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ROM 4.0.0.21 Thoughts

I'm thinking about installing this new one. Has anyone done it? Have any thoughts yet? I'm kind of disappointed they removed AIM from there. Nice to have that in ROM. Saves some storage memory.
Anyway, if anyone has any reports on stability, etc, let's hear it.
Also, does this one come with another radio stack?

seems ok
seems ok for now. no radio in the distribution we got (only nbf ).
from my poin of view it's wiser without aim because i can stick up more content suited to my needs.
no stability problems (though only 8 hours )
Decebal

FYI
The hard reset after bootloader mode has been fixed if you want to count that, its a big plus in my book. 8)

It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.

I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.

GregP74 said:
I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
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Why not just do a full backup, upgrade, and then just do a restore

Restoring from a backup after a ROM upgrade is not a good idea, because the older files will override the newer ones in-turn causing you all kinds of trouble.
HTH

ID64 said:
It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
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Sorry to hear that mine is still holding strong with no hard setting, call me lucky I guess!
BTW anybody else not getting the hard reset after going onto the bootloader?

Hi All, i cooked up a .16 ROM in Jeff's Kitchen (thanks Jeff you are a legend).
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21????? I'm going to wait to upgrade, from what i can see the changes in the .?? releases are vendor apps etc.
Cheers
Steve
PS - i was brave and cooked up an exe install, it worked just fine.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm

Where can I gett xx.21. As far as I can see not through the ROM Kitchen

GregP74 said:
ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
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I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!

cgigate said:
I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
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can you tell me what do you mean by "more" ... i've cooked up a 4.0.0.21 with some apps for myself and had no problems yet ?
Decebal

The problems I've been noticing since this upgrade are slowness, the occasional freezing, and loss of signal (more so than before). I might try re-installing to see if this helps at all.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21?????
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After having no problems since Friday, I noticed the same issues happening to me last night...
The backlight turning off on me while I'm using it...a soft-reset solves it.
Other apps freezing resulting in me to do a soft reset.
I never had these problems w/.16, so I'm considering switching back; however, seeing Ronin's post:
I spent about 3 hours with a Microsoft Windows Mobile developer( from Microsoft) and he explained that our suspicions on Themes and hardware and SD resets are correct.
The versions of our T-Mobile and X2 WM 2003 were provided to T-Mobile in the early part of February. The OEMs worked on their versions to incorporate their unique "features" and there is a conflict in the way WM2003 Phone edition addresses memory calls (to ROM or SD cards)and WM2003 function.
The memory calls are typically made once a Theme switch is made. Remeber themes not only change Today's screen, but all other colors in the apps. Somehow, our WM PE overrides the memory allocation on the SD cards, renaming them and causing our erasures. This will sometimes happen when we get an SMS or have a custom ring or sound profile installed or after a soft reset.
So no solution for the issue other than " the lock" button. The default theme is a good alternative, but I suspect we will still have some more erasures related to this memory addressing issue.
Furthermore, it is unlikely that T-Mobile or other OEMs will fix the issue on their own volition...They are having many challenges with stable stacks and custom builds!!!
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- I might just consider going back to v3.17 w/the ATT Radio stack

strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh

ntabikha said:
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
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I'm with you on the media player AND the slow GPRS...it's r-e-a-l slow. I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning but your account of it confirms it for me.

great!
I updated to 4.0021. T-Mobile device bought in USA. I live in Europe.
Now I have band switcher, good GPRS connection (no breaks), auto-response.
One problem: some web page said me "you cannot open this page because your browser does not use cookies. please...." blablabla
?
I see this meeasge first time, previously PIE did it (shown) ok. I checked settings of PIE, cookies are running. Any ideas?

You know what, I've just done some connection tests at www.texan.net/speed.htm and I'm currently getting the following connection rates:
81.5kbps, 104kbps, 81.6kbps
I get these readings by going to that URL, and in a 10 minute period I would run a test twice at the beginning, then twice again on the 5th minute, and two more times on the 10th minute, using the 2nd reading each time (in order to get the reading with a cleared cache).
- with these speeds (I'm used to similar readings on my other WM2k3 PPCs and connecting via Sprint's CF2031) pages come up so quick, but on my T-Mobile MDA, running WM2k3 v4.00.21, w/RS6.24, plus my new 64MB onboard RAM from PPCTechs.com and 3 bars on the meter, pages are rendering much s-l-o-w-e-r than what they should.
Going back to either 4.00.16 or even 2k2 is starting to look even better right about now.

