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my 1 week old Imate almost everyday gives me a black screen with no response what so ever from its buttons. even removing the battery does not help! I have to then hard reset the damn thing inorder for it to be back in business.
Any thoughts
note: running both firmwares didnt help 1.72 and 1.66
Take off either wisbar or spb software, (if you have any installed). When I used to have wisbar advance and today plus running together, somehow they always trigger a hard reset. Using one or the other helps. I'm using today plus 2.0 only because it has its own task manager.
hm..
I also han Hard Reset
I had installed Spb Pocket Plus,is this a problem?
AND plz. Everyone WHO had HARD RESET on I-mate/XDA2/Qtec 2020/MDA 2 TELL US WHAT PROGRAMM was a case of Hard Reset :idea:
My same old story...
After a week of usage... it auto hard reset...fully loaded with softwares.
Didn't have time to install any software and it hard reset two days later at abt the same time. Funny why this happen when the set has only factory default softwares.
Did some checking at PDA stores and there are many possibilities to this.
One of them is not properly following the 8hr charging time when it is new and also overnight charging. To solve it is to charge it until its full and disconnect the charger. Do this for a week and see what happens.
So far, my set never once auto hard reset again after i follow this routine.
Hope this helps....
thanx for an advice. :idea:
dead......
I just installed EasyTweak on a i-Mate v.1.72 and it went completely dead.
had to take the bat out for some minutes for it to recognise the hard-reset......
i'm gonna cry......
I am getting a similar problem with my 1 week old XDAII. It is all absolutely fine, and then suddenly it won't switch on or soft reset so I have to hard reset and restore a previous backup.
I thought it iwas battery related, but after hard reset, the battery is still got enough charge.
Any help greatly appreciated.
This is crazy!! exacly the same folks, my 1 week old XDA2 have been hard reset like 20 times!!! everything works fine and suddently I can´t turn it on and the soft reset doesn´t work. So hard reset and start all over again untill the next hard reset that can overcome within hours or 1 day time.
What I´m I gonna do.... it´s the second unit I´m testing.... and the same in both
Bill (from Spain)
Me too
Every week, keeps hard reset, I tried everything, every ROM, and nothing. At this time my phone is Hong Kong (yes I send it!) going to a Service center to see what they can do. I saw a xda2 from a friend and his got a New ROM that isn't avaliable ate www.myxda.com .... Any sugestions? and I yeard about Windows Mobile third edition
Can't stop the hard reset?
BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP!
I'm using Sprite Backup...its so much faster than the stock ones and best thing is it saves as an exe file. All you need to do is backup to the SD card and you're safe.
I have same experience:
I was doing fine when I went overseas over the weekend. As I was travelling, I powered off. And after an hour or so, I was unable to power on. It has nothing to do with the battery. No button or soft reset can bring up the screen. Only hard reset.
Note that I don't have such a problem when I power off at night. And both my batteries were charged >8hrs at new and I stop charging my battery when it reaches 100%. Not to mention I changed the battery as I thought it was due to no power. So, not a battery problem.
I don't think it is the software problem either, as after hard reset, I still get that problem when I powered off for an hour.
I did notice something on my 2nd encounter: the Phone app was up because I received a call. After I powered off, it stuck. At night, I closed all my apps and power off at the Today. I wonder if that is the cause. :roll:
Suggestion for those that have the same problem:
either
1) don't power off with your Phone apps running - close it totally
or
2) run Windows Media and turn off your screen or run some Display Off utility instead of power off
HTH
Hi all:
Yes, I uninstalled the spb utility and now the xda seems to work better plus the battery last twice as much as before with the spb utilities!!!
On the other hand I installed the sprite backup and it´s much faster than the build in app.
I hope it doesn´t hard reset anymore, but still testing it, only 24 hours without hard reset, I´ll confirm it after 3 or 4 days of smooth work...
See u
Bill
does any one know how we solve this damn bug !!
my 2 weeks old Qtek 2020 that i bought from london. crashes down and without reason performs hard reset every couple of days, i have backups but it is very frustrating, and all the time i have a feeling that the system is not stable.
my device info are :
rom version 1.66.00 wwe
rom date 02/20/04
radio version 1.10.00
protocol version 1337.18
extrom version 1.66.130
do i need to update the rom to solve the problem and if so what is the link to it
or are there any other suggstions how to solve the problem
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It might be for the following reasons:
1) some software you installed hard reset it or caused it to hard reset
2) the battery is not working properly or you left it to dry up
3) faulty hardware
Cheers
if it were faulty hardware then it's odd that a hardreset always works
Hmmm, sounding all to familiar. My XDA2, 1.66.00 WWE, had it a month, been back to o2 once and is on the way back now. I was having loads of problems with the thing freezing, mainly when taking it out of my pocket, turning on and not being able to do anything. I even ran it for a month with no extra software at all and it kept happening. Lets hope the service center can pin the problem down soon as ive currently had hardly any use out of the thing.
could it have something to do with the 2003 issue with not baing able to run more then 13 or how much was it processes
maybe some process get killed which is needed to turn on somehow
it would explain why people seem to get it more often if they have fancy today and skinning items which also have their own processes
I am beginning to thing this 'bug' relates to the battery.
