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Electric Shock !?

I recently bought an official o2 mains charger for my exec. It works exactly as expected, except for one thing!
It's giving me an electric shock! A very mild one, but it's there. The metal part on the top of the exec is getting electrified when charging with the mains charger.
Does anyone else with the mains charger experience this? I only noticed it when I rubbed my finger across it, it felt more "textured" than usual.

DaWolfey said:
I recently bought an official o2 mains charger for my exec. It works exactly as expected, except for one thing!
It's giving me an electric shock! A very mild one, but it's there. The metal part on the top of the exec is getting electrified when charging with the mains charger.
Does anyone else with the mains charger experience this? I only noticed it when I rubbed my finger across it, it felt more "textured" than usual.
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Yes. I thought that was normal?

belfast-biker said:
Yes. I thought that was normal?
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It doesn't seem very normal to me... certainly not what you'd expect at least.

YES. I noticed it the first time i charged it up. I showed it to other people but they couldnt feel it. Now I know I am not alone. I wouldnt have said it was normal, but i have got used to it.
Euan

My m5000 does this too.
The easiest way to feel it is to softly stroke the metal pad on the lid with the case closed. It feels kinda nice, but is definately current.

My JasJar, IIs and my old Xda II also did this. But only those. Perhaps it's not earthed well?

Qtek 9000 has this too

You'll be surprised how many devices have this, actually. However, it shouldn't be of any concern - it's OK'd by law in most countries. Compare it, if you will, to one of those cheap halogen light desklamps ( http://www.lightwindow.com/desklamp/500/halogen/129bl.jpg ). The 12V goes straight through the telescoping metal tubing itself, and if you rub your fingers along one side while holding the other, you'll get the same sensation. That's why they often have a little warning label with them about not hanging any necklaces over them, or it will shortcircuit ( easily tested.. it just sparks a little, but I wouldn't recommend doing it ). The power rating for these lamps is *much* higher than for any pocket device. So although it's not particularly proper (non-conductive tubing with some retractable wires would be better - but oh-so-much more expensive to manufacture), it's part of the design, and nothing to worry about.

i had noticed it, but i didnt know what it was

DaWolfey said:
I recently bought an official o2 mains charger for my exec. It works exactly as expected, except for one thing!
It's giving me an electric shock! A very mild one, but it's there. The metal part on the top of the exec is getting electrified when charging with the mains charger.
Does anyone else with the mains charger experience this? I only noticed it when I rubbed my finger across it, it felt more "textured" than usual.
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Yes, it is true. There is a mild current along the top of the Jasjar.

wow... your first post... I'm honoured

No problem on my unit (Charmer). However, I've experienced this with other devices, an IBM Notebook (X series, bought 2003). It has a rubbery top (not metal), which give you a tickling feeling when you rub it with your sensitive skin (e.g. the skin under of your arm - wrist to elbow, the part where you do not get enough of sun light). I guess it is of a tolerance limit. I mean, if you try that on your VCD DVD player, I bet you will have the same problem too.

well that's certainly cleared that up.
Good to know it's not a faulty Exec.

I think its a "signature" of all HTC devices
I remember playing silly pranks on my xda2, where in i'd fake an incoming call when its plugged into the charger and hand it over to my friend (victim). The look on the face is worth a million! (i'm not sadistic as you're probably thinking right now, atleast not "as much"!)
the faceplate charge leak is really cool! I keep stroking it when i'm jobless. Its i guess a feature in many ways -
1. You dont have to hunt for the charging light indicator, just stroke the plate and you'd know if ur device is charging up
2. The phone call prank - priceless weapon!
3. An excellent window for passing time, stroking harmless current gives me a high! (oh yea, i'm kidding of course!)
All in all, i like the charge leak!
San
PS: Just got back from an extremely long and tiring business trip, hope my post has some relavence to the topic and makes sense in any remote manner

All of the devices which use a Switch mode power supply has it. It isn't a fault rather a design. This reason is that Switch Mode Powersupplies do not have a transformer which isolate the main 110/220 from the output.
You can also experience it if you have a computer with a metal casing (those white boxed computers)
There is however a method to minimize that shock effect. though it might not be possible with three pin adapters. Here we have two pinned adapters so just plugging it in the opposite direction make the shock go away.

