I was wondering if a Sync and Charge cable for the XDA will work on the XDA II?
I didnt want to try it just in case!!
My bro is managing to use most of his original XDA stuff with his XDA II. However, I have a problem with a Boxwave Minisync'n'charge cable that's supposed to be for the XDA II but I suspect is a rebadged XDA 1 cable - it sync's OK from my laptop but won't charge. However, the cable works with their car charger fine, i.e. it charges the XDA II OK ... strange...
Steve.
I think the XDA II needs slightly higher charging voltage than the XDA I in order to charge. It's a happy coincidence that the 5V USB power is sufficient to charge the XDA I; the approved charger has slightly higher voltage but the USB voltage is close enough to charge the XDA I - it 's known to take longer to charge the XDA I via the USB than with a charger. So that's probably why you can sync but not charge the XDA II with the USB cable.
This is a little confusing as my XDA II charges whilst sitting in the cradle WITHOUT the power supply connected, yet won't charge via the Sync'n'Charge cable from the same USB port... Any thoughts?
Steve.
XDA1 cable can be used to sycnh an XDA2 without any problems. It will also charge the XDA2 battery as long as the XDA2 battery has at least %80 or more charge. I bought a new cable today that charges both XDA2 & XDA1. Don't know what the difference is internally but the shopkeeper tells me its to do with pin configuration on the connector. Hope this helps.
I've just tested an old XDA1 USB sync'n'charge lead (the one supplied by O2) on my XDA II and it's charging nicely! I too have heard that it's to do with a sublte difference in the pin connections...
Time to get the multimeter out I think!
steve.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4330
[email protected] seems to have figured it all out! Great work! Mystery revealed.
Thanks for the pointer - it was indeed the GND connections on pins 2&5 on the XDA II connector that were preventing the USB charging behaviour - I took the XDA I lead apart and the connections weren't there, so I clipped them on the new lead (don't you just love voiding the warranty!) and hey presto, the USB lead now charges!
Now all I need to do is check the lead on my car charing adapter...
Steve
Cool! Pity I bought a new charge/synch cable just today. Oh well, I guess I can still solder my old cable and have two! Thanks for the confirmation.
Sync n Charge Cable
Interesting thread, but I have a question...
I have a mini sync-n-charge cable that syncs fine and charges if the battery on the XDAII is not less that 80% - is that the best I can hope for from a charger off a PC's USB port or do I need to get my soldering iron out? I got the impression from the thred that the soldering iron was to cure a sync-n-charge cable that was not charging at all.
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Hi anyone can help me here,
I need to know what is the voltage and current for charging a xda2. I am looking at modifying a nokia phone car charger to charge my xda2. From what i have read, it the output 5V and 2A (i took this from the cradle) but can the current be lower than 2A to charge. Thanks.
I do not know how you could do this, but have you tried this?
http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=XDACC
It is a car charger and sync cable in one, so looks like good value..
5-6V, 500 mA should do it.
Just take care you use the correct polarity on the connector.
Car charger for XDA2
Why bother? Standard O2 USB sunc cable is only £12 from eXpansys and will charge the XDA from any powered USB port (eg your laptop/desktop) and you can buy generic cig lighter USB adapters for about £8. No risk, no hassle
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stephen_oliver said:
Why bother? Standard O2 USB sunc cable is only £12 from eXpansys and will charge the XDA from any powered USB port (eg your laptop/desktop) and you can buy generic cig lighter USB adapters for about £8. No risk, no hassle
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Because there are always people who like to experiment.
And why throw something old away if it can be adapted for something new with minimal effort?
Good answer!!
Good answer!!
And you keep £20 in your pocket! 8)
o2xda2 said:
Hi anyone can help me here,
I need to know what is the voltage and current for charging a xda2. I am looking at modifying a nokia phone car charger to charge my xda2. From what i have read, it the output 5V and 2A (i took this from the cradle) but can the current be lower than 2A to charge. Thanks.
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Yes it can. All the old XDA stuff was only 1A. A USB port (powered without external power) is in the region of 500ma.
The only thing with lowering the current is that tha XDA2 is sensetive to discharge.i.e. less than 25% battery power and it wont charge via USB!!
Hope this helps.
