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SD card no longer recognized: how to solve problem?

After exchanging from MMC card to SD card the PPC wants to reformat the SD card (the one with all your programs and back up etc on it [1GB]). The other SD card of 256mb is not recognized at all anymore (so much for all my music). Could there be a connection from the fact that I have had a MMC card inserted before? I already have put back the MMC card to see if some program had not been closed properly. ALthough I fortunately have a recent backup of my 1GB SD card ( but not my 256 mb card) I would prefer to find a more sophisticated solution than to reformat my SD card. Who has a solution for me? Thanks.

Is there a bug between MMC and SD?

SD Card getting corrupted by MDA II !!
Hello,
I have MDA ii since last two months and my device has corrrupted my extreme - 512 SD Card Twice and after corruption it's not even recognized by PPC , USB card reader and my camera.
I have installed omeg a_Red OS. on my MDA ii
Following are the details of my device
ROM Version : 2.0.6.00 WWE
ROM Date : 06/14/2004
Radio Version : 1.18.00
Protcol Version : 1337.38
ExtROM Version : Diamond 1.2 se
Please help

try to open it with card reader. and back up first.

Any luck?
For some unknown reason my XDA IIi no longer reads the SD card!
In about it says "Expansion Slot : In Use", but explorer can't see it!
Any help please?
Loads of pictures and movies on there too.

ross1234 said:
Any luck?
For some unknown reason my XDA IIi no longer reads the SD card!
In about it says "Expansion Slot : In Use", but explorer can't see it!
Any help please?
Loads of pictures and movies on there too.
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have you been able to read your SD card at all. I am having the same problem with my XDAIIi. Cannot read the card on any device or PC.

Yep it worked fine straight away, hence I had "Loads of pictures and movies on there too. "
Does any one know what it going on?

maybe the card is dead
seen it happening to a CF card once all of a surden it just died
and would not work in the digicam sdreader ..,....

Nooooo, is that it then?!?! data none recoverable?
Does this happen often? Should I be able to get my money back? What's the point of having 1 gb of storage if at any moment it disapears with all your info on?!

when it happent with the CF card for the camera it was 100% dead and all data was lost
of cause i cant say for sure if it could be saved or not
but no money was thrown after the project
i mean when soo much time have passed who care who was firing the shots from the grassy nole
and to answer you other question then no it should be pretty rare
that a flash card die seen tests where they put a cam on a bridge and blew it up and found the flash card and it still worked
and also this
http://news.com.com/Lost+at+sea,+found+in+flash+-+page+2/2100-1041_3-5780047-2.html?tag=st.num
but i would try some different SD readers before writting it off as dead
i had exp with some sd readers which sucked
and others my own sandisk 8-1 flash reader had no issues reading the card

That's the route I'm trying, installing card reader on pc.
Cheers.
Expect a post in the near future "SD Card reader not working on XDA IIi"
:twisted:

I am also currently in the same soup. Whe I let the xda2 format the sd, it works alright in xda storing files etc, but not recognised by laptop and it also asks to format it.
Victor

I am giving up on my card. As it was only 2 days old I am returning it and hoping for a replacement. My friend has sent his XDA II back to O2 as it has destroyed 3 SD cards within the space of two weeks. All different makes. My card was a new 512MB high speed card. I had been using an older Sandisk 256MB card with no problems for several months and decided to upgrade. I will try another card that I have - Sandisk 512MB (slow card) and see if that is OK.
O2 have said that this is not a known problem!!! What do they know???

O2 also gave me the same reply!
Idiots.
Their solution was "Take it to a store, and an engineer will look at it"
Yeah right, you mean a dummy who is trained to follow a 10 stage analysis process and tell you at the end "Sorry, I don't know what the problem is, shall we send it back to HTC for analysis?"
My guess is that the handset is not negotiating the operating voltage correctly, and is frying certain cards.
My 512MB + 1GB Toshiba cards fried within 2 weeks of new.
My 256MB Kingston is still going strong after 9 months (touch wood!)
Now almost 90 quid down the drain, and I'm going to try O2 as a last resort!
(Might print this forum too

This has been happening quite a lot recently. I made a post regarding the same happening to my 512mb Kingston card here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25566
Somewhere in that thread are links to THREE other recent threads regarding fried SD cards. I think there is a hardware fault in the device...

Anyway, I seem to remember the seller boasting about some warranty on their site, so I'm going to try to return it...