ady said:
All of the devices which use a Switch mode power supply has it. It isn't a fault rather a design. This reason is that Switch Mode Powersupplies do not have a transformer which isolate the main 110/220 from the output.
You can also experience it if you have a computer with a metal casing (those white boxed computers)
There is however a method to minimize that shock effect. though it might not be possible with three pin adapters. Here we have two pinned adapters so just plugging it in the opposite direction make the shock go away.
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lol.. I thought since you are writing in bold, it should be something.. good. Anyway, the only thing that I've notice that is right on your post is that, SMPower adapter does not have a transformer.
The isolation of the transformer doesn't stop the device from giving you a shock.
What do you mean by 'white boxed computers'? You mean those normal desktop, huh? I'm not sure about what's going on at your side, but we use 3 pin plugs here, and the 3rd pin is a ground line, which is the effective way of getting rid of electric shocks (e.g. it absorb the 'wild' current to ground, instead to you)
And the most funny thing is your last comment. You can make the shock away by flipping your two pin plug? What is the logic to that? There is a diode-like device in the adapter that will convert the current/voltage of your AC to DC. It doesn't matter how you connect your adapter, it will end up the same somewhere in the adapter way before it touches your device.
Anyway, surprisingly, for someone who doesn't seems to know electricity, you know what Switch Mode Power Supplies

ady said:
... so just plugging it in the opposite direction make the shock go away...
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Rigghhhhtt... That makes a lot of sense (not) :roll:

mdaexecfan said:
ady said:
... so just plugging it in the opposite direction make the shock go away...
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Rigghhhhtt... That makes a lot of sense (not) :roll:
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Come on, maybe he meant the other other way, you know, with the pins pointing into the room rather than into the socket?
I bet that would stop the current leak!

I have no idea about anything electrical... but don't be too hard on ady. He was the one who decrypted bootloader 1.0 for the universal which is very useful to some of us... so he's acutally very smart! At least, he is at programming/hacking.

3.5mm Headphone Adapter for HTC Kaiser

Can anyone reccomend a good cable or are they all basically the same. I have seem some on ebay. I just wanted some advice if anyone knows better.
Thank you.

This one is small and compact;
http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html

I got this one: http://www.pdashop.nl/product/41080/45045/3327/veripart-standard-headset-converter-htc-extusb.html dunno where to get that outside of Netherlands but they gotta have it somewhere...
I aspecially like the very short plug and the very flexible short wire; there 's hardly no chance of breaking this because off too much strain on the plug

The best one I have is the one I made by taking a TyTN's headset with nice angle connector, chopping it off and modifying it as per Matt and Tracy's Blog;
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack

RemE said:
This one is small and compact;
http://www.semsons.com/2miusband3st.html
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I can second this one; Got it originally for my Hermes and it also fits the Kaiser. It's compact, has 3.5mm jack AND Mini USB connector.

I like this one
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=22740
The right angle the cable takes easies my fears of straining the miniUSB port and weaking/loosening the contacts. I don't like the longer, straight-out USB connections on other headphone adapters. Although RemE's Semsons combo miniUSB/3.5mm adapter is pretty cool. I probably would have gotten that if I had known about it earlier.

Here's another, in-stock and cheaper;
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=776

RemE said:
Here's another, in-stock and cheaper;
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=776
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sweet, bought, thanks!

For UK users, I found a right angle one at expansys
Bah, they are out of stock, anyone know where to get a right-angle one in the UK now?

I did find a non-right angle one for 1p though

right angle with a stereo plug/jack make sense ... because when you turn/twist ... the round plug would rotate ... less stress ..etc
but with a mimiUSB/extUSB ... IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL !
when you turn/twist ... that rectangular connection would just twist/turn ... the damage would be the same whether it is right angled or not ..
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UnicornKaz said:
right angle with a stereo plug/jack make sense ... because when you turn/twist ... the round plug would rotate ... less stress ..etc
but with a mimiUSB/extUSB ... IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT ALL !
when you turn/twist ... that rectangular connection would just twist/turn ... the damage would be the same whether it is right angled or not ..
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Except a right angled plug takes stress off the plug because it moves tword your head, as opposed to straight, unless you have the kaiser upside down. If its sideways in the holster, instead of pointing out it points up

I prefer the angle for watching video in landscape mode, the cord goes straight down.
I think it also has less damaging "leverage" on the connector of the phone, I'm less worried about twisting, it's bending I worry about, simply my opinion.