Re: Car charger for XDA2
stephen_oliver said:
Why bother? Standard O2 USB sunc cable is only £12 from eXpansys and will charge the XDA from any powered USB port (eg your laptop/desktop) and you can buy generic cig lighter USB adapters for about £8. No risk, no hassle
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Thanks all for the help. I think my only answer to not spending the dollar is more towards wire management. My current charger wire is retractable and when i am not using it, it retracts back and keep the dahboard clean & neat. As i charge my BT and also xda2 in my car, the number of wires sticking out is quite messy. Not sure if all has the same problem but it's just me wanting to be neat.
:roll: :lol:
The only thing with lowering the current is that tha XDA2 is sensetive to discharge.i.e. less than 25% battery power and it wont charge via USB!!
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Hi Pete... Well... i don't think this is the case... pls look at this post
... i've got the solution to the non-charge bug... the XDA II will charge regardless of the battery level...
Best regards,
I have the Seido GPS ready car mount for my old iPAQ 5550. This connected to my iPAQ via a USB connector about 4" long. The Seido gets power from the car adapter.
I'm not expecting the connector to fit my new XDAII, but am wondering whether a XDAII USB autosync cable will still power (ie charge) my XDAII ?
The USB autosync cable i'm thinking of is this...
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108732
Thanks in advance
PS does anyone know how long this cable is? IE 10 inches, 25, or 3-4 inches which would be ideal for me
Looking at the ad I would say the answer is no, it seems to e a sync cable rather than a sync/charge cable. You need the latter.
I bought a seidio powered mount for my xda and when I junked it out (for various reasons) I kept the small USB -> XDA cable. It charges my xda II fine from a cigarette lighter adapter.
I used to have an iPAQ H5555 before moving to the XDA II. Funny thing is that the voltage and current ratings of chargers for both units is the same, the USB dongles even LOOK the same but unfortunately the internal USB connections are different.
I bought a Seidio travel charger kit for my iPAQ and am still waiting on feedback from Seidio if they are going to release a XDA II USB dongle so that I can still use the travel pack.
My Compaq/HP in car charger had a removable USB dongle so I am currently using the dongle that came with my XDA II on the end of my Compaq/HP in car charger and it is working fine.
Ed
Have ordered an 8" USB Sync/Charging cable from Seidio...
https://www.seidio-europe.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SDCU2O2XDA
Should do the trick (fingers xrossed).
Cannot charge xda executive with car charger ,when connected nothing happens light does not go red and also the connection icon does not show
make sure you dont have a faulty charger... dont know what you are using but i believe most people use the cigarette lighter to usb converter and then just use the usb cable... also have you tried pressing the on and off swith with the charger plugged in ?
BR
car charger
Hi and thanks for the fast reply mate <yes it is a new charger from o2 .
No i have not tried the on off with the switch ,but would i still be able to charge when i am using tomtom
Whell....I use the cigarette lighter to usb adapter and usb cable ...at times i have had to quik press the on/off swith and at times plug and unplug the cable to get it to charge ....I used this as a "jump start" method only and no problems after that with using it whillst on charge (even with tomtom)..... other than that you may have a faulty charger or fag lighter to usb adapter (I never seen what a o2 one looks like).
BR
Is the charger one especially for the exec?
I found normal usb chargers for phones like V3 or a GPS charger cant supply enough current to charge an exec.
hi, yeah i have had this problem, and so have a few of my clients, seems that not enough juice flows through the non branded versions, unlike from o2's or Brodits cables
I found that a regular USB cable into a Cigarette Lighter -> USB Socket didn't work until I joined pin 4 to pin 5 on the USB B Mini plug. All of the adapters I had that worked, but only powered (no data, i.e. Brodit and mains adapter) seemed to have pin 4 joined to pin 5 (pin 4 isn't normally connected at all). Once I did that mod it worked fine.
Cheers,
Steve.
bluesign2k said:
Is the charger one especially for the exec?
I found normal usb chargers for phones like V3 or a GPS charger cant supply enough current to charge an exec.
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Orange shops carry a charger intended for HTC manufactured devices (i.e. the SPV C500/M500 range) which works fine. Only £9.99.
Hi, I have small problem with my universal charger. I tried to use another which is auto charger from 0.1A to 1A (standard USB), i try to use normal USB cable with mini usb end. And it is not working, when i used the same cable with computer it is working and charging.
