Hi,
I recently bought a used O2 Atom, and the first thing I made was to upgrade the latest ROM (Oct2006).
Sometimes it looses the GSM signal, even if the PPC is on the table in standby mode, it just tell me "No signal", the "antenna" in title bar keeps with no bars.
I'm about to downgrade to the an older ROM (20060426), but I'm unsure if it as hardware problem or a incompatible ROM.
Anybody experienced something like that?
thank you
Aldoir
Confirmed
20060426B1WWE_RS00049 (the original one) works fine
20060426B1WWE_RS00052 (Oct2006) the radio becomes unstable ;(
Here are the files which brought some people's Touch Cruise back to life.
Warning: Don't forget to HardSPL before using these!!!
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This is all the stuff you need:
Murata Radio-ONLY ROM:
http://rapidshare.com/files/141524518/Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23.rar
Custom RUU (by udK) to avoid hardreset after flashing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376119
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Optional links for reading if you are interested:
Original shipped ROM by Murata Electronics:
Warning: This ROM will change your language to Russian, if you have only reception problems, use Radio-ONLY ROM above!
http://rapidshare.com/files/141527497/RUU_Polaris_HTC_RUS_1.25.411.1_radio_sign_25.65.30.04_1.58.21.23_polaris_murata_Ship.exe
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if you have 4 bars in 2G mode, then nothing is wrong with your reception level. 3G mode is completely different from 2G mode all together. having 2-3 bars in 3G mode is perfectly normal. 3G coverage is week in general. You have nothing to be concerned about really.
In my situation I was having 1-2 bars in 2G mode and 1-2 bars in 3G mode. (Polaris). Also, in 3G mode signal frequently was degrated to the level where radio would automatically fallback to 2G mode and stay there. We have practicaly entire HTC range at our disposal. Every single HTC phone that has been manufactured Himalaya inclusive. As soon as I have noticed week GSM signal on Polaris, I have checked few others for the same issue, namely:
Kaiser, Wings, Niki, Excalibur, Cavalier, Himalaya, Pharos, Hermes, Trinity, VOX, Herald and few others.
Also, please note: Kaiser, Wings, Niki and Polaris were running indentical radio: stock standard 1.58.21.23. we keep our handsets consistent accross the board as much as we can.
Kaiser, Niki and Wings produced excellent reception quality results with full 3-4 bars in 2G and 3+ bars in 3G mode.(UMTS 2100 and HSDPA).
I have tested on 3 GSM networks in total.
At the same time, Polaris demonstrated very concerning results in both 2G and 3G mode. (see above).
That is why I have decided to further investigate this issue.
After flashing Murata PPAS radio, Polaris receives 3-4 bars in GSM mode indoors, full 4 bars outdoors, 3 bars indoors and 3-4 bars outdoors. This is perfectly in line with other phones based on the same hardware platform: Kaiser, Niki and Wings.
I hope it helps.
P.S. At this stage I come to conclusion that there are Polaris handsets that have issue and others that have not. No matter what radio they being flashed to. This is perfectly possible if manufacturer replaced some electronic chip in newer batches of phones. This is common practice for mass production. Therefore we have conflicting reports in both polls.
bottom line is: if your Polaris has no issues with GSM reception after non-Murta radio upgrade, then it will likely to keep good reception level with any radio.
Murata radio seems to address the issue with support for specific chip only in handset and will not improve reception level for every single Polaris out there.
Please accept my appologies for such a long winded post.
mavvy4ever said:
Hi guys,
I stumbled across this thread... and it seems that there are already a few people who tried to flash the Russian ROM and after that flushing a WWE ROM without radio and they reported that their Polaris was working again after that...
I am currently a little too anxious to try out myself with my Orbit 2 but I thought it would be an idea to point this possible solution in a separate thread and for those who have tried it, please vote so we have a better overview if this is a fix or not...
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I tried the Radio-only first (after I did the HardSPL flash) but I still get only 2 bars 3G signal strength. Only outdoors it's 4 bars and when walking it's changing between 3 and 4 bars. 2G (GSM) is always at 4 bars inside and outside.
After that I flashed the complete Russian ROM but everything stays the same. Also after hardresetting the device. Even after flashing it again and again :|
Now I think I tried every option which I found on this xda forums several times... maybe any1 has another idea?
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No need for apologies well it gives me a better feeling that my Orbit2 is not really that bad, though I remember I had better reception in original state. Currently I'm trying to figure out why TomTom does not get any satellites. I have updated latest data with QuickGPS and chose Built-In GPS...