Hi,
What is the audio quality like when connecting one of the above mini usb converters? does it noticeably degrade in any way?

ump001 said:
Hi,
What is the audio quality like when connecting one of the above mini usb converters? does it noticeably degrade in any way?
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This is just wire, no active circuitry, there is no effect on sound.

RemE said:
This is just wire, no active circuitry, there is no effect on sound.
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Technically there has to be an effect on the sound as you have just introduced a connector which has impedance . Whether you can hear the difference is another matter. If the connector is a really, really cheap one then you may be able to hear.

Yah, whatever. Technically the "impedance" of a 1-6 inch piece of wire ain't much, far less than fraction of an ohm which is mouse nuts compared to the impedance of the ear buds speakers, so I'll go with "makes no difference". Quibble away...

Im still partial to the Semsons one since ti would still aloow the phone to be charged simultaneously (like if I was on a long plane ride).

nice, thanks!

exactly what i wanted + cheapest : http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/Enhanced-Mi...ryZ14419QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

Poor Quality Tilt Car Cradle Review

Review of AT&T Tilt GPS Car Mount form JustPal at justpal.com purchased on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...rksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=its=S%2BI%2BSS%2BSD
This is not directed at JustPal other than their typical shipping policy. They do have a generally good record. I did get the same item that was advertised on eBay at other retailers for 10-20 dollars more than their price of 35.99. Other retailers use the same picture so I would imagine it is the same unit. The shipping was $10.95 (now it is $12.65) which was lower than most also. Also their shipping was fast.
Their return policy is similar to others on eBay which is they don't credit shipping so I would have to pay return shipping and new shipping (which has now gone up)and thus the cost is prohibitive to exchange it. Plus I destroyed the packaging opening the item and that would void the return. It would be cheaper to just buy another and have it sent immediately and not have to wait for them to examine the package and perhaps tell me I am not eligible for an exchange. I would be out the return shipping and still pay new (higher) shipping.
My quandary is this: should I chance another one as this may be a fluke of a defect or it may be a trend. Or should I wait for one that is probably twice as much and purchase it from someone with a better shipping and return policy along with hopefully better quality. Perhaps someone else will take the chance on one and it will be ok.
Here are my issues with the Cradle:
1. At first I didn't even think it was going to match up with the USB on the bottom of the Tilt and I was a bit reticent to force it as that is a weak link. I wiggled it quite a bit but it finally slide on with a fair amount of pressure. I had the thought that perhaps the stylus was causing it to be offset a bit so I removed it and it did go on easier but still requires some fiddling with it. It may loosen up a bit in the future with some use but the fit of the cradle is fairly tight which is a good thing. The unit has a label that states CM-A8925 which would indicate that someone thinks it will fit but they must have not tried it.
2. I didn't plan on using he suction cup mount so I didn't try it as I wanted to use the vent mounts because I travel and rent cars frequently. Unfortunately they do not fit very secure in my Toyota Matrix. Others with more and flatter louvers may be better.
3. Now for the REAL PROBLEM; when I first plugged it in there was a noticeable buzz in the speaker. It seemed to change as I opened and closed items and then when I started up TeleNav, which has an icon that resembles a spinning propeller, the speaker "popped" each time the propeller fin rotated. It would appear that there is some type of shielding needed between the speaker and the Tilt. VERY Annoying!!!
4. Well, annoying that was while the speaker lasted!! I unplugged and re-plugged the "hands free" wire (a short wire with a microphone that plugs into the upper unit and the speaker) a couple of times and the speaker quit working altogether. Now I have gone being from annoyed to completely disgruntled. After inspecting the unit it was found that the upper connection was loose and wiggled with the connector plugged in. If I did hold the connection in tight, it would again cause the speaker to work, albeit with the same annoying fizzing and popping. Finally it quit altogether.
5. A "tab" which is used to glue the front and back together on the side with the defective connector is not as smoothly mated with the side piece as the one on the other side.
6. A small clip on the vent mount that is meant to "snug" it up fell off inside the vent and now rattles while I drive.
7. The mount which connects to the base unit and either the vent bracket or the suction cup was very difficult to get on and once on damn near impossible to get off.
That is about it. I guess I don't need to say I would not recommend this to anyone. A $46.46 lesson which I can't say was worth the money just to publish this review. I really expected at least something functional. Oh well, I have a speaker (poor that it is) and a USB connector to play with and see what I can do with them.
Hope this helps others.