I have charged my XDAII overnight for a week and it seems to be Ok since then !
to those who have unintentional hard resets on their XDA2, did you all upgraded your rom by yourselves? my XDA2 is just 3 days and i want to be extra careful with mine as i just installed tons of softwares today.
it's been awhile since my hardreset itself last
and my xda2 still have the 1.66 rom that it came with
Running Midget crossbow wm6
I checked all of the posts on Universal and there is no information leading to any easy solution. After installing SPG pocket plus everything seemed fine. To be sure its all ok even after soft reset I use SPB pocket plus "Soft reset button" on today screen. After soft reset there is no Today screen. Only windows logo. Power button does switch off and on the device. Green light is flashing as it has reception. Took SD card and sim card off, soft reset it but still hangs on Windows mobile green logo.
I was hoping there could be some sort of information how to get to SPB pocket plus SAFE MODE. No matter when i reset it, no option to get to safe mode is given. Any ideas apart from Hard reset?
PS: After Hard reset, do I loose all sms? Are they synchronised somewhere on my desktop PC?
safe mofe
why after istalliing spb pocket plus and soft reset device work on "SAFE MODE"?
and start up slow working?
No Safe Mode after Soft Reset when SPB pocket plus installed
After a Soft reset using SPB pocket plus button on Today screen windows got stuck on windows mobile boot screen, no change after 20 minutes. I guess SPB pocket plus just messed up today screen and hard reset is needed. So much for SAFE mode. SPB pocket plus will not be my favourite aplication for sure. So there is no magical button combination to solve this?
I too is using pocketplus and didnt had ne prob from last 2 months , i m sure ur startup folder is messed up or u must have deleted ne other startup file which is causing it to hang at startup .
I'm assuming that you installed Pocket Plus in the main memory and not your SD card...? You must install it to the main memory...at least to avoid (most) startup problems. I was able to get it running off the SD card, but only briefly. To do so, I had to adjust the order of my startup services...sending the SDdaemon to the front of the line and Pocket Plus to the end of the line. Still this is not recommended as Pocket Plus weaves itself into the startup services pretty tightly.
I uninstalled the software and reinstalled in the main memory with much better stability.
To get my unit to boot up when it snagged at startup, I had to soft reset 2-3 times and it ultimately started okay. After which I performed the uninstall to move the application from the SD card to the main memory. I wasn't completely set up with all of my software, otherwise I would have tried to use Pocket Mechanic's Relocate function to see if I could move it that way. Anyone else done this and can add their experience to this thread?
Good luck!!!
Hi,
seems I have nailed down one situation, when trion refused to boot through. Whenever I have WLAN active and the system hangs (happened last time today when trying to start up avantgo) its very likely the xda won't boot correctly after soft reset.
Usually I solved it by going to bootloader and softreset again. Today this didn't help, also booting with and without SIM/battery in all combinations didn't help.
So I connected the phone in bootloader mode and sent some commands via mtty.
Don't know why, but this helped the phone to boot again. Weird.
Now - is there a way to switch off WLAN via mtty in case it happens again?
Dirk
P.S.: never give up when the xda hangs, I refuse to use a hard reset (unfortunately it required xx reboot trials and 1 hour of my time...)
Hi,
still there are occasions, where my TyTN hangs at Windows Mobile screen while booting. I couldn't find any system behind it...
I had several suspicions:
- HTweakC while Power Saver Tweak was enabled,
- pBar, when being set to automatically load,
In both cases, removing this options seemed to help, but shortly after that the hangs came up again.
Did anybody else also experience frequently hangs while booting and could isolate some reasons for that?
P.S.:
I know some of the hangs are related with today plugins. The only I have currently is Birthdays 1.2.10. I just removed this as well, but the XDA seems to hang after the reboot again.
How likely are hangs at bootup time hardware related?
Is it a common problem with AKU2.3 and could an upgrade to 3.3 help?
I just don't want to mess around and waste a lot of time - would you suggest to send it in for repair?
(My operator claims, that I should do a hard reset. After that everything is fine. But why should I use an XDA without adding any more program and risking that behaviour?)
thedsp said:
How likely are hangs at bootup time hardware related?
Is it a common problem with AKU2.3 and could an upgrade to 3.3 help?
I just don't want to mess around and waste a lot of time - would you suggest to send it in for repair?
(My operator claims, that I should do a hard reset. After that everything is fine. But why should I use an XDA without adding any more program and risking that behaviour?)
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I have only ever had one hang on boot up. I have AKU 2.3. Used to get lots of freezing at other times, but it appears I have cured all that and it has settled down very nicely. I also have several today plugins spread over multiple desktops using WAD.
I just wonder (and I am no expert here) whether you may have a little corruption in boot up files. Have you actually tried a hard reset yet?
