Hi everyone. I just bought the new Tmob MDA yesterday and have been tooling around tryin to figure the wifi thing out.
When i bought it from the store the salesperson said that the Wifi is only active when you have the Data plan activated..... Which kind of doesnt make sense. I understand the PRS side of it but not the Wifi side....
I downloaded the CABs and registry entries and all that good stuff, with no luck.
The latest thin I tried in order to connect to a network is install WoFo companion from Socket.
HERES THE CATCH!!!! The socket apprecognizes networx in the area, but the WM2005 doesnt allow it to connect. When you say connect the WM2005 Available Networx page is blank.
Can anyone help? I really need wifi on this machine....
thank you for listening.
Yes wifi should work out of the box to - b networks. Saleperson is wrong - that only applies to gprs as you said.
What reg tweaks and cabs did you install? that should be unnecessary unless you want to logon to g networks.
Try the registry wizard that will tweak for g and show wifi plugin on the today screen. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
use latest version r.
One thing it might be worth looking at is downloading and installing the latest T-mobile rom. My wizard refused to connect to my secured wireless network, unless I removed all security and made it completely open ( like that's a good thing to do in this day and age) Installed the latest ROM update, and I could connect a lot more easily.
After you get used to your wizard, I can heartily recommend installing the K-Jam rom, it seems a lot faster.
thx
thx for you replies guys. i just flashed the rom to the latest k-jam.
i knda prefer no to have any tmobile branding anyways.
everythingn worx fine now.
Hi,
my GPRS connection is working, it connects without any problem but when i try to navigate with PIE then I can see the message "Opening" on the left lower corner but it just stays that way for a long time and the page never gets displayed. My e-mail works fine so that means i have GPRS connection and working. If i try navigating to a WAP site some pages get displayed and some other don't. If i connect via WiFi or via activesync then i can navigate without any problems. Based on my observations I suspect a problem with the MRU (Maximum receive Unit) of the TCPiP stack but i can not find on the registry where to change that.
Hope someone can help.
I used Tweak2K2 to set it in mine. Sorry I do not know the Reg setting.
hguiraud said:
Hi,
my GPRS connection is working, it connects without any problem but when i try to navigate with PIE then I can see the message "Opening" on the left lower corner but it just stays that way for a long time and the page never gets displayed. My e-mail works fine so that means i have GPRS connection and working. If i try navigating to a WAP site some pages get displayed and some other don't. If i connect via WiFi or via activesync then i can navigate without any problems. Based on my observations I suspect a problem with the MRU (Maximum receive Unit) of the TCPiP stack but i can not find on the registry where to change that.
Hope someone can help.
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I wonder whether your HTTP proxy port number is correct. I had same problem and I was using the advertised port number until I discovered there was another one that actually worked. I would suggest a port number but I'm O2 UK (it was `advertised as 80 but only actually worked on PIE with 8080)
Mike
You are not alone
Please check the following threads, both are related to our problem, unfortunely none of them gives a solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286449
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287101
My GPRS connection doesn´t require an HTTP proxy server so Mike´s suggestion didn´t work for me. I contacted Movistar and they are not open to give support since I didn´t buy the device from them....
On the other hand, if somebody can provide the ROM reg settings and a brief instruction on how can be changed would be great
Hi Luiggi
Sorry you have not got it solved yet. I remembered your post and looked for it but did not find it - hoped you had a solution to offer - sadly not
Edit: I suppose you are certain about the proxy? I ask because mine will connect to GPRS just fine without it - BUT PIE does not unless it's set.
Mike
Maybe it is a Movistar problem
Interesting, so happens that my service provider is also Movistar; maybe they have done something different to their network settings. Any way, I was in the US recently and was able to use GPRS roaming although because the TyTN does not differentiates between GPRS and EDGE it could have been that it was using EDGE and that it why i could navigate using PIE.
The funny thing about this problem is that my e-mail works fine and my SPB whether also updates without problems, it is only the navigation with PIE that i have issues with. Based on my observations it seems to be that if the tcp packet is larger that a certain size it gets dropped by the tcp stack.
Not lucky so far
Hi Mike!
