Hi,
seems I have nailed down one situation, when trion refused to boot through. Whenever I have WLAN active and the system hangs (happened last time today when trying to start up avantgo) its very likely the xda won't boot correctly after soft reset.
Usually I solved it by going to bootloader and softreset again. Today this didn't help, also booting with and without SIM/battery in all combinations didn't help.
So I connected the phone in bootloader mode and sent some commands via mtty.
Don't know why, but this helped the phone to boot again. Weird.
Now - is there a way to switch off WLAN via mtty in case it happens again?
Dirk
P.S.: never give up when the xda hangs, I refuse to use a hard reset (unfortunately it required xx reboot trials and 1 hour of my time...)
Hi,
still there are occasions, where my TyTN hangs at Windows Mobile screen while booting. I couldn't find any system behind it...
I had several suspicions:
- HTweakC while Power Saver Tweak was enabled,
- pBar, when being set to automatically load,
In both cases, removing this options seemed to help, but shortly after that the hangs came up again.
Did anybody else also experience frequently hangs while booting and could isolate some reasons for that?
P.S.:
I know some of the hangs are related with today plugins. The only I have currently is Birthdays 1.2.10. I just removed this as well, but the XDA seems to hang after the reboot again.
How likely are hangs at bootup time hardware related?
Is it a common problem with AKU2.3 and could an upgrade to 3.3 help?
I just don't want to mess around and waste a lot of time - would you suggest to send it in for repair?
(My operator claims, that I should do a hard reset. After that everything is fine. But why should I use an XDA without adding any more program and risking that behaviour?)
thedsp said:
How likely are hangs at bootup time hardware related?
Is it a common problem with AKU2.3 and could an upgrade to 3.3 help?
I just don't want to mess around and waste a lot of time - would you suggest to send it in for repair?
(My operator claims, that I should do a hard reset. After that everything is fine. But why should I use an XDA without adding any more program and risking that behaviour?)
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I have only ever had one hang on boot up. I have AKU 2.3. Used to get lots of freezing at other times, but it appears I have cured all that and it has settled down very nicely. I also have several today plugins spread over multiple desktops using WAD.
I just wonder (and I am no expert here) whether you may have a little corruption in boot up files. Have you actually tried a hard reset yet?
Having learned several lessons I took mine back to scratch with a hard reset and used SPB backup at each stage as I reloaded software. This way I am able to return to a nicely working setup (within 5 minutes) if I load something duff along the way.
Mike
Yep, did a hard reset and installed some programs. I will try to adopt your way of adding programs. Even if it takes a lot of extra time. Now I need at least 5-6 soft resets, until one works.
However - did anyone ever notice, that sometimes between the operator splash screen and windows mobile splash screen, there is a scrambled splash screen with vertical lines in windows mobile splash screen colors?
thedsp said:
Yep, did a hard reset and installed some programs. I will try to adopt your way of adding programs. Even if it takes a lot of extra time. Now I need at least 5-6 soft resets, until one works.
However - did anyone ever notice, that sometimes between the operator splash screen and windows mobile splash screen, there is a scrambled splash screen with vertical lines in windows mobile splash screen colors?
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Do I understand you correctly - even after hard reset you still need several soft reset attempts to get it going?
Mike
Hi,
no... if its "O2 virgin" ROM its working.
okay, seems to answer my question regarding HW problem. It seems not to be one.
This is the SW I then installed (maybe in different order):
- Avantgo
- Flashplayer 7
- tcpmp
- SPB Gprs monitor (came with the hardware)
- Clearvue PDF viewer (came with the hardware)
- Birthdays plugin
- HTweakC
- SK Tools
- pBar
I removed battery and communication manager Icon from frontscreen with HTweakC and tried the battery saving tweak. More I can't remember.
I will pay attention now with setting it up again. Did some of the above ring a bell?
dirk
thedsp said:
Hi,
no... if its "O2 virgin" ROM its working.
okay, seems to answer my question regarding HW problem. It seems not to be one.