I just spoke with the supplier... he was very accomodating. This is what he said:
Whilst the Kingtston card is of superior quality to the Viking they are both using Toshiba components and we have had customers experience a similar issue when using either card with the XDAii where it would seem that the device 'kills' the card... I would recommend a Lexar branded xD card for use in the XDAii rather than any Toshiba based card. If you are interested, you could purchase the Lexar card from us and I can issue you with a full refund for your current SD card (including postage) as I feel the Lexar card would be more suitable for your use.
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Sounds more and more like a device problem! Oh oh!

mmm_ok said:
I just spoke with the supplier... he was very accomodating. This is what he said:
Whilst the Kingtston card is of superior quality to the Viking they are both using Toshiba components and we have had customers experience a similar issue when using either card with the XDAii where it would seem that the device 'kills' the card... I would recommend a Lexar branded xD card for use in the XDAii rather than any Toshiba based card. If you are interested, you could purchase the Lexar card from us and I can issue you with a full refund for your current SD card (including postage) as I feel the Lexar card would be more suitable for your use.
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Sounds more and more like a device problem! Oh oh!
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I just had 2 SD cards blow up, a Viking 1GB card and a PNY 512 Mb card. Who is your supplier?

wizard wont read memory card

hello guys & gals, i bought a sandisk 1gb minisd for my wizard this morning, however whenever i put the card in the phone doesnt seem to read it.. any ideas on what one is ment to do? thanks in advanced!

Hi - you did not say which wizard or which rom. Occ they are a bit fussy with the minisd card but if you put it in and out a few times that may do it, check contacts are clean and no fluff in the slot! Check the disk on the pc to see if it will read it and all is well. Some people have had success formatting disk on pc to fat32. If all else fails its a dud and go and get a new one

New Issue With MiniSD

I have a hermes and there i was using a 2 gb sandisk micro sd card for some 5 month...and recently i brought a trinity and then hence im using that micro sd card with a minisd adapter in the trinity...and for last 1 week it worked flawlessly...last night all of a sudden the minisd card disappeared...no sign of storage card like that there has no card inserted...although in the about window it says expention slot in use..but in memory window no storage card installed!! and resco explorer or any other program cant detect the card...
firstly i thought my card is currupted so i inserted it (the micro sd) in my hermes and it worked there without any glitch...even then i formatted it in both fat16 and fat32 in the pc with a card reader but my trinity cant detect the card....
then i thought my mini sd adapter is broken...so i tried the memory card with the minisd adapter in the nokia 6280 and its working there without any probs....and then i tried the 64mb minisd card that came with nokia 6280 in the trinity and WTF my trinity can detect this card and also working with it..that means the card slot of the trinity is ok...
after all of this experiment then i flashed 3 types of rom in the trinity to see if it can detect the card... one is the lsvw edition with gps...(that i was using for a week before this thing happened) then a original htc rom and the dopod australia rom that my set had when i purched it...but all this three rom has same result...can detect 64 mb card (which is nokia oem minisd) but cant detect the 2gb sacdisk (wich is a micro sd to mini sd converted)...
now do anyone have similar kind of problem...or this is a new issue...i dont have any other card to try in this moment.... just ordered a oem 4gb minisd...will get it in next week...
and finally to let you know that my micro sd card is perfectlly working both in hermes and in nokia with the mini sd adapter and i also did a rough test on it with a card reader in computer with the mini sd converted inserted...and no sign of a probs there...
any comment or suggestion would be helpfull...
and a final thing as i brought it in plan from 3 australuia..and im still in that 14 day period...do you thing if i go to a 3 store and told them the setuation will they replace my handset..??i have the dopod australia rom installed so i dont hink they will be able to detect that i had flased other roms...??
Sajib

it does not support anything higher than a 1gb memory card, i have had this problem to with a 2gb card, i have now put a 1gb card and it see's it fine!

Malkav said:
it does not support anything higher than a 1gb memory card, i have had this problem to with a 2gb card, i have now put a 1gb card and it see's it fine!
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Sorry but I disagree. I have been using a standard Sandisk 2GB miniSD for 4 months now without any problem.

i got told it will only support a maximum of a 1gb mini sd?????

Using a 2 GB SanDisk without problems.

I've been using a standard (non SDHC) 4 gb card for 3 months with no major problems. Never had the card 'disappear' completely - only minor file corruption like losing a picture or a ringtone (but it always comes back on soft reset). Only have those types of issues occasionally anyway (like maybe 1 a week - device should be soft reset that often anyway!) Overall, very pleased with the performance of this device.

