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MDA Pro locks up unexpectadly!! Anyone else....

MDA Pro locks up unexpectadly!! Anyone else had this experience? My wifes MDA Pro for no apparent reason freezes or lock-up 2 - 3 times a day and then requires a soft-reset to be operational again. I every other aspect, it works perfectly, it's just those damn lock-ups. It results in missed calls etc, as the phone is then out of action and one wouldn't be aware of it until you pick it up to use it.
Have exchanged this phone twice in 2 weeks because of it! I believe it's the ROM, even though when not locked-up, it performs extremely well. I am considering flashing the ROM with the Jasjar Rom, as this is now stable.
Anyone tried and had success in doing this, and if so, how do you find it after the upgrade?

Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.

Re: Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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Hi simba:Thanks for the response.
That's great that you no longer suffer these issues of 'lock-ups', but do you know exactly what .cabs are omitted from install? The reason I ask, is that when you do this process on the jasjar ROM, you loose 3G video calling and the dialler skin. Have you noticed anything like that as yet?
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.

Re: Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
mackaby007 said:
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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Hi simba:Thanks for the response.
That's great that you no longer suffer these issues of 'lock-ups', but do you know exactly what .cabs are omitted from install? The reason I ask, is that when you do this process on the jasjar ROM, you loose 3G video calling and the dialler skin. Have you noticed anything like that as yet?
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
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Unfortunately I can not answer your question. I do not use 3G video calling. Also I did not missed any apps of T-mobile yet. I even noticed that without the extended rom apps, MSN is present on my MDA Pro. Probably when installing the extended rom, it removes MSN.
I have read on the forum that members have succeeded in getting the MDA Pro updated to Jasjar Rom. Be carefull tough, as your are actually 'killing' your MDA Pro and then reviving it.

Re: Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
simba said:
I have read on the forum that members have succeeded in getting the MDA Pro updated to Jasjar Rom. Be carefull tough, as your are actually 'killing' your MDA Pro and then reviving it.
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Please elaborate. 'Killing the MDA Pro'? What just by flashing the ROM? :?
It's important I learn what you mean, because I'm seriously contemplating this exact move, as I'm tired of exchanging my wifes Pro for yet another one!

It's not dangerous. I am a girl and I challenge you to do it.
Anyway, if you need me to send the files that I used for flashing my MDA pro, just tell me, I could send/upload it. I keep it because *someone* (read PM) might need it later.

Re:Here we go!!
dianna_wills said:
It's not dangerous. I am a girl and I challenge you to do it.
Anyway, if you need me to send the files that I used for flashing my MDA pro, just tell me, I could send/upload it. I keep it because *someone* (read PM) might need it later.
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You're on!! :roll: The fact that you're a 'girl' means nothing to me. You're obviously a techie and that makes you one of the guys as far as I'm concerned! Had to say that....my wifes standing over me with a pick-axe :lol: Thanks for your reply. PM'd you back. About to get cracking!! :wink:

I can live with it!!
And there's me thinking it's a simple procedure like upgrading the ROM on the jasjar! Stupid me!
No way am I chancing a patched version of the ROM update and hoping I don't retire my wifes' Pro. I think we'll wait till November and use the t-mobile ROM when it comes out. Thanks all the same diana_wills. You're obviously more than just a techie....you've got bigger nuts than I'll have left if I get this wrong!

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Re: Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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I've done this and noticed there is alot more free RAM too!
One question tho, does anyone know where to get the intelli dialler for WM2K5?

Re: Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
hollinshead said:
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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I've done this and noticed there is alot more free RAM too!
One question tho, does anyone know where to get the intelli dialler for WM2K5?
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Yes there is at least 40MB storage space, but no 3G video calling! What else is missing from the omitted cab installation? I noticed a performance boost as well when not installing the extRom, but without knowing for sure what is left behind, I've had to revert to the full ROM.