This is the SW I then installed (maybe in different order):
- Avantgo
- Flashplayer 7
- tcpmp
- SPB Gprs monitor (came with the hardware)
- Clearvue PDF viewer (came with the hardware)
- Birthdays plugin
- HTweakC
- SK Tools
- pBar
I removed battery and communication manager Icon from frontscreen with HTweakC and tried the battery saving tweak. More I can't remember.
I will pay attention now with setting it up again. Did some of the above ring a bell?
dirk
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Nothing obvious but I wonder about pbar given it appears to monitor a lot of actions and will load at start up.
I'd also do the following with backups before and after. It's a pain doing some of this from scratch if things go pear shaped.
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Mike
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Hi, I'v got O2 XDA Mini S and a "little" problem with it. I'v just installed Phone Profiles [Second Edition] 8.0 and it crashed my phone. After installation (on my memory card), I could not see it on my today screen...so I'v tried to configure it in today screen configuration - but I could not get there - the configuration we're not accessible (it crashed). So after that, soft reset. And the real problem began. After the boot screen and "windows mobile welcome screen" the mobile just freezes. Active sync on my PC connects to it just for a second, then disconnects. The Phone Profiles [Second Edition] 8.0 is installed on my memory card, so I'v removed the memory card - the same problem. It was annoying - so hard reset....does not help. I have Wisbar Advance 2 as well, which is starting first and I can see only the welcome screen of it (sometimes it loads and I can see the whole skin). Sometimes (after reboot) I can see the menu, today screen etc. but the phone freezes. I think that the Phone Profiles [Second Edition] 8.0 is freezing the phone after his process starts. Is there anything like "safe mode" start or something like that, which could help me to remove this soft ? Or any other way to normally start the phone ? Any ideas ? Many thanks for help.
It should start after hard reset - phone profiles, wisbar advance will not load after a proper hard reset - the phone will be back to factory condition.
Did you do proper hard reset? After that it sounds like phone profiles should be installed to device memory not storage card. Most today plugins only work properly on device memory.
I'v done the hard reset (I think it was done properly - comm manager and voice command button pressed in the same time and then reset button). But after I'v pressed these buttons, nothing specially happend....the phone was still off. So I'v turned it on....and there were no changes with the software - still the same. Maybe I'm doing the hard reset wrong ?
leez said:
I'v done the hard reset (I think it was done properly - comm manager and voice command button pressed in the same time and then reset button). But after I'v pressed these buttons, nothing specially happend....the phone was still off. So I'v turned it on....and there were no changes with the software - still the same. Maybe I'm doing the hard reset wrong ?
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Yep sounds like hard reset is not done. Press these 2 buttons but keep them pressed and dont let go - then press reset with the tip of the stylus and then text should come on the screen with black background. Press green (call) button and hard reset will commence.
Or you can first turn device off - then press the 2 buttons and keep them held and press power on to reach the same screen.
Ok, I'v done it. Many, many thanks for help. The phone manual is wrong (!). . Anyway Phone Profiles [Second Edition] 8.0....WTF is that ? This program just crashed my phone and I need to reinstall all the soft. Wrrr. And I just wanted a profile manager . Thanks again for help ! :mrgreen:
Good, I am glad - try the one I use - its free http://www.winmobileapps.com/device/pocketpc/plt/plt_download.aspx
Nice one, got it. Thanks.
Hi I have problems with my PDA, it become crazy. When I was speaking, conversation somehow ended and my pda freezed, I did a soft reset and called again and was the same situation. And when I turning on my screen with Turn On button also starts fuction what is setted on right soft key, I did hard reset and cleared storage, but still the same. What may be with my pda?
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Hi I have problems with my PDA, it become crazy. When I was speaking, conversation somehow ended and my pda freezed, I did a soft reset and called again and was the same situation. And when I turning on my screen with Turn On button also starts fuction what is setted on right soft key, I did hard reset and cleared storage, but still the same. What may be with my pda?
