Hi
I have the following problem: I think the connector of my xda II is broken . It sometimes charges when I put it on the docking or plug it but no activesync connection is possible.
Anyone an idea on how to fix that ?
best regards
these connectors are generaly poor imho
both my charger cables are hit and miss unless i put my case under the cable
making an angel then it usualy charge
my himalaya cradle is much much worse stoped using it alltogether
my old wallaby cradle is the best connection i got
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I was wondering if a Sync and Charge cable for the XDA will work on the XDA II?
I didnt want to try it just in case!!
My bro is managing to use most of his original XDA stuff with his XDA II. However, I have a problem with a Boxwave Minisync'n'charge cable that's supposed to be for the XDA II but I suspect is a rebadged XDA 1 cable - it sync's OK from my laptop but won't charge. However, the cable works with their car charger fine, i.e. it charges the XDA II OK ... strange...
Steve.
I think the XDA II needs slightly higher charging voltage than the XDA I in order to charge. It's a happy coincidence that the 5V USB power is sufficient to charge the XDA I; the approved charger has slightly higher voltage but the USB voltage is close enough to charge the XDA I - it 's known to take longer to charge the XDA I via the USB than with a charger. So that's probably why you can sync but not charge the XDA II with the USB cable.
This is a little confusing as my XDA II charges whilst sitting in the cradle WITHOUT the power supply connected, yet won't charge via the Sync'n'Charge cable from the same USB port... Any thoughts?
Steve.
XDA1 cable can be used to sycnh an XDA2 without any problems. It will also charge the XDA2 battery as long as the XDA2 battery has at least %80 or more charge. I bought a new cable today that charges both XDA2 & XDA1. Don't know what the difference is internally but the shopkeeper tells me its to do with pin configuration on the connector. Hope this helps.
I've just tested an old XDA1 USB sync'n'charge lead (the one supplied by O2) on my XDA II and it's charging nicely! I too have heard that it's to do with a sublte difference in the pin connections...
Time to get the multimeter out I think!
steve.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4330
[email protected] seems to have figured it all out! Great work! Mystery revealed.
Thanks for the pointer - it was indeed the GND connections on pins 2&5 on the XDA II connector that were preventing the USB charging behaviour - I took the XDA I lead apart and the connections weren't there, so I clipped them on the new lead (don't you just love voiding the warranty!) and hey presto, the USB lead now charges!
Now all I need to do is check the lead on my car charing adapter...
Steve
Cool! Pity I bought a new charge/synch cable just today. Oh well, I guess I can still solder my old cable and have two! Thanks for the confirmation.
Sync n Charge Cable
Interesting thread, but I have a question...
I have a mini sync-n-charge cable that syncs fine and charges if the battery on the XDAII is not less that 80% - is that the best I can hope for from a charger off a PC's USB port or do I need to get my soldering iron out? I got the impression from the thred that the soldering iron was to cure a sync-n-charge cable that was not charging at all.
After using the XDA 1 since its release, I managed to get a SPV M1000. many advantages however Video and Camera are not very good !
Problem:
I charge from my sync when my desktop PC is on however as soon as I swich my desktop PC off the USB loses power ? and stops the charging. Is there a setting for this ? or is this normal ? my XDA 1 does charge from the USB when the desktop PC is off !
any ideas please
however Video and Camera are not very good !
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no phone or webcams (cmos chip video )that i've seen is very good quality, suppose thats the price one pay for lower power comsuming and cheap production cost and smaller size
about the xda2 then at least my cradle have a connector where i can plug in the charger adaptor if i want to charge without having my computer on
unless orange use a different cradle which i doubt then you too can plug in that charger if it dident come with the device you can prob buy it or use any charger with the same connctor and power voltage
Im sorted !
Stupid me !
after using the XDA 1 sync for so long, I forgot about the adapter being pugged in to the sync. However the handbook that came with it does not advise on charging so not entirely my stupidity.
thanks anyway
I think it depends on your PC's motherboard too. I have USB power to the cradle all the time, even when the PC is shut down. I don't use the power charger with the cradle ever - it's only for emergencies.
I agree. I have an abit Nf7-s motherboard and the usb port still delivers power when my computer is down
not if you pull the plug it dont
it all comes down to if the vsb 5volts standby
is connected to the usb
when there is an option in the bios to let keyboards turn on ones computer then it should work
if the usb is on a pci card like some of my usb2 cards is then it's up to the card
pretty sure mine dont
bougt a xda2 from ebay,
it works fine but is missing the chargeing unit at the bottom so i can not sync it with the cradle nor charge it, unless i take the battery out and charge it on its own in the cradle, is there any chance this can be fixed,
the actual clip inside is missing so i dont know wether it was soldered on or its a clip and can i get a replacement
any help will be appreciated
also ive tried to sync using bluetooth through active sync but it will not work is this because the initial set up requires the xda to be in the cradle??
Hi There,
I don't quite understand,
Are you saying you don't have the cradle or are you saying there is something wrong with your device?
Are you charging your battery on something other than a cradle?