There isn't anything missing apart from the t-mobile ****e!
All programs etc are there

Quick tip... I found that If you let the first two cabs install THEN press reset as the third one is loading, you'll have video calling and intellidialler back, but nothing else from the ExtROM. (This is on my JasJar, can't guarantee this'll work on the MDA Pro)
Hope this helps...

Thanks sub69. From my observations of hard resetting the MDA Pro, there seem to be some vital cabs being installed later on in the install, hence my reason for reverting to the full t-mobile ROM.

One thing i noticed by avoiding the cabs install was that my device had no mms support at all, neither in inbox or programs.
Where can you download the t-mobile roms when they are available, is there a site like my-xda ?
Adam

I just updated mine to the JASJAR rom, works mint now!
Has MSN and skype too!
Also you can select network when u set it up, and it installs all mms settings!

My Magician freezes

Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias

Helle again,
As you've got the same problems on rom 1.12 & 1.13 and you got it just for a week I'd say go back and get another one. There are people with simular issues and I guess there are much more users without it, like myself.
So my advice use your warrenty, make a backup of your contacts etc. first with sprite (trial version is available) or AS or whatever, saves you a lot of times. I won't restore the apps just reinstall, maybe it is some combination of a faulty program & with a backup you get that back as well. And it gives you the chance to determine, if possible, what's causing the freeze.
Good luck, M

ok, then thanks again
Today I made a ROM update @ T-Mobile. If that did not the trick (I will look for errors the next days), then I will use my warranty and change the device itself. I hope they don't send it to technical support somewhere, but give me another one instead...
Greetings and thanks for your infos, Matthias

haimat said:
Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias
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Hi,
I have been using my Magician for almost 8-9 months .. moving from ROM version 1.11 to 1.13 WWE BigStorage (radio 1.11 to 1.13 as well).Recently (last 1mth or so) I start to notice that I have a strange problem similiar to you, my 'radio' would 'hang' where I cannot receive or make calls, can't even receive or send SMS. However, my signal (the top bar signal strengh) will still work. This is really fustrating .. because the PDA still works, I won't know when my Magician 'hangs' ... (at least until I try to send SMS or make a call).
I've downgraded to Radio 1.11 & ROM 1.11 ... I'm still facing this problem, but not as often (sometime once in 2 days). The strange thing is that my wife who is using a Magician as well, is facing the same problem (symptom arrise almost the same time together). Both our phone used to be fine.
So far, no luck trying to locate the source of the problem, and I don't think both our magician's hardware got screwed at the same time ... I have a feeling, it has something to do with GPRS ... gut feel ... but cannot confirm.
Anyone face this problem and managed to solve it, I would appreciate any pointers ... Many thanks!
Note : I don't install additional ROM software such as CallerID, etc ... I only use intellidialer.

Hello, you could be right with your GPRS feeling, I have it as well...
Is the LED of your device blinking, when you have one of these freezes?

Hi guys,
Don't know if this gets you on the right track, but a few months ago I had major memory problems with my magician. Thought it was a virus, probably was one or two today plug-ins that consumed all of my memory very rapidly. Think of plug-ins like OO journalbar. Didn't look at the led blinking I just soft-reseted to solved the prob. for a few minutes. Very inconvenience when you're navigating in a car.
Since I ditched these plug-ins eveything is fine, tried them afterwards of course & noticed the memory leaks.
When you're not using anything like those apps. it must be something else. Maybe there's something on the forum.
Cheers, M

I thought about some apps or plugins as problem source too, so I refreshed my device without installing any additional app to it -- no success. So I still have these hangups, even if I have no tool installed...