what i did to get it to work
Hello i to bought 1 of those mounts not from them but somebody else on ebay. I wanted to use the mounts for the vent too, so when i got it i took it out of the box it looked good so out to the car i went while going down the steps to get outside i heard something hit the floor and it was that little mounting thing that supposed to keep it tight on the vent .. So now at closer look they will not work so i decided to use the suction mount which i think works great , now on to hou i got my tilt to fit the case mine also would noy slide into the usb mount it took me awhile to get it in .... and i was think wow this is not good going to break my phone right off ..
So i took it into my shop and got a dremel tool out and went to work on the inside off the mount on the sides i kept taking a little of both sides untill it slide in easy and perfect now it fits great and i think it will not harm the usb deal.
On to the speaker mine also makes all kinds of noise but it deos work great with tomtom and navmaps if you mess with the wire and get it just perfect the noise will go away i can live with a little noise also when my phone is by my computer at home the noise also comes through my speaker ...
just thought i would add my 2 cents worth if i new what i know now i would of not bought this mount but i did get it to fit perfect after a hour or so with the dremel tool
Al
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Thanks for the tips. If I can get the speaker to work again I will try the shaving trick. I don't think I will try another one of these but wait on someone to try some other vendors.

i bought the oncourse 3 mount for the tilt from buygps.com and it has a FM transmitter built in. I comes with only the suction mount.
It works as advertised. I used this last weekend while driving and found that over all it is a nice product. I was like $40 inluding shipping or something. I like the FM trnasmitter BC i can now listen to my podcasts on my radio rather than using headphones or such.
it definately isnt perfect but it does work.
my 2cents.
http://www.buygpsnow.com/Product/On...andT-Tilt--HTC-P4550TyTN-II--Kaiser__958.aspx
it got it on sale last week.

Hmmmm ... so it arrived broken? Irregardless of what their return policy is, I'm pretty sure they have to replace it or offer a solution unless it is listed as "as-is". I'd check Ebay/PayPal on that. You shouldn't be out the funds to replace an item that was broken to begin with.

I ordered one of these too. How is the charger? I heard the brodit ones fry the device. Does the speaker interfere with bluetooth handsfree?

Hmmm
Had exactly the same problems with a very similar sounding mount. It was very difficult to get it to mate up (too difficult to use regularly), it screamed when I did get it in, then the device went into a soft reset loop like something was permanently pressing in the reset recess.
I shall be returning mine for a refund and I'll wait until they get a new / better batch.
Hmmm.

Just got mine and I have the same problem with the connector not aligned. I think I will swap it for the one with the FM transmitter. I don't need the FM since I have a bluetooth stereo but I can use it in other cars.

New Item I found
well even tho i got mine other 1 to work with the dremel tool i think i will get this 1 instead..
http://www.tiltdepot.com/seidio-g4700x-charging-vechicle-mount/3A78A3465.htm
AL

adidas4275 said:
i bought the oncourse 3 mount for the tilt from buygps.com and it has a FM transmitter built in. I comes with only the suction mount.
It works as advertised. I used this last weekend while driving and found that over all it is a nice product. I was like $40 inluding shipping or something. I like the FM trnasmitter BC i can now listen to my podcasts on my radio rather than using headphones or such.
it definately isnt perfect but it does work.
my 2cents.
http://www.buygpsnow.com/Product/On...andT-Tilt--HTC-P4550TyTN-II--Kaiser__958.aspx
it got it on sale last week.
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I too, bought this same unit. I really like mine. I've had no problems with it.
The only thing that dissapointed me, was that the quality of the sound from the FM broadcast from the unit. It's definately strong and clear, but it sounds muddy. It's not great for music. It works just fine for GPS though.
I use it with TeleNav and I have no issues with it. It's a good, solid unit.
I've not tried connecting the audio via a cable yet, however. I don't have a stereo in my car that accepts input that way. I plan on upgrading though.

