Hi Friends
Today i fall out (drop) the glass of cofee on my athena, and then:
i take off battery quickly, and then i clean cofee from device and keyboard...:-(
and until now, i dont insert battery, please say me what i must do?
is may my athena died?:-(
i reject battery and clean cofee quickly but i think it maybe be damaged
my last nokia 7710, dont damage with one time i fall out water on it
i hope it was like Nokia 7710:-(
sorry for my long post and very bad english:-(
Arya said:
Hi Friends
Today i fall out (drop) the glass of cofee on my athena, and then:
i take off battery quickly, and then i clean cofee from device and keyboard...:-(
and until now, i dont insert battery, please say me what i must do?
is may my athena died?:-(
i reject battery and clean cofee quickly but i think it maybe be damaged
my last nokia 7710, dont damage with one time i fall out water on it
i hope it was like Nokia 7710:-(
sorry for my long post and very bad english:-(
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There was any sugar in the coffee? Milk?
I will suggest just to clean the outside with a wet paper towel, then with a dry one... athena is quite protected. Use a contact cleaner for USB and cable port, waitsince it is completely dry then insert the battery, the SIM card and SD and cross your fingers...
sergiopi said:
There was any sugar in the coffee? Milk?
I will suggest just to clean the outside with a wet paper towel, then with a dry one... athena is quite protected. Use a contact cleaner for USB and cable port, waitsince it is completely dry then insert the battery, the SIM card and SD and cross your fingers...
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tank for your quick answer
I think it has suger:-(
but it was in the case and was closed, and cofee fallout on case and a little on case and i clean it with a dry paper
i haven't contact cleaner for usb abd cable port. (i don't think cofee go there)
i don't reject SIM card and SD.
do now i reject them?
the cofee fallout in around 8 o'clock and now is 12:23
is it neccery to do all of thease work?
tomorrow morning is good time to insert battery?
sorry for my long post and bad english
Just don't use it for today...
If something would help, it would be this:
Find a manual for disassembling the device (you just need to put the display out of the device).
Then you should just spray a LITTLE BIT of contact cleaner on the device.
(Contact cleaner = That spray what you use when it's winter and you can't use the locks of doors with your keys).
That will give more chance of the device working than that it dies while waiting.
You don't have a "contact cleaner"? Then tomorrow buy one and don't use the device for today (leave the battery out too).
If this all fails due to you being lazy then just go to a telecom store which repairs phones and pray that they won't break the device. Not everyone understands how to handle PDA's. Especially, not an Athena type.
TryOG said:
Just don't use it for today...
If something would help, it would be this:
Find a manual for disassembling the device (you just need to put the display out of the device).
Then you should just spray a LITTLE BIT of contact cleaner on the device.
(Contact cleaner = That spray what you use when it's winter and you can't use the locks of doors with your keys).
That will give more chance of the device working than that it dies while waiting.
You don't have a "contact cleaner"? Then tomorrow buy one and don't use the device for today (leave the battery out too).
If this all fails due to you being lazy then just go to a telecom store which repairs phones and pray that they won't break the device. Not everyone understands how to handle PDA's. Especially, not an Athena type.
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tanX for your answer
how i open the device? where i can find manual? i think i can't open the unit!!
tanX for helps, and other think is keyboard
my firend say cofee fall on keyboard too and he clean it with a dry paper
is thease work enouth or do more?
please say me which place i must use contact cleaner?
and tomorrow when i want to buy one, i go to get a normal contact cleaner? model is not important?
sorry for my bad post and tanX for your quickly reply
Manual:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!4472423472DCFC38!272.entry
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Manual:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!4472423472DCFC38!272.entry
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tanX a lot friend
i try all of these and i hope my device go back, and work sucesfully
Arya said:
tanX a lot friend
i try all of these and i hope my device go back, and work sucesfully
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I dumped coffee in a desktop keyboard once and just drained it out. It dried and worked for 6 months. The contacts corroded from the acids in the coffee but it took some time. I probably would consider washing out the keyboard (detached from the 7500, of course) and drying it thoroughly under a lamp or with a fan until completely dry.
Wait to see if anybody else would like to comment on this before you do it. It might be the end of the keyboard but you probably could get a replacement from HTC if necessary.
Brad
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I dumped coffee in a desktop keyboard once and just drained it out. It dried and worked for 6 months. The contacts corroded from the acids in the coffee but it took some time. I probably would consider washing out the keyboard (detached from the 7500, of course) and drying it thoroughly under a lamp or with a fan until completely dry.
Wait to see if anybody else would like to comment on this before you do it. It might be the end of the keyboard but you probably could get a replacement from HTC if necessary.
Brad
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tanX a lot friend
i wait to other comment to know what i must do?!!
Do you think keyboard is damage now?
are you say i wash keyboard with water complatly?!!!!
Arya said:
tanX a lot friend
i wait to other comment to know what i must do?!!
Do you think keyboard is damage now?
are you say i wash keyboard with water complatly?!!!!
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I would call HTC to see if they think coffee/cream could have entered around the keys and to ask what they think you should do.
There does not appear to be any way to open it up and clean it so the only way would be to put it in running water that I can see. However, it might also make the keyboard unuseable. Only you can decide.
Brad
miterb said:
I would call HTC to see if they think coffee/cream could have entered around the keys and to ask what they think you should do.
There does not appear to be any way to open it up and clean it so the only way would be to put it in running water that I can see. However, it might also make the keyboard unuseable. Only you can decide.
Brad
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tanX for your reply
how can i ask from HTC?
I'm in iran and my engilsh is bad
is there any email for these works?!
Hi all good friends
This nice flower for all of you that help and answer me to reback my athena
now i can do it.
my athena is now work perfect...
My friend Mehrdad say me:Only insert battery to unit and turn it on
i do this and device wakeup
tanX a lot my dear mehrad
Rasti Hirad Jan, mehrad too PT behet salam resoond, goft kheili vaghte nadidatet!!
now i'm a Athena MAN too, like all of you
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the only thing is my problem yet, is keyboard
i don't attach it yet...
maybe if i attach it, it damage or ...?
my friend say i press button until tommorow and then attach it...
Techntrek,
The Zip download of the manual (#5) has come up as corrupted - I've tried a couple of times from home and work (both Xp machines).
Have you downloaded and extracted it successfully?
yes, I got it a week ago. Im not sure what the other 4 files are for, Ive only opened the zip file.
Next time you wet your phone, this article may provide some very useful tips on how to deal with it.
http://www.mobilehornet.com/archives/646
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Next time you wet your phone, this article may provide some very useful tips on how to deal with it.
http://www.mobilehornet.com/archives/646
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tanX for your post
tonight i going to take water on my athena to wet that, and then test these ways to repair my athena
Arya said:
tanX for your post
tonight i going to take water on my athena to wet that, and then test these ways to repair my athena
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LOL. You're getting to be Wet and Wild!
