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Hi all
Just looking for some inspiration or help prior to throwing my 9100 (and probably myself at the same time) off the nearest cliff!
I've read all the threads on getting ActiveSync 4.x to work with WM5 but none have seemed to work for me. My problem isn't establishing a partnership - does that fine - it's just that it takes about 2hrs+ to sync my Wizard with Outlook. All the right elements of AS are given the right permissions on my firewall (even tried it with F/W switched off and still no joy!) - just can't figure out why it's taking so long - there's not that much info to sync - in fact, I could probably key it all in manually quicker!
So, unless anyone can suggest otherwise, I figure I've got a couple of options:
1, wait for MS to release their fixed version at the end of November (assuming they do and assuming it fixes the problem - too many assumptions here to get me excited or hopeful!) or
2, buy a BT dongle for my PC and sync over BT instead of USB. Anyone tried this way of syncing? Does it work well?
Kind of last resort really prior to losing my sanity. BTW, this is the only problem/issue I've got with the Wizard (which isn't really a Wizard fault, more Uncle Bill's fault) - it really is a great convergence device!
Thanks for any help.
is your connection from your 9100 straight into the pc or is it via a hub?
also are you connecting using usb 1.1 or 2.0
I have had delay problems since installing zone alarm, sometimes if i disconect the usb at the k-jam end and re-plug in, it then works straight away.
tired both and makes no difference - at the moment it's straight into the pc using usb cable - the usb slots on pc are usb 2, but not sure what speed the cable that's shipped with 9100 is???
have you got zone alarm installed?
nope - norton internet security 2005 with all the latest updates (same goes for XP SP2, Office 2003 SP2, although I have uninstalled the Outlook Junk e-mail filter)
nope - norton internet security 2005 with all the latest updates (same goes for XP SP2, Office 2003 SP2, although I have uninstalled the Outlook Junk e-mail filter)
got rid of norton, found zone alarm much more user friendly, apart from activesync 4.1.
never had problems with activesync 4.0
have you ever tried using bluetooth to sync with pc? small investment = less headache - no?
Try booting in safe mode and see if that makes a difference. If it does, you have something starting up that is causing a problem. I have seen nortons internet security cause problems in the past. When you connect via usb, it actually assigns an ip address and configures a network connection. Network connections are controlled by firewalls. I had probs connecting and turned of my firewall and it didnt make a difference. It was the firewall that was causing the prob. Once I got it setup correctly, IE ALL exe's in activesync folders allowed full access, it worked fine. I also use bluetooth to sync and it is just about as fast. It is slower when installing programs or transferring files, but syncing is no prob. Hope this helps.
John
www.skynetworks.gotdns.com
thanks for the advice - will probably give bluetooth a try - not over concered about security as there's nothing of real value to anyone else on the device.
thanks for the advice - will probably give bluetooth a try - not over concered about security as there's nothing of real value to anyone else on the device.
Hi, is there a way to get ActiveSync to work via WiFi?
I'm afraid MS has not supported async in 4.0 onwards over wifi
Really stupid move by MS, and I guess they'd be fixing it in the next release.....they better do!
S
As far as I know, we can sync our PPC with desktop via USB, Serial, Infrared and Bluetooth. But, in WM2003 we can do it via WiFi too. Does anybody know how to make PPC with WM5 sysnc via WiFi? :roll:
there is no way to sync with Wifi in WM5.
Thank you very much, dear brain-damadged guy from microsoft, god bless you for removing wifi-sync from activesync 4.x! Btw, AS4.1 doesn't work on my win2k professional, it cannot connect to the prophet via usb. So I cannot sync at all.
I hate f*cking microsoft and their crappy software!
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there is no way to sync with Wifi in WM5.
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How can you be sure that we can't sync with Wifi in WM5? How about later version that will be released in the near future?
Why they (Microsoft) has to remove ability to sync with Wifi out from WM5 (this ability available in WM2003)?
Are there any other ways or utilities to do that?
From what I understand, the option to sync via WiFi was removed from AS 4.0 and up for 'security reasons'. AS 4.2 is now out and now WiFi sync in sight.
I remember reading some ware about some kind of bypass for WiFi syncing but can't find the link right now. Try googling.
Still no WiFi Sync, *sigh*
yeah as is at 4.5 and all development as far as i know have stop'd on the product
so i would not hold my breath
With AS 4.5, there is no WiFi synching, and from reading the AS development teams blog, they took it out for security reasons and are not going to bring it back.
SOLVED: USE USB-RNDIS-LITE FROM SYNCE'S WEBSITE
Now that the wmodem app has been pushed out in favor of 'internet sharing', how can we do this? I notice that the wmodem app still exists on my phone ( ppc 6800) but when i tap to open it nothing happens.
I have been playing around, and getting desperate here, since I seem to be the only one interested. They figured out the iphone in a matter of a week or so!
