Can someone please help me in answering a niggling question I have about the TyTn (Hermes), before I go out and buy one. Firstly has anyone used their machines with a 3 sim?????
I have searched but cant find this being asked or answered anywhere.
yes gprs and utms and regular calls sms/mms are no problem at all.
But the services at three´s portal like music etc dont work 100% :S but i can take that...
closetland said:
yes gprs and utms and regular calls sms/mms are no problem at all.
But the services at three´s portal like music etc dont work 100% :S but i can take that...
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ok cheers for the answer mate, but i notice that your not in the uk and this questions mainly concerned the 3 network here in the uk mate and also the reason why I asked is because I saw this advert for the VPA Compact III, which my understanding was the same machine but he states that it cant be used with 3??? thanks for the quick reply.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VODAFONE-VPA-...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Hi Shabba,
I'm sure I put a 3 SIM in mine the other day without a problem, however i've had a few drinks since then and can't fully remember. I'll try mine tomorrow with a 3 SIM but there should be no reason it shouldn't work if it's unlocked.
I'll update you tomorrow.
Gavin.
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Hi Shabba,
I'm sure I put a 3 SIM in mine the other day without a problem, however i've had a few drinks since then and can't fully remember. I'll try mine tomorrow with a 3 SIM but there should be no reason it shouldn't work if it's unlocked.
I'll update you tomorrow.
Gavin.
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Cheers Gav, Please let us all know mate. So why is this guy http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VODAFONE-VPA-...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
stating its not compatible???? totally confused!!!!
Yeah I don't get it either. There should be no reason why the TyTn can't connect to the 3 network as it's either WCDMA for 3 or GSM for O2 (Soon to be Orange) when there is no WCDMA coverage and the TyTN is able to use both. The only thing possibly is the 3 SIM card might be a UICC but I'd be very surprised if this is causing problems as Vodafone D2 and UK both use UICC too (basically a smart card with both USIM and SIM profiles stored).
Maybe it's as Closetland says that some 3 services are unavailable so he just says it doesn't work full stop?
Let me check for you tomorrow. I've got both a SPV M3100 (unlocked) and a T-Mobile Vario II I can try.
Gav.
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Yeah I don't get it either. There should be no reason why the TyTn can't connect to the 3 network as it's either WCDMA for 3 or GSM for O2 (Soon to be Orange) when there is no WCDMA coverage and the TyTN is able to use both. The only thing possibly is the 3 SIM card might be a UICC but I'd be very surprised if this is causing problems as Vodafone D2 and UK both use UICC too (basically a smart card with both USIM and SIM profiles stored).
Maybe it's as Closetland says that some 3 services are unavailable so he just says it doesn't work full stop?
Let me check for you tomorrow. I've got both a SPV M3100 (unlocked) and a T-Mobile Vario II I can try.
Gav.
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Cheers Gav please let us know mate!
Trying to get my damn 3 SIM working - they have all been deactivated!!! Bloody company account departments...
Update soon..
Gav.
UPDATE:
I've got one 3 SIM which does register onto 3 but when i make a call I get the message 'Your service does not allow access to this number' so the call is being setup correctly. This is the exact same behaviour as having the SIM in the original LG phone.
Gav.
Brilliant. Thanks for all your help Gav. Now to look for the best deal around for one of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shabba007 said:
Brilliant. Thanks for all your help Gav. Now to look for the best deal around for one of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don't Three in the UK stock the Dopod 838pro? They are starting to here in Oz.
Hi Shabba,
If you haven't taken the plunge already then some more info for you. I've got a working 3 SIM now and making and receiving calls OK. Don't have all the GPRS settings for 3 so didn't test that.
Gav.
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Don't Three in the UK stock the Dopod 838pro? They are starting to here in Oz.
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Hi topher1976, no they dont mate, infact it was only recently perhaps in the last year or so that they decided to release phones that weren't the size of bricks. The only phone they've release over here that slightly resembles a PPC was the Motorola a1000 and then a later but similar Motorola model both of which were huge and based on symbian UIQ operating system which is a bit poooh!!!
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Hi Shabba,
If you haven't taken the plunge already then some more info for you. I've got a working 3 SIM now and making and receiving calls OK. Don't have all the GPRS settings for 3 so didn't test that.
Gav.
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Cheers for all your help Gav have you tried txting mate?? I'm just waiting for a PAC code from orange before I go an order 1. Orange did try an offer me the SPV M3100 on a very good contract but couldnt compete with tmobile's Web n Walk. Guess i'd have to pay to have it unlocked though!!
