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cant set Phone Pad as default input method

I tried to set the Phone Pad as the default input method by following the instructions here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
Set default SIP
The default SIP on practically every device is the Keyboard. You may prefer entry with a different SIP. If so, you can set this to be the default SIP through:
HKCU\ControlPanel\SIP\DefaultIM = |SIP ClassID|
The |SIP ClassID| will depend on the SIP's ClassID, which may vary per-device. You can find the correct ClassID by searching for "IsSIPInputMethod" in HKCR, then going to the top key and checking the name of the SIP that's in the (Default) value.
Please note that this doesn't work with all SIPs. Transcriber/Calligrapher are two examples of this.
You can, however, set Transcriber as the default SIP by starting Transcriber.exe on startup. (This should be moved to, or added to, non-registry Tweaks page)
WARNING: Do not assume that the below ClassIDs would be -as found- on your device! Setting it to a non-existant SIP may prevent your device from booting up!
Howevere, when I did a soft reset, the screen turned white which means that the settings did not work and I hard to hard reset. Is there any other way to get Phone Pad to be the default SIP.

Have you tried Sipchange?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56053&highlight=sipchange

search the registry for "Phone Pad" to find the classID to make sure what you put in is correct. the wiki just assumes what the class id is from previous wm5 phones.

i realised that sometimes i am unable to select Phone Pad. any of you facing the same problem too?

vapor said:
i realised that sometimes i am unable to select Phone Pad. any of you facing the same problem too?
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I've got the same problem!!! It seems that sometimes if I select Phone Pad It doesn't work right and the system shows the default keyb.
How can I fix it?

El_Mar1ach1 said:
vapor said:
i realised that sometimes i am unable to select Phone Pad. any of you facing the same problem too?
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I've got the same problem!!! It seems that sometimes if I select Phone Pad It doesn't work right and the system shows the default keyb.
How can I fix it?
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So far, I have yet to find a solution. But if I do, I'll be sure to let you know.

alright it works now:
use this program if you have yet to do so:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56053&highlight=sipchange
and follow the instructions there, including using the " when it calls for.
now i have phonepad set as default all the way

Dear all, sorry to hijack but can someone enlighten me to how I can get the phonepad SIP into the 838Pro? I tried installing PhonePad_Magician_Generic_WWE_RC12.CAB and PhonePad_WM5_StrongARM.cab but it does not work after a soft reset.
Can someone advise me which cab file I shld use?

uncaloke said:
Can someone advise me which cab file I shld use?
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ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/
There are 2 phonepad CABs here, english and international versions.

@vapor:
yeah, I'm working on a version of SIPChange that will set and manage its own startup shortcut as well as allow you to change the default timeout. Getting the startup shortcut correct is one of the biggest headaches with my little app... I haven't had a lot of free cycles to devote to it lately though.

don't edit registry. it will need hard reset.
use program sipchange 1.1 or phoneAlarm
SIP need to set every reboot that bill gate brain.
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Is there a basic large PHONE pad available ?

Just wondering if there is a very basic phone pad skin available for the M3100...
Just a single line for the number, maybe 2 if the number is too long so the digits don't get too small...
Large buttons for numbers, no video buttons etc just numbers, no need for the TALK/END sort of stuff as the hardware green/red buttons work fine..
Just looking for something that people with wide fingers can use without a stylus....
If there isn't one, what do I need to do to create one ??
Searched the forum but can't really find anything of use on the subject.
Many thanks Phil

I found that the vista theme on Paulya.com worked wonders for this:
http://www.paulya.com/etenskins.htm
http://www.paulya.com/Projects/Eten_Skins/Vista/Vista_Trans/Vista_Trans_Origin.zip
I am tempted to go back to this dialer as it was so good on my Wizard - just lacks a video button.

Hi, Thanks for that.... Managed to get the skin to work that is included with the eten dialer... I also downloaded the eten_ans etc .zip and put it in the windows dir on the phone after extracting it.. can't seem to find how to enable it (am I thick or something... Don't answer that !!)
The only thing I didn't do was use active sync... I copied the extracted file to my memory card then copied them over from that as the PC I'm at, at the moment doesn't run activesync 4 or higher (horrible win98 se machine..
Any comments much appreciated
Phil

I jast ran the cab file from my storage card and it installed perfectly. I did have diffulculty installing additional skins though.

Hi Phil,
There is a CAB on the FTP here which gives you the phonepad software EXACTLY like in older HTC phones: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/Phone Pad - English Only.CAB
I installed it and it's great!
Gavin.