G'day,
Perhaps you could try formatting the card in the trinity using an OEM tool. My card (1GB Sandisk miniSD) "disappeared" a few weeks ago after using it OK for a month. I used a card reader in my PC to back it up then formatted it using Spb Pocket Plus in the trinity. I was then able to restore the data from the PC using activesync. Worked OK for me and no problems since.
Good luck.

minisd card problem
Dear Customer,
Thanks for your email regarding your P3600.? The issue you describe is something we are aware of and are currently in the process of rectifying.? It seems to be linked in some way to the latest updates to Windows Mobile 5 and as such we have also enlisted Microsoft's help in solving this.? It seems that the device is accessing the memory while it is in an idle state.
We are currently still investigating the matter with the help of our engineers in Taiwan, but in the meantime, to workaround the problem you can set the device to turn itself off after 1 minute in the power options, then let the device turn itself off instead of pressing the power button.
Once we have fixed the problem, I have no doubt it will be released in some sort of ROM update in the near future.
Thank you for your patience in this matter.

Hong Kong's D810 now officially shipped with a 2G miniSD as a gift

Ok,
I also asked HTC europe supoport about the specifications and got an answer per eMail that the P3600 supports mini SD up to 2GB and does NOT support 'ultra' or SD HC-versions.
So perhaps give it a try with a regular (and unfortunately slower) 2GB SD??
S.

A strange developement that i thought better to be share...firstly my 2 gb sandisk micro sd card (converted to mini sd with a adapter) still doesnt work after updating to latest dopod rom and to latest aku 3.3.1 htc rom...setting>memory still says not installed...but if i boot into bootloaded mode and use the trinming.nbh trick to flash my trinity with a nbh file..it does detect the sd card instantly and start flashing without any problem..so it also prove that the sd card slot is ok and it also detect the card in hardware level but it cant recognise in software part...its strange as the same card worked for the 1st 1 week after i brought the d810..!!!!
now does anyone one have more ideas??
and hopefully im getting my topram 4gb card in a days or 2 to test more furthur...in this mean time im really frustated for not able to use tomtom as no space to keep the maps....

sajib said:
A strange developement that i thought better to be share...firstly my 2 gb sandisk micro sd card (converted to mini sd with a adapter) still doesnt work after updating to latest dopod rom and to latest aku 3.3.1 htc rom...setting>memory still says not installed...but if i boot into bootloaded mode and use the trinming.nbh trick to flash my trinity with a nbh file..it does detect the sd card instantly and start flashing without any problem..so it also prove that the sd card slot is ok and it also detect the card in hardware level but it cant recognise in software part...its strange as the same card worked for the 1st 1 week after i brought the d810..!!!!
now does anyone one have more ideas??
and hopefully im getting my topram 4gb card in a days or 2 to test more furthur...in this mean time im really frustated for not able to use tomtom as no space to keep the maps....
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Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196

Yeap i tried that performance tweak in both way increased it to 8196 and also decreased it to 1500 nothing helped..
and sure i did format it with two diffrent card reader and also using some other tools like panasonic sd card formater or hp formatting tools...and just a hour ago i tried pertitioning it into two part 1gb/1gb hermes do recognise the card so do the pc in 2 partition mode but trinity cant detect it even now...
and finally as i told you my trinity detect the 64 mb nokia oem minisd card so i also tried partitioning my micro sd into a single 64 partition to find out if it has something to do with the capacity but same result there...
so im bit of confused here...really confused..
Matterhorn said:
Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196
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sajib said:
Yeap i tried that performance tweak in both way increased it to 8196 and also decreased it to 1500 nothing helped..
and sure i did format it with two diffrent card reader and also using some other tools like panasonic sd card formater or hp formatting tools...and just a hour ago i tried pertitioning it into two part 1gb/1gb hermes do recognise the card so do the pc in 2 partition mode but trinity cant detect it even now...
and finally as i told you my trinity detect the 64 mb nokia oem minisd card so i also tried partitioning my micro sd into a single 64 partition to find out if it has something to do with the capacity but same result there...
so im bit of confused here...really confused..
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It sounds like you've really tried everything. I don't know what else to say , maybe another card will give better luck?

Ok now there i have just got my 4gb topram card and the best of all is my trinity can detect it and show the size as 3970 mb!!!! hey..at last....even though i didnt test it throughly yet (that will be done in next couple of hour) but im happy that the problem i mentioned earlier with 2 gb micro sd card now seems was related to the mini sd card converter or with the card itself atlist not have to deal with the phone warrenty and stuff like that...
thanks to all who tried to help me out..

sajib said:
Ok now there i have just got my 4gb topram card and the best of all is my trinity can detect it and show the size as 3970 mb!!!! hey..at last....even though i didnt test it throughly yet (that will be done in next couple of hour) but im happy that the problem i mentioned earlier with 2 gb micro sd card now seems was related to the mini sd card converter or with the card itself atlist not have to deal with the phone warrenty and stuff like that...
thanks to all who tried to help me out..
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Please let me know if it works fine after a week or so. I'm interested in getting one...
Thanks,

