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Hi everyone. I just bought the new Tmob MDA yesterday and have been tooling around tryin to figure the wifi thing out.
When i bought it from the store the salesperson said that the Wifi is only active when you have the Data plan activated..... Which kind of doesnt make sense. I understand the PRS side of it but not the Wifi side....
I downloaded the CABs and registry entries and all that good stuff, with no luck.
The latest thin I tried in order to connect to a network is install WoFo companion from Socket.
HERES THE CATCH!!!! The socket apprecognizes networx in the area, but the WM2005 doesnt allow it to connect. When you say connect the WM2005 Available Networx page is blank.
Can anyone help? I really need wifi on this machine....
thank you for listening.
Yes wifi should work out of the box to - b networks. Saleperson is wrong - that only applies to gprs as you said.
What reg tweaks and cabs did you install? that should be unnecessary unless you want to logon to g networks.
Try the registry wizard that will tweak for g and show wifi plugin on the today screen. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
use latest version r.
One thing it might be worth looking at is downloading and installing the latest T-mobile rom. My wizard refused to connect to my secured wireless network, unless I removed all security and made it completely open ( like that's a good thing to do in this day and age) Installed the latest ROM update, and I could connect a lot more easily.
After you get used to your wizard, I can heartily recommend installing the K-Jam rom, it seems a lot faster.
thx
thx for you replies guys. i just flashed the rom to the latest k-jam.
i knda prefer no to have any tmobile branding anyways.
everythingn worx fine now.
I just got my 8525 on monday fron cingular, when I first got it I noticed that the internet will work fine on 3G but it wont work on G, for some reason on G it will time out when looking to load a page on IE and it wont receive or send emails either. So I said, what the hell, let me upgrade to WM6 and this should be solved, I was wrong, I have the same exact problem on WM6 and I've spent countless hours going thru all the threads looking for an answer and still nothing. Dont want to call CS since I'm on WM6 and they would start giving me crap about it. Anyone knows whats going on here? I can get internet fine on 3G and I could tether fine to my lappy but if I go out of a 3g and into a plain G network, it wont let me do anything online. Could it be software or hardware? If hardware, how would I go about returning since I upgraded to wm6?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
If you have HTweakC, check the Phone...GPRS/G3 Connection setting and tick Enable GPRS/G3 Auto Attach.
I found that i had the problem you describe when moving from the 3 network in Sydney (Aus) to a regional centre where only GSM/GPRS was available.
I'll try that and see if it works when I move to a none 3g zone. Thanks a lot.
That didn't fix the problem, still no internet when on G network and do have internet while on 3g network. Any other suggestions?
Which WM6 are you on ? I'd think that the Black 2.0 for Cingular might be best and with the 1.40 Radio.
Are you a new Cingular subscriber ? If you are maybe try your SIM in another phone. They might not have provisioned your account properly.
No, I'm not new to cingular and I'm using now the WM6 Black Edition. But dont think that matters tho since it was doing the same thing on wm5. Any suggestions?
Well, have read and gone thru countless threads and still no answer to this problem. Like i said, I went back to WM5 and still have no internet when on E but get lightning fast connection while on 3G. Has anyone experienced this before?
Did you solve the problem?
Diazman said:
Well, have read and gone thru countless threads and still no answer to this problem. Like i said, I went back to WM5 and still have no internet when on E but get lightning fast connection while on 3G. Has anyone experienced this before?
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I use my 8525 in a non 3G network (GPRS/Edge) and I haven´t been able to have a decent connection since day 1 back in December. If you solve your problem please share the solution. Thanks
Maybe this will help
I bought my very own Tytn this week and got a mobile internet subscription with it. I can't seem to connect to any webpage using IE either.
I'm a Firefox fan and always use that wherever I am. So I decided to try the pocket version of that, which is called Minimo. it's on http://www.mozilla.org somewhere.
For some unknown reason, that solved my problem. IE still doesn't work, no matter what I try, but I can surf as much as I want on Minimo, which is fine for me.
Hope this helps.
