T-Mobile to have 3G by Summer - Wing, P4350 General

Well, according to Boy Genius Report T-mobile will be rolling out their 3G network by summer 2008 which is long overdue. What I'm curious about is how this will affect current users and rates. Will I have to buy a new phone or will my wing be able to use the new 3G network? Will the data rates go up or change from unlimited? Anybody heard any information on this?

Their 3G system is still GSM compatible, so having a wing is still ok. But that means they will have to release their 3G phone (a.k.a. Kaiser from what my sources tell me.)
As far as rates go: I dunno.
I'll just be glad when they stop messing around with the towers and service here.

will this affect the sucky EDGE??...
will they finish before AT&T?!
will it mean more stability in the connections??
will living near an airport mean you'll still get knocked off when a plane flies overhead??
who knows!.. but we will definitely find out sooner or later, right?

ivanmmj said:
Their 3G system is still GSM compatible, so having a wing is still ok. But that means they will have to release their 3G phone (a.k.a. Kaiser from what my sources tell me.)
As far as rates go: I dunno.
I'll just be glad when they stop messing around with the towers and service here.
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Awesome! Hopefully I'll be able to stream some decent videos and data on my wing once 3G comes around! Edge sucks when it comes to that. Appriciate the info!

But I thought the Wing is not 3G capable.

it would only make sense that the 2g network and equipment will still work until everyone has slowly migrated over to the new 3g network and the first phones would work on both networks.

ivanmmj said:
.... But that means they will have to release their 3G phone (a.k.a. Kaiser from what my sources tell me.)....
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I wanted the Tilt so damn bad I was almost willing to switch providers, but when I found out I could get a Wing for 79 bucks I stuck with T-Mo, thinking I'd wait ANOTHER year for them to roll out 3g. I would just have to buy a Kaiser if they came out with one that wasn't hobbled. (Can't someone put a 624mhz processor, and a decent amount of RAM in one of these? Is that too much to ask?)
Ya' know, maybe I should rethink that. I used a Psion 5 for years before switching to an iPAQ 2215, then a 2755-- all the while thinking: "Man, if I could get a keyboard, phone and Pocket PC rolled into one, that would be the best!"
I've had a Wing for a couple of months and I don't honestly recall one time that I've used the keyboard. Of course, it's keyboard is a piece of junk compared to the Psion 5's, but using the iPAQ's for so long conditioned me into a stylus typist.
I really have high hopes for Firefox portable on 3g though. This summer?--- well, I guess we've all heard that before!

I have heard different things, i surfed the net and these forums and i still get different things. all i wanna know is, is the wing compatible with the new 3G network coming out this summer?

No.
it will connect to the available compatible frequency. The expected 3/3.5G network will operate at a different frequency that the wing's radio doesn't connect to.
unless the newer radio roms somehow added that connection to that frequency... then no.

mv3 said:
No.
it will connect to the available compatible frequency. The expected 3/3.5G network will operate at a different frequency that the wing's radio doesn't connect to.
unless the newer radio roms somehow added that connection to that frequency... then no.
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haha.. F*** it then.. Bye Bye Wing.. and Hello Kaiser.. Well i hope Tmobile gets the TyTn 2.. ill be set with that..

cangri87 said:
haha.. F*** it then.. Bye Bye Wing.. and Hello Kaiser.. Well i hope Tmobile gets the TyTn 2.. ill be set with that..
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By the time T-mobile has their 3/3.5G..3.5+??.. network up and running smoothly.. HTC might well have a better and much sexier phone than the TyTn II....and from what I could tell the MDA Vario III is higher model of it than the original :O..unlike the Tilt which is a lower model but has this 1 advantage over it's big brother.. hope T-Mobile doesnt water down the Vario III before it gets over here, or should I say if?...and a maybe $300-$500 price tag for Vario III(via upgrade or contract and if they wait long enough it might be running a stock full, stable WinMobile 6.1 rather than buggy leaked one)versus $800+ for Kaiser? not to mention the still unsolved video drivers travesty with it :'(... new Touch Cruise and the P6500(Sedna) are pretty freaking sweet even compared to HTC's flagship TyTn II.
I actually love my phone enough that I might wait till next year for a phone with stock WinMobile 7 and all the freaky powers, motion sensor technology, and processors that phones running it are going to need. Those r going to make my Wing look like Razr! :'( I'll miss you Wing...btw, the TyTn II/Kaiser won't be able to run a lot of the previewed Windows Mobile 7 features either.