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took about half an hour to get the initial first gps fix... but from then on, it gets the first fix within 3-5 seconds... nice
its working again
Hi guys, i flashed the radio "Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23.rar" and since its back to full strength!
i also lost all my data cuz updating the radio also hard resets ur device;-)good luck folks and dont throw ur polaris away!
Works greaaat ! Thank you so much guys!!
Ok here is my story... I bought a Cruise but the first thing I did was to unlock it (without testing it before!). So when I tried it I thought "what this piece of ****... the reception is so bad!!" but thought it was normal so I was already thinking about selling it on eBay Then I found this forum....
I've just flashed it with Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23 and it works like a charm now, so thank you very much!
ps: before finding this post I tried each rom radio I found! thx again!
You guys are great! I flashed the radio only Murata, and it fixed everything.
I'm an US expat working in China. The entire import industry for the Polaris shutdown these few weeks because of this problem. There will be many happy Chinese HTC dealers tomorrow. Wooohooo!
Hearty, hearty thanks!!!!!
superduper said:
if you have 4 bars in 2G mode, then nothing is wrong with your reception level. 3G mode is completely different from 2G mode all together. having 2-3 bars in 3G mode is perfectly normal. 3G coverage is week in general. You have nothing to be concerned about really.
In my situation I was having 1-2 bars in 2G mode and 1-2 bars in 3G mode. (Polaris). Also, in 3G mode signal frequently was degrated to the level where radio would automatically fallback to 2G mode and stay there. We have practicaly entire HTC range at our disposal. Every single HTC phone that has been manufactured Himalaya inclusive. As soon as I have noticed week GSM signal on Polaris, I have checked few others for the same issue, namely:
Kaiser, Wings, Niki, Excalibur, Cavalier, Himalaya, Pharos, Hermes, Trinity, VOX, Herald and few others.
Also, please note: Kaiser, Wings, Niki and Polaris were running indentical radio: stock standard 1.58.21.23. we keep our handsets consistent accross the board as much as we can.
Kaiser, Niki and Wings produced excellent reception quality results with full 3-4 bars in 2G and 3+ bars in 3G mode.(UMTS 2100 and HSDPA).
I have tested on 3 GSM networks in total.
At the same time, Polaris demonstrated very concerning results in both 2G and 3G mode. (see above).
That is why I have decided to further investigate this issue.
After flashing Murata PPAS radio, Polaris receives 3-4 bars in GSM mode indoors, full 4 bars outdoors, 3 bars indoors and 3-4 bars outdoors. This is perfectly in line with other phones based on the same hardware platform: Kaiser, Niki and Wings.
I hope it helps.
P.S. At this stage I come to conclusion that there are Polaris handsets that have issue and others that have not. No matter what radio they being flashed to. This is perfectly possible if manufacturer replaced some electronic chip in newer batches of phones. This is common practice for mass production. Therefore we have conflicting reports in both polls.
bottom line is: if your Polaris has no issues with GSM reception after non-Murta radio upgrade, then it will likely to keep good reception level with any radio.
Murata radio seems to address the issue with support for specific chip only in handset and will not improve reception level for every single Polaris out there.
Please accept my appologies for such a long winded post.
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Yeah I extensively tested my Orbit 2 this weekend. I think I have no more problems now with it. So my vote to my own poll is actually wrong now... should be "... my 3G reception is back to normal and at full strength"
Thanks to everyone involved on Xda Dev!
At home with original rom I had 2 bars, after to Raramomo SFR and 1.64.08.21
still 2/1 bars in 3G, I have tested Murata and always 2/1 bars, so I have decided to keep 1.64.02.21 because I known its battery's drain and I known nothing about Murata.
Thanks a lot for you works
Murata radio is a life saver for wm6.1..awesome full 4 bars reception...highly recemmended for anyone have reception problems after updated their radio ..awesome
Just to clarify on this issue with low reception for some Polaris handsets:
Manufacturer has replaced some micro electronic components in some batches of Polaris.
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
Heyyooooo
Thank you VERY VERY VERY MUCH guys
My Polaris was born again
SecureGSM said:
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
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So all new radios should be reconstructed from begining with these or similar settings?
harmsuploe said:
You guys are great! I flashed the radio only Murata, and it fixed everything.
I'm an US expat working in China. The entire import industry for the Polaris shutdown these few weeks because of this problem. There will be many happy Chinese HTC dealers tomorrow. Wooohooo!
Hearty, hearty thanks!!!!!
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Great news, but too bad my dealer hadn't heard about it when I picked mine up. Can you please point to where you downloaded that rom and what you used to flash it? I tried the first of the two links above and the RUU is unreadable (??????)...