Hi,
Just picked up a AT&T 8525 on Ebay last week and installed the leaded WM6 AT&T Rom on it. I have a strange issue. I can get all apps except Explorer to use the WiFi connection. When I'm on WiFi, Explorer can't make a connection. Check all of the obvious things that I could find on this site but the fact that Outlook, Opera, SlingPlayer, etc. work lead me to believe that it is something else.
Anyone have any ideas?
thanks,
Bill
before someone comes in and is all "learn how to search" or "GRR RTFW" lol i'll try to help
if you are running any official cingular/att rom they hard code the proxy into IE (or something lol) before you connect to wifi, go into the proxy manager in programs and disable the proxy. when you want to go back on to like medianet or whatnot, and not use the wifi, enable it. if that doesn't work i dunno, maybe someone with more experience can help ya
Thanks,
That was it.
(I did search the forums and wiki, BTW. Some people just don't have infinite amounts of free time.
Thanks
Thanks Cowboy, I searched xda and google for a bit before stumbling on this post. I was having the problem with the AT&T wm6 rom. Solved the issue, again, thanks.
WiFi
Why did I not have to do that for the 4/9/07 WM5 Rom on ATT 8525 but I do for the WM6?
Hi there,
I have been trying to connect to Orange UK HSDPA, 3G and Edge networks for the past few days to browse internet, download email and rss, and update weather. My phone is unable to connect though. No problems with text or call delivery.
Anyone else suffering from this? Thanks.
yeah im experiencing the same but only of today.it was okay yesterday and i havent been cut off or anythng of the like.
dont really want to do a hard reset but i will do later and see it makes a difference.
what rom and radio are you using?
im using the 1.8 l26 rom
r 1.10.25.25
g 52.57.25.30u
d 1.14.38865
hey guys,
I work closely with orange and can report that there aren't any planned outages I am aware of for the orangeinternet APN (The public one). Our private APN seems to be working ok so the problem lies with the public service.
My suggestion is to get this reported to orange asap so they can diagnose the issue further especially if it is affecting multiple areas (i'm in huddersfield) and can confirm I have the same issue aswell.
Its not anything to do with radion/rom as I was running Dutty's extreme with radio 1.12 up until 2 nights ago - since which I have reverted back to the standard 1.14 orange ROM using the 1.09 radio and still am suffering the same issue as you guys.
hth - zoomee
Mine wouldn't work as of yesterday, quite late yesterday to be honest though. I am in Fife, Scotland. I'm running Dutty's extreme rom 2.1 for note, but doesn't seem to be Rom specific.
Does anyone have dropped call problems with their Orange HDs too? Mine seems to have developed the problem recently. Already had to send a few back so really not wanting to have to do it again!
thanks for your reply and sugestion zoomee
iv got to transfer 10Gb of data to a new sd and then il reflash my phone with a new radio, hard reset didnt solve anythng nor did re-doing the connection setup.
il report back in an hour or so when im done.
no i havent had any dropped call issues.does your wifi work okay?i can connect to my hub but am not receiving any data or internet access
definately something affecting the orangeinternet APN if its affecting us all - so far i've read reports from london, scotland and yorkshire about the same issue.
Sure it will be resolved come tommorow as they'll be on skeleton-staff over the weekend.
Wow, noticed no connection this morning tried a few times upto now thought id check in to see if anyone else having probs, i am in the midlands. Will give orange a ring now.
Got through the blurb on the auto answer system on orange, pre-recorded message we have probs and are trying to sort! dont hold your breath.
Looks like I picked a great day to flash my rom - didn't check connectivity before flashing, thought the rom was borked!!! No connection since about 8:00am which is when I flashed.
Same problem here, no connection since about 9pm yesterday.
I've got the £5/month 500mb but don't really use it that much(as I use wifi at home mainly) so didn't notice the problem till I read this, just checked and it appears I'm suffering as well(I'm in Reading, Berkshire).
do I use Orange Internet or Orange WAP setting? leaving it on default appears to be using Orange WAP, I don't want to be charged on the £1/day rather than the usage being taken out of the 500mb/month when I use 3g rather than wifi.