Since I upgraded to .21 I do not receive all my calls and do not getting some SMS messages.
I'm testing it until friday and if it keeps this way i'm going back this weekend to .16 which was very very stable and I liked very much.

Sloooooooow PPC after ROM update

Since upgrading XDA II to the new ROM I have found even after a hard reset it resonds slower, with a couple of today addons and tomtom3 installed its real slow and I am frequently having to soft reset because it jams.
Any one have any ideas why? Or is having this problem?

After upgrading, did you restore from a backup? The upgrade instructions clearly stated that you're not supposed to do a restore after the upgrade.

I had that as well for a some 30 minutes... gone after that and not seen again...

Nope, didn't restore a back up, only thing i didn't do that was in the install instructions was stop all running programs.
Its been doing it now for couple of days, all ive got on today screen is batt pack, pocket plus, journal bar and ms money - don't know if they have cany compatability probs with xda II, although it did seen v slow even after clean install

scwheeler said:
Nope, didn't restore a back up, only thing i didn't do that was in the install instructions was stop all running programs.
Its been doing it now for couple of days, all ive got on today screen is batt pack, pocket plus, journal bar and ms money - don't know if they have cany compatability probs with xda II, although it did seen v slow even after clean install
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If it continues like that... first thing I would try is getting rid of the Today plug-ins - especially Battery Pack, but better all of them... then do a soft reset and check again...

I had the same problem - I found that when I didn't use Mobitools 2.5 ( a program manager thing) it seemed to work OK.
Don't know if there is somthing in the WM2003 SP1 that doesn't like certain programs (or programming techniques).

imate jasjar hangs and hangs and hangs...

my imat jasjar with the latest rom (1.13.53) and latest radio(1.04.02) sometimes freezes 10 times a day, forcing me to soft reset (sometimes 3 or 4 times in a row) before it works again...i have tried everything from upgrading the rom, hardressetting, changing memorycards, leaving the device on instead of automaticly turning of....nothing works..
the worst is when i stop using it and put it on charge during the night, it does not wake up in the morning...i have to softreset everytime and all calls and sms that came in during that time where not received...can anybody relate to this problem, or am i alone in this....i really like the device, but missing my calls and resetting ten times a day, makes me wonder if i should go back to my trusted magician...maybe a rom from another device (o2,mda,qtek) would be a solution ?
any help is welcome

I'd get it replaced as it shouldn't be doing that. I've not had a single hang on my XDA Exec since I got it nearly a month ago.
Ant

Anton.Valleyman said:
I'd get it replaced as it shouldn't be doing that. I've not had a single hang on my XDA Exec since I got it nearly a month ago.
Ant
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do you really think it is a hardware problem....i find it more to be a software problem...and i would not like to be without my device for 1,2,3 or even more weeks...anybody know if the qtek 9000 rom is available somewhere...having had a qtek 2020,9090 and s100 and also tried a few mda's and imate's, i find these to be the best roms in general

@jesax, I had a JJ and I used all the features (inc. video calling and UMTS downloads) but only had a freeze with SMS notifications and downloading emails over UMTS. You device could have a hardware problem. The other possibility is the ROM is corrupted so you should try to download a new copy.

mine randomly hangs when using Agile Messenger. Stable the rest of the time.
Planning a hard reset shortly, will see if this fixes it.

in my case a hard reset does not change anything...i have done three and have changed to the latest rom...no dice
does anybody know where i can find the original jasjar rom or a good working english rom to try out or do a downgrade...
i am reaching in the dark here....

@jesax, did you download a fresh ROM from clubimate? Your original ROM could be corrupted

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@jesax, did you download a fresh ROM from clubimate? Your original ROM could be corrupted
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yes, i downloaded the latest rom from the imate site...no go...still the same problems...i first tought it was a charging problem, as it happens every morning when i take it from the charger....i now left the jasjar untouched for a few hours in closed position without the charger, and when i opened it up, it froze again, leading to a softreset.....HEEEEELLLP