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You have not given us any relevant information at all to help with troubleshooting your device. You won't get any helpful answers until you at least give us some information such as but not limited to:
Your Carrier
Your Rom version
Your Radio version
Are you CID unlocked
Are you SIM unlocked
What apps do you have installed
What today screen plugins are you using
How often does the lockup happen
Your IPL/SPL
Are you a G3 or G4
What have you read to try and help yourself first
And as you will probably hear alot of read read read. I would suggest that before you do anything more drastic than a hard reset of your device you read all the stickies in this forum, virtually every question that you can come up with has been asked and answered multiple times in those threads.
The pda didnt fall, if u asking that
ROM: 2.21.2.6 WWE
Radio: 02.19.11
CID: unlocked
SIM: unlocked
Apps instaled: Airscanner antivirus, WifiFoFum,
Webcamera plus, DivX player, Pocket Ringo, Monopoly, XCPUScalar,
Flash player ActiveX, Net CF 2.0, PTvncWM5, pmClean, Resco explorer,
iLauncher, Skype, Spb backup, Spb phone suite, Vicsoft CurrencyConv
Today scrn plugins:
iLauncher, SPB phone suite
The lockup startd after these freezing's, and it dont stops.
I'v got G4.
I reading this forum but didint found anything, that why posted
If I read that right, I think maybe he has a stuck key (the right soft key). There may be some dirt or something holding the key down. You might try shutting the phone off and then gently pressing the key repeatedly until you feel it come loose or use a toothpick and clean in between the keys. Dont get too proddy with it though, you don't want to damage anything. If that doesn't help, somewhere on here is the manual for taking your wizard apart and you can clean it that way.
Ok I'll try that
hi,
i recently wanted to simply restart my qtek s200 (g3), it stops at the blue windows mobile boot screen and just hangs and does nothing (i've waited for hours).
I am not using any mods, simply the original rom/software. The only thing extra installed is 3rd party software and the home screen from the new htc touch (i've have been using it for some time now, and yes, i have been able to reboot several times during that period).
I have no idea why it isn't working anymore since I have been using it in an ordinary fashion and have not installed any software lately...
What I have tried so far:
- soft reset
- removing battery, sd card, sim card
- hard reset is impossible due to the fact that my comm button no longer functions.
Any ideas how I can get this phone to boot in windows again?
If there is no "normal" way, then a hard reset would also work for me as the phone contains no important data.
Let me know if you need more info.
Thanks!
thierry86 said:
hi,
i recently wanted to simply restart my qtek s200 (g3), it stops at the blue windows mobile boot screen and just hangs and does nothing (i've waited for hours).
I am not using any mods, simply the original rom/software. The only thing extra installed is 3rd party software and the home screen from the new htc touch (i've have been using it for some time now, and yes, i have been able to reboot several times during that period).
I have no idea why it isn't working anymore since I have been using it in an ordinary fashion and have not installed any software lately...
What I have tried so far:
- soft reset
- removing battery, sd card, sim card
- hard reset is impossible due to the fact that my comm button no longer functions.
Any ideas how I can get this phone to boot in windows again?
If there is no "normal" way, then a hard reset would also work for me as the phone contains no important data.
Let me know if you need more info.
Thanks!
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Since no hard reset is available... try removing the battery for the whole night.
If you do manage to get to windows then watch out for the startup folder, you're probably overloading the memory at startup.(htc home and psxut eat a lot at startup and windows as well)
i have removed the battery, sim and sd, and just left it there the whole night, but it still won't go further than the windows boot screen...
any suggestions ?
is is possible to do a hard reset by connecting it to usb and enter the bootloader somehow ? if yes, how ?
thanks!
hi,
have you tryed entering bootloader by the normal process?
"Hold down the camera button and reset the device. (Boot Loader Mode is: Press Camera + Soft Reset, then release soft reset and keep pressing camera button till appear the Boot Loader.)"
regards
yes, I can get into the bootloader, I can then also connect with USB with a notification at the bottom of the screen saying it's connected. However, I have no idea what to do afterwards ...
thierry86 said:
yes, I can get into the bootloader, I can then also connect with USB with a notification at the bottom of the screen saying it's connected. However, I have no idea what to do afterwards ...