What timing! My new data bundle (500MB) had just kicked in (I got the service message around midnight) but no actual data service available. It was working at around 6pm, since I was looking up train times on the move, but by midnight there was nothing. At first I thought it was something in the service message had mucked things up, but my partner also had no data service when she checked.
The same here in Bristol, was working yesterday (although not quite as good coverage as normal) now it seems to have totally gone..
same here guys, i'm in Letchworth, Hertfordshire.
but only experiencing problems since this morning,
Nightmare
Ok that makes 13 people all on Orange who are using various stock and Dutty or similar ROMS who are experiencing the same issue. With the recording from orange added to the info its fair to say its an orange weekend issue.
When I checked my connection settings I found the modem section greyed out. To be specific when I go to start>Settings>click on the connection tab>select the connection icon>then click on manage existing connections>then select edit. In the second drop down box on the orange internet settings screen it says "select a modem" the content of that box is set to Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) but it is greyed out and unable to select or change.
Would someone be kind enough to check the same please as I am concerned my modem is dead!
Thanks very much in advance. I appreciate your help whilst pulling out large clumps of hair.
Heefy
I'm getting the same problem, could use Internet on the move with my Touch HD yesterday up until early evening, then nothing - just times out when I try and connect
Standard 1.14 ROM btw
Heefy said:
In the second drop down box on the orange internet settings screen it says "select a modem" the content of that box is set to Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) but it is greyed out and unable to select or change.
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Mine is exactly the same. If I create a complete new connection I do get to select a modem though, but its greyed out on my existing one
thanks
alltruism said:
Mine is exactly the same. If I create a complete new connection I do get to select a modem though, but its greyed out on my existing one
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Thanks for your reply you have made me a happier man. I was thinking my modem was knackered.
H
Heefy said:
Ok that makes 13 people all on Orange who are using various stock and Dutty or similar ROMS who are experiencing the same issue. With the recording from orange added to the info its fair to say its an orange weekend issue.
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I don't think it's device-related at all -- I'm running stock 1.19 still (radio 1.09.25.25 from memory) but my other half is running an antique TyTN and it's dead for her too.
Heefy said:
When I checked my connection settings I found the modem section greyed out. To be specific when I go to start>Settings>click on the connection tab>select the connection icon>then click on manage existing connections>then select edit. In the second drop down box on the orange internet settings screen it says "select a modem" the content of that box is set to Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) but it is greyed out and unable to select or change.
Would someone be kind enough to check the same please as I am concerned my modem is dead!
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Just the same here, the modem selection dropdown is greyed out -- but I think that's normal, although I can't be sure because I never really noticed before.
wuzzie said:
I don't think it's device-related at all -- I'm running stock 1.19 still (radio 1.09.25.25 from memory) but my other half is running an antique TyTN and it's dead for her too.
Just the same here, the modem selection dropdown is greyed out -- but I think that's normal, although I can't be sure because I never really noticed before.
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Now I am feeling much better. I guess we just wait until Orange guys and girls walk into the office tomorrow and resolve the issue. Oh BTW my sky internet on my PC was very slow and sporadic early hours of this morning. Maybe its a radio mast, transmitter or a lump of space metal not working properly?
Thanks again. Great community.
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sorry for my late reply. i flashed and hard reset and i have a connection.
if you can afford to, do a back up and hard reset perhaps and then re run ur connection setup.
thanks for all your ur input, hopefully orange will sort this as i have two contracts with them and im not getting my moneys worth, even if it is for a day.i like my money
Hi guys, i know this is a common problem amongst some of us, there are several threads discussing the connection drops but please there must be someone out there who knows something about it.
Basically with HSDPA enabled, the connection will last a random period of time before disconnecting by itself and displaying: cannot connect for an unknown reason.
When HSDPA is turned off, only 3G is used, although this works fine, it is fairly slower.