I was thinking maybe it was possible using the iphone technique by setting up a proxy on the phone and doing it via wifi, but the siftware is missing.
The only hope that I have now is to maybe utilize the program 'synce' to accomplish this. Since I heard pdanet tethers through an activesync connection (which is what synce does), maybe it'd be a matter of a few 'route' and 'iptables' commands.
One other note, my phone is recognized as different things depending on what option I have set in 'connections>usb to pc' with 'advanced network functionality' set to off, the ipaq driver gets loaded and this is how i can use synce. With the box checked it shows up as an eethernet rndis device and cdc_ether and rndis_host modules are loaded. however, when i turn on the internet sharing app it gets recognized as a whole different UNKNOWN device. Im thinking a patch to the right mmodules might fix this, and i'm not using the module usb-rndis-lite because it never worked for me, even though i saw a patch for that module that does just that, make the system recognize it as an ethernet device.
Someone else chime in here, I cant be the only linux enthusiast with a cell phone out there. We dont ALL live in the parents basement
I HAD TO EDIT TO SPECIFY I NEED A USB SOLUTION AND NOT BLUETOOTH
watson540 said:
Now that the wmodem app has been pushed out in favor of 'internet sharing', how can we do this? I notice that the wmodem app still exists on my phone ( ppc 6800) but when i tap to open it nothing happens.
I have been playing around, and getting desperate here, since I seem to be the only one interested. They figured out the iphone in a matter of a week or so!
I was thinking maybe it was possible using the iphone technique by setting up a proxy on the phone and doing it via wifi, but the siftware is missing.
The only hope that I have now is to maybe utilize the program 'synce' to accomplish this. Since I heard pdanet tethers through an activesync connection (which is what synce does), maybe it'd be a matter of a few 'route' and 'iptables' commands.
One other note, my phone is recognized as different things depending on what option I have set in 'connections>usb to pc' with 'advanced network functionality' set to off, the ipaq driver gets loaded and this is how i can use synce. With the box checked it shows up as an eethernet rndis device and cdc_ether and rndis_host modules are loaded. however, when i turn on the internet sharing app it gets recognized as a whole different UNKNOWN device. Im thinking a patch to the right mmodules might fix this, and i'm not using the module usb-rndis-lite because it never worked for me, even though i saw a patch for that module that does just that, make the system recognize it as an ethernet device.
Someone else chime in here, I cant be the only linux enthusiast with a cell phone out there. We dont ALL live in the parents basement
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To quote Sherlock Holmes...."Elementary Watson"...you do a search.
I'll ignore the fact you posted the same thing in multiple places. I'll also ignore the fact you apparently can't be bothered to do a search on "linux internet sharing" and want someone else to do it for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319978&highlight=linux
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318255&highlight=linux+internet+sharing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324632
sorry to say, i've been googling this for weeks and it has eluded me. but thanks for the links, even though you decided to flame me. I'll check them out and report back if they work or not.
P.S. - I dont deny I also posted thisin the titan forum, I posted it here because obviously it gets more views here and it's not just a titan question.
Now lemme go see if any of your links actually work.. )
FIRST EDIT: Maybe I should have specified I need to do this via USB for 1: bluetooth is slower, when tethering to evdo, and 2: i dont have bluetooth.
My bad for not specifying but maybe you can be less snappy to me now. I imagine all your links are for bluetooth, i only checked out the first on so far, but we'll see. Im gonna edit my first post to say USB
watson540 said:
sorry to say, i've been googling this for weeks and it has eluded me. but thanks for the links, even though you decided to flame me. I'll check them out and report back if they work or not.
P.S. - I dont deny I also posted thisin the titan forum, I posted it here because obviously it gets more views here and it's not just a titan question.
Now lemme go see if any of your links actually work.. )
FIRST EDIT: Maybe I should have specified I need to do this via USB for 1: bluetooth is slower, when tethering to evdo, and 2: i dont have bluetooth.
My bad for not specifying but maybe you can be less snappy to me now. I imagine all your links are for bluetooth, i only checked out the first on so far, but we'll see. Im gonna edit my first post to say USB
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Good luck with that..to my knowledge the usb drivers to connect to wm6 under linux don't exist because the usb connection is totally different for usb internet sharing than it was for USB dun. WM6 has not been around long enough for many people under linux to fool with it. The only options I can think of off top of my head is to try to force ndiswrapper into using the drivers that come with activesync 4.5 (that's where you'll have to extract the windows drivers) or run vmware or virtualbox which can both pass usb devices to a vm and have the phone be used by XP inside a vm..then set the linux box to use the xp connection as a gateway..a kludgy hack at best.