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LOL. You're getting to be Wet and Wild!
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yesterday i thinking, and now i dont want to get wet my athena, because maybe it be cold (headcold)
last time, that i fell down the cofee, because my athena like cofee;-)
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yes, I got it a week ago. Im not sure what the other 4 files are for, Ive only opened the zip file.
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There are 5 files because it is what is known as a split archive. In other words the file is so big, that on the server it has to be split up in order to upload it. With these archives you download all parts and then open the one marked ZIP. When it extracts the files it automatically looks for the other four parts. If you don't bother downloading the other parts it will just give you an error.
Mike
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I have a 8525 that is 14 months old and has been working wonderfully all this time. A few days ago it started to shut itself off at no repeatable times. I pull it out and it is off! I try to load something and it shuts down instead. Today I did a total wipe and reinstalled from a back up. The same problem occurred. I wiped it again and installed a 2 month old backup and the same thing occurred. I have changed the battery. The memory is fine. The only thing that I have not tried is a wipe and a reinstall from scratch, but obviously would prefer not to do that.
WM 6.1 is running
Check to see if your battery connection isn't lose. If the power keeps shutting off for no reason in your pocket it could be that its not making proper connection. If you bought another battery that wasn't a HTC original then it may not be Quite the right size. I had this problem with an extended battery I bought. It was about 1/2mm less width than an original but that was enough to be a problem. A piece of paper between the battery and the casing fixed this.
Cheers...
not the problem
Thanks, but the battery is not the problem as the spare battery is one that I have been using for 6 months and the other one that I tried is the factory battery. Unfortunately, it is more serious than this.
I'm having similar problems with my Hermes...and I bought it ~14months ago too, refurbished, it's a Voda v1605, uk ebay seller.
Actually mine stays powered most of the time and it's not a SW problem: I'm trying various ROMs and I'm 100% sure the problem is HW-based.
Well it's much I have this prob and don't have any warranty, so I opened it and tried to "manually" solve this matter: I put a page between my qwerty and the motherboard, and this, together with some paper under the battery, solved the problem at most.
Now it switches off less frequently, but still not enough to safely bring it in my pocket and always find it switched on after taking it off
I tried to get it repaired but they told me they'd change the motherboard for +/- the price of a "as-new" 2nd hand one
I hope you solve, but if you don't....then I think we have to sell it "as-damaged" (or return it in warranty if you have)...I'm actually looking for a Diamond or TyTn II (see hard choice... thread ) and leave this dear mate
what i was afraid of
This is what I was afraid of. No warranty here so have been thinking of moving to the Tilt, but I am leaving town in a day and have no time to get and set it up.
Its also possible if you dropped your Hermes you may have cracked or bent the battery connectors.... May need to be fixed with soldering iron but is a pain if you can't solder really tiny joints...
Cheers...
ultramag69 said:
Its also possible if you dropped your Hermes you may have cracked or bent the battery connectors.... May need to be fixed with soldering iron but is a pain if you can't solder really tiny joints...
Cheers...
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I'm ready to go, I want my Hermes back
Can you point me to some photos to understand where to solder the connectors better?
I mean, I've already seen them (so many times hehe), I also have that cool yellow gauge that could be useful to understand if they don't "touch" correctly, but I'm not sure I understood where are the soldering points
A photo with some arrow could be useful (or something similar lol).
Many thanks for your help mate!
The best idea would be to go Here - http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/
Mikes site offers the best tutorials for the Hermes, and, if you need to you can pm him directly.
Cheers...
ultramag69 said:
The best idea would be to go Here - http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/
Mikes site offers the best tutorials for the Hermes, and, if you need to you can pm him directly.
Cheers...
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What a lovable guy! So available, so kind, cool!
Guys, just to let you all be near me...with my hearth that cries at every Hermes black screen...I've opened it again, did some tweaks - again - and did a complete photo-report and a short video too!
See here
http://s403.photobucket.com/albums/pp120/ErMejoo/My%20v1605%20opened/?albumview=slideshow and for the video choose "Main" on the top corner.
I'm looking forward to the next Mike answer (just sent him the link too) to see if he thinks detaching and soldering again the battery connectors can be the right next choice.
If someone has some ideas or if I have a great one (don't think so but the hope never fades away) or simply for kind words, let's write here.
Thanks to everyone giving support, I really appreciate.
ErMeglio said:
What a lovable guy! So available, so kind, cool!
Guys, just to let you all be near me...with my hearth that cries at every Hermes black screen...I've opened it again, did some tweaks - again - and did a complete photo-report and a short video too!
See here
http://s403.photobucket.com/albums/pp120/ErMejoo/My%20v1605%20opened/?albumview=slideshow and for the video choose "Main" on the top corner.
I'm looking forward to the next Mike answer (just sent him the link too) to see if he thinks detaching and soldering again the battery connectors can be the right next choice.
If someone has some ideas or if I have a great one (don't think so but the hope never fades away) or simply for kind words, let's write here.
Thanks to everyone giving support, I really appreciate.
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Sorry was feeling a bit sick yesterday and didn't reply.
Having looked at the pics an video, I am begining to think one of two things:
1. There may be a crack in one of the battery connector soldered joints
Or
2. This has nothing to do with the battery connector and may have more to do with the general condition of the phone.
Number one could probably only be checked by re-soldering the contacts.
Number two is quite unspecific. You see when I look at the pics and see the gaps in the casing, and some damage to internal plastic, I get the feeling that the circuit boards etc are probably not be firmly held in place. In other words there is likely quite a bit of movement internally and between the two halves of the phone.
This in itself could cause the battery to move around. It could also cause the rigid flex cables to move at their connectors.
I think you need to check each and every connector is well inserted AND try to firm up all the looseness and movement internally and in the casing . I'm not sure that wlll be an easy job given some plastic parts appear broken.
I think it's going to be difficult to give further advice (not being able to see and feel the device directly.)
However, I'll have a look at my Hermes this weekend, and try to establish a link between pressing certain areas of the keyboard and a total shutdown.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks Mike, don't have to apologize, you're offering free help
Anyway, I have the WORST news for you....my Hermes has gone, completely.
After the mail I sent you the other day, don't know why really, perhaps for the spray, I don't know, it didn't switch on again.
When I connect the battery charger it comes red, and if I remember what I read somewhere here red means it doesn't feel the battery at all.
I tried to leave it outdoor these 2 days to see if magically that spray which left a film everywhere would have evaporated but this didn't help.
I'm having a very "rude" welder as I said, it has a cutting tip just to make you understand, anyway I've just toggled the battery conn with it (I had nothing to loose) and I have the 2 centered one which took away a dark "film", and on the motherboard I have the 2 silver connectors on each side, which touch 2-by-2, and the 2 centered one which are completely black...don't know if I damaged something that way...
