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In the UK looking for a TWO PIN EUROPEAN charger for Wizard

I am in the UK and looking for a two pin euro charger for my phone - if it is packaged with a 12v charger or any other kit i dont really mind, as I could do with an extra car one.
Alternately - I have a 'plug' for a UK socket that instead of having a cable on it has a socket like a car charger at the back, so I can use it with a car charger for any new mobile I get so I have a second mains charger - is there a euro-two pin plg equivalent of this?
Cheers

Any USB charger (there are many varieties) should work fine, so you just have to find a Euro-plugged USB charger then stick the USB cable into the charger.
For example, I have the iPod USB charger with swappable front plugs, which charge my Wizard, Sony Ericsson phone and the iPod.

Exactly, but it is finding a two pin one that is the problem.

Try Expansys. They usually have a wide variety of weird and random plug combinations so you might be lucky there.

alternatively - a bit uglier - get a travel plug converter (just the plug converter, not the big transformers). The charger that came in the box is rated for 100V-240V and ~50Hz-~60Hz - so it'll work in EU, USA, UK, JP - as long as I bring the plug converter so that it'll physically fit

Here.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5818157604&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
£5.99 plus postage. Uses the standard usb cable that came with the device.
I've bought a few things from them - good quality.

pewe said:
Here.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5818157604&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
£5.99 plus postage. Uses the standard usb cable that came with the device.
I've bought a few things from them - good quality.
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By default, the standard USB sync cable will not charge from a cigarette lighter / mains adaptor USB socket, it will only charge via a computer.
If you want to modify the cable so it will charge from a cigarette lighter etc, you need to short pins 4 and 5 of the mini USB end. Do a google search for a diagram etc. Once modified the cable will no longer work as a sync cable.
Richard

By default, the standard USB sync cable will not charge from a cigarette lighter / mains adaptor USB socket
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I am puzzled. I understand what you are saying about the connections, but what puzzles me is I have a GPS receiver that I bought which came with a flexible USB charger and had a cigarette adapter and mains adapter (both US and UK) in the box.
I bought a cradle for my Vario (complete with usb sync cable) so don't need the the usb sync cable supplied with the Vario in the office. So I use it in the car with the USB Cigarette adapter that came with the GPS unit and it charges the Vario in the car with no problem.
I haven't tried it with the USB mains adapter yet, but having seen the above reply will try it tomorrow, but I'm sure it will work because its the cable that should prevent it.

fluffcat1 said:
By default, the standard USB sync cable will not charge from a cigarette lighter / mains adaptor USB socket, it will only charge via a computer.
If you want to modify the cable so it will charge from a cigarette lighter etc, you need to short pins 4 and 5 of the mini USB end. Do a google search for a diagram etc. Once modified the cable will no longer work as a sync cable.
Richard
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I beg to differ. My shiny white Apple iPod USB charger works perfectly as a charger for the Wizard, with the USB cable provided with the phone.
I'm aware that some phones including the Razr and Blackberry are sometimes reported to be picky about the USB chargers, but so far Wizard has no such curiosities.

ZeBoxx said:
alternatively - a bit uglier - get a travel plug converter (just the plug converter, not the big transformers). The charger that came in the box is rated for 100V-240V and ~50Hz-~60Hz - so it'll work in EU, USA, UK, JP - as long as I bring the plug converter so that it'll physically fit
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Not really viable - as often when abroad i just take a rucksack and see where i end up - so ideally everything is light and preferably a cable that is permanently attached to the plug.
Incidentally - there is a company in italy called Wind doing a PAYG sim that offers a gig of data in Italy for 20 euros - so not much use to most here - but if you use it for roaming in europe - they drop it to 20% of that - so 204.8 meg for 20 euros per month - Tmobile charges 1500 and orange 2 grand for the same!

Wizard Car Charger

So I visited my local Walmart and discovered a car charger, designed for Blackberry 6200 through 7500 and Motorola RAZR series phones.
The connector is the same, mini USB B.
$25,000 Question: Can I use this to charge my TMO MDA? Same connection, just worried the voltage or wiring might not be the same.

The AC chargers that came with my Razr and MDA are the same voltage-wise (5V) but not the same Amps.
MDA is 5V 1A, Razr is 5V 0.5A, they are not the same
However, it shouldn't damage the battery, just charge slower.
Just so you know, USB ports output 5V at 0.5A as well.
Edit: Sorry, I realize I completely changed my post, but didn't want incorrect info out there.