@Jesax,
If I were you, I would have falshed the ROM again to my device as I think there is some kind of corruption to your installed ROM.
To get the latest ROM version go to this site :
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Universal/
If it does not open, just go to this site and you can open it from there:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
You can get it also from this site:
http://www.clubimate.com/t-DEVICE_JASJAR_UPD.aspx
But your device must be registered to axcess to this site.
Flash the ROM to your device and try to use it without up-grading the radio version to 1.04.02..... if you experience the same problem so it's definately a hardware problem and in this case you have to give it back, but I think it will work properly "I hope".
If you don't experience the same problem again, it might be either a problem with the radio version or a problem with any of the softwares installed on your device.
By the way, can we know which softwares are installed on your device at the time being??
Please let me know the result.
Regards,

jesax, okay. So you have downloaded the new ROM at least twice now from the clubimate site therefore we can assume the ROM is okay. Also please confirm that you are not using any third-party apps. Are you using a 3G or standard GMS SIM. Try turning off the radio functions (Fn+->) and see if the freezing stops.

Jesax,
Are you using spb pocket plus or any similar software??

khaledelfeki said:
@Jesax,
By the way, can we know which softwares are installed on your device at the time being??
Please let me know the result.
Regards,
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thanx, i give it a try but am getting fed up with spending hours behind the computer resetting this thing...
the software i am running are :
resco file explorer
gpspocketmagic
launcher
tomtom 5.1 installed, working but like to freez up also when in use
tweaks2k2
that's about it
i do not use 3g but do use gprs...it was switched to "always on" with the reg hack, but i turned it back (you never know)
i will have a try when i com home this evening to turn of radio function, and charge it overnight (how do i do this, without taking out the sim )

on the wiki ftp site i see there is a 02 xda exec rom i can dowload.
can anyone recommebd this ?
should i give it a try instead of the jasjar rom, and will it install as easily as the jasjar, or will it ask for id's and codes?
thanx guys

@ Jesax,
Before flashing the ROM again to your device just un-install tomtom 5.1 and pocketmajic and see the result "you can use majic button instead" .... if it does the same, you will have no option but flashing.
Don't get fed up...... your problem will be solved, the Jasjar is a wonderful device and you will enjoy it once your problem is solved.
Regards,

should i give it a try instead of the jasjar rom, and will it install as easily as the jasjar, or will it ask for id's and codes?
thanx guys[/quote]
I wouldn't advise you to do that.
There is nothing wrong with the jasjar ROM.... and it's the most popular.
Regards,

jesax, as I said in my previous post, you can switch off the radio using the following keys on your JJ "Fn" + "->" and select the All Off option.
Also remove all third-party apps and see if stability improves. If it does add one app at a time back to see which one is causing the stability issue.
The XDA ROM only requires a code for the Coroprate option (code is 0506), the Corporate option is the best to choose at it has no O2 additions.

khaledelfeki said:
@ Jesax,
Before flashing the ROM again to your device just un-install tomtom 5.1 and pocketmajic and see the result "you can use majic button instead" .... if it does the same, you will have no option but flashing.
Don't get fed up...... your problem will be solved, the Jasjar is a wonderful device and you will enjoy it once your problem is solved.
Regards,
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thanx...i don't think tomtom5.1 is the problem, as i was having this problem before the install of tomtom...pocketmagic i can't remember when i put it on (so many resets, so many....)
i will give it a go
what's annoying is that it does not happen on steady intervals...it can freeze up twice in a minute, and then work fine for ten hours.

jah said:
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The XDA ROM only requires a code for the Coroprate option (code is 0506), the Corporate option is the best to choose at it has no O2 additions.
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would you recommend me trying it, or is the jasjar rom actually better...i don't want to spend another few hours flashing the o2 rom, if it is no use

another question...maybe related...
i have noticed that when i open up my jasjar from fully closed to "laptop" mode, the backlight does not come on everytime...sometimes it does, sometimes i have to push the "on button" to light up...
my backlight is set to go out on batterypower after 30 seconds, and to stay on with external power.
the powersettings are : turn off after 1 minute on battery power and stay on with external power

@ jesax,
Most probably your ROM is corrupted.... in this case a hard reset will not work, but a fresh flashing to the ROM will be the best solution.
Regards,

New O2 Exec ROM version 1.13.82 WWE

Just received a replacement for my faulty O2 Exec and it's got a new ROM version:
ROM: 1.13.82 WWE
ROM date: 30/11/05
Radio: 1.04.02
Protocol: 42.37.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.188 WWE
Only difference I've noticed so far is that the Personal install option has been dropped.