I am on T-Mobile UK, I have phoned their technical support, we have established it is not the sim card but the phone itself and have tried a variety of steps to solve this, for example receiving band settings for WCDMA, this has not fixed the problem.
I have tried changing the username and password combinations and have tried every combination of every advanced network option. I have used the T-Mobile stock rom 1.43, official HTC ROM 1.66, duttys hg, energyROM, artemis 5.0 and artemis 5.5 (would recommend btw) using MTTY before every flash, and every single different radio combination.
Myself, and many people here would be very grateful for any help posted.
Thanks in advance
Why don't you try Settings > Connections > Advanced network > GPRS tab > change from PAP to CHAP.. and reset... or viceversa.. that helped for me..
Thanks for the post, i've tried all that i've tried all advanced settings, at most they last for a day or so but after a while the connection dropouts seem to worsen
Ok ive just gotten off the phone for the third time with the technical support
basically what they've said is that the hsdpa WILL disconnect because the mobile towers simply can't handle the traffic.
He said in his honest opinion I should disable it because it simply won't work well and there is no fix.
Taking the piss juuuuust a little bit
Mine on t-mobile uk will show H, but usually drop down to 3G. It won't give me an error when it drops down though.
It sounds like its not transferring from H to 3G.
To be honest, i was unaware t-mobile ran HSDPA till I got my HD2 (never showed on my BB).
mine switches between 3G and H too, this happens when the connection is being used (for example loading a web page) when the job is finished (page has finished loading) it turns back to 3G right?
are you saying that your connection never disconnects?
may i ask which radio and rom you are using?
thanks!
For my personal experience, I have for over a month, on versions 1.48, 1.66 by HTC, artemis versions, versions of other French chefs. had no problems,
Login Exchange push 24/24 without any cuts, I solicited the network with opera I passed automatically 3g H, and since February it to completely fall with the problems that everyone encounters (lost connection for several minutes , unable to connect to 3G without hard reset)
to remove the sim chip, I try with another chip of the same operator, another chip from another operator, the problem is still there.
For several days I have also continued a Touch HD, it faces no problems, no problems in connection 24/24.
In short, impossible to challenge any operator, any base station, any sim card.
It is then that the problem come from HD2:
-Software: We all try every combination of rom and radio rom possible.
It is the hardware, maybe the chip integrated into a concern for design, manufacturing concerns on some series, may be dysfunctional due to incompatibilitée between several chips of the phone, short, HTC should look into the problem.
cgrec92 said:
mine switches between 3G and H too, this happens when the connection is being used (for example loading a web page) when the job is finished (page has finished loading) it turns back to 3G right?
are you saying that your connection never disconnects?
may i ask which radio and rom you are using?
thanks!
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correct, it never disconnects.
It will switch seemlessly between them, when using or not using.
same one it came with. O2 HD2.
ROM 1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE
RADIO 2.04.50.22_2
I've also been struggling with this problem ever since I got my HD2 three weeks ago. However it seems like only a few people experience this.
My case is exactly like cgrec92 described. I'm on a 3.5G network in Denmark (3 Mobile), the phone shows the 3G connection at all times. When things do work and I use Opera/weather/Twitter/email etc, the symbol changes to H and I know the data connection is functioning. I can be using this for a whole hour without any problems.
However, if I put the phone down for a while and then pick it up again to use one of its data services, very often it does not connect to 3.5G (or H) anymore. It will still show the 3G icon on the screen, but there's no data connection. Then I go to Connection Manager and I can see that data connection shows as Off - and after a few seconds it goes back to On by itself That does not mean the problem is solved, as the phone still fails to establish any data connection. What I need to do then is manually turn off data connection and re-enable it again, which makes the 3G symbol immediately change to H. Then everything starts working again - until the next time it stops working...
I contacted the HTC customer service and they said it might be a driver-related issue, recommended a hard reset. I did that and for a few hours I thought it solved the problem, but no, data connection still disconnects by itself.
I spoke to 3 Mobile's technical service and they told me to update my software, which I had already done previously (I'm running stock 1.66 ROM Danish). They also said they never received any such complains about the HD2.