GavinN said:
Hi Phil,
There is a CAB on the FTP here which gives you the phonepad software EXACTLY like in older HTC phones: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/Phone Pad - English Only.CAB
I installed it and it's great!
Gavin.
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Great - Any chance of a screenshot?

Have you guys seen Buzz's Virgy DeepOcean Dialer for WM5 QVGA?
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http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_remository/func,fileinfo/id,335/
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Hi sorry to be thick
ok i downloaded the buzzdev.net qvga dialer
but how does one install it. Do i just run the cab via activesync or run it on the vario2 or what sorry about the stupid questions
also i download the splash screen stuff from there too how do i make that appear instead of the default tmobile one when starting up
thanks
JEREMY

Just stick it onto your device, tap it to load it, install and then when prompted reboot (just hit OK and it'll do it) - the PIN entry screen remains the same, but the main dialer screen changes.
It looks very nice, and I'd use it all the time - except there's no way to use the T9 dialing feature which the regular dialer offers (where you can just type the name of the person you wish to call and it shows all valid entries from the list, so e.g. if I wanted to call my Mum - whose entry is Mum, ironically - I'd type 6-8-6 and then hit Dial). It's quite sad to see that this feature is missing, probably for a good reason as it does cause a fair bit of slowdown on my phone - more than on my old Alpine! - but I still use it all the time and I'm going to have to uninstall the skin because I really neeeeeeeeed that feature. :/

ok if I wanted to get the original tmobile dialer back then all I would have to do is uninstall it then? cool
how would I install the splash screen then?
Jeremy

Vijay55,
I installed it OK, the large buttons are awesome, however I have had the following problems:
1) DTMF (Tones) don't work properley when accessing voice mail etc (UK T-mobile) or any other press x application
2) Jog Dialer not active
3) No Smart dialling
Am I doing anything wrong?
Have had to pull it off becasue of the DTMF problem, I've installed it, removed it, rebooted, changed the options etc, nothing seems to fix it.

Fixed it!!
Though I am now using the Eten dialler with smart dial support and one of Paulya's Dark Blue Glass skins.
Editing the registry and setting the value to 0, then soft reboot and dtmf tones are working.
Setting it to 0 wasn't the obvious choice, and previously I hadn't soft rebooted.
Found the following from dhushy in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700
Worked it out. For anyone with a similar problem, use the registry editor to locate the following key:
HKLM,"Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL","EnableDTMFSupport",0x0 0010001,1
Change the value from 1 to a 0 and Bob's yer Uncle (for non-British readers that means everything will be cushty - see Only Fools and Horses for a contextual translation)
Did this and I was able to manipulate my voicemail messages as normal.
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I am on T-Mobile UK.

PhoneBoost - (Improve WM5 Phone!)

Here what for me renders a PocketPC Phone a TRUE telephone….
I introduce to you:
PhoneBoost
After to have installed it, what “happens here” to the “Telephone”
1) The keys are moved (tnks to the Eten plugin) ALL Version
2) The keys come magnified (tnks to the Eten plugin) ALL Version
3) Enabled vibra-feedback when a numerical keys are pressed ALL Version
4) Disabled the delay of three second before the phone ring! ALL Version
5) Installed “SmartDial” (by HTC) for a fast search of the contact to call ALL Version
6) Now you can skin the dialpad! (simply create an image of the keyboard and copy it in the Windows folder) ALL Version
7) Incoming Call PopUp is magnified ALL Version
8) Removed "SMS Sent" notification bubble ALL Version
9) Installed a GPRS connection Enabler/Disabler (MoDaCo's NoData) ALL Version
10) Enabled GPRS Disconnect button in the bouble when connected ALL Version
11) Installed "ZoomSMS" (an Eten's app to display on Today the missed calls and the unread SMS. It also open the received sms in a proper (magnified) windows Only in the FULL Version)
12) Installed "Scenario" (an Eten's app to change the phone's profile. You can access to this program from the icon in the Today's Taskbar or from an icon in "Programs" Only in the FULL Version)
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this skin (made from me) is included (it remembers the keyboard of some [email protected])
however, its support only Portait mode...if you swith to Landscape mode skin change to the original WM5 one!
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As you can see...none video-calls keys are present!
If you dont like it, you can use the original ETEN skin
(look the images in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=930266&postcount=1)
Simply install my PhoneBoost, soft-reset the device, after install my "Eten Skin Patch" and softreset again!
Skin is only for Protait mode....in Landsape mode u always use the standard WM5 skin!
...Some screen-shot:
> ONLY for WM5!
> Moto Skin support only Portrait mode, however if you use Landscape mode you can use SmartDialing w/ the original WM5's skin
> Only qVGA display (no square, no vga, etc..)
> The dial pads (Portrait/Landscape/Skined/etc..) do not have a "Video Call" key, however PhoneBoost also work on the 3G devices!
> After install, you must Soft-Reset the device!
Note:
For some reasons, i have added this other two registry-tweaks:
- System Registry, form HIVE, are now FILE-based
- All the WM5's "Security Restriction" are now OFF
Many many tnks to:
geo77
teddyking
Last version: 7 may 2007 (GMT+1: 22:50)
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can you tell me how you do the "Disabled the delay of three second before the phone ring"?