I think tomorrow I could try to weld 4 wires (what are the centered one for?) and see what happens...what do you think?
I'd like to try everything to even explore the 0,01% possibilities to see it working again...
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Just updated my album on photobucket with the new photos...
After the mail I sent you the other day, don't know why really, perhaps for the spray, I don't know, it didn't switch on again.
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!! What spray? Where did it come from?
When I connect the battery charger it comes red, and if I remember what I read somewhere here red means it doesn't feel the battery at all.
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Yes it means the battery is not charging - which suggests the connector is now disconnected even if it wasn't before.
I'm having a very "rude" welder as I said,.
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Now!, I think something has happened to the translation here!! Does this welder (let's call him Fred) swear at you and call you rude names? And when you say you have had him!!!
Sorry - I have a weird sense of humour.
Anyway. To be honest, given the general condition of the phone and it's various problems - I think you should start looking for a new phone - you will never be able to rely on the one you have there.
You could also consider making a small amount of money ny selling off parts from the one you have. Folk here are always looking for difficult to find parts.
Sorry to be defeatist about the phone, but I think you realise that it's condition is getting worse not better. Assuming money is no problem then it's time to get yourself a present
Mike
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!! What spray? Where did it come from?
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Will do a photo in some minutes and upload to photobucket, think you understood I love doing photos with the daddy's (almost) new HD cam
mikechannon said:
Now!, I think something has happened to the translation here!! Does this welder (let's call him Fred) swear at you and call you rude names? And when you say you have had him!!!
Sorry - I have a weird sense of humour.
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Hahahahahahaha ops!! I Said I am an inventive Italian, didn't I?
I've just read some -better?- definition of the "noun" on dictionary.com (All rights reserved bla bla bla) and found:
–verb (used with object)
1.to unite or fuse (as pieces of metal) by hammering, compressing, or the like, esp. after rendering soft or pasty by heat, and sometimes with the addition of fusible material like or unlike the pieces to be united.
2.to bring into complete union, harmony, agreement, etc. –verb (used without object)
3.to undergo welding; be capable of being welded: a metal that welds easily.
–noun
4.a welded junction or joint.
5.the act of welding or the state of being welded.
And also:
Weld"er\, n. One(A PERSON??) who welds, or unites pieces of iron, etc., by welding.
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Mmh I'm quite confused, don't think I understood, wtf does welder mean lol?!
There's also the verb part which seemed correct, isn't it?
Anyway, that's the google translation, knew it was stupid but didn't think that much
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Sorry to be defeatist about the phone, but I think you realise that it's condition is getting worse not better. Assuming money is no problem then it's time to get yourself a present
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Well I will, as soon as I can...currently I can't, that's why yesterday my father wanted to help buying 50% (200€) of a Nokia N95 8gb to let me use it and wait better prices for the HTCs out there...and take the Nokia for himself when I decide (what a profiteer haha!!)...BUT of course the shop finished them ([OT]there's a long story for N95s here, everyone wants it but noone gets! In short, my sister got a new bricked one (DOA) and is waiting for a replacement for 2 months; my dad bought one on ebay and got cheated for 270€...now I damage my phone and want to buy at the shop with him and it ends two days after we had seen it there...if this was a film I'd call it "Nokia N95-8gb: the nightmare"! [/OT])!
Thanks for your help anyway, much appreciated!
ErMeglio said:
Will do a photo in some minutes and upload to photobucket, think you understood I love doing photos with the daddy's (almost) new HD cam
Hahahahahahaha ops!! I Said I am an inventive Italian, didn't I?
I've just read some -better?- definition of the "noun" on dictionary.com (All rights reserved bla bla bla) and found:
Mmh I'm quite confused, don't think I understood, wtf does welder mean lol?!
There's also the verb part which seemed correct, isn't it?
Anyway, that's the google translation, knew it was stupid but didn't think that much
Well I will, as soon as I can...currently I can't, that's why yesterday my father wanted to help buying 50% (200€) of a Nokia N95 8gb to let me use it and wait better prices for the HTCs out there...and take the Nokia for himself when I decide (what a profiteer haha!!)...BUT of course the shop finished them ([OT]there's a long story for N95s here, everyone wants it but noone gets! In short, my sister got a new bricked one (DOA) and is waiting for a replacement for 2 months; my dad bought one on ebay and got cheated for 270€...now I damage my phone and want to buy at the shop with him and it ends two days after we had seen it there...if this was a film I'd call it "Nokia N95-8gb: the nightmare"! [/OT])!
Thanks for your help anyway, much appreciated!
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Well you have nothing more to lose by continuing to try things out on the Hermes.
A couple of points regarding your pictures. You know you can upload the pictures to photobucket and then using the direct link that photbucket gives you below the picture you can then post the picture on XDA-Dev. You use the little "insert image" icon when writing a post. As shown here:
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I'm not sure what that black film on the central connectors is. Perhaps it's melted plastic from the connector housing. In any case you should be able to melt it off. (Be careful though because excess heat may be transferred into the board and start loosening other connections. The Hermes has a multilayered m/board and some connections are "sandwiched" between the layers).
I see the picture of the spray - I assume it is a metal polish? It may or may not conduct electricity - if it does that could cause serious problems even after it's cleaned off.
Mike
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By the way a welder can be a person who welds or a machine that welds. But you said that it was a rude welder. A machine cannot be rude, so a "rude welder" as you stated, must be a person!!
NB Welding is a term used for joining large pieces of metal. When talking about circuit boards we normally say soldering not welding.
My Italian lessons (thanks to Chiara from Tomtom) are coming along nicely:
Alla fine della strada, girate a sinistra.
(But I don't care I could listen to Chiara's voice all day long)
mikechannon said:
I'm not sure what that black film on the central connectors is. Perhaps it's melted plastic from the connector housing. In any case you should be able to melt it off. (Be careful though because excess heat may be transferred into the board and start loosening other connections. The Hermes has a multilayered m/board and some connections are "sandwiched" between the layers).
I see the picture of the spray - I assume it is a metal polish? It may or may not conduct electricity - if it does that could cause serious problems even after it's cleaned off.
Mike
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By the way a welder can be a person who welds or a machine that welds. But you said that it was a rude welder. A machine cannot be rude, so a "rude welder" as you stated, must be a person!!
NB Welding is a term used for joining large pieces of metal. When talking about circuit boards we normally say soldering not welding.
My Italian lessons (thanks to Chiara from Tomtom) are coming along nicely:
Alla fine della strada, girate a sinistra.
(But I don't care I could listen to Chiara's voice all day long)
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I didn't try to add all them here because, you know, photobucket slideshow is so sexy
Thanks for the lesson I needed, much appreciated
I just realized the "rude" adjective refers to a person, I used it because in Italian saying something/someone is "rude" or "rudimentale" means it/he is simple, old, rudimentary or primitive...and here we use it for both things and people...think you'd say unkind if it was a person.