Once again cheers Gavin!!!!!!!!!
Hey,
yeah TXT'ing is fine too. I got my M3100 unlocked for £20 from Orange. Not free but I can live with that.
Gav.
hopefully t-mobile will unlock it for me... dont mind paying a little for it! by the way just got off orange and they've sed they do a off peek unlimited data package for £5!!!!!
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I have an o2 branded (hardware and software) XDA Exec (it's unlocked). My current contract is coming to an end, so I am looking for a new contract. I am thinking about buying a contract with 3. However, I would like to keep my current phone even if the new contract includes a phone. My question is: can I put the sim in my XDA Exec? What functionality would I be able to expect? Would I be able to make phone calls, send and recieve text messages, make video calls, send and recieve picture messages etc.?
Yep, works fine, i've used my 3 sim before! Just need to add the correct connection details for the 3 portal etc.
though the three network will work . i will not recommend it because three network states do not use anyother phone with there sim cards.
Also my nokia 6230i and nokia 3220 both were working with three but they blocked them after two weeks.
so think before you use it;...
3 now have the Qtek version of Exec on their network so theres no reason why you cant use your exec now. I've never had a problem with another 3G phone on the network. The only problem that sometimes seems to occur is when the 3G SIM is put in a non 3G phone - itworks for a while then after draining too much power (as 3G SIM is higher rating than GPRS SIM) it kills the phone.... Why not just pop into a 3 shop though or call customer services?
i'm trying to dig out connection details to three. Could anybody shed some light? I've x-series addon and it would be nice if i can get it on my universal
thanks, sorted out! excellent one, i'm able to use msn messenger & web browsing. now it's time to check skype
Edit:SKYPE also works perfectly.
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i'm trying to dig out connection details to three. Could anybody shed some light? I've x-series addon and it would be nice if i can get it on my universal
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Working on Skype etc.?! Is that on a standard XDA Exec? What are the settings? How much do the add-ons cost?
I want to try this out! Ive ordered the contract...
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3 now have the Qtek version of Exec on their network so theres no reason why you cant use your exec now. I've never had a problem with another 3G phone on the network. The only problem that sometimes seems to occur is when the 3G SIM is put in a non 3G phone - itworks for a while then after draining too much power (as 3G SIM is higher rating than GPRS SIM) it kills the phone.... Why not just pop into a 3 shop though or call customer services?
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Well I have just been speaking to 3 and they will NOT support any non 3 handset nor will they give out sms, mms, or internet settings, morever if they discover that you are using a NON 3 handset then they will suspend service immediately... their customer service is absolute crap... major row on phone vowing never to return or continue to spend in excess of 100 GBp each month as pay as you go customer
Hi,
I have been using 3 sim for 9 months now. U can use video calling , internet etc without any problems.
Jatt
Can u share, please
suniil said:
thanks, sorted out! excellent one, i'm able to use msn messenger & web browsing. now it's time to check skype
Edit:SKYPE also works perfectly.
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Hi, Can u share your 3 settings for GPRS , MMs and web browsing, please . I am on 3 and have not been able to get the gprs working , nor the MMS. Thus can't get on to the net or msn etc on my O2 XDA Exec. Just for the info I have been using 3Sim on this for the past 7 months no problems with the phone functionality.
Thanx in advance
Tunndoc
Can anybody help with this query? I'd be interested to know too.
Thanks
you might find http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-266774.html useful it shows the settings.
I am on 3 with a XDA Exec and I can get almost all functionality aside from buying stuff from 3 online as it doesn't have the correct root certificates from 3 (and 3 never had the exec as a phone anyways!)
For the CORRECT settings to get you running on 3 click here
Psi
I know Dopod 900 and other 3G phones can be used in Japan as long as you have a 3G enabled SIM card from your home telco. How about the new U1000? If I buy one in Singapore can I use it during my trips to Japan? This is a major purchase decision point so please help if you can. Thanks!
I can confirm it works. And you need to use a handfree to make call. I used 3HK and CSL SIM card in Japan and works just fine.
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I can confirm it works. And you need to use a handfree to make call. I used 3HK and CSL SIM card in Japan and works just fine.
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Could you make a GPRS / internet connection with the Dopod U1000 in Japan?
Yes. It works just fine. No problems.
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Yes. It works just fine. No problems.