G4700x NOT for TILT
NinJak101 said:
well even tho i got mine other 1 to work with the dremel tool i think i will get this 1 instead..
http://www.tiltdepot.com/seidio-g4700x-charging-vechicle-mount/3A78A3465.htm
AL
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I had also considered tht one until I read this:
Hi Nick,
We’re sorry for the confusion. The G4700x car kit for PPC6800 is only compatible to use with the HTC mogul with Sprint and will not compatible to use with Tytn II, Kaiser or Tilt. We’re still working on the Kaiser car kit, but at this we do not have an ETA.
Thank You for contacting Seidio
Kelvin Chung
Technical Specialist
Seidio, Inc.
And I got this response back from Seidio asking to put on a list for when the TILT car kit comes out:
Dear Jim,
Thank you for your inquiry at Seidioonline. We will be happy to assist you with your concern. The car mount will not be coming out any time soon. We do not have a list for those requesting this mount; therefore, the best way to be updated is checking our site www.seidioonline.com
So, I guess we are back to trying various ones that "claim" to work until we find one that does work.

On a side note, one of those sites had this:
*Notice to Drivers in California and Minnesota:
State law prohibits drivers in California and Minnesota from using suction mounts on their windshields while operating motor vehicles. We recommend the use of Arkon AP020 90mm Circular Disc w/ 3M Adhesive [SKU 961] to transform any windshield mount into a console mount. Easy PocketNAV, Inc does not take any responsibility for any fines, penalties, or damages that may be incurred as a result of disregarding this notice. (See California Vehicle Code Section 26708(a); Minnesota Statutes 2005, Section 169.71)
I'm in California, but I think I'd still roll with one of those suction cup ones with the FM transmitter... looks like a quality product.
Ticketz be damned.

Very Good Mount Found on E-Bay
This is my first post, I usually read and try to soak in as much information as I can. I was reading this post and had to contribute;
I recently purchased a mount from GPSLot, an E-Bay store, I opted for the "Buy it Now" at $10.00 + $5.00 shipping I figured I couldn't go wrong. I also purchased a mini USB and 3.5mm Stereo Audio Adapter, which allows you to charge your Tilt II and you have the stereo jack (my Nissan Titan has an input jack in the dash). I received both items in 4 days at $22.00 shipped!
I am very happy with the mount. My truck has a very long dash, so I put the mount on the dash because my windshield is just too far away. It is has 2 different axis' to adjust and the cradle rotates letting you turn your Tilt II on either side or leave it straight up. The phone is held in place by a spring loaded catch that tilts back to let it slide right in. I was afraid it was going to be one of those stiff plastic cradles that put alot of pressure on your device as it is being installed or removed, but that isn't the case.
My wife has a Tom-tom One, and I have a Mio Digiwalker c220, so I have something to compare this mount to. I like the way this one sits and the adjustments much better than either of the actual GPS mounts.
You can browse the store and see what you think,
http://stores.ebay.com/GPSLot
I don't know how long this following link will be good but have a try,
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TyTN-II-Til...ryZ75447QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tilt GPS Cradle from Justpal.com Revisited with GOOD NEWS