While the theoretical top speeds of EVDO do outpace bluetooth none of the articles I've read indicated people in real life situations had been able to GET these speeds from their provider. If you can, more power to you. For my use of edge the $5 bluetooth dongle was alot easier.
I also had an idea to use ndiswrapper as well, wasnt real sure of the drivers to use. I was aware of the internet sharing app changing device id's and it not acting as a modem.
But, as you'll see in my first post, the phone is recognized as a usb rndis device. you can see this by looking at the tail of dmesg. It's just that when you start the internet sharing app, the phone changes its device id again. Also as I already stated, there is a patch for the usb-rndis-lite driver that comes with synce, that supposedly makes the box recognize it as an ethernet device while in internet sharing mode, so maybe its a matter of putting some device id's into cdc_ether.ko or corresponding module.
Another idea, would be to somehow get the wmodem app working on the phone itself, as I said it's still there in wm6, it just wont start. I have also seen in the phines registry plenty of reference to the phone acting as a modem so the framework is still there as well, ITs just a matter of getting the wmodem app going! Probably a registry key somewhere. In fact in the WMODEM registry key itself, the one you use to disable NAI, here is a key called WMODEMDUN, but every time i set it to one from the default zero it changes back. I hate to buy a bt adaptor for only this reason when i know there is an existing solution for usb out there, but yeah you're right..wm6 just hasnt been around long enough
So in short, with wm6 the phone emulates a usb rndis ethernet device instead of modem, it actually shows up as eth1 on my box, but when i start the internet sharing app the device id changes to an unknown one.
Also i wanted to add, I have definitely tether with xp and virtualbox easily, been doing that since i got the phone, so to anyine windering it's possible for sure. would be perfect if i could route that back to the host os.
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I also had an idea to use ndiswrapper as well, wasnt real sure of the drivers to use. I was aware of the internet sharing app changing device id's and it not acting as a modem.
But, as you'll see in my first post, the phone is recognized as a usb rndis device. you can see this by looking at the tail of dmesg. It's just that when you start the internet sharing app, the phone changes its device id again. Also as I already stated, there is a patch for the usb-rndis-lite driver that comes with synce, that supposedly makes the box recognize it as an ethernet device while in internet sharing mode, so maybe its a matter of putting some device id's into cdc_ether.ko or corresponding module.
Another idea, would be to somehow get the wmodem app working on the phone itself, as I said it's still there in wm6, it just wont start. I have also seen in the phines registry plenty of reference to the phone acting as a modem so the framework is still there as well, ITs just a matter of getting the wmodem app going! Probably a registry key somewhere. In fact in the WMODEM registry key itself, the one you use to disable NAI, here is a key called WMODEMDUN, but every time i set it to one from the default zero it changes back. I hate to buy a bt adaptor for only this reason when i know there is an existing solution for usb out there, but yeah you're right..wm6 just hasnt been around long enough
So in short, with wm6 the phone emulates a usb rndis ethernet device instead of modem, it actually shows up as eth1 on my box, but when i start the internet sharing app the device id changes to an unknown one.
Also i wanted to add, I have definitely tether with xp and virtualbox easily, been doing that since i got the phone, so to anyine windering it's possible for sure. would be perfect if i could route that back to the host os.
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You can route it back to the host by running a proxy and/or bridging the interfaces (virtual box.org has instructions on that).
Certain versions of AKU 3.0 and up come with a wmodem app that still has usb and infrared (not bluetooth) in addition to the internet sharing. They may still use the old method and you may be able to use them as a model to get it working on yours. If I remember correctly the NBD wizard rom had both internet sharing and a modem link application like that.
I can tell you this..DON'T try to flash a rom onto your phone using virtualbox.
I might try to route it through virtualbox then, for now. I did try to google that as well but i couldnt think of any defining keywords.
For now, flashing is out of the question,,, because my phone is CID LOCKED? I'm not so sure of the terminology cause i just got into pda's. But I know atm I cant flash anything that isnt signed by htc. Its only a matter of time i'm sure/hope.
In the meantime, hopefully people that are too cheap to buy a bt adaptor such as myself might figure out how to run the wmodem app that exists already on the phone
Hey Fellows,
I have a question.
Is there a way to get the Xperia working with ActiveSync 3.8 instead od 4.5?
The reason why I want to do that is, that the 3.8 does allow wifi and LAN Connections from the Mobile to the Desktop.
I installed the ActiveSync 3.8 but after connecting the Phone I get the message, that the Xperia needs ActiveSync 4.5 or higher in order to Sync .
Now, is there a workaround to get the holw thing to work?
Would be nice, if one has an idea.
Btw.: Here is a link to the 3.8 Version. If somebody wants to try. http://www.hpcfactor.com/support/syncsoft/activesync/#Download
Cheers
Jens
all wm6.0 (i think even 5) devices require activesync 4.5,
they only way is for someone to hack as3.8 to support wm6.