Matterhorn said:
Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196
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Hi to all!
i have just bought a htc p3600, and when i put my 2gb miniSD card in it, he don't recognise it!!!! this card has working perfectly in my "old" QTEK 9100 (last 9month)
i have also verify that in my QTEK 9100 the regystri was:
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:1500[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:1500
i put this values in HTC P3600.... still not regonized. i try whith 8196 but nothing apenned too.....
in anytime, if i put my miniSD in the QTEK 9100, he work's whith no problem....
i already read all this tread, but i can't find the solution to this problem.... maybe i search badly, but can anyone indicate me , if exist, the rigth method to format/resolve this problem.... please help....

hi to all again...
when i'm to format my miniSD in my PC, i can chose the cluster size.... in the tip above, it was referring to change two value to 8196.... but in my PC the cluster size is 8192..... i try whith both value, but still can't get my miniSD recognized....

Matterhorn said:
Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196
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hi, pls cd u link the other tweaks u reccommend?

Ordered a Sandisk 2GB Ultra Mini SD card earlier today..
After reading this perhaps a 1GB would've been a safer bet... Still, worth a try. Would prefer to have the complete EU maps on one card.

No MiniSD card found in explorer

Hi there,
you may think : "not another one with MiniSD card problems !", but I bought my HTC P3600 yesterday with a Kingston 2Gb MiniSD card and it just won't see the card. I have the original, latest WM5 version and didn't try to reformat the card (because I don't have a card reader here) yet, so could that be the problem or is it hardware-related ?
Regards

you can see more info in the memory setting
for sd cards
otherwise it could be a hardware issue had it happen before
with various flash cards
and of cause it could be the phone's sd connector if no minisd cards work :S

It doesn't show anything there, it says "not installed"......couldn't it be the card that only has to be formatted ? Or do you think it is hardware-related ?

just yr luck tt yr kingston 2gb is not recognised by your trinity.
happened to my friend as well.
solved when she got a sandisk instead.

You need tio try one of 2 things
1) Try your card in another device
2) Try another card in your device
If either work OK, it points to the culprit and the solution

my best bet is that the card is dead
happent to a 512MB kindston i had too
1 day it just stop'd working
kinda odd too when they say that sd cards are very resilient
saw a clip where they placed a digicam on a bridge and blew it up
and the sd card still worked
and a cam fell into the sea and washed up and the sd card was still working so they could get the pictures out
but i have many kingston sd cards which work just fine

Well, formatting the card had the desired effect !
It is now found by the P3600 and I was able to install the TomTom maps
I'm glad it worked !!

Broken microSD reader?

Hello guys, i've just bought a vodafone v1605 Hermes, after having a bit of fun with it i've bought a microSDHD 4GB cause i wished to install TomTom...
I've inserted it, and after going on settings/memory or file explorer, i couldn't see the extended memory =(
I've tried shutting down the device and turning it back on... but nothing to do... (i've also tried to remove and insert it several times)
After that i've tested it with the adaptor on my PC and it works! =/
Strange thing...
Than i remembered that somewhere someone was talking about the fact that it's needed WM6 to see microSDHD on the device, so i've installed blacksatin, last radio version and last spl but nothing to do... my device can't see the SD card... =(
Now i'm guessing if it may be possible that my device microSD reader is broken... but i really hope not!
Has someone else had this issue?
Is there something i forgot to do? some setting, or something to flash on the device?
Just to assure that it isn't a microSD reader problem, today i'm going to buy a microSD 256mb, let's hope it will see the extended memory card..
All suggestions are appreciated... Thanks!

I had a similar problem after first buying a micro sd. The cause is from pushing it too far in. The hermes micro sd slot is deeper than the sd card is supposed to be put in (by about 1mm). If you insert it until around half a mm is still pertruding it should be ok.

Thanks for the suggestion OdeeanRDeathshead i've tried also this solution... but nothing to do... =(
Just for curiosity, when i insert the microSD and i'm in memory page, should i see it immediatly if the device recognize it? or i've to reboot or "reload" the page?
Ty!

Ok, yesterday afternoon i went to buy a new microSD 1Gb (great offer, i've paid it 13 euros for a promotion) and it works without any problem... so now i really can't understand why the device can't read the 4Gb...
It is an orginal SanDisk MicroSDHC 4Gb... =/
My only doubt is that the device can't recognize this high capacity SD... =(

Am sure I read elsewhere that you need to format the card in a PC card reader (SDHC capable) and then put it in the phone and format again - or something like that.

crazyC said:
Am sure I read elsewhere that you need to format the card in a PC card reader (SDHC capable) and then put it in the phone and format again - or something like that.
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at this point i think that this is the missing passage...
i'll try this soon and report...
thanks crazyC!

MicroSDHC cards are not compatible with some WM5 ROMS. What ROM are you using?