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That's good news. Could you please tell me how you set up the GPRS connection?
Edit: oops , I see, you are not using a Japanese service, like Softbank, or NTT. I am still trying to find out whether it's possible to use an unlocked Athena with a Softbank SIM card. I know the it would work as phone, but how to set up the GPRS connection would be the problem.
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That's good news. Could you please tell me how you set up the GPRS connection?
Edit: oops , I see, you are not using a Japanese service, like Softbank, or NTT. I am still trying to find out whether it's possible to use an unlocked Athena with a Softbank SIM card. I know the it would work as phone, but how to set up the GPRS connection would be the problem.
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Yes. I use Singtel and use roaming when I'm in Japan. My SIM has the 3G service activated. I hope you can find a telco offering service in Japan. Good luck.
Using Dopod 900 3G PPC in Japan
Hi! Can anyone tell me how to get the Dopod 900 I bought in Malaysia to work here in Japan? Sales clerks are telling me it's not possible. Dopod's site doesn't offer any help. Thanks a lot. I plan to be here for a month or more so it will really help to find out what's true and possible.
Yes I can confirm it works too.
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Hi! Can anyone tell me how to get the Dopod 900 I bought in Malaysia to work here in Japan? Sales clerks are telling me it's not possible. Dopod's site doesn't offer any help. Thanks a lot. I plan to be here for a month or more so it will really help to find out what's true and possible.
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Yes it does. As far as I understand if it supports 3G then it should technically work in japan. Too bad I no longer have my Dopod 900 with me to test it out.
Dopod 900 Woes in Japan
Thanks for your replies. The problem is I want a Japanese sim card and number not the roaming services from Malaysia as I have temporarily moved. This what sales clerks are telling me is not possible. They say I must have a Japanese made handphone. !!?? I know they are protectionist here but surely there is a way around the obstacles.. Any specific suggestions? really appreciate your help!
What I know
I am really interested in this too, as I plan on getting an Athena soon. However, I know that you don't need a "Japanese made handphone". They don't like people using different phones on their network, but they can't really stop you.
Well, they probably can technically stop you, but it is highly unlikely that they will. The reason the sales clerk is telling you it is impossible is probably because there are almost NO unlocked phones in Japan. 99.99% of all phones sold here are branded and locked to a specific carrier.
I am a Hermes user and bought my Hermes through Softbank, a carrier here in Japan. I have since reflashed it hundreds of times and have never had a problem with connecting to the network. I also know others on this board who are Kaiser users who have imported their Kaisers from other countries and are using them on Softbank's system with no problems. There was also a big interest in the mobile device geek community of Japan in the Treo 700w when it first appeared, and I have seen blogs of Japanese guys who have got that running on Softbank's system. So it IS definately possible to run non-Softbank phones on Softbank's network provided you have a valid Softbank SIM.
Some caveats:
I have never seen any carrier here just selling SIMs. You will more than likely have to purchase a phone to get a SIM card.
Voice and SMS (text) should work automatically just by popping in the SIM. Data and MMS are more difficult.
Data
There are two ways of connecting to Softbank's data servers, and each is charged differently. One method uses a public access server, but the charges for using this are quite high. This is the server used for people connecting laptops using cellular modems. The other method allow access under Softbank's tiered and capped system, which is the much cheaper and safer option. The connection settings to access this system are very closely guarded and no one to my knowledge has been able to hack them.
However, there is a workaround. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298031
The problem with this workaround is that it requires a program called WIFIwake.exe. And it just so happens that WIFIwake.exe is coded specifically for different machines. On the link above, there is a version for the Universal and a version for the Hermes (the U and H in the .zip file names). Valued member Chaimd hex-edited a file to make it work for Kaiser: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328362&highlight=softbank&page=3. And he seemed to think it was a pretty easy job. If asked nicely, he might be able to hex-edit one for Athena too - or not. I don't know.
MMS
MMS is also more difficult to set up. Basically, it requires a program called MMSLite which can be quirky. The only way to know for sure whether it will work with Athena is to try and see I think. And it does NOT work on WM6.1 systems, so you will have to decide between MMS + WM6 or NoMMS + WM6.1. This is the big reason I am thinking of buying the 7501 rather than the 7510.
After some research...
... on some Japanese sites, it seems that a CID unlocked Athena can use the WIFIwake.exe file meant for the Universal.
Also, MMSLite seems to be working as well. So it seems that on the Softbank network at least the Athena can do it all.
