... brand new!
How much where they when they were sold over here?
cheers
Rodpacker

tried another prepaid .... still no luck
last night I thought I might have to unlock my phone and it wasn't unlocked as I thought, however after ur message concerning NZ SimCards I doublechecked again and after using a German Medion Simcard, that worked I tried a UK O2 prepaid and that worked as well...I even got roaming going...So I guess I can save myself the hazzle of reunlocking the device...
Now could u maybe give me some more hints on the problem with NZ Vodafone Simcards?
thanx
Rodpacker

Hi rodpacker
A 128k 3G SIM should work. Have you tried your new SIM in another phone to make sure it's not a dud?
The P3600's were going for around $1200-1300 (NZD). Not sure why they stopped selling them (maybe because they wern't selling ). I got mine imported from the states for $800NZD delivered in box with warranty, so that's what you would be competing with to sell your spare.

jep card is working in my other phone atm ...
thanx for the price info...
good to know. Still busy skinning mine with the iphone skin and ipod player...since touchFlow isn't out for our model yet... will go to those shops u were talking about tomorrow
cheers
Rodpacker

Hi Rodpacker,
Sorry for my english..
about your problem, I remember a forum with a boy with similar problem...Can you try to speak about your (NZ) vodafone customer service. If i remember well the cust.serv unblocked a sim...
If I have not understand your problem, sorry
Bye

I think I'm about the only one who actually bought a P3600 retail in NZ, at the time it would have cost more to get it in from overseas...
But I'm probably not much help, my SIM is also on account - and is an ancient one as well! Was one of the original SIMs before the days of SIM2...
What radio version does your one have on it? Go to Start->Settings->System->Device Information to check. I've had issues with one of the later radio versions (1.46.x) in NZ, accepted the SIM ok but couldn't receive any calls. Currently using v1.38 which seems to work ok.
The radio ROM talks to the SIM, so this could be the issue.

Unlock a 8525 for use in Greece??? Currently Cingular?

Hi,
I have a really old phone (well maybe not REALLY old - 2years?) It is the Cingular 8525 and was my phone under contract with Cingular prior to getting a phone upgrade. It has been sitting around collecting dust for 2 years? And I think I finally have a use for it!
I am travelling to Greece, and I would like to pick up a prepaid 3G sim card upon arrival. I just want to make sure I unlock my current phone before I depart so that the phone works when I get the sim card in Greece!
ALSO --- My goal is to turn the phone into a WiFi router so that I can hookup my Laptop to it for checking emails etc... While I am travelling about. Are there any cooked roms that unlock and provide such WiFi functionality I am looking for?
Thanks!

I got my HTC unlocked
I have a unlocked HTC 8525 it is locked to AT&T and I use tmobile and others in it. What I have is a little chip that fits under the sim card.
I have also used it in a Nokia N95 8GB from the UK with
and USA At&t, Tmobile and others.
ww.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.unlock
It comes from china and took 3 weeks to the USA.