Hmm. So I have a skinned phonepad with smartdial already installed. What happens if I put this over? Is there one without the Smartdial?

Ultimate Chicken said:
Hmm. So I have a skinned phonepad with smartdial already installed. What happens if I put this over? Is there one without the Smartdial?
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U install SmartDial (however u have it) + another Skin + Eten plugin (bigger buttons) + some registry tweaks

xpking said:
can you tell me how you do the "Disabled the delay of three second before the phone ring"?
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Its a registry tweaks:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0
edit "Script" value to av0pr

AX3L said:
Its a registry tweaks:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0
edit "Script" value to av0pr
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many thanks

vibra feedback?
how is the "vibra-feedback" enabled? would it be a registry tweak? because i currently have a phone skin installed and do not want to override it with the file posted in this thread

tomorrow i'll merge this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1250622#post1250622 to my PhoneBoost....
the "final" phone are coming....

NEW VERSION!!

AX3L said:
NEW VERSION!!
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Will this work on a Treo 700W?

works on any WM5 (and, only WM5) PocketPC Phone device!

AX3L said:
works on any WM5 (and, only WM5) PocketPC Phone device!
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Ok thanks. I'll give it a shot.

so sorry...
another NEW version is ready!
(i have simply added one registry tweaks!)

AX3L said:
so sorry...
another NEW version is ready!
(i have simply added one registry tweaks!)
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It didn't seem to work. It's still the WM5 default Dialer I had previously.

What's for WM6?
I try on 818 pro with WM6 ROM,all work but smartdial.Please keep me one work with WM6.

sorry..it work only on WM5 devices

jeewizz101 said:
It didn't seem to work. It's still the WM5 default Dialer I had previously.
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Itz a SQUARE display??
it support qVGA only (230x320)...

MAYBE....last version relased......

i am sorry for my question, but does it really boosts phone performance (speed, response)? On which devices and AKU versions it is tested ?

it "boost" the WM5 phone adding some useful function......
tested on a HTC P3600 (WM5, AKU 3.3), an Asus P535 (WM5 AKU 3.3) and the WM5 Emulator....

Phone Pad for WM6

I extracted an updated build of Phone Pad from one of the latest GPS WM5 ROMs and created an installation file for your pleasure. I've had it installed on WM6 for a couple days now and I have not had any problems with it freezing or not displaying the phonepad text input (which was a problem on some of the previous versions of WM5). Let me know if it works out for you. And if it doesn't... well, there's probably not much I can do about it anyway.
Included T9 Languages:
English
German
French
Italian
Spanish
Portuguese
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Swedish
Direct Download here!
http://rapidshare.com/files/36375322/PhonePad.rar

Thanks!!!!
It works Perfectly!

Installed but no luck?!
I installed you application, on a Trinity WM6 device.
But how can I change the keyboard layout?
Still in english and I want swedish.
Please help me out.

Languages
Within Phone pad tap and hold the sym/opt button for about two seconds; or from the Start menu open Settings, Input, select Phone Pad and tap options. Then tap the Languages tab to access the different language databases. This will only change the predictive text database, not the keyboard layout.

Found it..
Thanks for your help.
Now I only need to find out how I change the keyboard layout.
Thanks again.

Hello,
Just install on a mUn 2.01Te rom, it don't work for me, the phonepad don't show, but the keyboard till on the screen :-(

006fazer said:
Hello,
Just install on a mUn 2.01Te rom, it don't work for me, the phonepad don't show, but the keyboard till on the screen :-(
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You may want to try LVSW's 2.0.1.1 ROM (2007-05-27), because it seems to work without problems on that one.