MisThis is a follow up to my last review of the GPS Cradle from Justpal.com.
First of all I must give KUDOS to Justpal.com . As I wrote before, I really had no problem with them as far as quick shipping. Their shipping fees were also lower than other vendors with the same model of GPS cradle. I referenced my previous review in the short space that eBay gives you for comments. The folks at Justpal emailed me for a copy of the review which I sent them. Of their own volition they sent me another cradle without charging me any shipping. While I was surprised, I did not anticipate much better performance than the last. I was pleasantly surprised!
Each of the issues which I had with the cradle was resolved with this new cradle. I apparently had received a unit that was produced with multiple defects.
The first issue I had was the fit of the Tilt in the cradle. This one is very good. It is still tight but the connector lined up without undue force or any wiggling of the Tilt to get it aligned. I would say this issue is resolved.
Secondly, since the vent mount brackets didn’t fit well in my Matrix vents, I used the suction cup mount. It is better than I had anticipated and actually allows the arm on the mount, which is covered with a ribbed plastic sleeve, to provide a bit of a cushion to the unit where it rests on the dashboard. It could also be adjusted to allow a landscape view of the road but I prefer to see the long view rather than the wide view of the road. It is slightly more to pack when I travel but not a real problem at all. I would consider this issue resolved also.
Thirdly and the real issue was due to the initial trouble I had with the speaker, I was never able to get the car on the road and drive around before the speaker broke completely. While this one still has some minor bleed thru with the car off and sitting still, there is not the incessant buzz as before and not even noticeable once the car is on and moving. The quality of the speaker is very satisfactory for the speaking voice of the TeleNav GPS. Where I can barely hear the voice from the Tilt speaker with the volume all the way up outside of the cradle, I was able to hear the directions quite clearly thru the built in speaker of the GPS cradle unit with the volume only approximately half way up on the Tilt. I don’t know about music but that is not a concern to me. The connectors are sturdier and they don’t wiggle on this unit. Thusly, the key issue has been resolved.
The only minor issue is that the suction cup mounting bracket still is a bit too snug to get off and on the cradle easily but a couple of passes with a small file resolved that issue and it is still snug but easier to get off and on.
In summary, I am now a “happy camper” and very appreciative of Justpal for taking the chance on sending me a new unit with no commitment on my part to give them a good review. They do have other Tilt desktop charging cradles and other accessories which I will order from them due to their outstanding customer service. I will be purchasing the charging cradle and a set of three of the combo pen and stylus that I have seen on well know sites for substantially more than Justpal charges.
Hope this helps others on their quest for a GPS cradle for their Tilt.

hello i bought 1 too so where do i get the version of this mount ? i would like to check it out ...
AL

you have a link?
their site does not show a cradle

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Here is a link to the item in their eBay store.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-Car-Moun...35193QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262
It's $35.99 with $12.15 shipping which was fast. From the email I got from them this is the newer model that fits better - and the one they resent me does.
Here is the link to the search I did on the Tilt in their store.
http://search.stores.ebay.com/Justp...tpalQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ138177314QQsofpZ0
Hope this helps!

that looks great! I am gonna have to get one of those for my travels....

speaker not as good
Well, I used to have one. I bought it originally for my previous Hermes 8525. It does hold the device securely as it is made specifically for the device. But you cannot rely on the speaker function due to it being too close to the, so will hear static all the time, especially while the phone is charging.

I have one for my old Wizard. It came with an iBT bluetooth GPS for like 10 bucks. It fit great and charged great but the speaker never did work. I just did a chop job on it this week end and turned it into a really nice holder for my tilt. hacked off the crap at the bottom, fitted a usb to a charger, mounted to a vent and it's nice. I Just took some crapy pictures from my web cam to show it off before I realized I've got nowhere to post them. So, you'll have to just trust me, you're jealous.

Is there an audio-out port on the cradle that can be connected to any other speaker source? I cannot tell from the pictures. Thanks!

Just received mine. Kaiser fits securely, speaker works well (with 1 exception below), suction cup works well. 3 complaints if anyone has any idea how to solve them:
1 - Bounces up and down ALOT and is too long! Appears to be an aluminum tube with black plastic cover. Has anyone tried shortening it by a few inches? How does it connect on each end? Did that help with bounce?
2 - Kaiser fits very tight. Can be difficult to get out (but better than having it jump out on it's own). Does is loosen up over time?
3 - When Kaiser is in the cradle some sentences in TomTom get truncated, in particular the one that says "After 400 meters take left turn" now says only "After". Works fine out of cradle but truncates this verbiage while in cradle. Weird.