GREAT NEWS !!!!
Me wanna get it!

cool...
so how is it? better than ever before? ;o)))
no, seriously. is it any better?
thanx
buzz

Does it have the Blackberry WM5 Client?

Obviously, everyone is keen to know the differences/improvements/mess ups, so post up as soon as you notice anything!!
How about the bluetooth switching itself off, that should be easy to test?

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cool...
so how is it? better than ever before? ;o)))
no, seriously. is it any better?
thanx
buzz
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Buzz .. any chance for some dump ?

I presume that updating the ROM means that you lose all your data and basically have to start from scratch??

Updating the ROM would be like a hard reset, so you'd lose anything that wasn't backed up or on the storage card.
1 other difference in the ROM I've noticed it in the couple of hours I've had it: Error reporting and incoming beams are both turned off by default (not exactly a big deal, I know).
I've no idea if it has a blackberry client. How would I tell?
I've no need for bluetooth yet since the wife's got Tom Tom 5 under wraps until Christmas, but I've switched it on and will report back in 24 hours to see if it's switched itself off or not!

Start dreaming up your wishlist for this update Less memory leaks, less freezes on SMS receipt, less notification queue problems, less SD card problems, push email, blackberry software, stereo bluetooth... anything else?

LOL, true true - just sold my XDA2s on EBay (sadly for only £165) and I'm missing it already, just the speed, efficiency and streamlined operation is far superior to the Exec AT THE MOMENT.
I also think its ridiculous that you lose EVERYTHING when rom upgrading, imagine if upgrading to Windows Vista mean't you lost your personal data? It simply wouldn't happen so why do they believe PocketPC users should have to?

Hi Moandal, could you tell me if when you right an email from the keyboard and press the "tab" button, does it actually jump from "from" to the "message" ?
:lol:

jeux have you tried using the DOWN ARROW button?

yeah, I tried no luck, couple of other guys in another threat got that issue and I did hard reset the phone still no luck.

Back after a while away from XDA's - Anyhow, I've had the XDA exec a week and after many freeeeeeeze ups i decided to change it. Went into O2 in Bristol today and they almost admitted that the exec's had a known issue! The guy told me a 'NEW' batch had arrived today and they had been told that they should be a much more stable unit.
Gone is the personal install option and the battery bar is now on the today screen. The unit has opperated all day with no lock ups and the screen refresh when changing aspect is almost instant!!! (i've got all the same apps running so it is a level playing field)
Not much eles is obvious, but like i said it just runs much better - if any of you out ther are still within O2's exchange period then i would get one from the 'New' batch.
I'll report more when i've had a good play around

Widhill, is the new batch a software/rom update only? Or were there hardware issues with the old batch?
I guess I doubt they would tell you that much detail.

Jeux_1: Sorry I can't answer the e-mail question since I've not got e-mail set up on my Exec yet.
I've had bluetooth switched on for almost 24 hours now and it's still not switched itself off (although I haven't actually used the bluetooth). I'm not sure if this proves the bluetooth problem is fixed or not since I've not experienced the bluetooth-switching-off problem myself.

Hi Doody, It would seem that the issue is with the software not the hardware - however that is only my opinion. The new Exec seems to still be holding up and no problems yet! I give it a good going over later tonight and see if i can get to go wrong (haha). I have noticed that the O2 active program is still there but only if you tap on it in programs. The only way to get rid of it was to choose the install type again (only takes 15 secs to change and its gone) The biggest difference is the screen refresh on changing from landscape to portrait - It's Instant (well almost).
So before everyone panics - i would guess we will see a new update from O2 very soon!!!

hi Moandal,
could you please dump the ROM out of it?
If you need assistance, just let me know.
THANX
buzz

Jeux_1: I've set up email now and tab does take me from "from" to the message.
Buzz: I'll happily dump the ROM for you, but I'll need an idiot-level step by step guide!

Hi Jeux_1,
I don't have an XDA Exec, but i don't think you need the ROM upgrade to solve your problem...
I was having the same problem with my JasJar but it was solved using one of the registry hacks in Tweakz 2k2.Net
It's the hack that relates to smooth scrolling in Pocket Internet Explorer... what you need to do, is to turn it off so that PIE scrolls by link to link instead...
After which you should notice that you can easily swap between To, cc, Subject and message body in your e-mail messages....
I hope you find it useful...
Take it easy...