Sounds like really s..tty problem.
Does the use of gprs or phone functionalities make any difference? what happens when you skip the ext-rom installation (hard-reset & soft-reset just before the customization kicks in) & go for basic WM2003, without all the TMO apps&branding?
M

... tried this allready, but without any difference, device freezes serveral times a day. I would say it's a hardware fault, can't think of another problem source.
Yesterday I spoke with a T-Mobile tech @ T-Mobile support. He told me, he is not aware of this problem and he always had "good" devices. And he updated my ROM to latest version...
Since I still have the problem, I will change my device now and see if this makes any difference!

haimat,
I think exchanging your magician is the best option, the techi might be right in saying he only encountered good ones. Haven't found much error reports like yours, so the rest must be good (look at the bright side). Hope you can trade it directly without any hassle & enjoy your magician for the rest of it's lifetime.
Found some people with a universal with simular probs. didn't read all posts though there were so many. So can't tell you how it ended, it's about a JasJas that hangs and hangs and ...
In the meantime good luck with the change of your device.
Cheers, M

O2 XDA Exec new ROM v1.13.188 for D/L now

The latest XDA Exec System Software is available for you to download. New and changed in this version of software, v1.13.188 are:
Updated O2 Active UI
Disablement of Device Error Logging
http://www.my-xda.com/xdaexec_soft.html
Merry Christmas All!

Just posted the same 5 mins ago but what the hell!
Merry Christmas

@stick, it was your post that prompted me to look at O2's site, thought the new Rom deserved a topic of its own, well spotted stick

Downloaded, but no use at all as there is no Macintosh or from device installer.
Is there a way to install from the device?

To anyone who've upgraded.. Is it worth the trouble? How's the new Active UI? Hate to go through all the trouble and find 0.000000001% gain in performance

Upgrading just now will let you know

Upgrading now too...was half way thru when it go to boot loader mode with ID error
Fortunately I hard reset and insert my sync cable...walla uploading new radio rom now...hope it will be ok else i have to send back to UK...very far for me

buggers... can't uninstall o2 Active UI.
Any ideas ? Tried on the handset and using ActiveSync.

hmmm...finish upgrading...there seem to be a battery bar indicator in today..(BatteryNFO)
less lagg so far..
thats all I can say till I finish instaling my sw.
cheers!

The website asked for imei etc and mobile number. iv got an orange phone i put my imei in and no number got the rom ok.
Used to usal upgrade method to apply the new rom.
Ok lets break it up, what do all the cabs do it make it faster faster i tell u

argh2000 said:
hmmm...finish upgrading...there seem to be a battery bar indicator in today..(BatteryNFO)
less lagg so far..
thats all I can say till I finish instaling my sw.
cheers!
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I had the tray battery icon for about 2mins, now it's disappeared. I seem to recall this happening when I first got my Exec as well. I'd rather have that one than a today screen one...anyone got any ideas?
Cheers
Ant

Anton.Valleyman said:
I had the tray battery icon for about 2mins, now it's disappeared. I seem to recall this happening when I first got my Exec as well. I'd rather have that one than a today screen one...anyone got any ideas?
Cheers
Ant
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That is because it is removed by one of the cab files. I normally removes it myself after upgrading (e.g. imate , qtek or o2 rom). No I do not have to do it manually.

Well, my experience thus far of the new ROM is that screen rotation is much quicker.
I've got pretty much all the same apps on as I did before with the old ROM and I'm quite happy with it thus far.

Feels a bit tighter, generally. That long delay in opening Start menu seems to be gone, for one.
Cheers
Ant

Hi
Have they upgraded the radio version.
Have the resolved the problem of the radio, when it losser signal it does not get it back untill you soft rest or switch the phone to flight mpde then back on then you get a signal is it still the same????????????
Ciao
Gigino

Just done the upgrade, but lost 5-years off my life and some of the remaining hair on my head in the process!
Removed earlier details of problem following complaint of repost-
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Major difference is that o2 have junked their dreadful interface, and the top & bottom blue bands of the o2 Today theme are lighter, but little else appears to have changed/been added. AKU2 is not included.
Current O2 Exec versions are:
ROM: 1.13.82 WWE
ROM Date: 11/30/05
Radio: 1.04.02
Protocol: 42.37.P8
ExtROM: 1.13.188

So are you advising us that if the "error" appears to just let it sit there and just watch?

