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mini usb extender ?

hi, i am using my universal with tomtom and i would like to hide the cable conecting my universal to cig lighter ? can u people tell me where i can get i mini usb cable extender..cos i wanna connect my cig lighter to extender and then to universal ? please post me links with extenders, cheers, cudo

can anybody helo me with this issue ??

Why don't you buy a 'Y' cable on ebay as its name suggests it plugs into lighter socket and powers your PDA & GPS unit.
Mike

because this is not what I mean..I don't wanna charge my gps and universal at the same time...what I need the extender for is to extend the existing cigi lighter cable so that I can hide it nitly in my car. I need mini usb cablle extender not y cable. any way cheers, cudo

I have not seen any mini-USB type B 5 Pin connectors that are extension cables.
You might try a new cable that has a USB to mini USB 5 pin type B connector that has the length you need connected to a cigarette lighter with a USB output. This is what I use to charge my iPOD (with iPOD cable), Wizard, GPS, and iAudio mp3 player.
Something like this Cigarette lighter to USB:
http://www.semsons.com/unusbcarchar.htm
Something like this for a cable:
http://www.semsons.com/ustomiusb5sy.html
Or for a 10 foot cable:
http://www.buy.com/prod/Pro_Series_USB_2_0_5_Pin_Mini_B_Cable_10_feet/q/loc/101/10319608.html

hi, i have found the way around. just got myself a cig lighter extender
it works like a charm now...no cables hanging around..everything nice and tidy
cudo

TyTN Power Connector - Same As Any Other Pocket PCs?

In my desperation to find a car mount that connects straight into the cigarette lighter so that I don't have to screw/stick one on to the dash, I have been thinking about getting one that's meant for another kind of PDA that hopefully has the same connector as the TyTN.
On Gomadic's site on this page: http://www.gomadic.com/car-auto-mounts-cat.html
they list the HTC: Blue Angel, Falcon, Harrier, Himalaya, Wallaby, Prophet, Apache, Magician, Prodigy, Wizard & Galaxy.
Is anyone sure about whether any of those have the same USB connection as the TyTN? The company makes fantastic mounts which is why I want to get another one from them to replace the one I used for my XDA II.

the power adaptor from the Wizard will work with the TyTN.

Thanks!
I checked this out using pictures from the net and saw it was the same! So I've ordered a suitable holder from Gomadic.

Standard mini-usb, but with an optional extension for their pain in the a$$ audio output/headset. But any mini-usb is fine for power.
V

vijay555 said:
Standard mini-usb, but with an optional extension for their pain in the a$$ audio output/headset. But any mini-usb is fine for power.
V
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Actually, not completely true!
While any mini-USB cable should be fine for ActiveSync/desktop charging, not all DC mini-USB chargers are alike! There is definitely a specific voltage/wiring configuration requirement required for DC charging the TyTN.
Make sure you pick a charger that is compatible with the Wizard or the Universal, and you'll be fine... Others may or may not work!

The mini-usb for charging has extra pins connected to start charging.
Simplest method is to buy a charger that has a normal USB output (anything from 300mA up will do) best to buy a travel one that has interchangable UK/Europe/US mains heads and a 12/24V cigarette lighter adapter.
Chop the cable off your TyTn mains charger close to the power head and fit a standard USB connector to the cable.
Voila! you have a mains/mobile charger that DEFINITLY works mobile...

USB Mini to (the other) USB Mini (?)

I have a a USB mini extension lead, so I'm trying to plug in a 3-to-1 adapter to it. So male USB mini, the a-symetrical type (flat one side) to a female USB mini, the symetrical type (wings on both sides). Obviously this doesn't fit!
So is there a USB Mini (female a-symetrical) to USB mini (male symetrical) adapter?
Or could someone at least tell me their proper names so I can google it?