Like cgrec92 I've also played with all kinds of network/band settings, but it did not make any difference.
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One question: isn't the phone supposed to automatically connect via EDGE when it cannot connect via HSDPA? Because in my case it will only establish data connection via H, never EDGE.
Any advice is greatly appreciated!
My take on this FWIW
It's not the phone!
It's the radio ROM installed.
I live in an an area where T-mobile say I can't get HSDPA.
However, I know that I can. How? Because 3 network uses the same local cell and transmitter as T-mobile and their signal will rip your eyes out!!!!!!!!!
All information obtained from a good friend of mine who works for BT, who, service manage the cells for the networks.
Plus, in this location, the cell traffic is then handled by BTs digiatal backbone which takes it who knows where after that.
So I have a very isolated situation in which I know there is a decent HSDPA signal, but I have had trouble with drop outs on my two previous phones (Nokis 5800 and HTC Touch Diamond 2) and originally on my two T-mobile mobile broadband feeds using Huawei E220 cell network modems.
All fixed when I finally found the right Radio and flashed it on the phones and unlocked and flashed the latest modem firmware.
My broadband connections are always on and never drop out and my HSDPA signal on my HD2 is through the roof!
To further emphasise the point all the equipment is used (when home based) behind solar glass which is notorious for blocking mobile phone signals.
Land on the best one and you will get incresed battery life as well.
Bottom line is try the latest radios (2.08.50.08_02 in my case) and I think you may be surprised at the results.
Current result of speed test 09.31 hours
ADSLSPEED.COM | Speed Test
3 minutes later
ADSLSPEED.COM | Speed Test
I have the same problem with the connection dropping. What I did to make it work was to disable HDSPA and putting GPRS to CHAP instead of PAP, and so far I have no problems at all
Thanks for the reply and tips. I also did the same earlier today, except that I did not change PAP to CHAP :O. I was waiting until tomorrow before I posted any results, but I gotta say so far the connection has been stable just like yours.
I also called HTC's customer service in Denmark and the fellow I spoke to was very helpful but he said he has never heard about such problems. He sent me updated network settings via sms, but it did not fix the problem.
I mean, only some users around the world suffer from this problem, right? So what is it that's wrong with our devices? Is it a production fault? If I exchange my phone for a brand new one maybe I won't be unlucky again? When 3 DK finally told you the problem was unfixable, did they mention other users with the same issue? Did they ever offer to replace your phone?
DORMIU said:
Thanks for the reply and tips. I also did the same earlier today, except that I did not change PAP to CHAP :O. I was waiting until tomorrow before I posted any results, but I gotta say so far the connection has been stable just like yours.
I also called HTC's customer service in Denmark and the fellow I spoke to was very helpful but he said he has never heard about such problems. He sent me updated network settings via sms, but it did not fix the problem.
I mean, only some users around the world suffer from this problem, right? So what is it that's wrong with our devices? Is it a production fault? If I exchange my phone for a brand new one maybe I won't be unlucky again? When 3 DK finally told you the problem was unfixable, did they mention other users with the same issue? Did they ever offer to replace your phone?
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Erm!
It's your radio!
But, I think I did say that in a previous post.
You had a helpful fellow who sent you updated settings?
And he thought that was going to fix your problem?
That was helpful!
It's your radio!
The technicalities are beyond a customer assistant at the end of a phone. They work from a script.
I'll send you the settings.
Have you done this?
Have you done that ?
Never heard of anyone else with your problem!
It's your radio!
T-mobile uses PAP protocol (at least they do here in the UK) and it's a handshake protocol so changing that won't really do anything to the signal definition.
You have it or you don't.
It's your radio!
There is no "production fault".
You are not "lucky" or "unlucky".
You are in an area where you will suffer from this because of the ???????
THE RADIO!
I think I have made my point.
If it turns out that you don't have a radio issue then please feel free to admonish me.