There is 2 ways to charge an XDA2 in original form
1. Placing it in the cradle and turning the computer on and it charges through the USB. It will not charge if the PC is not turned on i.e. Powered up.
2. Plugging in the charger that connects directly to the machine and plugs into a 220V AC plug socket.
Can you give me a wee bit more info and I will help you out.
I have a spare cradle and a charger and if you need either we can talk business if you need them, but I won't sell you them if you don't need them.
What type of goof sellls an XDA2 without the ability to charge it? If he has ensure you give him some serious negative feedback!!!
Many Thanks
the xda is was bought with all leads and cradle,
i can onkly charge the xda battery in the cradle, as the where the unit sits in the xda that part is missing so it cannot be charged only the batt can be charged every time you wantto use it, i was told you can sync it with ifrared but i dint have infrared only bluetooth
hope that helps
BTW, You can sync with BlueTooth as well.
Are you saying the male plug in the cradle which slides into the female slot in base of the XDA II (when you insert the XDA II into the cradle) is missing?
Sounds like you need to replace the cradle.
A photo of your problem would help us understand.
Ed
I think it must be part of the pda thats missing, otherwise the usb cable would do the job.
the bit in the actual pda is missing and not from the cradle, so i cannot connect to it, i can connet via bluetooth but i cannot use active sync, i think i need to have usb / cradle connectivity intially for set up so i can later on active sync, as i want to load tom tom s/w on there and i cant
I got activesync working over bluetooth but I had to install bluetooth tools to do so, have you tried that?
treid that, but when i try to connect active sync does not see the bluetooth, it doesnt even have the option for bluetooth connectivity on infrered or usb
In my desperation to find a car mount that connects straight into the cigarette lighter so that I don't have to screw/stick one on to the dash, I have been thinking about getting one that's meant for another kind of PDA that hopefully has the same connector as the TyTN.
On Gomadic's site on this page: http://www.gomadic.com/car-auto-mounts-cat.html
they list the HTC: Blue Angel, Falcon, Harrier, Himalaya, Wallaby, Prophet, Apache, Magician, Prodigy, Wizard & Galaxy.
Is anyone sure about whether any of those have the same USB connection as the TyTN? The company makes fantastic mounts which is why I want to get another one from them to replace the one I used for my XDA II.
the power adaptor from the Wizard will work with the TyTN.
Thanks!
I checked this out using pictures from the net and saw it was the same! So I've ordered a suitable holder from Gomadic.
Standard mini-usb, but with an optional extension for their pain in the a$$ audio output/headset. But any mini-usb is fine for power.
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vijay555 said:
Standard mini-usb, but with an optional extension for their pain in the a$$ audio output/headset. But any mini-usb is fine for power.
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Actually, not completely true!
While any mini-USB cable should be fine for ActiveSync/desktop charging, not all DC mini-USB chargers are alike! There is definitely a specific voltage/wiring configuration requirement required for DC charging the TyTN.
Make sure you pick a charger that is compatible with the Wizard or the Universal, and you'll be fine... Others may or may not work!
The mini-usb for charging has extra pins connected to start charging.
Simplest method is to buy a charger that has a normal USB output (anything from 300mA up will do) best to buy a travel one that has interchangable UK/Europe/US mains heads and a 12/24V cigarette lighter adapter.
Chop the cable off your TyTn mains charger close to the power head and fit a standard USB connector to the cable.
Voila! you have a mains/mobile charger that DEFINITLY works mobile...
Hi I'd like to know whats the USB pin layout on the O2 Atom as my mini USB plug fell off and I'm trying to solder it back to gather.
So far i manage to get it charging again but I cant get data through it.
Also I wonder if anyone can tell me how to make a USB charging cable so that i can plug it into the PC and charge without activesync(without using WM5storage, just plug and charge) or I can charge via car charger(I know this can be done with a special adaptor but I'd like to make my own)
Help is very much appreciated Thx.
well i suppose that no one really know about it so if possible for those who already have thier Atoms opened up, take a high ress pic of the USB plug showing the pins and post it for me.
thx
akromatic said:
Hi I'd like to know whats the USB pin layout on the O2 Atom as my mini USB plug fell off and I'm trying to solder it back to gather.
So far i manage to get it charging again but I cant get data through it.
Also I wonder if anyone can tell me how to make a USB charging cable so that i can plug it into the PC and charge without activesync(without using WM5storage, just plug and charge) or I can charge via car charger(I know this can be done with a special adaptor but I'd like to make my own)
Help is very much appreciated Thx.
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Switch off the device (remove battery) and use PC to charge , thats the only way
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Switch off the device (remove battery) and use PC to charge , thats the only way
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actually i have a cable(which came with a universal battery pack) that allows me to do what i want but its in a bad shape hence I'd like to make another.
usb is pretty much usb htc's carry audio too but people report that normal miniusb in 1 end and usb in the other works just fine
and any device connected to usb's 5volt and ground get power even if the pc dont see it as a usb device it still provide 5volt and 0.5amps to them
thats how usb cup wamers and plastic dogs humping the usb port works
See here @ Wikipedia for details on pin-outs