What are you trying to achieve? If it is to increase the cable length between the 3in1 and the Kaiser, I think you would need an ExtUSB patch lead with all 11 pins wired to retain the functionality of the 3in1. I don't know if these leads even exist.
The Asymetrical female socket, like the one on the base of the Kaiser, is double sided on the internal plastic "island" and has 5 contacts on one side and 6 contacts on the other.
The power and data are on the top 5 connectors.
The audio in/out & talk/end are on the bottom 6 connectors.
This is known as ExtUSB and is peculiar to HTC devices.
The Symetrical plug/socket is standard mini USB and will only ever have power and data connections. The mini USB plug only connects to the top 5 connectors in an ExtUSB socket.

Ouch, my dreams of the perfect in-car system dashed! Thanks wizzard that's really explained it very well.
The objective is to have a nice looking car install with only one wire leading to the Kaiser, and the 3-in-one hidden. So ideally:
Power \/
Audio > 3-in-one >> USB extension >> Kaiser
Hands free /\
It was hard enough finding the mini USB extension, so as you say an ExtUSB extension lead may not even exist

I purchased this adaptor for less than £10 from ebay. It ticks all the boxes for me and is the most discrete adaptor I could find. The 3in1 adaptors like this one dont come with a mic so wont work as a hands free without additional adaptors.
My intention is to have the plug fixed to a Brodit mount. The cable is no thicker than headphone cable. This 90cm cable will route to behind the steering wheel on the cowling. The adaptor is flat and low profile with the answer/hang up button on the top. Easily pressed through the steering wheel spokes. The audio 3.5mm and mini USB leads plug in at right angles to each other but will easily route out of site, behind the dash to USB car charger and 3.5mm MP3 In socket on the head unit.
It all works as expected, and even at Motorway speeds callers can hear me clearly. Voice Command works fine, TomTom and Media Player sound great. My only problem is alternator whine when charging, which I think is just an earthing problem. When I get it all properly finished I will post some photos.
After work, wife, kids etc. have finished with me.

Thanks Wizzard. Not a bad solution, and the best so far without the existence of an ExtUSB extension lead.
My only problem with it is that (I assume) it forces the kaiser into handfree mode even when all I was to do is charge and listen to music from the 3.5mm connection.
Again, I am assuming here, but I thought the second adapter you cite would only initiate hands free when I plug in the hands free into its port. I could be wrong on that one though.
Perhaps my issue is a small price to pay for 8gbs of music in the car

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I thought the second adapter you cite would only initiate hands free when I plug in the hands free into its port.
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I dont have the bulky 3in1 to test, sorry. For me when listening to music and TomTom the audio mutes when I take a call and then resumes seamlessly on hang up without needing to physically touch the Kaiser. I only need to touch the Kaiser to press the Voice Command key once to launch programs and initiate calls.

wizzzard said:
I purchased this adaptor for less than £10 from ebay. It ticks all the boxes for me and is the most discrete adaptor I could find. The 3in1 adaptors like this one dont come with a mic so wont work as a hands free without additional adaptors.
My intention is to have the plug fixed to a Brodit mount. The cable is no thicker than headphone cable. This 90cm cable will route to behind the steering wheel on the cowling. The adaptor is flat and low profile with the answer/hang up button on the top. Easily pressed through the steering wheel spokes. The audio 3.5mm and mini USB leads plug in at right angles to each other but will easily route out of site, behind the dash to USB car charger and 3.5mm MP3 In socket on the head unit.
It all works as expected, and even at Motorway speeds callers can hear me clearly. Voice Command works fine, TomTom and Media Player sound great. My only problem is alternator whine when charging, which I think is just an earthing problem. When I get it all properly finished I will post some photos.
After work, wife, kids etc. have finished with me.
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Hi!
Unfortunately the link to the item you have is broken...
I'm trying exactly what you wanna do, I bought this extension.
Is this the same of you?
It works, but I have annoying noise on audio when it's connected to the USB power jacket.
How to fix this?
Thanks a lot.