Dopod Woes in Japan
Dear Larsuck,
I appreciate your investing so much time and thought to help me. I'm not even remotely savy enough to understand the complexities of your advice but I do gather that buying a Japanese phone is inevitable. Any suggestions for the cheapest? as I'll just use it for local calls and carry my laptop with me when I need other connectivity.
Professorredbag said:
Any suggestions for the cheapest? as I'll just use it for local calls and carry my laptop with me when I need other connectivity.
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Huh? So you have decided not to the the Athena? There are tons of really cool phones over here that can do many, many different things - but none of them compare to WM in that they aren't as customizable. Go to the Softbank website (English: http://mb.softbank.jp/mb/en/ ) and check them out.
However, if you want to get the Athena, here are two choices:
1) Get the Athena, come to Japan, get a cheap phone (cheap in the relative sense) here, take the SIM card out of it and put it in the Athena. Do some research on this site and get the Athena up and running. Keep the cheap phone just in case the Athena dies.
2) Get the Athena, come to Japan, get an expensive but slightly subsidized phone, unlock it and sell it on ebay. Use the sim card in your Athena and hope it doesn't die.
I need the .NBH file from O2 UK that's WM5, anyone please??
EDIT BY MODERATOR Its here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314866
I just might be able to help!?
i just received phone back from o2 repair centre, it appears that someone has forgot to remove the service sd card with complete wm5 image
step0011 said:
i just received phone back from o2 repair centre, it appears that someone has forgot to remove the service sd card with complete wm5 image
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You would be quite the hero around here if you uploaded and shared everything on that card...
Its here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314866
Uhuhuhu, didn't expect this today, after a great saturday night party . I'm after a few drinks now, but anyway gonna flash my XDA Orbit now . Thanks guys ! Finally switch to WM 6 .
Mmmmm....nice and easy.
1. USPL - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403
2. Windows Mobile 6.0 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314675
With no problems flashed brand new UK O2 XDA Orbit (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314866 - Windows Mobile 5.0 ROM in memory card, just in case).
Even easier than XDA Mini S. Beautifull. Now 4 hours configuring . Love it.
Thanks guys. Keep the good work !
thanks step0011 man!!, my super hero!!
I spent more than 3 weeks to find this ROM
It's kinda funny that it just leaked accidentally by the repairing service.
I'll try it tonight if it's work with the O2 company one not the T-Mobile.
thanks again!!
ps. I don't know it's gonna work with T-Mobile only or both O2 and T-Mobile.
i have the xda orbit on o2, i just use t-mobile sim because they offer unlimited GPRS
I tried and it works perfectly as it used to.
anyway, got a bunch of thanks to step0011, you are goddess!!
Just a couple of words to say congratulations on finding this elusive rom...
...and a big thank-you for sharing it!!!
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I tried and it works perfectly as it used to.
anyway, got a bunch of thanks to step0011, you are goddess!!
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lol i'll take that as a complement, even though i am very much male
orbit on t-mobile
Hey step0011.
I have a quick question - OT.
I also have an orbit with t-mobile (unlimited gprs) but cannot get the voicemail to work as the orbit will drop the 0 on the voicemail number (+440627843******). Any ideas on how to overcome this? I tried dropping the +44 but i still get a message from t-mobile that i've dialled the wrong number.
Thanks
ben
You drop the +44 and insert a 0 (zero) in its place.
lol good question i usually just dial 222... i'll get back to you on that soon
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Hey step0011.
I have a quick question - OT.
I also have an orbit with t-mobile (unlimited gprs) but cannot get the voicemail to work as the orbit will drop the 0 on the voicemail number (+440627843******). Any ideas on how to overcome this? I tried dropping the +44 but i still get a message from t-mobile that i've dialled the wrong number.
Thanks
ben
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hehe cracked it... rite... in the infinate wisdome of microsoft (being smart arses) have taken it opon themselves to automatically drop the 0 after +44 so just put 2 0's instead of 1 e.g +4400737*******
Hi,
I'm french and on a 6 days trip to Tokyo.
I cannot receive any network.
Can someone tell me if it's normal not to get anything or should I do something special to get a network ?
Thanks in advance
It -should- work...
Hm, it -ought- to work if you're using a hermes or other quadband phone...
not sure what the issue could be without more details, but you could try creating a new modem connection to Softbank:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298031&highlight=softbank+proxy
Not sure if this will interfere with any settings you've already got on there, however, and also not sure if/how you'll be charged.