T-Mobiles 3G is slated to be substantially faster than AT&T's.
No one knows for sure if current 3G phones will work, but I have a Hermes and I'm being locked out of my internet in South Florida due to 3G testing, so i'm assuming it will work when it's released since I'm hitting a firewall right now.
A t-mobile rep on that board said they are going to have new pricing, so it's most likely going to be more expensive.

Questions...
I wonder if the prices for the unlimited data plans will change for people who are already in contracts. I'm paying an extra $19.99/month for the Total Internet add-on right now. Guess I'll just have to wait and see...

The Wing has 3G just not the one that we think is compatible to the new network right?

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No one knows for sure if current 3G phones will work
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Ummm, isnt Tmo's 3G supposed to be on the 1700 MHz band? That means the tilt etc wont work........

I'm hearing mixed things from everyone. I hope the wing will work but no one knows for sure.

Wing To Shift
im gonna change to the shift soon and hopefully i dont have problems with service

A T-Mobile wing is not a 3G phone so drop it and get a 3G phone

Related

To all USA users!

whats up all
I dont want to sound like an MDA flamer/hater, but i just wanted to suggest you guys something...
I had an MDA for more than a month, using it on cingular's network. Seeing all this ev-do, 3G expansion going around here in the states, i was just LUSTING at all this great speeds people were getting with ev-do.
So i thought: Man, im a gadget junkie, and i have a top cell phone using OLD 2G SERVICE?
Are you using a LOT of data? If your answer is yes, man, you dont know what you are missing here.
It's been a week i've got a new PPC-6700 from sprint! Its basically an MDA on steroids. And of course it's got 3G! If you use wifi on your MDA you know what to expect. except that with 3G THE WHOLE CITY IS THE HOTSPOT 8) !
let me tell you once you TOUCH this device you will never want to go back.
Yes i know cingular is rolling out 3G but it is doing so very slowly (only 16 markets compared to sprint's 150+) and by the time cingular finishes its rollout sprint will have 3.5G(ev-do rev A) started on most markets!
I got my 6700 for... ZERO DOLLARS AND NO CENTS, all instant rebates, no mail in whatsoever :shock:
Theres one guy on ebay very reputable called "sprintnetwork" that overnights you one if you have good to excellent credit and signs a contract for a new line of service to sprint. All i had to do was call and get approved and the next day i had the phone.
I don't know but this was such an awesome deal... If any of you guys want to surf a broadband speeds, reliably watch orb, use logmein, even skype, all without wifi.... I don't think there is one better way than to do this now. All that without even spending more than $200.
So bye, im a stranger here now, now im a member of the HTC apache forum! hehe :twisted:
Ps.: i said $200 because i had to pay $175 early termination :?
6700 with Sprint PCS..is it true 3G?
Looks like this 6700 is 3G. But if its running on Sprint..its not GSM
and Sprint PCS is very very OLD technology now.
I cannot use it in EU/Asia so stick with the MDA
Thanks
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ditto what the pp said... being US only is too restrictive for my needs... I'm now looking for a quad band + 3G (not a tri-band + 3G = quad band) phone from Asia. I hear I can then use it in Japan also...
ikkoku said:
ditto what the pp said... being US only is too restrictive for my needs... I'm now looking for a quad band + 3G (not a tri-band + 3G = quad band) phone from Asia. I hear I can then use it in Japan also...
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To my best knowledge, the biggest Japanese wireless providers uses a proprietary service... not sure though
yeah....
well, i got t-mobile so i have EDGE witch is a G3 service. Plus, i get to keep my MDA vario so i dotn have that REDICULOUS looking antenna on my phone. Im happy with my mda, so ha
yeah....
well, i got t-mobile so i have EDGE witch is a G3 service. Plus, i get to keep my MDA vario so i dotn have that REDICULOUS looking antenna on my phone. Im happy with my mda, so ha