Hi, after downloading this file do you have to open the disk utilty as normal land activesync it across or do you have to drop it all onto my minSD and open from the device? Seeing as there is no disk utlity guessing its the latter?
Thanks

Hi, to me it works perfectly with udk WM6 2.01 LE (Italian).
The only problem I have is that after I select the Italian language (and it works fine), if I restart the Trinity it comes back to the English...
Any idea on how to set the Italian language as default?
...someone told me that there would be a registry change to do...
Thanks in advance...

support for chinese simplified or not??
thanks before..

prsnow said:
You may want to try LVSW's 2.0.1.1 ROM (2007-05-27), because it seems to work without problems on that one.
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In my trinity, works fine. No problems till now

That is amazing, it is exactly what I was looking for.
I almost bought the SPB Keyboard but I didn't like that it only showed one line of text, the Phone Pad is exactly the right trade off in losing screen realestate vs bigger buttons.
I was looking at where it came from to see if a duch dictionary would be possible and saw in the about that it is from HTC themself, WHY on earth did HTC not put the Phone Pad on the Touch as a standard input method?

Found it already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312235&page=4

hmm thanks~
thanks phonepad works perfectly fine like it used to on my HTC d810

Can anyone screen grab this phone pad for me??

OzzMosiz said:
Can anyone screen grab this phone pad for me??
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Kris,
nice one thanks, same as what I've got currently. Just wanted to check otherwise would've tried if different. Out of interest what do you use to do phone screen shots??

If you're interested here can find my Touch style Phone Pad version

OzzMosiz said:
Kris,
nice one thanks, same as what I've got currently. Just wanted to check otherwise would've tried if different. Out of interest what do you use to do phone screen shots??
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Those are from Google Images. I use SOTI Pocket Controller for screenshots.
Kris

Hi
I like your Touch style phonepad.. am using it now. = )

HTC Full compact keyboard

hi all
i am looking for the old style keyboard.
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one that looks like this but with the numbers on top as well.
i am using energy Rom 2.1 manila win 6.5
does anyone have a cab file.
thanks for your help

neoculture said:
hi all
i am looking for the old style keyboard.
one that looks like this but with the numbers on top as well.
i am using energy Rom 2.1 manila win 6.5
does anyone have a cab file.
thanks for your help
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I want this too

CAVEGIANT said:
I want this too
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Go to Settings>Personal>Input
Select "Keyboard" as your input method and select small keys. Then press OK.
The picture you showed is actually the traditional old school keyboard with large keys, so the numerical keys are hidden. Select small keys and they should be back up.
Cheers

abubakar said:
Go to Settings>Personal>Input
Select "Keyboard" as your input method and select small keys. Then press OK.
The picture you showed is actually the traditional old school keyboard with large keys, so the numerical keys are hidden. Select small keys and they should be back up.
Cheers
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I am using Energy Rom and i think it has finger keyboard installed, i have tried the setting you have mentioned but it still shows as finger keyboard.
its the old school keyboard i want as a cab file if anyone has it.

the same problem
In the new roms with sense 2,5 etc is this keyboard also missing.

neoculture said:
hi all
i am looking for the old style keyboard.
one that looks like this but with the numbers on top as well.
i am using energy Rom 2.1 manila win 6.5
does anyone have a cab file.
thanks for your help
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I don't have a cab but just to clarify, the one you want is not the HTC Full compact keyboard, it is the stock Microsoft Windows Mobile keyboard.
dwizzy130

i iam using SPB Full Screen Keyboard v3.0.1!
its transforming all the screen to the keyboard!!!

Or use Resco Keyboard Pro

Just don't understand why no one help us ?!?!
Please, someone make a cab with the winmo qwerty keyboard!!!

in Resco Keyboard Pro you've got that skin

I want this one too!!!

i have this keyboard in the rom i'm usin'.
but,windows mobile 6.1
if someone tell me where,i can try to look in the .nbh file....

onesolo said:
Just don't understand why no one help us ?!?!
Please, someone make a cab with the winmo qwerty keyboard!!!
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Ok, responding to myself, I just found how to have this keyboard again!!
Apparently the keyboard is there all the time, at least in the roms that I've tested but the cookers don't enable it!!!
On the other day, accidentally I saw a cab on the Cloudy's rom that was to enable the "old" M$ keyboard.
I was (and I'm still) not using Cloudy's rom but decide to try if it works. Install it and puff there it was in all is glory!!!
Here is the link for that cab,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5410858&postcount=278
Many thkx to Cloudy for this one and a hands down to the rest of the cookers for hiding this feature. Worst than hiding is not to give a cab for this as I many times asked for it...

Fifty thumbs up. I've even posted a thread asking for this months ago. Just did a hard reset and decided to try my luck.
I have been in hell with the other keyboards. This is the missing piece for me.
Cheers to cloud and you, OP.