GGW69 said:
Just received mine. Kaiser fits securely, speaker works well (with 1 exception below), suction cup works well. 3 complaints if anyone has any idea how to solve them:
1 - Bounces up and down ALOT and is too long! Appears to be an aluminum tube with black plastic cover. Has anyone tried shortening it by a few inches? How does it connect on each end? Did that help with bounce?
2 - Kaiser fits very tight. Can be difficult to get out (but better than having it jump out on it's own). Does is loosen up over time?
3 - When Kaiser is in the cradle some sentences in TomTom get truncated, in particular the one that says "After 400 meters take left turn" now says only "After". Works fine out of cradle but truncates this verbiage while in cradle. Weird.
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I have had mine now for a few weeks and still pleased with it. I can comment on the first two.
1. I bent the tube down so that it was tight against the dash and that helped quite a bit. I have a Matrix so the ride is not all that smooth so it still jars some but so does my butt.
2. It does slide in easier after a while. I can now get it out without an extreme amount of effort but it is still snug.
3. Dunno, don't use TomTom. I use Telenav. Just a comment on the two. I have a friend who sometimes brings her TT along and I do like the way that the Telenav announces the streets instead of just the turns. Other models of TT may do that but hers doesn't. (Well, I did comment anyhow on all three)

DIY TF101 Speaker replacement

I am thinking about do-it-yourself (DIY) speaker replacements for the TF101.
I pulled mine out and found the plug connector is part similar to JST 04SUR-32S. It is 0.8mm pitch so the wires have to be thin.
I have found a couple different speakers that fit. The square dimensions must be under 25mm x 11mm (12 might work), and thickness is unsure but must be under 7mm. I also will evaluate round at 11mm diameter.
Examples:
http://www.veco.com.tw/
square speakers
The part number on speakers in the tablet is "tek 1505". I think the 05 stands for 5 ohms, just a guess.
Thoughts or suggestions?

Let us know how it goes.. I have one speaker not working, I might want to try that too.
Thanks

Awesome. I am really looking forward to this. If you find some speakers that perform really good, let us know the specifications. I really would like some better speakers.

really looking forward to this, really would like some bass enhanced speakers...

Old news: Got my speakers pulled, need to test originals on an oscillator.
New news:
Got replacement speakers, but they are a little to big. Will see if they fit next time I open my tablet.
Got replacement plugs for wiring harness, 04SUR-32S. I think it is a match, and will test fit next time I open my tablet.
This morning I made a replacement wiring harness with some top quality AWG 30 wire and a replacement plug (04SUR-32S). The quality of my wire seems better than original, so I might replace the original wiring harness if the original speakers test okay.
I got my plugs from these guys: http://ecommerce.tlcelectronics.com/jst/04SUR-32S
So, I have a few extras (min order 100) - selling some. Recommend a few (5?) because it takes practice to crimp in the wires. Also, I might make a few replacement wiring harnesses - and sell some wiring harnesses instead.
At this point, I am not 100% sure they will fit in the circuit board but they *look* like a match to the original. PM me for info.

Any news on this?
I'm very interested in this too.

I found a supplier of speakers that are the same size as ASUS. So, I asked for a quote & samples over a week ago and I have not heard back. Waiting.
I also have a few varieties both larger & smaller than the standard speakers. In about one week I will be doing more hardware hacking.
Other people's thoughts and work interest me too. Ideas?

Bob Smith42 said:
I found a supplier of speakers that are the same size as ASUS. So, I asked for a quote & samples over a week ago and I have not heard back. Waiting.
I also have a few varieties both larger & smaller than the standard speakers. In about one week I will be doing more hardware hacking.
Other people's thoughts and work interest me too. Ideas?
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I replaced the speakers on my A101 a few months ago. I usually use Digikey for components, but Mouser had a surprising amount of speakers. Have you looked for stock there yet? In my testing, all speakers around this size have a sharp linear falloff under 100Hz, so I focused on getting the highest SPL efficiency, I think I ended up around 96dB/V.
P.S. Why are you bothering with new plugs for the speakers? I usually just desolder the old ones and use their harnesses. Not an attack, just wondering.