Flame me please

anybody have links to benchmark tests of wizard vs. hermes? thinking about getting a hermes and i need to know if its really THAT much faster than the wizy.
excuse the title, im working on about 2 hours sleep
Ive got both and I must admit my wizard running crossbow (wm6) is leaving my hermes for dust! However I do feel that the roms for hermes are not on par yet with the ones for the wizard, so hopefully sometime soon there be a rom that shows the hermes for it true colours
IMO, the diff between a hermes and a wizard is something no ROM can fix:
3G
I've never surfed so fast. My search today plugin (treo lift) gives me instant google results. I can stream 96K to my A2DP headset. I don't use the $10 Hotel Internet coverage any more because my laptop can access 3G Internet speeds internet through DUN (soon to be Internet Sharing when the AKU 3.x TyTN ROM is released).
Before I had 3g coverage I missed my 8125 because it's ROM really was faster and besides, the device had almost double the battery life.
Now, I can't go back.
Sleuth255 said:
IMO, the diff between a hermes and a wizard is something no ROM can fix:
Before I had 3g coverage I missed my 8125 because it's ROM really was faster and besides, the device had almost double the battery life.
Now, I can't go back.
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i agree with u 100% 1000kbit/sec on 3g COMPARED TO 96kbit/sec on edge
Hands down, the 3G data is addictive. The first time you travel with it, you won't know how you did without it before... as long as you can keep this thing juiced, you'll be happy.
Soon The WM6 will be available for Hermes...
Eagerly waiting,....
omg!!!! are you serious? so you mean that my 8125 that i got for about $100, unlocked for free, and my dog left bite marks on, with crossbow running on it is faster than the miracle machine (tytn)?
sorry for the gloating. i was really about to shell out the money to get a hermes. but now i don't think i have to.
question... 3g is embeded in hardware right? there wont be a software tweak to allow 3g on to a wizard, correct? i'm on tmobile and i love it here. only thing is internet package is $30 and its not even 3g. i refuse to go to cingular. (we've got big beef since about 1999 when they were at&t. still haven't paid those bastards. no one talks to me like that.)
thanks for the info guys.
*back to wizard subforum*
Faster is a relative term. It's screen response is faster when overclocked to 240mhz (who doesn't overclock their wizard tho?). It's connectivity is snail like by comparison. 3G is a hardware feature unfortunately.
Thanks for stopping by!