Random Restarts

Has anyone had this???
My MDA Vario restarts on it self on a regular basis...then it asks for my password n den pin....
is this due to the fact that its been dropped twice??
or is it because i play mp3s on a regular basis?

Are you overclocking it? I was getting that as well but I reduced the speed to 240MHz from 264MHz and it hasn't happened since.

nope

Could also be the ROM Version you are using. I had constant reboots ( 3-5 times a day ) with the original T-Mobile ROM - now that I am using the QTEK 2.18 all is fine - no more reboots.

hmmm im using the original t mobile rom.....i seriously didnt want to blank my rom and flash a new version cos i aint done it before

Well known issue with the TMO Ship ROM I'm afraid. I'm stuck with it (and the reboots) as I need BB Connect but if you don't need BB then I'd recommend the latest QTEK, it's excellent and stable

JoninLA, thanks for that info mate, but whats BB?
also can you direct me to the latest rom, and a few simple instructions...
if the process is long then i wont do it. ive got a ton of coursework to get done...so messing about with fone makes me life a bit more stressful

BB (Blackberry).
Latest QTEK ROM is at ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Qtek/ and I was using the 186504-ruu_9100_2170702_21707102_20710_qtek_wwe_ship.exe which was very stable

Guys... I have the same problem with resets. However, this only happens when i have the bluetooth on. Anyone heard of any glitch with the bluetooth patch?

Well I haven't tried having the bluetooth off so you may be right - kind of sucks to say you can't use the SD in all the time or you have to turn the bluetooth off. Basically, this is an issue with the AKU1 and never had any problems with the AKU2 QTEK ROM so if anyone in this post chain doesn't need Blackberry connect I'd just recommend upgrading to a decent ROM

We're wondering if this problem, along with the MDA Vario ROM, might be SD-card related? See thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33537
Andre

andrewilley, hi mate....now that you mention it...restarts only kicked off when i got my 1GB mini sd!! never happend before :shock:

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andrewilley, hi mate....now that you mention it...restarts only kicked off when i got my 1GB mini sd!! never happend before :shock:
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What's on your SD card at the moment, is there anything that would prevent you from doing what I'm doing and taking it out for a few days for testing purposes?
It would also be worthwhile downloading B_Uptime, a neat little utility that logs all reboots so you'll know how long your device has been running and when any unexpected reboots have occured. See the thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45168
Andre

Well that's a full week with not a single unexpected reboot. When I had the SD card in place I was getting several reboots a day. I've got to put the card back in now as I need TomTom, so I guess the reboots will come back and really prove the point if there's any doubt left.
Has anyone else tried this test to see if their reboots go away without an SD card in place?
Hopefully it'll be fully cured with a newer ROM, anyway. I'm waiting to see what the new T-Mobile UK one is like before venturing into that area though.
Andre

andrewilley, mate ive done a hard reset..and also deleted a film of my mini SD card..since then there has not been any random reboots

First post so be gentle.
New to my MDA Vario with a 2 Gig card.
Random reboots have caused me to search for answers.
This link may have some answers.... http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
I have tried the fix and will see what happens.

thanks for the info-i tried that activesync fix but still had 2 futher reboots today :x
Have called tmob, im waiting for them to call me back now :arrow:

a bit of googling and i found it seems the problem is quite common-
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235270&st=0
i noticed, today the rebooting has been really frequent and its the first time in ages i actually got sined into msn messenger-(albeit for 15 minutes before "unexpected error":roll: ) just wondering if maybe the 2 things are connected in any way?
also havent activesynced for a couple of days
seems theres a new tmob uk rom out very soon-hope tis fixes this very annoying problem

dmonik, Good find mate, I noticed that mine restarts when ive put a large film on the Mini SD Card

dmonik said:
a bit of googling and i found it seems the problem is quite common-
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235270&st=0
i noticed, today the rebooting has been really frequent and its the first time in ages i actually got sined into msn messenger-(albeit for 15 minutes before "unexpected error":roll: ) just wondering if maybe the 2 things are connected in any way?
also havent activesynced for a couple of days
seems theres a new tmob uk rom out very soon-hope tis fixes this very annoying problem
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I've tried the Activesync fake server trick from that thread, seems to help in some ways. But, I've found that if you cold boot or soft-reset, then the AS schedule returns to how it was before the change, so you have to do it again.