How difficult is it to disassemble and reassemble this tablet? I asked the guys over at ifixit if they were going to do a teardown of Transformer but they said they have no plans at this point. Does the battery look DIY if it is ever needed?

just wondering how this is going? i need to replace a speaker due to blowing out 1 of them and not being able to send off under warranty.
frankly dont know enough about this sort of thing to complete on my own but can test and contribute to get this done.
I did find a site with possible replacement speakers, but lost the link so trying to find it again.
anyway ill post when I find it, hope this is still being worked on!

Wondering why you don't look at an enclosure/driver that works....IE the iPad...not the 2.
What did they do that ASus obviously didn't??
The transformer is a consumption device, and by god, as such it had better deliver sight , sound and recording of same with steller results...zsent mine back and returned to my Ipad2 for that very reason.
... hoping the crappy audio I/o will be solved with the next iteration...
I really wanted the Xformer to be a winner
Chas

divvet said:
just wondering how this is going? i need to replace a speaker due to blowing out 1 of them and not being able to send off under warranty.
frankly dont know enough about this sort of thing to complete on my own but can test and contribute to get this done.
I did find a site with possible replacement speakers, but lost the link so trying to find it again.
anyway ill post when I find it, hope this is still being worked on!
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Update: I never got reply from speaker supplier. Could use more suggestions on suppliers. So, I will have to go with what I have found already - 2 sizes slightly off.
Great suggestion hesynergy. I will check out the iPad 2 speakers.
I am still planning to do mod in near future. If someone else wants to attempt you can PM me and I will make you a speaker wiring harness. You can remove the originals and try a second set without damaging originals.
Other distractions at the moment. I got two 4000mAh 7.4v batteries (8000mAh total) that might (should) fit in the dock. I need to disassemble the dock or tablet to measure the power connector so I might do speakers at the same time.
I will post everything when going on ....

found that link..
http://www.speaker-tw.com/manufacturer/speaker/rectanguler%20speaker.htm
admittedly, i haven't measured the speakers yet so dont know if these are anywhere near the size needed.
and also just realised this isnt a uk supplier, but none the less may come in handy.

just emailed asus asking for help. hopefully get a good response

I've been following this thread. I love hardware hacks. Too bad there isn't more of it spread among popular devices. I have to admit, I was hoping to hear a success story like, "I've done it! I integrated the port design from my Bose Wave radio and my Transformer has some b-b-b-bass!"
Till then, i'll keep lurking the progress here.

Hi Guys
I want to replace my speakers as well. The left speaker does not work
I sent my transformer for RMA and they sent it back and again the speaker does not work. On the paper I received they mentioned that they changed a sponge.
I can not be bother to send my transformer back to asus.
Have you found a speaker replacement and the hardness?

well asus responded with very little help. they gave me a list of possible sites to find the part, but none of them had it

My left speaker also doesn't work, but when i squeeze left side it works. So I wonder how difficult is to open device and did anybody succeed in repairing original speaker. I guess resoldering some connection is all it takes.
I am also hoping somebody will find better speakers, but just having both spakers working would be a great improvement for me.

Hi Divvet
Can you share these web sites that you got from Asus?
I think these speakers are really bad quality. I hope Asus to understand that
and to start replacing them with a better quality.
If someone find a good quality speaker and to actually fit I would be interested in
Lets see the results

vlasac said:
My left speaker also doesn't work, but when i squeeze left side it works. So I wonder how difficult is to open device and did anybody succeed in repairing original speaker. I guess resoldering some connection is all it takes.
I am also hoping somebody will find better speakers, but just having both spakers working would be a great improvement for me.
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Mine did the same but eventually it stopped, i took my tab apart and it didnt seem to be the connection itself, i think it was the actual speaker, unfortunately i dont know enough about repairing speakers.
And here you go prince...
www.asusparts.eu
www.notebookrepair.co.uk
www.psaparts.co.uk
www.expansys.com
www.computerbasement.co.uk
http://www.superbattery.co.uk/Asus-laptop-battery/
http://estore.asus.com/shop/category.asp?catid=363
www.replacedirect.com
www.laptopparts.co.uk/ShopByBrand.aspx?BrandDetail=Asus
www.jpcparts.com/m/100/ASUS.html