T-mobile 3G Launch and The T-Mobile Wing

Whhhey first post lol!
I was curious (for wing users) as we all know that Tmobile has already launched it's 3G already maining because of the upcoming release of the G1. But does anyone have any idea IF we were to be upgraded also would there be something that we'd have to exchange on the phone or would this be some kind of firmware release. I hope it's a firmware or something because I would love to have 3G on my phone. Seeing the fact the we have the most expensive phone from Tmobile (Currently)... why shouldn't we.
I've heard that the performance in certain areas will still be lacky... but I still want to at least know that I have the option because I REEAAALLLY don't care for the look of the G1... just not my cup of tea lol. It's too obviously a copy of the Iphone. I was glad to get my Wing because it looks different... don't get me wrong... the memory is a pain sometimes but I rather has a rare-ish phone than seeing ever ****, tom and harry out with the same phone saying "Yo I have one too, bro! lol"
The G1 looks nearly exactly like the Wing.
The Wing will never have 3G. It just lacks the hardware.
I really am thinking about getting the G1 and still keep my wing for flashing and testing!
thats what im going to do.. I have two wings so i might sell one of them.. I already ordered the G1.. So im excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want the HTC HD... *saluvating*
I actually decided to order it today lol... I know, I know... I said I didn't like it before but it's still a bit of a step up from my wing. I'll use both. My wing is already unlocked so I don't want to lose a phone with that type of flexability. Plus the wing it actually quite cool to be honest... does what it's supposed to. But yeah.... I'm getting one too!!!!! yes!!
who is excited for wm on the g1? after someone hacks it to run windows mobile i will get one. i am due for a phone upgrade from tmobile anyway.
orochidp said:
The G1 looks nearly exactly like the Wing.
The Wing will never have 3G. It just lacks the hardware.
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isn't the wing just a herald mobile 6? i thought other carriers used the same phone, renamed, rebadged and added diferent covers for it and they are 3g capable so why wouldn't are be 3g capable????
I would like to know the answer to this question as well. Did HTC remove specific hardware from the T-Mobile version to make it lack 3G capability? That would be truly disappointing.
kingcoldcuts said:
I would like to know the answer to this question as well. Did HTC remove specific hardware from the T-Mobile version to make it lack 3G capability? That would be truly disappointing.
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The Herald/Atlas/Wing was released before 3G was widely available. T-Mobile just began rolling out 3G in October of last year. The Herald doesn't have a 3G radio therefore no 3G. Its not a matter of software.

Anyone in USA really concerned about losing 3G?