Maybe someone have a mini usb universal connector scheme, how to connect (+5V and -5V) to charge, maybe I have mised something... how many A I need to put on it 1A, 500mA, 550mA ... ???
Thanks ..... Waiting ..... )))
Not sure if it's related, but if you try and use a standard USB cable with one of those cigarette lighter to USB power things it doesn't work. I had to connect pin 4 and 5 of the mini USB together to get it to charge my Exec.
Cheers,
Steve.
Which one is 4 and 5 ??? It is + or - Any scheme ???
Joning 4 and 5 is ok. Thanks ! Topic is closed.
Glad it worked.
Cheers,
Steve.
StevePritchard said:
Not sure if it's related, but if you try and use a standard USB cable with one of those cigarette lighter to USB power things it doesn't work. I had to connect pin 4 and 5 of the mini USB together to get it to charge my Exec.
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I've tried this with the Proporta CL->USB plug and found that if you plug the USB cable in with the Universal switched off, it will start to charge after 10 seconds, I can then switch my Universal on and it will still be externally powered.
Took a few weeks before I worked out the trick of switching it off and waiting for the orange charging light to come on!
I can't seem to find a usb to "whatever it is" wire selling..
is it a standard micro USB port?
leobox1 said:
I can't seem to find a usb to "whatever it is" wire selling..
is it a standard micro USB port?
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yes... u r rite... itz a MICRO USB...
But it can't supply power to a USB device, so it can't be used like a PC USB port. It's only good for recharging and syncing.
so if i want to buy an additional wire, i look for a USB to MICRO USB wire right? no need to buy from HTC right?
cause i saw one usb that is smaller but it doesn't fit.. is there a MINI USB port too?
am confused
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But it can't supply power to a USB device, so it can't be used like a PC USB port. It's only good for recharging and syncing.
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Erm yes it can,
Actually better take the device with you. Sellers here told me there is like 7 different very similar connectors. However this one should be the standard micro USB, which is supposed to be universal charger/sync cable in the future (at least in EU).
And yes, of course, there is mini USB. And there even are more versions of mini USB, for example HTC used their own.
You had better use HTC cables. HD2 is microusb, but not all microusb cables are good for HD2. Like iPhone, it takes a large charging current, and many no brand cables cannot do it. I've got a third party cable that syncs only, but if charged from the PC, the HD2 will say that the charging current is too small. Battery actually drops when I connect HD2 to PC using this cable (because my options set it that backlight is always on when HD2 is connected). Other combinations are OK:
original cable + AC plug: charging OK
original cable + PC: charging OK
third party cable + AC plug: charging OK
third party cable + PC: "insufficient charging current"
Be careful with cables- you'd be better to buy the genuine HTC version.
Many USB/MicroUSB cables are for charging only, and don't have the data pins connected. Thats OK if you just want to charge it while you are away from your main PC or power supply.
You can also buy a miniUSB/MicroUSB adapter for charging using and older miniSUB charger, but again these don't have the data pins connected.
I bought a number of 3rd party USB to microUSB cables a month ago for sync and charging (office, PC, bedside charging), so far so good... no issues (maybe I'm lucky). The OmniaII uses the same connector, so I'm using the HTC car charger to charge both.
I bought Nokia's cable (for E71,N97,etc.) and it work just fine with charging from laptop. much cheaper than HTC in here.
if you are going for the cheapo option...
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=MICRO+USB+SYNC%26+CHARGE+CABLE+for+HTC+HD2+HD+2+Leo+T8585
i got a couple from ebay - arrived the next day. - charge/sync fine.
charger from iPhone
The iPhone charger coud be used for charging HD2. Just plug the microUSB cord instead of iPhones and ... voila. The same outputs
N86-8megapixel cable doesnt work..
So I managed to leave my HTC cable at work (2 days after getting the Telstra HD2 in OZ) and now I am on 4-5 days leave from work and really want to tinker with my phone. I think I may end up having to go back to work to collect the HTC cable - as below... challenge to get non-HTC cable to work.
I found that my wife's N86-8megapixel nokia has a similar micro-usb cable.
When connected to the PC the phone starts charging and the PC does the "doo-doop" sound a "appears" to connect to the phone, but active sync cannot detect the phone \ sync.
I see others have had success with nokia cables - I am wondering if there is something wierd going on.