Speaking of the Hermes, those 2 black ""connectors"" you see on the board in that photo have not something "more" comparing to the others, but something LESS! It's sort of scaring after having read about the layers, because under the gold connectors, after having removed them, I could detach just a sort of LAYER (that's what I meant with film), which btw didn't seem conducting side-by-side
Will update when I have some time to try the cables ""solution""!
p.s. You'd LOVE Selen's sexy sensual voice for TomTom I think...she's (was) an Italian pornostar still well known...See Wiki!!
Did you remove the traces? That's almost what the pics look like. By that I mean the gold under the solder.
I have problem with trackball.
Down cant move. Left, right and right woks good.
Whats a problem?
dodadent said:
I have problem with trackball.
Down cant move. Left, right and right woks good.
Whats a problem?
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I have had the same issue at times. I use a pre-moistened lens cloth to help clean it up and remove any debris.
How do you mean? did you open all?
I have 2 years guarantee!
dodadent said:
How do you mean? did you open all?
I have 2 years guarantee!
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Same here. I've received 2 replacement handsets (TMo Dash 3G) because of the trackball. Does the moistened wipe help?
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I have problem with trackball.
Down cant move. Left, right and right woks good.
Whats a problem?
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Reminds me of the well-known problem on the HTC Tornado back in the day. A lot of people suffered the same issue on that phone too.
dodadent said:
I have problem with trackball.
Down cant move. Left, right and right woks good.
Whats a problem?
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I have had the same issue at time too..if you still think about your warranty then go to local service center..and clean the phone..
or...
you can try the tips below:
http://www.berryreview.com/2008/12/22/faq-how-do-you-clean-your-trackball/
Wal-Mart sells these individually wrapped, pre-moistened lens cleaner cloths (kind of like the hand cleaner packages you get at some restaurants).
Anyway, they’re called Zeiss Lens Cloths and they sell them in the Optical Section, up front where they sell eye glasses. They clean the BB from top to bottom extremely well and help brighten and clean the trackball. Package of 50 is like 2 bucks.
I find with the q-tip method the cotton sticks to the trackball. my 2c
xavier – thanks for your post, i tried your suggestion for the Zeiss Lens Cloth premoistened wipes and it worked perfectly and I did not have to open the Blackberry Bold to solve the problem. I keep these wipes around for numerous uses in dealing with eye glasses, lens, or other similar uses. Thanks again.
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If you have the warranty, might as well just take it in, but I have the cloths all ready, so I just clean it.
The pre-moistend lens cloths are used with the device intact. I just wipe down the trackball real well, rotate it a bit and continue cleaning until it rolls freely.
It happened also to me couple of times. Just blow quickly at the trackball using your lips or presurized air for computer keyboards. Not sure about any wet "ass wipes" which may leak into the phone inside. My method always works (so far) Service repair is last instance. Good luck!
The wipes don't help, the track ball opperates on a magnetic principle (the pick ups are soldered on the main board, the movment is controled by magnetic cylinders.) I had to send my phone in to htc after about two months, they replaced the main board and trackball assy. I had it appart also, there was nothing to clean, nor to fix. All sold state. (except the little rollers)
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The wipes don't help, the track ball opperates on a magnetic principle (the pick ups are soldered on the main board, the movment is controled by magnetic cylinders.) I had to send my phone in to htc after about two months, they replaced the main board and trackball assy. I had it appart also, there was nothing to clean, nor to fix. All sold state. (except the little rollers)
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Blackberry technology is using magnetic cylinders too.. hmm quite strange...i was going to htc care..wait for 2 hours..the cust service said, all they do is just clean my trackball..and everything is ok...till now
another tips how to clean your trackball using straw
http://forums.crackberry.com/f2/trackball-will-not-scroll-down-276266/#post3298104
Ok so I was having the exact same problem, and I used to do tech support for these devices so I kno that they work just like a PC mouse. So..... wat I did is I took a straw cut it long way down (hotdog style if you remember how to do that from 1st grade haha) it into a very small size, about just enough to wrap around the trackball half way. Then I inserted the straw into the slot between the chrome and the trackball (this part can take some time so just be patient) you will be surprised how deep it can go, I went all the way till it stopped. Now you will have the straw sticking out of the BOLD. Bend the rest of the straw down so it is now folded parallel to the bold but still sticking in it. Now wat I did is I spent it clock wise for about a minute then yanked it out and you will notice a ton of lint/dirt pop out, after this you will want to blow on it while rolling with your finger in all directions. You should be seeing a lot of dirt rolling around by now, and also the straw will have a tiny bit of wear on it. Proceed to do this as much as you like but doing so in 1 direction will produce more dirt. I went clockwise about 5 times then counter clockwise about another 5. Then viola it was like brand new. Hope this works for you crackberry heads out there. Deuces!!
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harunjo said:
Blackberry technology is using magnetic cylinders too.. hmm quite strange...i was going to htc care..wait for 2 hours..the cust service said, all they do is just clean my trackball..and everything is ok...till now
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well, i suppose you could get some dirt in between the cylinder and the pickup chip... unfortunately the ball is not removable on the dash, it only comes out if the phone is taken appart.
clauswl said:
well, i suppose you could get some dirt in between the cylinder and the pickup chip... unfortunately the ball is not removable on the dash, it only comes out if the phone is taken appart.
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yes the htc care guys opened my phone from back..pull the ball and the container..clean the ball with some liquid...i think thats quite easy todo..
i will do above by myself some day after my waranty finished
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another tips how to clean your trackball using straw
http://forums.crackberry.com/f2/trackball-will-not-scroll-down-276266/#post3298104
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hey guys..FYI
i did above method to clean my trackball..and its worked on my snap
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Ok so I was having the exact same problem, and I used to do tech support for these devices so I kno that they work just like a PC mouse. So.....
what I did is I took a straw cut it long way down (hotdog style if you remember how to do that from 1st grade haha)
it into a very small size, about just enough to wrap around the trackball half way.
Then I inserted the straw into the slot between the chrome and the trackball (this part can take some time so just be patient) you will be surprised how deep it can go, I went all the way till it stopped.
Now you will have the straw sticking out of the BOLD. Bend the rest of the straw down so it is now folded parallel to the bold but still sticking in it.
Now wat I did is I spent it clock wise for about a minute then yanked it out and you will notice a ton of lint/dirt pop out, after this you will want to blow on it while rolling with your finger in all directions.
You should be seeing a lot of dirt rolling around by now, and also the straw will have a tiny bit of wear on it.
Proceed to do this as much as you like but doing so in 1 direction will produce more dirt.
I went clockwise about 5 times then counter clockwise about another 5. Then viola it was like brand new.