Thanks...I figured that, but was just making sure.
I got it in case of emergency...I almost always charge via USB; just leave it plugged in all day.
But you never know.....
Thanks!

fuzzie said:
Thanks...I figured that, but was just making sure.
I got it in case of emergency...I almost always charge via USB; just leave it plugged in all day.
But you never know.....
Thanks!
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Don't expect it to charge if you battery is below 30-20% charge. I'm not sure why this is an issue but it has bitten me in the rear once already.
Does anybody know why it's a problem for "less-than-1amp" chargers to charge back from the low threshold?

boxwave.com sells a 1 amp car charger. It has a USB port, so you just use it with any cable that normally plugs into a USB port. Since my Globalsat GBH-820 BT adapter came with a cable with large USB at one end, and _two_ mini USB at the other end, I can charge the GBH-820 and my 8125 at the same time.

oconnor.jb said:
boxwave.com sells a 1 amp car charger. It has a USB port, so you just use it with any cable that normally plugs into a USB port. Since my Globalsat GBH-820 BT adapter came with a cable with large USB at one end, and _two_ mini USB at the other end, I can charge the GBH-820 and my 8125 at the same time.
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That's not true,... if you use the VersaCharger like I do. This is where I learned of the "charging only" cable that Boxwave sells (how conveinent) and then they sell a Sync/charger for USB only. I have a Boxwave VersaCharger that I can't use without buying their "cable" to make it charge the 8125. I found this out because I have a Belkin retractable sync/charge cable that doesn't work with the VersaCharger as I had hoped. The cable that you have may work with 1amp charger but it probably won't work with theVersaCharger.
What is the output on the "min-usb" connector end of the cable? This sounds like the cable that I need for the 2 devices that I use.
...I wonder if they are putting some electronics in the cable connector...?

I bought the bundle that had a car charger (I have the regular; not the high output; not the Versa) and two mini-Sync (retractable) cables. I got caught by the fact that one of them is "charging only" when I was trying to use the "charging only" cable between my laptop and my TI-84plus calculator. I switched to the mini-USB cable that came with my calculator, and it worked fine, as did my phone with AS. That's when I looked closer at the two mini-sync cables and noticed that one was for "charging only". So, that mini-sync cable (the charging only) stays in the car, and works fine for charging my phone or my GBH-820. The really odd thing is that the "charging only" cable looks "thicker" than the one that works for syncing. Maybe lower gauge wire to help the higher current flow easier.
I have also used my other USB-miniUSB cables with my car adapter. E.g. the cable that came with the phone, the cable that came with my TI-84plus calculator.
My Bluetake headphones came with their own USB cable that has, for lack of any better term, an ultraminiUSB (or some kind of proprietary connector, cause it's not marked with a USB symbol like the other cables) plug at the end. I just plug the regular USB end of that cable into the car charger, and it charges the Bluetake's just fine.

Excellent car charger for Wizard
I have purchased and used the "Ecovell 4x USB" adapter on both a Wizard and a Universal. It provides a 2 Amp output which is equivalent to the AC adapter and works with any mini-USB cable. It will charge a Universal from absolutely dead which I have not been able to do with any other adapter. Here is the link to the item on Yes Depot:
http://www.yesdepot.com/product/ud0520.html
I've ordered from them and the service was OK. I haven't seen the item available anywhere else.
Regards,
Dave

Minis USB connector

On pics the mini usb connector seems diferent like other PDA's like Prohet or Universal (square on one side). This would be not compatible with old light car charge... It is?
Thanks.

I'm still using my old cable from my Wizard to charge at work. The socket itself seems a slightly different shape but supports the regular cables.

The connector is a little bit wider on one side so that one can plug-in the proprietory head-set connector. Any mini-USB connector should fit in, but the head-set will not fit into a standard mini-USB plug...
Daniel

Headset? hummm not hava tipical jack or minijack for headset?
Another problem to resist to buy! Actually I have a Prophet with 4GB SD and only 0,5 free... jejejeje Add no minijack for my car conection...
I cannot understand why not similar connections and peripherics on similar products :roll:

The mini USB AC adapter and cigarette lighter chargfer from my wife's RAZR both work fine on my Cingular 8525.

"USB" connector

I have previously made up very short charging leads to use with earlier PDAs and my Arkon car mount. Having just got the Touch HD I was dismayed to see the "non-standard" USB connector. I cannot find a supplier of plugs to fit these anywhere. There are plenty of cheap car chargers around claiming to fit Touch HD, but I wonder if they do? Do they expect me to use the cable that came with the HD? I don't want to hack that one around. So any ideas? Can I buy a cheap sync cable and modify that? Can I get the plugs I need?