Like many of us I've been salivating at the prospect of the HD's large screen and, having decided that as good as my Touch Pro keyboard is, I don't use it enough to hold out for an HD with a keyboard (if there is even one in the roadmap). But..... I'm still smarting at not having 3G on my Touch Pro (and I know our XDA-Developers team may yet lick that limitation) so I'm seriously questioning whether I should go for the HD knowing it may never have 3G capability in the USA. Anyone else share this concern?
My need for 3G is about 10% of its total use...and my Edge network isn't exactly a snails pace. My Raphael is the best phone I've ever had, and I truly enjoy the ability to customize it. I am jumping ship and getting the HD without second thought. If the Elite team cracks the 3G...that's just the icing on the perfect raphael cake I have.
th1nm1nt said:
My need for 3G is about 10% of its total use...and my Edge network isn't exactly a snails pace. My Raphael is the best phone I've ever had, and I truly enjoy the ability to customize it. I am jumping ship and getting the HD without second thought. If the Elite team cracks the 3G...that's just the icing on the perfect raphael cake I have.
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Looks like we'll be here together too then th1nm1nt! Although I'll keep the Pro for a while once I have the HD just in case......
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I share
yeah, ummm, no 3G coverage here, don't care, lol. your 10%, well I am about 1%, just when I travel and can't hardly tell a difference anyway. Two things: Either the HTC rep that gave us bad news about the arrival of Blackstone in US is not telling the truth or doesn't know the truth to tell it. OR..... HTC really has the wrong idea about consumers in the US. Surely they realize that we want the device because of the many other improvements that it brings. The improvements in performance and the killer screen does it for me. I have owned PDA phone after PDA phone starting with the old Verizon xv6600, which by the way has a large screen compared to kaiser and many others and I know a breakthrough when I see one. If they really don't plan to release this device, then they had better be working on a 3G version with or without a sliding keyboard that runs windows mobile 7. If their really going to skip around generations and stuff, that wm7 device better arrive on time and on par with the iPhone in refinement and usability. They should make a device that people don't really need to cook ROMs to be satisfied with. Do it right the first time, don't take backwards steps, don't take baby steps either. Turn one foot directly in front of the other, in full force and confidence; the smart way. I want it now!
brucewilsonpa said:
Like many of us I've been salivating at the prospect of the HD's large screen and, having decided that as good as my Touch Pro keyboard is, I don't use it enough to hold out for an HD with a keyboard (if there is even one in the roadmap). But..... I'm still smarting at not having 3G on my Touch Pro (and I know our XDA-Developers team may yet lick that limitation) so I'm seriously questioning whether I should go for the HD knowing it may never have 3G capability in the USA. Anyone else share this concern?
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i think maybe its hidden and we can unlock it(if i get it, ill try to unlock the usa 3g) and if not maybe i can get ahold of a prototype with usa 3g. if not then oh well. ill keep it and sell it once they make one with usa 3g. i say if ur really worried then wait.......
I go all over the USA daily while driving my truck, and I've noticed that I get the big [H] in every 3G area I come to, so 3G is very important for me, but I'm still going to retire my Polaris when the HD comes out. I'll just hope and pray daily that someone figures out how to give us 3G...
Doesnt matter to me.
Only time I use it is if I accidentally update my weather application.
JesseW said:
I go all over the USA daily while driving my truck, and I've noticed that I get the big [H] in every 3G area I come to, so 3G is very important for me, but I'm still going to retire my Polaris when the HD comes out. I'll just hope and pray daily that someone figures out how to give us 3G...
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We finally got 3G here when I live in Millsboro Delaware. After installing Solace I to get the Big H now. I was either dumb or confussed. LOL However after the good people on here explained that H is better then 3G I was delighted. Not sure why. Called ATT said it was a little better, well faster and was fine for me to use with my unlimited plan.
Solace 1.5 is so smooth I just can't believe that I'd think of getting or replacing my Tilt. I think I finally found the phone for me.
Beachboyde/Jon
I switched from the Tytn 2 over to the Diamond not too long ago. I gave up 3G for slimmer form factor. I barely notice the difference. Maybe occasionally when I use YouTube or Opera, I wish I had a faster connection, but my day to day use of corporate push email is unaffected.
I would like to see the XDA pros open up 3G on these phones, but I feel the features are worth living with EDGE.
...but then again, I've been tempted to pick up a Slingbox lately too. Not sure I'd trust Slingplayer running on E.
Blob8me said:
Looks like we'll be here together too then th1nm1nt! Although I'll keep the Pro for a while once I have the HD just in case......
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So does that mean I'm no longer the stalker...but now you are?
T-mobile USA has 1700 Mhz and 2100 MHz frequencies for 3G support.
This is what I got from their website
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What frequency does your 3G network support?
Our 3G network supports both the 1700MHz and 2100MHz frequencies.
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So... I'll try 3G there once I get mine....
3G or no 3G
I have a Touch Diamond with no 3G (edge only) and one with 3G. (the big H) .
To me, not a big enough difference to worry about. The Edge connection is actually fast enough for me. May a half sec. difference in connection to web pages. Im getting the Touch HD. Besides most of the time I'm on wifi anyway. No big deal
So what exactly determines if we can get 3G in the US? Is it the radio? I have never quite understood this part.
bartimeus said:
So what exactly determines if we can get 3G in the US? Is it the radio? I have never quite understood this part.
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Not determined yet. The Elite team in the Raphael ROM forum does admit there is different hardware. They have connected to the US 3G, but don't think it is stable. They haven't finalized their research as of yet, but sure some more information will be coming shortly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420586
ok so it is hardware inside the phone that differs between US and EU 3G?
So if the bands on the specs page of the phone list US bands then it should be good to go?
Not trying to hyjack the thread I am just curious.
i will be getting an HD and droppign the touch pro... i think
bartimeus said:
So what exactly determines if we can get 3G in the US? Is it the radio? I have never quite understood this part.
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As far sas i heard. its the onboard chip that does the differents. HTC said that on some of the old phones, where it got hacked and worked with 3G, hardware was there but not activated. thats why the people here could get it to work. But HTC stated that this is not the case in the HD. THey said that the HD can not be hacked to work with 3G, as it is not possible hardware wise for the HD to recieve 3g signals on the USA network
i believe i said this already once but its more of a matter of just the antennas and if they can recieve the usa 3g bands or not. the actual chipset i know can use the bands its a matter or just enabling them.
I thought the 3g put a 3g icon not the big h? Thats how it shows on my friends tilt. Me i have not had 3g ever since i have used at&t lol cause i had the wizard and now the wing. Does 3g affect call performance or just data, if so i could care less about 3g then. Although i would rather no pay the premium price on the hd buying from europe
AT&T has HSUPA but you have to activate it in the settings.