Hope this works for you crackberry heads out there. Deuces!!
harunjo said:
hey guys..FYI
i did above method to clean my trackball..and its worked on my snap
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Did u get the ball out?? I tried, the only reasonable way was by opening the case. The outer ring does not remove as it can be removed on dinle berries..lol.
clauswl said:
Did u get the ball out?? I tried, the only reasonable way was by opening the case. The outer ring does not remove as it can be removed on dinle berries..lol.
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nope this method is to clean the container of ball inside from outside without to open phone case...
to pull out the ball you must open the snap case totally.
Read below for detail:
http://forums.crackberry.com/f2/trackball-will-not-scroll-down-276266/#post3298104
Ok so I was having the exact same problem, and I used to do tech support for these devices so I kno that they work just like a PC mouse. So.....
what I did is I took a straw cut it long way down (hotdog style if you remember how to do that from 1st grade haha)
it into a very small size, about just enough to wrap around the trackball half way.
Then I inserted the straw into the slot between the chrome and the trackball (this part can take some time so just be patient) you will be surprised how deep it can go, I went all the way till it stopped.
Now you will have the straw sticking out of the BOLD. Bend the rest of the straw down so it is now folded parallel to the bold but still sticking in it.
Now wat I did is I spent it clock wise for about a minute then yanked it out and you will notice a ton of lint/dirt pop out, after this you will want to blow on it while rolling with your finger in all directions.
You should be seeing a lot of dirt rolling around by now, and also the straw will have a tiny bit of wear on it.
Proceed to do this as much as you like but doing so in 1 direction will produce more dirt.
I went clockwise about 5 times then counter clockwise about another 5. Then viola it was like brand new.
Hope this works for you crackberry heads out there. Deuces!!
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I Just disassembly my HTC Snap s522 to clean the trackball today,
I can confirm you now guys..the htc snap s522 trackball is same type like blackberry 8310 trackball..so you can replace your trackball with BB 8310 trackball.
I just tried my friend Blackberry 8310 trackball and tried to running it on my snap..and it worked well.
you guys are looking too deep into this lol. this happened to me just push the ball in and move it around it will start working again
Aricrj said:
you guys are looking too deep into this lol. this happened to me just push the ball in and move it around it will start working again
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our snap use same type like blackberry trackball and sometimes the trackball will stop working till 6 months of use..(base on report at BB forum) the ball will become slick after 6 month.
you will need to know how to replace the ball (after 1 year service guarantee expired) anyway..thats why i concern about the trackball..
For me Being to know i can use the bb trackball on my snap is great..because cheap aftermarket BB trackball is everywhere in my country only $4 (include trackball house) compare to costly oem ball (will cost you about $20)
My tips:
You just need to keep the OEM trackball house and use the cheap aftermarket ball on it, you willl still has HTC OEM trackball performance on your snap.
My snap with BB curve 8900 atomic trackball
For those who are/have/and still experiencing specs of dust underneath the touchscreen....
... I will endeavor on a journey using iFixIt.com's Nexus One Teardown Guide. There will be no need to document me taking apart the device, however, I will be taking pictures of the dust, the location of the leak, me cleaning the device, and an attempt to seal the leak. I bought the essential tools from ifixit.com: Phillips #00 Screwdriver, T4 Torx Screwdriver, iPod Opening Tools. This came out to a total of $12.85. I then used a $5.00 coupon code (11221FIXIT) bringing me down to $7.85. There is no sales tax unless you live in CA. Shipping was $3.17.
Long story short - I was tired of looking at the dust, tired of the HTC folks say "sorry, you voided your warranty" and "sorry, we only send you a refurbished device, not your own or a new one". So, I spent the $11 and I'm going to fix it on my own. WISH ME LUCK.
Here is the link to the teardown:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One-Teardown/1654/1
*******UPDATE*******
Alright folks - I took the time out of my day to open my Nexus One and clean off the dust underneath the screen. I took pictures. Here is my assessment after completing this daunting task.
PROS
-NO MORE DUST!!!!!!
-NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MORE DUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST!!!!
CONS
-Takes a lot of time (2.5 hours)
-There is now a smear on the bottom of the screen now - it can only be seen in direct sunlight
-Putting it back together is an ASS-PAIN. Such a pain in fact, by the time I was finished there were still 2 screws left, and 3 weird rubbery pieces that I left out.
The phone is back together and in excellent working shape
All in all, only do this if you have the amount of dust under your screen like I did. I am happy with the results but I think I want a BRAND NEW PHONE. Oh well.. Enjoy the pics.
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For those who are/have/and still experiencing specs of dust underneath the touchscreen....
... I will endeavor on a journey using iFixIt.com's Nexus One Teardown Guide. There will be no need to document me taking apart the device, however, I will be taking pictures of the dust, the location of the leak, me cleaning the device, and an attempt to seal the leak. I bought the essential tools from ifixit.com: Phillips #00 Screwdriver, T4 Torx Screwdriver, iPod Opening Tools. This came out to a total of $12.85. I then used a $5.00 coupon code (11221FIXIT) bringing me down to $7.85. There is no sales tax unless you live in CA. Shipping was $3.17.
Long story short - I was tired of looking at the dust, tired of the HTC folks say "sorry, you voided your warranty" and "sorry, we only send you a refurbished device, not your own or a new one". So, I spent the $11 and I'm going to fix it on my own. WISH ME LUCK.
Here is the link to the teardown:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One-Teardown/1654/1
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Good luck, can't wait to hear what you find. Can you take pictures pre-doing this all? Specifically of the dust build up?
Ok, most important thing to do. Make sure you are in a clean room! Maybe even a Clean Room. Otherwise you will end up putting more dust in than you take out. Cheapest way is to run a hot shower and let the place fog up and then settle to get the dust out of the air. But probably not a good thing to open your phone while it is still fully fogged up as you'll get condensation inside it
wesbalmer said:
Good luck, can't wait to hear what you find. Can you take pictures pre-doing this all? Specifically of the dust build up?
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Yes, of course I'll take pictures of the dust BEFORE I disassemble the device. And then I'll take the AFTER pictures when it's reassembled.
Clarkster said:
Ok, most important thing to do. Make sure you are in a clean room! Maybe even a Clean Room. Otherwise you will end up putting more dust in than you take out. Cheapest way is to run a hot shower and let the place fog up and then settle to get the dust out of the air. But probably not a good thing to open your phone while it is still fully fogged up as you'll get condensation inside it
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Awesome tip! Thanks.
yeah i cant stress enough to make sure you do this in a claean environment. i tried doing this with my nokia e71, and i never could get the screen lcd clean no matter what i tried! as i put it back together, little particles would just gravitate to it no matter what. i would wipe and try to quickly put it together, more dust. tried again, more dust. over and over.
here at work we have cleanrooms at a extremely high rating. if only i could use them to disassemble my smartphone.
Subscribed!