Thanks.
SecureGSM said:
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
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My question is, why my (I got it early, I guess I have an old model) Polaris came shipped with 1.58.23.21 where the Murata Radio reads version number 1.58.21.23 which is lower and thus I assume older?
SecureGSM said:
Just to clarify on this issue with low reception for some Polaris handsets:
Manufacturer has replaced some micro electronic components in some batches of Polaris.
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
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I think you are incorrect, I had other radio work on my polaris for little while in 3g before they dont work, I think it is got something to do with mty
Thank you for the great discovery. This Murata thing is working! I wanted to go with this device to the warranty, but i said to give this a shot, because my TC had the same simptoms discribed (only that i tested in GSM, i use 3g only for net).
Where i had signal between 70-80% (2-3 lines) now i have 100% (i use this percentage because i have batterystatus program that tells me in percentage). Where one hour ago my TC didn't discover any signal now it has 70% (2-3 lines).
I tested with dslreports.com/mspeed before and after:
GSM/GPRS: 29kbits before - 40kbits after
3g: 141kbits before - 200kbits after
My device information:
ROM VERSION: 1.25.405.1 WWE
ROM dare: 12/11/07
Radio Version: 1.58.21.23 (it writes the SAME version i had before, no murata no nothing)
Protocol version: 25.65.30.04W
I have to mention one thing: on my box (the box with the htc touch cruise in it), where it has the bar code, it writes Rev. A (from Revision A). I think maybe all devices with revision A will benefit from this radio and other revision not... please specify what it writes on your package.
Thanks again! Now I can say I am sattisfied with my investment (If you look in my posts I baught a s-h htc tytn I with battery drain problems... now is for sale for just 180 Euro in Romania... i can ship it if someone wants it)
thanks you for your help.
I had a bad reception in GSM mode.
I downloaded this rom.
Now in my room my reception is full (after 2-3 lines).
And my touch cruise detect a 3g area (no before this radio rom).
I try in my office this morning (no signal with the original rom).
I'am enjoy and this Rom resolve my problem.
Hello, im also expiriencing same reception problems, but in my system alredy says that i have radio rom 1.58.21.23, the phone never got flashed, can be alredy the murato radio rom ?!
If not, can i try the murato radio rom with the "original" installed rom that came with de device ?
Anyone knows where can i get this current rom i have or maybe back it up if i want to roll it back ?
Some users expirienced some attery drains after flash with murato... what about you guys ?
Regards, Ricardo.
yrsmart said:
Hello, im also expiriencing same reception problems, but in my system alredy says that i have radio rom 1.58.21.23, the phone never got flashed, can be alredy the murato radio rom ?!
If not, can i try the murato radio rom with the "original" installed rom that came with de device ?
Anyone knows where can i get this current rom i have or maybe back it up if i want to roll it back ?
Some users expirienced some attery drains after flash with murato... what about you guys ?
Regards, Ricardo.
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did you buy "second-hand" so it might have been already used with a rom and been restored to "original" state before sold to you?
you can overwrite the rom even if it has the same version number.
i have no battery issues with the murata radio only rom.
Hi, in my country there is Only GSM 900mhz Signal. So I don't care 3G.
I have recently acquire a HTCTouchCruise. What happens is that the signal strength is very Low. For Example in indoors there is no signal at all where my Blackberry8320 works like a charm.
The original ROM that came was Aserg In Russian. I don't Speak Russian..
What do I do was to upgrade to Sirius uDk R7. The same situation almost no Signal. NO improvement at all. The camera was not working until I change to Radio version 1.59.x.x. Even with 1.59 No signal improvement ....
The solution seems to be a Murata Radio Version. But R7 requires a Radio version 1.59.x.x but all Murata version I found was for 1.58.x.x. Even with Murata 1.58.25.14 or 1.58.21.23 the signal was the same.
What I am asking is some successfully configurations that IMPROVE RADICALLY the signal. My TouchCruise looks like an IPOD with poor signal...
ROM VERSION???
RADIO VERSION????
Some tips and Solution.
THANKS in ADVANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470510
Why is this your recommendation to improve signal??????
Sorry, i was in a hurry.. Why does this ROM will be the best for improve my signal. Did you have the same trouble and this one help you???
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
You can use any ROM based on 1.31 or 1.60 drivers with 1.58.xx.xx murata Radio ROM.
ROMs based on 3.13, 3.18 or 3.19 drivers only work with 1.59.xx.xx Radio ROMs.