Until then----------
It's your radio!
well I don't mean to sound rude but do you SERIOUSLY think we haven't tried that? ive tried every possible radio available here and every different rom, so excuse us for trying new things.im glad your not having any troubles yourself because it is really annoying
perhaps you could post us your rom and radio?
I don't suppose you could post us your settings in advanced network?
did you use the connection setup?
thanks for your help
Yes, I was about to mention something similar. I haven't tried combining different ROMS & Radios myself, but I know people like cgrec92 who have with no good results.
And if it is the radio, then every 3 Denmark user like me would be experiencing the same problem, correct? I don't think that's the case. Actually when you read the forums you will find users from different countries with this problem, and they/we are not the only ones with a certain combination of ROM/Radio.
So yes, by disabling HDSPA I finally managed to have a stable data connection (but no 3.5G, obviously). At this point no one seems to know the cause of this issue, but I suppose it's naive to expect a future ROM to solve it, after all it's not a widespread problem. Is HTC even working on it? Are we sure it's not our devices that are faulty?
I honestly have no idea, but I cannot just accept this problem and live with it after all the money I put into this phone. That's why I brought up the possibility of having it exchanged for a brand new one in hopes that it will not have this problem.
Any ideas?
cgrec92 said:
well I don't mean to sound rude but do you SERIOUSLY think we haven't tried that? ive tried every possible radio available here and every different rom, so excuse us for trying new things.im glad your not having any troubles yourself because it is really annoying
perhaps you could post us your rom and radio?
I don't suppose you could post us your settings in advanced network?
did you use the connection setup?
thanks for your help
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The post by pa49 was to DORMIU.
I'll pm you my t-mobile settings.
And I cant use the connection setup, being an O2 HD2, it only allows selection of O2.
cgrec92 said:
well I don't mean to sound rude but do you SERIOUSLY think we haven't tried that? ive tried every possible radio available here and every different rom, so excuse us for trying new things.im glad your not having any troubles yourself because it is really annoying
perhaps you could post us your rom and radio?
I don't suppose you could post us your settings in advanced network?
did you use the connection setup?
thanks for your help
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I referred to my radio in my previous post -20.08.50.08_02.
My OS ROM is Leo Lite 3.
Connection setup used and no further settings.
My explanation for this is the fringe nature of the received signal.
The radio its constantly 'hunting' for a signal and the radio software has difficulty in locking on.
BTW OS ROM and settings ready don't affect the efficiency of the radio signal.
MidnightDraven said:
The post by pa49 was to DORMIU.
I'll pm you my t-mobile settings.
And I cant use the connection setup, being an O2 HD2, it only allows selection of O2.
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I appreciate the help, but he doesn't seem to understand the issue here. It's not that we have low connection, or that we cannot connect to the 3.5G network. The problem is that the phone's data connection will automatically disconnect even when we are in an area with full 3.5G signal. The phone will connect for a while and then, moments later, in the same spot and with full signal, data connection is terminated. So I just can't see how the radio has anything to do with that, especially when there are hundreds of other users out there with the same ROM & Radio as us and in the same network. And yet they do not experience this problem.
Ive have similar issues but it depends where i am it appears that some towers its ok where others its not!
mo
DORMIU said:
I appreciate the help, but he doesn't seem to understand the issue here. It's not that we have low connection, or that we cannot connect to the 3.5G network. The problem is that the phone's data connection will automatically disconnect even when we are in an area with full 3.5G signal. The phone will connect for a while and then, moments later, in the same spot and with full signal, data connection is terminated. So I just can't see how the radio has anything to do with that, especially when there are hundreds of other users out there with the
same ROM & Radio as us and in the same
network. And yet they do not experience this problem.
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The radio differentiates between all the different levels and types of signal and it depends on how exact it interprets the signal. They are supposedly optimized before release and then re optimized with each newly released version. Network operators then have their own network parameters and again the radio has to accommodate this as well. One radio will never satisfy all these criteria and some of you will be in the wrong place at the wrong time on the wrong network with the least effective radio.
I can assure you that I most certainly do understand the problem and that is why, in my own case, I have resolved it.