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Okay then there is still hope.. When you have connected the device run an opdate tool like the NVID WM5 Rom.. that should work as a hard reset..
are there any working links available for this ? rapidshare seems to have disabled this...
thanks!
thierry86 said:
yes, I can get into the bootloader, I can then also connect with USB with a notification at the bottom of the screen saying it's connected. However, I have no idea what to do afterwards ...
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As long as you are able to enter bootloader then you can flash it with any old prophet rom. I had the same issue after installing WM6 rom. I used a Spanish rom on wiki to bring it back and then installed WM6 VII touch. So far it has worked well for a week.
HTC 6tab Home screen killed my 818pro!!!!!!
Here is what happened a few days back. My 818pro (aka prophet) suddenly heat up while not in use 3 days ago. I thought it was caused by the hot weather in my country (I was driving with aircond in full blast). The heating up eventually go away. Then 2 day later, after I put down a call, my phone just frozen / hung. Hence, I do a soft reset & guess what It never recovered & stop at the black screen with the dopod logo while restarting. Some service centre I visited told me that the main memory chip need replacement & reflash!!! I can't even see the window screen. I have use the HTC 6tab for 2 months & I am very sure it's the culprit here. Hopefully you are not having the same problem like me
Try plug in the ac charger before u do soft reset. My phone need it in order to restart after soft reset (after I started using the HTC 6tab Home Screen).
That is before my phone die yesterday
Hi There
I've been using Helmi WM6 R0 and its been working like an absolute beauty, until just now. I had a call, it hung. I tried to soft reset which is it did, it goes past the 4 colour stripe screen then shows windows mobile screen and stuck!!!!!! nothing more. Tried soft resetting loads of times but nothing....please can any1 assist!!
Perform hard reset, read wiki about howto
Do I have to?
Please say there is another way around it.....please.....
If you want to get your data from the storage memory there is only one other way: Use hammer, rip off the flash and send it to Ontrack or other data recovery company.
If the value of data is lover than device itself, just perform HR and... remember about backup.
Hey man, I've had the exact same thing on mine with WM5 half a year ago, I was able to reboot it after (I believe) the 17th or 18th reset, but flashed another ROM on there afterwards,
Must say, if you should have SPB Plus installed you can press and hold the windows mobile screen and it will boot in safe mode...
Besides this, sorry, no option, unless if you just want to retrieve data on there, press record + camera button on the 4 colored boot screen and clear your registry, this should normally leave everything on the storage... But all the apps installed afterwards won't load anymore of course...
Regards,
backup....
whilst we on the sore point of backup.....wats the easiest, best, free backup option for wm6? (btw plz dont murder have not searched)
Cerr
Don't really know, always try to have all on my pc (contacts - calendar) so after synchro all is back immediatly, the easiest way if you wanna flash your device on every Rom that gets posted here
But you might have a look at one of these perhaps
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-backup.html
Greetings
Hi guys,
I had a problem with my HTC Home plugin... I reinstalled another version (hermes 2.1) which didn't work perfectly (no profile icons). I then installed another version (Kaiser) which worked fine. I noticed that I had the other one still in my installed SW list and I removed it.
Apparently something went wrong here because now my phone gets stuck in "enter pincode" screen... the touchscreen responds (ligths up) and the stanby mode works as well but I can't enter my pincode (not even with the keypad). I can't connect to it anymore with my cable.
Anybody any ideas on how I can access my phone again??
Thx!
Berre
Assuming you took a backup before you started playing, I would suggest a hard reset.
You did use one of the free tools available here for backing up, didn't you?
One learns these things the hard way (I speak from experience).
Can you still use active synv?
Smiffy.
Off course I didn't
Well I didn't think I could crash my phone by un/reinstalling a today screen... My only mistake was that I didn't disable it before I started "playing"
Indeed lesson learned, in the meantime I've performed a hard reset and I'm reinstalling all my sw/tweaks
This topic can be removed
Thx
Berre