HD2 on 4G?

I was speaking to a Tmobile rep on the phone who couldn't go into details because of a recorded line, but mentioned that the HD2 can run on the 4G network. He said there are "ways that will not void warranty". He said to just search and I will find it. It was not a hardware limitation, but a software one. Anyone have an idea on this?
Cmon bro, you have over 1300 posts and you think the HD2 is capable of 4G and that it's a software limitation? Secondly, even Tmobile themselves dont even know what 4G is with their subliminal ads, what make you think any of their reps know any better?
HD2 doesn't run on 4G and it's a hardware limitation period
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Cmon bro, you have over 1300 posts and you think the HD2 is capable of 4G and that it's a software limitation? Secondly, even Tmobile themselves dont even know what 4G is with their subliminal ads, what make you think any of their reps know any better?
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What does my post count have to do with what a t-mobile rep says? I merely posted what I was told via a chat with a rep when I questioned him about their 4G service.
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Yes the hd2 is hardware limited to 7.2 Mbs but since hspa+ is backwards compatible T-Mobile's "4g" network will make a difference to you connection... Idk what the Rep you talked to was talking about but frankly he's f.o.s (full of $#!+).. the hardware radio is limitation!!!
Swyped from my Cyanogenmodded HD2
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Yes the hd2 is hardware limited to 7.2 Mbs but since hspa+ is backwards compatible T-Mobile's "4g" network will make a difference to you connection... Idk what the Rep you talked to was talking about but frankly he's f.o.s (full of $#!+).. the hardware radio is limitation!!!
Swyped from my Cyanogenmodded HD2
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Thats what i figured. I know when HSPA came out, it was "labeled as 4G speed" but called HSPA. Maybe that is what he was confused about since now Tmobile is trying to actually have a true 4G network. Who knows. HSPA is good for me now anyway.
after the 3.14 update they'll release one that's 4.0 meaning 4g and the hd2 will then have 4g ....lol
What a douchebag, I hate phoneshops, most of them would tell you everything you want to here, just to let you buy one. When I went for my hd2, I had to buy a display model because there were none left, and the guy behind the desk had one too, an hd2. With a cooked rom. I asked to run the phones init process before taking it home, and it got stuck at sim recognising, we tried multiple simcards, everything failed, that guy was also a douche, he said immediatly, sold is sold. Maybe he tried to customise his hd2 and when it failed, he swapped it with the store display model. Luckely for my another employee overthere said he couldn't make it, if it was up to the first seller, I had to send it to repair,that dumb prick. The other one gave me a cheque to buy it in another store, where I asked the same thing, point is, always try before you buy, and insist, you are customer, and king.
Im not too familiar with all this phone junk... I mean when you guys are saying its a hardware issue, to me it sounds like you guys are saying a Dell c600 oldschool laptop only being able to run on dial up... DSL outta the question... hahaha...
i do believe it is probably a software issue, but i havent researched it much...
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Im not too familiar with all this phone junk... I mean when you guys are saying its a hardware issue, to me it sounds like you guys are saying a Dell c600 oldschool laptop only being able to run on dial up... DSL outta the question... hahaha...
i do believe it is probably a software issue, but i havent researched it much...
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It is not a software issue. If it were, there would be no need for advertising "4G" phones, would there?
daeaevia said:
Im not too familiar with all this phone junk... I mean when you guys are saying its a hardware issue, to me it sounds like you guys are saying a Dell c600 oldschool laptop only being able to run on dial up... DSL outta the question... hahaha...
i do believe it is probably a software issue, but i havent researched it much...