Is there an Messaging Feature Pack with this ROM?

cktlcmd said:
So are you advising us that if the "error" appears to just let it sit there and just watch?
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This error is very common, nothing to worry about. It is old news. It has been discussed on various threads already. So if any issue just do a search. Advise is always: do not unplug anything or stop the PC. Just re-run the update again. If you are flahing this Exec rom on a non Exec device (e.g. Jasjar, Qtek 9000 or MDA Pro), make sure you use the MAUpgradeUt_NoID.exe. Otherwise you will also get the country code error.
I have flashed my MDA Pro about five times now (with Jasjar Rom, imate, O2) and so far it always succeeds.

Can anyone confirm whether the new rom fixes the GPRS Monitor install problem ?

Wizard rebooting itself

Is it just mine, or has anyone else noticed that their wizard reboots itself every so often? (Usually about once every 2 days or so)
Mine is a T-mobile MDA Vario
ROM Version 1.6.2.4 WWE

Clivectmob said:
Is it just mine, or has anyone else noticed that their wizard reboots itself every so often? (Usually about once every 2 days or so)
Mine is a T-mobile MDA Vario
ROM Version 1.6.2.4 WWE
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yes, i've stopped noticing such problems after upgrading to AKU2 ROM. btw, use http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php next time, this topic has been mentioned few times already...

Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48530. Lots of people have this problem, and several fixes have been suggested. The basic problem seems to occur with some ROM versions when you put in an SD memory card - I'm not sure whether size matters (!?).
I'm going to upgrade my ROM soon, but in the meantime I spent a week testing without any SD card inserted in my Vario and I didn't get a single reboot. Before & after the test I was getting (and still do get) at least 1 reboot a day. To monitor the situation, I used a little program called B_Uptime which automatically logs all resets.
So try taking out your SD card for a few days (if you can) and see if that makes the problem go away, I think you'll find it does.
Andre

mine only reboots itself on days i try to use msn messenger-if i dont launch msn, no reboots :?: :?

This is weird, it has happened to me before. Actually happened on my first replacement a few times one day and then the phone suddenly stop working and wouldn't charge or turn on. Today, it started happening on my second replacement, so I am beggining to get nervous it will die again....
I am using the original tmobile uk rom, so I can run blackberry connect. I do have a minisd card in, but I run a few things off of it, so I can't remove it.

Ok, cheers for all your comments, decided to take the plunge and upgrade to the QTEK 2.17 ROM.
I had a read of these comments and the comments on the other similar thread, and the problem appears to be generic to the T-Mobile ROMS.
By the way, the QTEK ROM is definately better for those that may be tempted. Give it a go.
CID unlock first using lockiwiz 0.2b (or later). Then install the ROM.
Worked for me at least.
ATB Clive.

Once bitten....

I got an Orange SPV M600 a couple of weeks ago. I played around with it and it seemed quite slow and unstable (switching off in standby mode, random resets etc). I knew about XDA developers from when i had an XDA many moons ago, so I thought I would check out some rom upgrades for the SPV.
I tried Jesters 2.2 AKU rom which speeded things up a lot..but still the random resets persisted and were starting to piss me off.
I stuck an standard rom on and wiped the ext rom and restored an orange uk ext rom and bootscreens then rang orange.
They kindly replaced the phone and since then it has been in perfect working order. running really fast and has given me no problems whatsoever.
The moral of the story......if your phone is acting up, resetting and generally being arse..it may not be the rom thats the problem but a hardware fault. The M600 is superb now and although I would like to upgrade the rom to get some of the new features from a higher AKU I am going to restrain my self from doing so as it runs so well now.
On another note, can anyone recommend a good program that provides a proper close button for apps on the spv, so the apps close instead of minimise?

try HTC-X for closing apps

Or Magic Button...

once bitten....
I got HTC-X and this works fine for me. Does anyone have any experience with bluetooth GPS for the SPV M600? I have TomTom on an SD for my old navman PiN 570 and would like to get an external GPS for the M600 so i can use TomTom on it.