Eager to see what sort of luck you have
good luck, also would like to see pictures and hear you findings and the tough parts to tear down.
how big of an issue is this on the nexus ones?
im planning on getting one and i dont want to get one if these problems are frequent
k20a1 said:
how big of an issue is this on the nexus ones?
im planning on getting one and i dont want to get one if these problems are frequent
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if you get a nexus just press down on the bottom by the capacitive buttons. If the screen creaks or feels like it gives just follow what Uansari1 did and heat it with a hair dryer for a few seconds from like 5in. away and the press firmly around the screen. It will help to reseal.
oaky thanks ill keep that in mind
so its a pretty common problem then?
it was for the launch nexus', im sure (hopefully) they have it all sorted out by now.
jagjr86 said:
For those who are/have/and still experiencing specs of dust underneath the touchscreen....
... I will endeavor on a journey using iFixIt.com's Nexus One Teardown Guide. There will be no need to document me taking apart the device, however, I will be taking pictures of the dust, the location of the leak, me cleaning the device, and an attempt to seal the leak. I bought the essential tools from ifixit.com: Phillips #00 Screwdriver, T4 Torx Screwdriver, iPod Opening Tools. This came out to a total of $12.85. I then used a $5.00 coupon code (11221FIXIT) bringing me down to $7.85. There is no sales tax unless you live in CA. Shipping was $3.17.
Long story short - I was tired of looking at the dust, tired of the HTC folks say "sorry, you voided your warranty" and "sorry, we only send you a refurbished device, not your own or a new one". So, I spent the $11 and I'm going to fix it on my own. WISH ME LUCK.
Here is the link to the teardown:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-One-Teardown/1654/1
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Weird. I have called HTC. I am on my second exchange from them with the same issue. Dust under the screen. I have yet to be asked if my bootloader is unlocked and they have not said anything about my warrenty being void. I am getting my second replacement phone tomorrow from HTC. I called them last night about 6PM PST.
k20a1 said:
oaky thanks ill keep that in mind
so its a pretty common problem then?
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i dont think it was a common problem at all. but then i have seen threads with many people havng this issue. so far my nexus has not had this issue at all and its over 3 months old. so i dont know. but i DO know that if you look in the iphone forums, dust under the screen threads are all over there too. even windows mobile forums have the same threads. so it seems like its a problem with most touch screen phones.
futango said:
Weird. I have called HTC. I am on my second exchange from them with the same issue. Dust under the screen. I have yet to be asked if my bootloader is unlocked and they have not said anything about my warrenty being void. I am getting my second replacement phone tomorrow from HTC. I called them last night about 6PM PST.
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They put a $500+ hold on your credit card. They won't tell you that you will lose that money if you've unlocked your bootloader. My guess is, they're hoping you've voided your warranty, sent in an unlocked phone, and now they keep the money. I also asked them how much it would cost to repair it... They estimated $179. BULL****.. I KNOW.
jagjr86 said:
They put a $500+ hold on your credit card. They won't tell you that you will lose that money if you've unlocked your bootloader. My guess is, they're hoping you've voided your warranty, sent in an unlocked phone, and now they keep the money. I also asked them how much it would cost to repair it... They estimated $179. BULL****.. I KNOW.
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Nah. Theres alredy a big thread about this. They do put a $530 hold on your CC. But the hold is gone once they receive the phone. If they WANT to charge you the its usually a $28 repair fee or you have a choice of sending back the replacement phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613115&highlight=dust
Re: Clean the DUST out from under the Screen!
oaky thanks ill keep that in mind
so its a pretty common problem then?
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I have my nexus for 3 months and there no dust under the screen. I have also a hero for 9 months and no dust there also. I saw the threads to maybe people work in dusty places or they have a loot of dust in their pockets
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If it's any consolation, I've had my replacement N1 since the 3rd week it was out... as someone said, as soon as I got it, I heated it up and pressed firmly all around the screen to make sure it was tightly sealed. It's still dust free today.
uansari1 said:
If it's any consolation, I've had my replacement N1 since the 3rd week it was out... as someone said, as soon as I got it, I heated it up and pressed firmly all around the screen to make sure it was tightly sealed. It's still dust free today.
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I will have to do this when I get my replacement N1 from HTC. I didnt do it with the first replacement and now theres just after 4 weeks of use.
k20a1 said:
how big of an issue is this on the nexus ones?
im planning on getting one and i dont want to get one if these problems are frequent
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I have been selling a couple a week at the cell phone store I work for, and haven't seen this on a single one of those. I would say all in all, I have sold about 20 Nexus One now.
Personally, I think the issue goes back to these shipping out during January during the coldest period of the winter, even having freezing temps all the way into Texas... I suspect that that phones got cold enough that through contraction and added brittleness of the adhesive in a cold state, the seal broke.
So, I decided to fix my G2 hinge which was a little on the loose side but didn't want to use magnets because it would affect the Compass. If you don't think magnets do affect the compass, i invite you to open up HTC or Google Navigation GPS app and wave a magnet around your phone and watch your direction change.
In any case, I looked for a teardown online in hopes that it would show the actual spring mechanism for the Z-Hinge...but all of them seemed to have skip that part. So...here's a photo of the ACTUAL MECHANISM responsible for the "snapping/springy" action of the phone. As you can imagine, assuming you can get to this point in terms of disassembly, tightening up the mechanism is SUPER EASY. All you have to do is take out the spring, stretch it, put it back in. I think the only way they could have made this mechanism smaller and more reliable is to have used a tiny hydraulic piston in place of the spring, but since I'm an EE and not a Mech Eng. well, what do I know!
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Link with instructions for taking apart your phone. You will need a T5 Screwdriver and a puny Phillips Screwdriver.
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down
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P.S. I can have the KB open, G2 upside down and shake it fairly vigorously before it will begin to close now! Definite improvement!
Damn...
Assuming you could find a spring small enough to fit you could buy a spring with a higher tension. That's what I did with my Ruger LCP to help the feeding cycle.
You could have taken a couple dissemblely pics to help us get to that point.
Thanks for the info.
Might want to add this voids warranty. Lol. Secondly if you could add some insight as to how you actually managed to disasemble the phone to access the hinge. That would be great. Might actually try this myself. Big might. Lol.
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luis86dr said:
Might want to add this voids warranty. Lol. Secondly if you could add some insight as to how you actually managed to disasemble the phone to access the hinge. That would be great. Might actually try this myself. Big might. Lol.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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Tear down is here...
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down
You only need to tear it down as far as PCB Removal to access the spring mechanism in the hinge (its the top side near the power button). BE SUPER DUPER careful with PLUGGING IN the micro-SD ribbon cable when you reassemble. One of the spring tension pins (its a flip up type ribbon cable clamp), broke off on me. I was like OMFG for about 2 minutes until I realized it was just the tension pin NOT an actual connection pin.
Oh yeah, and for anyone that hasn't figured this out already...WARRANTY = VOID!!! Oh, and the normal CYA (cover your a$$ clauses) apply...I'm not responsible for any damage etc. etc. etc. that YOU might cause doing this fix/mod.
verkion
verkion said:
Tear down is here...