I thought the same thing but it turns out the normal usb plugs fit the HD.

You can just use a normal mini-usb male connector, it fits the same way as in a normal female usb-connector, at least for charging and mounting the phone as harddisk on a pc it works. i think even acticesync should work, 'cause its a normal usb-connection it uses.
greetings
Seth

Well, even activsync will work, at least it work on my HD, you can even flash your HD trough normal USB cable. Check - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneFAQ.
Jakkuz

Wonderful! Many thanks everyone. I already have a car and mains charger with normal mini-usb connectors. Problem solved
I wonder why they made the connector like that?

pastyman said:
Wonderful! Many thanks everyone. I already have a car and mains charger with normal mini-usb connectors. Problem solved
I wonder why they made the connector like that?
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I suspect they were considering some proprietary nonsense at some point

Can I just get a mini to micro usb adapter and use my G1 charger?

Sorry if this seems noobish but if I get one of those cheap little mini usb to micro usb adapters, can I use it to connect my Nexus One to my old G1 wall charger. Is there any difference in voltage or whatever that might damage the new phone?
EDIT: One of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=380195084986&view=all&tid=147583237025

You should be able to do that without any issues whatsoever. Same power output, different plug.

Great, thanks

actually this is incorrect.
the g1 uses htc's proprietary ext usb connector format which is not the same as mini usb.
This means that a micro to mini usb adapter will NOT work on the g1 charger.

dwang said:
actually this is incorrect.
the g1 uses htc's proprietary ext usb connector format which is not the same as mini usb.
This means that a micro to mini usb adapter will NOT work on the g1 charger.
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Sorry, I don't get what you mean? I have connected my G1 with loads of different mini usb cables (Nokia ones, printer ones, the one that came for charging my PS3 controllers) and it seems to work fine. I have also used the G1 charger to charge a bluetooth headset. Seems standard to me

I have the G1 and the N1 and got the micro-USB adapters. They work with the car and wall chargers just fine. I even used the adapter on a cable and charged off a PC. It's fine.

3Shirts said:
Sorry, I don't get what you mean? I have connected my G1 with loads of different mini usb cables (Nokia ones, printer ones, the one that came for charging my PS3 controllers) and it seems to work fine. I have also used the G1 charger to charge a bluetooth headset. Seems standard to me
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A g1 will work with a mini usb cable, but the g1 charger cable is extusb fromat which means those mini to micro usb will not work.
all you have to do is look at a mini usb cable and compare it to the g1 usb cable/charger. The connectors are NOT the same.

dwang said:
actually this is incorrect.
the g1 uses htc's proprietary ext usb connector format which is not the same as mini usb.
This means that a micro to mini usb adapter will NOT work on the g1 charger.
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Early model G1's came with an incorrect charger that was standard usb-mini B so it is possible that you can if you have that charger

student.driver said:
I have the G1 and the N1 and got the micro-USB adapters. They work with the car and wall chargers just fine. I even used the adapter on a cable and charged off a PC. It's fine.
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that wasn't the OP's question.

I thought extusb just had extra pins for audio? Since the connector is physically the same wouldn't the adapter just lack the audio pins and thus not be able to pass those through (not a problem if you just want to charge)?

godsfilth said:
Early model G1's came with an incorrect charger that was standard usb-mini B so it is possible that you can if you have that charger
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Ahh, that explains it. I just looked more closely and I see that the G1 socket is a different shape with only one indent (obviously extusb) but the plug on the charger is indented on both sides (standard mini usb). I guess this is how they extusb is backwards compatible.
In other words, my G1 charger is usb mini B so the adapters will work. Amazingotron
EDIT: This does raise the question, why would they use extusb for the chargers anyway? There is no audio to pass through and since standard mini usb is compatible, it must be cheaper to stick one of those in the box than a proprietary-ended charger.

I have two G1s, and one was a preorder. The wallworts were different but the connector plugs are the same: mini-USB. I use my adapter on my G1 charger.

An adapter should work fine, the US cable and the headphones that came with the G1 had the extusb connector, the charger however was normal mini-USB.

using a microusb works fine for me too even for data transfers to pc.
anyone notice though that the n1 charges REALLY SLOW when it's using the G1 charger? i'm in vegas right now and using my g1 charger w/ a microusb. I left my N1 charger at home. But from about 50%, it took literally around 3 hours to charge back to 100%. The specs for output is [email protected] manufactured by PHIHONG

You can do, up to 1000 mA are allowed