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You have to research that a phone isn't like a laptop, lol...
Even in a smartest of smartphones you can not change the radio module, like adding a modem in the cheapest laptop, different class of gadgets.
HSPA+
squish099 said:
Yes the hd2 is hardware limited to 7.2 Mbs but since hspa+ is backwards compatible T-Mobile's "4g" network will make a difference to you connection... Idk what the Rep you talked to was talking about but frankly he's f.o.s (full of $#!+).. the hardware radio is limitation!!!
Swyped from my Cyanogenmodded HD2
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so did your statement about hspa+ mean that the phone takes full advantage of the bandwidth available in hspa without any software mods?
T-Mobile doesn't even have real 4G. Hell, they don't even hardly have 3G where they say they do, let alone the "largest 4G network in America"
What a load of crap.
No, our totally awesome HD2's will not run 4G speeds, unless you know some sort of black magic or voodoo.
HSPA + uses the same frequency as the 3G one.. so even though its the same AWS band the hardware must be able to reach the Max speed avaible... it would be like having a 1Gig/s line but it only reaching 100mbs since that's the hardware limit... Now in some cases hardware is capable of more but limited by the firmware.. take for instance wimax modules, there capable of LTE but don't have the supported software...
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It is very likely they were referring to 3.5G (H) instead of 4G.
Actually T-Mobile does not really have 4G yet that could be comparable to Verizon for instance... yes, it is fast on Galaxy phones but overall it is just fast fast connection... 3.75G I guess ... however, my HD2 works on 3.5G (H) connection just fine and I am subscribed to 4G 200MB plan for $10...
Will HD2 work on real 4G... cmon man don't make me loose calories by typing what 1300 threads already state... NOT HAPPENING!
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It is not a software issue. If it were, there would be no need for advertising "4G" phones, would there?
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I'm not commenting on whether 4G is possible or not on the HD2, but rather on your comment above.
They advertise Android phones don't they, yet that's possible on the HD2. They advertise WM7 phones, yet the HD2 can do that too. I know a lot of things on the HD2 were said to be impossible and later it was proved possible either through software changes or even just enabling a registry setting. Cell companies limit features of phones all the time by not including certain software or not enabling certain features as a way of differentiating phones. So as far as your comment goes, it means absolutely nothing.
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I'm not commenting on whether 4G is possible or not on the HD2, but rather on your comment above.
They advertise Android phones don't they, yet that's possible on the HD2. They advertise WM7 phones, yet the HD2 can do that too. I know a lot of things on the HD2 were said to be impossible and later it was proved possible either through software changes or even just enabling a registry setting. Cell companies limit features of phones all the time by not including certain software or not enabling certain features as a way of differentiating phones. So as far as your comment goes, it means absolutely nothing.
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Oh really? Look up the details on the QSD8250.
QSD8250: GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA, MBMS
MSM7230 (the FIRST 4G capable processor/radio): GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+, MBMS
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Sweet. I think on my HTC g2 never hit that
HTC HD2 updated .zip rom EVO 4G (not working. no problem...)
Doesn't matter if 4G network not works onto HTC HD2,because when more people buying a 4G phone than they are using 4G network and after few months (maybe) year than 3G is also faster as before. 3G networks can used and functionally better onto internet whitout changed when 3G is full than you automatically down to almost historic G networks. When time is there i sell a new smartphone with 4G,but my old HTC HD2 is ever working (when it rains and not rains). I like this crazy phone. Unbeleaveble
HD2 doesn't run on 4G

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