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-z-tear-down
You only need to tear it down as far as PCB Removal to access the spring mechanism in the hinge (its the top side near the power button). BE SUPER DUPER careful with PLUGGING IN the micro-SD ribbon cable when you reassemble. One of the spring tension pins (its a flip up type ribbon cable clamp), broke off on me. I was like OMFG for about 2 minutes until I realized it was just the tension pin NOT an actual connection pin.
Oh yeah, and for anyone that hasn't figured this out already...WARRANTY = VOID!!! Oh, and the normal CYA (cover your a$$ clauses) apply...I'm not responsible for any damage etc. etc. etc. that YOU might cause doing this fix/mod.
verkion
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Thanks bro.
[G2/HTC Vision]
Excellent post, thanx
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Thanks for finding a REAL cure! Magnets lol! morons... nice work though! I glad you found a fix for those how have (or imagine they have) a hinge problem. maybe this will shut folks up about this finally...
Nice job man. Quite the set of balls you got there my friend. I may try this when my warranty expires.(and my hinge gets to a point where i can,t stand it.)
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Now I havn't tried magnets on this phone (or any other).. but I do know that the magnetic strength of magnetic tape, such as was used in the other "fix" is not very strong at all, as it barely strong enough to work as the fix it was intended to do, for this reason I could believe that it had no effect on the compass.
However sure, if you use a proper magnet it will mess things up.
However, very nice job on this but I doubt many will want to void their warranty when they could just send it back under warranty and do it that way.
Lennyuk said:
Now I havn't tried magnets on this phone (or any other).. but I do know that the magnetic strength of magnetic tape, such as was used in the other "fix" is not very strong at all, as it barely strong enough to work as the fix it was intended to do, for this reason I could believe that it had no effect on the compass.
However sure, if you use a proper magnet it will mess things up.
However, very nice job on this but I doubt many will want to void their warranty when they could just send it back under warranty and do it that way.
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You are correct about the warranty. Although there are a few stickers on the torx screws that say void... they won't refuse your phone and claim that your warranty is voided. Its bs. They just check for eextremely obvious things like water damage and physical damage. I was a cell tech forever... they hardly care about that crap like is its rooted or whatever. Just don't make it too obvious like a phone stuck in a boot loop with cyanogen logo flashing over and over, lol!
But it does depend on the tech... if he/she is an asshole and dont root their own phones or hack... they could reject it. personally, I think those are the type that have no buisness being a tech nor would understand that rooting a phone is going to cause any serious damage to it. unless you flash the wrong spl/hardboot but at that point... 90% likely it wont even boot into bootloader in which there's no way to tell what happened whether it was a custom flash or a bad board. those are instant replacements as long as there's no physical/liquid damage. well, sorry for hijacking the thread and my poor spelling. good work with the hinge, OP! those ribbons can be a pain to reseat!
I'm doing this tonight @ work. Thanks for being the guinea pig.
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dude great find....but way toooooooooo deep for me....If my hinge continues to drive me insane, I'll just start calling tmo like crazy until they give me a anew phone.
Stretching the spring is a good temporary fix. The best real fix would be to find one the same size but with a higher spring tension. Good find none the less.
So I HEARD something interesting today. TRY THIS....
1st: Turn Off Unlock sounds if you can.........
2nd. Put the G2 close to you face, open the screen (top) very SLOWLY.... when the screen is parallel to the keyboard (halfway) push it a little bit more and you will HEAR a CLICK..... im guessing its the spring... but my understanding is that if spring stays stationary (in one spot) and just twists..... there shouldn't be a click sound..... which means something is mis-aligned (maybe the hinge part that is connected to the spring)... my hinge came in good condition, still stays intact when I hold the phone upside down.
Those of you with loose hinge... I encourage you to try this....
funkadesi said:
So I HEARD something interesting today. TRY THIS....
1st: Turn Off Unlock sounds if you can.........
2nd. Put the G2 close to you face, open the screen (top) very SLOWLY.... when the screen is parallel to the keyboard (halfway) push it a little bit more and you will HEAR a CLICK..... im guessing its the spring... but my understanding is that if spring stays stationary (in one spot) and just twists..... there shouldn't be a click sound..... which means something is mis-aligned (maybe the hinge part that is connected to the spring)... my hinge came in good condition, still stays intact when I hold the phone upside down.
Those of you with loose hinge... I encourage you to try this....
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Um .... click? misaligned? i think that if it twists, then it should be in good shape as it's doing what it ought to be doing.
Either way, my hinge sucks, and there is no click....
I was just thinking about what the teardown again. Now that I really consider it, I don't think that I had to unplug all the cables, just unscrew the PCB. I think there is enough slack to carefully maneuver the hinge out..maybe. LOL. Where do you get replacement springs? I guess I should really have measured the length...maybe I still can from my photo and a couple reference points.
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Mine just started clicking when I open it..just started on Sunday and can't figure it out.
collins521 said:
Mine just started clicking when I open it..just started on Sunday and can't figure it out.
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Ignore the click...its not a "misalignment" of the spring or stars or whatever else. Look at the photo I posted, it doesn't matter if the spring twists. In fact, I'm pretty sure it does swivel and move in there. The back end of the spring is simply braced against the metal side. The other end against the actual "pivot" (2 pieces of very smartly cut plastic) is "centered" in place with a small pin jut like most other hinge/spring mechanisms.
Now if someone could tell me where to get a super strong spring...I'll be all over that! LOL. It was already really hard to get the spring back in after I stretched it but a mega strong one would be worth the hassle...
verkion
verkion said:
Ignore the click...its not a "misalignment" of the spring or stars or whatever else. Look at the photo I posted, it doesn't matter if the spring twists. In fact, I'm pretty sure it does swivel and move in there. The back end of the spring is simply braced against the metal side. The other end against the actual "pivot" (2 pieces of very smartly cut plastic) is "centered" in place with a small pin jut like most other hinge/spring mechanisms.
Now if someone could tell me where to get a super strong spring...I'll be all over that! LOL. It was already really hard to get the spring back in after I stretched it but a mega strong one would be worth the hassle...
verkion
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Check McMaster Carr. They have a ton of things.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#springs/=a1qb2j
verkion said:
Ignore the click...its not a "misalignment" of the spring or stars or whatever else. Look at the photo I posted, it doesn't matter if the spring twists. In fact, I'm pretty sure it does swivel and move in there. The back end of the spring is simply braced against the metal side. The other end against the actual "pivot" (2 pieces of very smartly cut plastic) is "centered" in place with a small pin jut like most other hinge/spring mechanisms.
Now if someone could tell me where to get a super strong spring...I'll be all over that! LOL. It was already really hard to get the spring back in after I stretched it but a mega strong one would be worth the hassle...
verkion
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So just to be sure....the stretching of the spring worked for you....you actually got it to be tight?