3.5mm USB Adapter - No Sound From Headphones

I recently picked up a set of earbuds and a 3.5mm adapter for my Tilt and have not been able to get the sound to play through the headphones... Is this a radio version issue? I'm a bit new to all this. I flashed my phone to the most recent ROM from HTC, installed the keyboard fix and that's about it. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
JM

try flashing another radio...this is usually the culprit with no sounds...

I had this problem. When I plugged in the headphones, sound still came out of the phone speaker. It turned out one of the pins in the usb port was bent. If you get sound from the speaker with them plugged in, that could be your problem.

from my understandings...
There are 2 types of mini usb 3.5 mm headphone jacks. one that pulls form the top row on the mini usb port and one that pulls from the bottom row on the mini usb port. One works with the tilt, the other will not. More than likely you got the one that will not work with the tilt.

dtmcnamara said:
from my understandings...
There are 2 types of mini usb 3.5 mm headphone jacks. one that pulls form the top row on the mini usb port and one that pulls from the bottom row on the mini usb port. One works with the tilt, the other will not. More than likely you got the one that will not work with the tilt.
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The sound comes through the external speaker just fine, I also tried ALL the radios and nothing helped. There are no bent contacts so I guess it is probably that I got the adapter that will not work with the tilt. Does anyone know of a specific manufacturer that makes one that does work with the tilt? I picked this one up off ebay for about .50 cents, no idea who makes it.

I had one adapter with gold plated on the 3.5mm headphone side, the connection to USB was bad. I had to hold it down for it to work properly. I have since bought another one (with L shape USB connector), it works perfectly. Either you need to juggle it to see if it's a connector issue or you simply got the wrong type of adapter.

What kind of adapter is it?
I bought a "OEM" adapter from a website selling Tilt accessories, and it works fine. However, when I picked up a Motorola headphone kit with a USB adapter, it did not work, and the sound would only come out of the speaker.

The Moto compatible adapters do not work. HTC specific adapters are fine. They are also available in 2.5mm if you want to use a cell headset with it instead of bluetooth.

The Kaiser requires an 11 pin usb adapter......I believe the Razr uses a 7 pin? if im correct. That is why you dont have sound....

A cheaper way, ie: FREE! is to make one yourself out of the cheap pair that came with the kaiser!
see this: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack
its for the TyTN 1, but it still works for the Kaiser, its also very fun and great to show off to people

I use a mini-USB adaptor (3.5 mm) from Boxwave and it works great with my Shure SE 110 earphones! The adaptor was around $12.00.

Internal Microphone
When I plug my heaphones in, it seems that the internal microphone (on the phone) is disabled.
Is it possible to hear the sound through the headphones and talk through the phone?
I hate having to unplug the headphones every time someone calls me.

"USB" connector

I have previously made up very short charging leads to use with earlier PDAs and my Arkon car mount. Having just got the Touch HD I was dismayed to see the "non-standard" USB connector. I cannot find a supplier of plugs to fit these anywhere. There are plenty of cheap car chargers around claiming to fit Touch HD, but I wonder if they do? Do they expect me to use the cable that came with the HD? I don't want to hack that one around. So any ideas? Can I buy a cheap sync cable and modify that? Can I get the plugs I need?

I thought the same thing but it turns out the normal usb plugs fit the HD.

You can just use a normal mini-usb male connector, it fits the same way as in a normal female usb-connector, at least for charging and mounting the phone as harddisk on a pc it works. i think even acticesync should work, 'cause its a normal usb-connection it uses.
greetings
Seth

Well, even activsync will work, at least it work on my HD, you can even flash your HD trough normal USB cable. Check - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneFAQ.
Jakkuz

Wonderful! Many thanks everyone. I already have a car and mains charger with normal mini-usb connectors. Problem solved
I wonder why they made the connector like that?

pastyman said:
Wonderful! Many thanks everyone. I already have a car and mains charger with normal mini-usb connectors. Problem solved
I wonder why they made the connector like that?
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I suspect they were considering some proprietary nonsense at some point