Having learned several lessons I took mine back to scratch with a hard reset and used SPB backup at each stage as I reloaded software. This way I am able to return to a nicely working setup (within 5 minutes) if I load something duff along the way.
Mike
Yep, did a hard reset and installed some programs. I will try to adopt your way of adding programs. Even if it takes a lot of extra time. Now I need at least 5-6 soft resets, until one works.
However - did anyone ever notice, that sometimes between the operator splash screen and windows mobile splash screen, there is a scrambled splash screen with vertical lines in windows mobile splash screen colors?
thedsp said:
Yep, did a hard reset and installed some programs. I will try to adopt your way of adding programs. Even if it takes a lot of extra time. Now I need at least 5-6 soft resets, until one works.
However - did anyone ever notice, that sometimes between the operator splash screen and windows mobile splash screen, there is a scrambled splash screen with vertical lines in windows mobile splash screen colors?
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Do I understand you correctly - even after hard reset you still need several soft reset attempts to get it going?
Mike
Hi,
no... if its "O2 virgin" ROM its working.
okay, seems to answer my question regarding HW problem. It seems not to be one.
This is the SW I then installed (maybe in different order):
- Avantgo
- Flashplayer 7
- tcpmp
- SPB Gprs monitor (came with the hardware)
- Clearvue PDF viewer (came with the hardware)
- Birthdays plugin
- HTweakC
- SK Tools
- pBar
I removed battery and communication manager Icon from frontscreen with HTweakC and tried the battery saving tweak. More I can't remember.
I will pay attention now with setting it up again. Did some of the above ring a bell?
dirk
thedsp said:
Hi,
no... if its "O2 virgin" ROM its working.
okay, seems to answer my question regarding HW problem. It seems not to be one.
This is the SW I then installed (maybe in different order):
- Avantgo
- Flashplayer 7
- tcpmp
- SPB Gprs monitor (came with the hardware)
- Clearvue PDF viewer (came with the hardware)
- Birthdays plugin
- HTweakC
- SK Tools
- pBar
I removed battery and communication manager Icon from frontscreen with HTweakC and tried the battery saving tweak. More I can't remember.
I will pay attention now with setting it up again. Did some of the above ring a bell?
dirk
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Nothing obvious but I wonder about pbar given it appears to monitor a lot of actions and will load at start up.
I'd also do the following with backups before and after. It's a pain doing some of this from scratch if things go pear shaped.
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Mike
OK, I did something dumb. I went in and activated OMAPClock via Smartskey without fully testing the limits of my MDA. I'm sure you know what's coming next... now my phone won't boot. It usually will get as far as painting the Today screen but it completely freezes at that point.
Other than a hard reset, is there any way that I can get my phone up and running? I'm thinking of something like safe mode on a Windows PC, where I can bypass the stuff in Startup. Or is there any other way to block Smartskey or OMAPClock from starting automatically? If there were some way to get at the config file for Smartskey I could fix it as well.
Thanks in advance...
The only way to get safe mode is if you already have a program installed that has that function. There are a few out there, one being pocket mechanic and I can't think of what the others are off hand but if google for ppc safe mode you'll find them. Unfortunately if you don't have one of them already installed you're most likely in for a hard reset. I don't exactly trust safe mode on my wizard anyway, the one time I tried it out it wouldn't come out of it. It just kept rebooting in safe mode after that and I ended up doing a hard reset anyway.
As far as i know hard reset is your option. but thats me saying
I myself had this problem when i first started to use my phone and i found out that there is no safe mode but there is programs that have this option
Edit: xeno1 beat me to it
HR and recosider using safemode tool.....
Hi There
I've been using Helmi WM6 R0 and its been working like an absolute beauty, until just now. I had a call, it hung. I tried to soft reset which is it did, it goes past the 4 colour stripe screen then shows windows mobile screen and stuck!!!!!! nothing more. Tried soft resetting loads of times but nothing....please can any1 assist!!
Perform hard reset, read wiki about howto
Do I have to?
Please say there is another way around it.....please.....
If you want to get your data from the storage memory there is only one other way: Use hammer, rip off the flash and send it to Ontrack or other data recovery company.
If the value of data is lover than device itself, just perform HR and... remember about backup.
Hey man, I've had the exact same thing on mine with WM5 half a year ago, I was able to reboot it after (I believe) the 17th or 18th reset, but flashed another ROM on there afterwards,
Must say, if you should have SPB Plus installed you can press and hold the windows mobile screen and it will boot in safe mode...
Besides this, sorry, no option, unless if you just want to retrieve data on there, press record + camera button on the 4 colored boot screen and clear your registry, this should normally leave everything on the storage... But all the apps installed afterwards won't load anymore of course...
Regards,
backup....
whilst we on the sore point of backup.....wats the easiest, best, free backup option for wm6? (btw plz dont murder have not searched)
Cerr
Don't really know, always try to have all on my pc (contacts - calendar) so after synchro all is back immediatly, the easiest way if you wanna flash your device on every Rom that gets posted here
But you might have a look at one of these perhaps
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-backup.html
Greetings