Well my Screen already went the way that some of us in the forum has went.
This really sucks, I have a workaround to make it work sometimes I just press a little hard in the bottom of the part that doesn't work, turn off the screen and then the phone works like new again but that is something that I don't like to do because it could damage the phone.
Here is a picture of the damaged part:
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Do you guys recommend me to buy this digitizer? : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251084340056
I REPEAT IS THE DIGITIZER NOT THE LCD, THE LCD IS WORKING EXCELENT, ALSO THE PHONE ( TEGRA ELITE )
Thanks for all and God bless you!
Is it the screen visually blanking out in that area or is it not touch sensitive in that area? If it is visually not displaying in that area of the screen you need to replace the LCD. If it is not touch sensitive then you would need to replace the digitizer. If your replacing the digitizer, I'd spend the extra $10 and buy a new one. The one that you linked to is used and looks like there is a scratch or a crack at the bottom. That's my two cents.
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Is it the screen visually blanking out in that area or is it not touch sensitive in that area? If it is visually not displaying in that area of the screen you need to replace the LCD. If it is not touch sensitive then you would need to replace the digitizer. If your replacing the digitizer, I'd spend the extra $10 and buy a new one. The one that you linked to is used and looks like there is a scratch or a crack at the bottom. That's my two cents.
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Lol I did not post the right one, I will change the link right now; is the ditigizer, I made everything to make it work and really it works but then it stop working after some time, I think this is related to the crappy digitizer and also the heat they recieve makes them unsusable after some time....
I had a similar problem (except my strip was horizontal), and I tried the PDS fix, new ROMs, and a pile of other calibration tools, and arrived at the conclusion that a warranty repair was needed. It sucks, but there are a bunch of folks on these boards with this exact problem. I think the digitizers were cheaply made.
As an aside, I got no static from Moto for having an unlocked bootloader (though I did flash the sbf before sending it in). Good luck to you.
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I had a similar problem (except my strip was horizontal), and I tried the PDS fix, new ROMs, and a pile of other calibration tools, and arrived at the conclusion that a warranty repair was needed. It sucks, but there are a bunch of folks on these boards with this exact problem. I think the digitizers were cheaply made.
As an aside, I got no static from Moto for having an unlocked bootloader (though I did flash the sbf before sending it in). Good luck to you.
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Yes but I don't have warranty so my only option is to buy the digitizer.
Got the same thing with mine... . Warranty only run out 2 weeks ago.. And wifi and headphone jack all stopped working in the last week
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I dropped my phone and cracked the screen.
I have that exact same digitizer from that seller with frame on its way to me, I bought one that was just the glass and had to be adhered to the existing frame, and the brand new OEM digitizer had dead zones. Hopefully this one will be a bit better.
I will let you know how it works!
I have bought two from these guys and could not be happier.
It's the easiest way to do the repair for sure. Just be prepared for a hard time with the ribbon cable if you have medium or above sized fingers.
It became much easier when I grabbed a pair of these...
There's something about the ribbon cable for the volume buttons being very fragile. I didn't have any trouble, just be aware, and if you have to mess with it be careful.
Oh, they ship it fast too!
JdgM3NT4L said:
I have bought two from these guys and could not be happier.
It's the easiest way to do the repair for sure. Just be prepared for a hard time with the ribbon cable if you have medium or above sized fingers.
It became much easier when I grabbed a pair of these...
There's something about the ribbon cable for the volume buttons being very fragile. I didn't have any trouble, just be aware, and if you have to mess with it be careful.
Oh, they ship it fast too!
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Wait, two?, so the same happened with two screen already to you? also did you have any problems with touch after you replaced for the new one? Thanks and sorry for all the questions. lol
tomh235 said:
I dropped my phone and cracked the screen.
I have that exact same digitizer from that seller with frame on its way to me, I bought one that was just the glass and had to be adhered to the existing frame, and the brand new OEM digitizer had dead zones. Hopefully this one will be a bit better.
I will let you know how it works!
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Okay thanks please let me know =) I will buy it next week (Monday)
i got caught in the same trouble! exactly the same place
it is temporarily solved when i flashed it with the 4.5.9.141 service pack(im still in the official rom and bootloader locked!)
So i think the problem should be attributed to the drivers!
gooyyaoyao said:
i got caught in the same trouble! exactly the same place
it is temporarily solved when i flashed it with the 4.5.9.141 service pack(im still in the official rom and bootloader locked!)
So i think the problem should be attributed to the drivers!
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I don't think is the same problem as yours =P.
I just punched my digitizer the other day and everyting started working again (LOL ) But after a fews minutes it stopped working again. So I don't think an official ROM with LOCKED bootloader will solve my problem. =D
Anyways I'm buying a new digitizer tomorrow from this link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251084340056
Also one more question guys...
Do I need anything else? Because I have some links on Amazon about "2mm Tape" and other about "Digitizer atrix Touch Screen adhesive" OR Does this one no need the tape because it already comes with the Frames and with the Adhesive?; Can someone confirm please.
Thanks for all and God bless you.
Did you look at the screen replacement guide thread? Everything you need to know is there.
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Also one more question guys...
Do I need anything else? Because I have some links on Amazon about "2mm Tape" and other about "Digitizer atrix Touch Screen adhesive" OR Does this one no need the tape because it already comes with the Frames and with the Adhesive?; Can someone confirm please.
Thanks for all and God bless you.
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There shouldn't be any need for adhesive as the only adhesive needed is to stick the glass to the frame and its already attached. My last tracking update was in Atlanta on the 13th, so hopefully it is in the UK by now and clearing customs! I'm looking foreward to getting my phone back working!
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There shouldn't be any need for adhesive as the only adhesive needed is to stick the glass to the frame and its already attached. My last tracking update was in Atlanta on the 13th, so hopefully it is in the UK by now and clearing customs! I'm looking foreward to getting my phone back working!
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So then I don't need anything than just replace it =D that's pretty nice, I just bought it this morning, I can't wait to see my phone working again, I want to test CM7 Offcial for Atrix but I just can't...
Thanks for all and God bless you.
I got a solution and its free. Depends if you wanna risk it. Gonna post solution later
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I got a solution and its free. Depends if you wanna risk it. Gonna post solution later
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Let's risk! lol, anyways my new one is coming, so let's risk .
Temporary Solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719653
Screen came this morning and fitted no problem, was much easier to fit than the standard ones you get which require a hairdryer and glue. It looks perfect and works perfect!
After over a month I am so happy to have my phone working again!
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The Digitizer just arrived and I replaced it with no problem, I don't know why people say that the ribbons are a problem, they didn't (I don't have bigger hands!). Also in order to put the new one I had to break the old digitizer inside, not outside so it can be used again if my new digitizer brokes (What I don't want never that to happen).
Thanks for all your help and God bless you all.