If your phone is unlocked, I've been told by the Softbank stores in Meguro and Nakameguro that they will sell you a SIM card on a basic plan if you bring in your phone and let them test it with a Softbank SIM. I guess this wont help your net settings, however...
-nate
Murcielago said:
Hi,
I'm French and on a 6 days trip to Tokyo.
I cannot receive any network.
Can someone tell me if it's normal not to get anything or should I do something special to get a network ?
Thanks in advance
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japan has a 3G(UMTS) network - the TyTN will work.
BUT, you need to check with your service provider that they have a roaming agreement with one of japans networks.
Once I read that Vodafone works but it's the only Italian carrier that has this option, so I guess elivne is right!
Pella
Hey guys,
I finally got my P3600 send over from Europe ... (none branded HTC Version... so no Vodafone Lock or so) However, if I insert my German SIM it will be recognized, but if I do the same with my NewZealand Vodafone Prepaid it jsut tells me that there isn't any SIM inserted Both Sims work fine with my German Nokia so I am not sure what the problem is.
Does anybody have a similar problem or know how to fix this?
help really appreciated
Rodpacker
rodpacker said:
Hey guys,
I finally got my P3600 send over from Europe ... (none branded HTC Version... so no Vodafone Lock or so) However, if I insert my German SIM it will be recognized, but if I do the same with my NewZealand Vodafone Prepaid it jsut tells me that there isn't any SIM inserted Both Sims work fine with my German Nokia so I am not sure what the problem is.
Does anybody have a similar problem or know how to fix this?
help really appreciated
Rodpacker
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Hi rodpacker
Welcome to the short list of members with a P3600 in NZ
Unfourtunatley I can't help you at the moment, I have a VFNZ OnAccount SIM that works fine, I guess I could try out my missus PrePaid SIM if you still can't get it to work after a couple of retries.
If you live in Auckland you could rock into CoolMobile or ETown, they were selling P3600's for a while and may have come across issues with PrePaid SIMs.
Not that it would make any difference, but do you have a SIM2 or older SIM card, and what size KB is it? Also I presume you have credit on it....
I had a similar problem when attempting to use my old China Mobile SIM, and got it sorted by getting the later version SIM card.
hm, good to hear that there is some others
I got a vodafone prepaid I bought like two months ago....Not sure which version it is. It says 128k and 3G on it. Does that tell u guys anything?
thanx heaps for ur help...
and jep I am in Auckland. Although got two p3600's and gonna sell one of em soon ... brand new!
How much where they when they were sold over here?
cheers
Rodpacker
tried another prepaid .... still no luck
last night I thought I might have to unlock my phone and it wasn't unlocked as I thought, however after ur message concerning NZ SimCards I doublechecked again and after using a German Medion Simcard, that worked I tried a UK O2 prepaid and that worked as well...I even got roaming going...So I guess I can save myself the hazzle of reunlocking the device...
Now could u maybe give me some more hints on the problem with NZ Vodafone Simcards?
thanx
Rodpacker
Hi rodpacker
A 128k 3G SIM should work. Have you tried your new SIM in another phone to make sure it's not a dud?
The P3600's were going for around $1200-1300 (NZD). Not sure why they stopped selling them (maybe because they wern't selling ). I got mine imported from the states for $800NZD delivered in box with warranty, so that's what you would be competing with to sell your spare.
jep card is working in my other phone atm ...
thanx for the price info...
good to know. Still busy skinning mine with the iphone skin and ipod player...since touchFlow isn't out for our model yet... will go to those shops u were talking about tomorrow
cheers
Rodpacker
Hi Rodpacker,
Sorry for my english..
about your problem, I remember a forum with a boy with similar problem...Can you try to speak about your (NZ) vodafone customer service. If i remember well the cust.serv unblocked a sim...
If I have not understand your problem, sorry
Bye
I think I'm about the only one who actually bought a P3600 retail in NZ, at the time it would have cost more to get it in from overseas...
But I'm probably not much help, my SIM is also on account - and is an ancient one as well! Was one of the original SIMs before the days of SIM2...
What radio version does your one have on it? Go to Start->Settings->System->Device Information to check. I've had issues with one of the later radio versions (1.46.x) in NZ, accepted the SIM ok but couldn't receive any calls. Currently using v1.38 which seems to work ok.
The radio ROM talks to the SIM, so this could be the issue.