Sascha
I will give it a try and then will post the result....
Posting results....
Hi folks... NEED HELP....
First or all I installed the original rom
* RUU_Polaris_HTC_SPA_3.13.412.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship.exe
In a short story the same NO signal in my phone where almost any phone catch signal. Cant try 1.58.x.x Radio because they were designed for 1.60 drivers.
then I pass to
* c_shekhar_Pola_16021014aCS_Build21014_Public.rar
I made every step posible. Downgrade the Radio version and then Installed the ROM. No change!!!!
Tried then
* Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23 and then * Radio_Murata_1.58.25.14. Nothing change also...
The rom is great but the same signal.
If I try to catch the signal inside my room what i get is "Denied, Searching" but if I go outside I catch the signal and can call and check balance. As soon as I enter in to the House the signal remain the same but the phone is not reachable. If I try to check balance inside Home with the signal that remains from outside is says:
"Waiting......
Session Terminated"
Please could someone indicate me what to do to recover signal I leave in a City so lost signal here is no usual.
Hi, hell.cu
There is No point in updating two threads. Looks like you have a hardware problem. Get in 'touch' with HTC support as there seems to be no solution available at present with software. Good Luck ....!
that is too bad.. I cant get back to HTC. i didnt buy there... So there is no solution????
Hi people. Just to inform you that havent found any solution... Just send the phone back. Too bad it was a really nice phone.
I love my BlackBerry 8320 so I maintain this phone.
For the record I believe that HTC makes good phones, desing, funionality and even software. But I have seen to many problems also in hardware respect HTC phones. First was a Excalibur and know is the Polaris.
No luck over here...
Maybe there is just no witchcraft to do my friend.
Maybe the signal strength is just the way it is and can't be improved.
I have same problem here and noticed that it is very depending on the weather how strong the signal is.
If you have the same trouble you wouldn't have that phone. Just in the House i have no signal. It is like if i doesn't have phone at all.
Only in the middle of the street i have signal.
hell.cu said:
If you have the same trouble you wouldn't have that phone. Just in the House i have no signal. It is like if i doesn't have phone at all.
Only in the middle of the street i have signal.
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have you tried playing around with your Settings/Phone? there is a band selection that can be selected either manually or automatically.
Yes I play around like a monkey. But nothing seems to change the Signal strength. I think that some (not all) Polaris has this issues.
Thanks for the reply. You could also check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3348474
I'm on the 3 network in Australia and I find my reception is quite poor.
I understand 3's network coverage isn't as amazing as Telstra or Optus, but it is meant to be strong around the CBD, which mine isnt. Other friends on the network using non-htc handsets have perfect reception in places I don't. This leads me to believe it might be my radio. Even when roaming reception will drop out occasionally.
I have Radio-3.22.20.17. Are there any other Australian 3 users here? What radio are you using? How is your reception? Would a 6.35 radio be better? I've searched XDA, Google, etc and couldn't find decent radio information for the Magic, only found some for the Hero.
Thanks,
Anyone able to help?
i don't know much about the radio side of things, but is there anything else that could be affecting your reception?
do you have a cover on your phone?
does reception improve if it's removed?
have you contacted 3 to see if there might be a fault with your phone?
I have a cover, but reception isn't affected with it on or off. I've also had the phone checked and its fine.
I want to test a new radio/rom to see if it improves but I don't want to go back to Android 1.5 and there are no 100% working 2.1 roms, so I'll have to wait.
Are there any threads similar to this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757
Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.
lagu805 said:
Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.
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I ended up trying CursorSense. I hate Sense UI so I removed it, but I didn't notice any signal difference. I also ran Before and After speedtests numerous times and averaged them and the new radio was slower for me
so sorry to hear that...
well, at least i finally found someone from australia using magic and a member of xda as well..
I've not used my Magic on 3, but I can relate to your signal issues on their network. The only contract phone I ever had was with them and I regretted it, call drops and poor signal no matter where I was, I used to work in the stock exchange building, you'd think a phone would have awesome signal there but I'd be stuck on 1-2 bars Sorry to say it, but I think you can blame 3, not your phone.
I live in the us, Illinois to be exact. the problem i have is i decided to update my radio rom to the newest one and sense then my signal fade out once i pick the phone up. What is the original radio rom for my device to go back to, i do have 2.08 spl on it. and i am running gingerbread android on it now tynung version. please help.....
This is it
I use Radio Rom 2.12.50.02, tried different ones, this worked best for battery life and signal reception.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953630.............read this link.... it made my gps lock in less than 1 min. the first use, and instantly after that