Movistar people told me that the don´t need proxy servers for the connections since they use Dynamic IP addresses (?). I´ve have tried a lot of different configurations but not luck so far, the comment posted above could be they key, now the big question is: What are the proper settings and how to modify the reg...?
Will reflashing the phone be the only solution?
Well looks like the options are narrowing down to reflashing the phone.... I'll give it a couple of days more to see if someone can give Us a hint on what to do.
hguiraud said:
Well looks like the options are narrowing down to reflashing the phone.... I'll give it a couple of days more to see if someone can give Us a hint on what to do.
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I´m not sure about reflashing, actually I have two 8525 I paid to SIM unlock the 1st one so I still have the original ROM 1.34.505.1 and the symptoms are the same, I don´t know what ROM would be suitable to "solve" the problem in case this would be causing the partial lock.
New Finding
I´ve been trying a lot of things and I guess I´m close to the root cause. I strated from scratch with a hard reset and giving a soft reset before the 3 sec secreen of auto configuration, then I tried to set a connection in my ISP, I named it "The Internet" and when I hit the OK button I got a message saying that there was an existing connection setting under the same name!!! I couldn´t find such connection, so I´m pretty sure that the connection is hidden somewhere in the ROM and we need to disable it and create a new one or modify the reg to address a different connection consistent with our own network.... Any thoughts on this?
luiggi said:
I´ve been trying a lot of things and I guess I´m close to the root cause. I strated from scratch with a hard reset and giving a soft reset before the 3 sec secreen of auto configuration, then I tried to set a connection in my ISP, I named it "The Internet" and when I hit the OK button I got a message saying that there was an existing connection setting under the same name!!! I couldn´t find such connection, so I´m pretty sure that the connection is hidden somewhere in the ROM and we need to disable it and create a new one or modify the reg to address a different connection consistent with our own network.... Any thoughts on this?
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I do have exactly the same problem: an MMS connection is missing but stored somewhere... Anyway to figure out where it is? To me, it's just a flag to change in order for it to re-appear in the \connection\connections tab...
MMS in Cingular
Jeff_mm said:
I do have exactly the same problem: an MMS connection is missing but stored somewhere... Anyway to figure out where it is? To me, it's just a flag to change in order for it to re-appear in the \connection\connections tab...
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I mapped that one in Cingular, the MMS settings are self extracted from the extended ROM, if you want to get rid of it just do a hard reset and then a soft reset when the 3 sec message shows up, hope this can help you
Please tell us how you did it....
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I used Tweak2K2 to set it in mine. Sorry I do not know the Reg setting.
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Yesterday I took a look the the various reg entries and there are some which set default addresses, did you change those addresses? How did you do with Tweak2k2?
8525 on SALE
hguiraud said:
Hi,
my GPRS connection is working, it connects without any problem but when i try to navigate with PIE then I can see the message "Opening" on the left lower corner but it just stays that way for a long time and the page never gets displayed. My e-mail works fine so that means i have GPRS connection and working. If i try navigating to a WAP site some pages get displayed and some other don't. If i connect via WiFi or via activesync then i can navigate without any problems. Based on my observations I suspect a problem with the MRU (Maximum receive Unit) of the TCPiP stack but i can not find on the registry where to change that.
Hope someone can help.
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I went thru all regs and I couldn´t find MRU or LCP (Link Control Protocol) settings, what disturbes me more is that I put my SIM in my 8125 and everything (IE. messenger, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.) works wonderful!! I think I´ll put on sale my 8525.......
More findings
I do have GPRS connection, no doubt about it. I install Tonaya Iper in my phone and the software gives the ability to trace the route from my phone to the destination, for instance The route to www.gmail.com (216.239.63.19)
is as follows (I set the time [email protected]):
1.- 10.15.14.78
2.- 10.2.4.20
3.- 10.2.4.134
4.- 200.36.174.81
5.- 200.39.31.42 (mx-mesr-rt1.telefonica-data.com.mx)
6.- 213.140.50.233 (So-2-3-1-grtmtyma2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
7.- Request timed out
8.- 213.140.43.25
9.- 213.140.43.225
10.- 213.140.36.45
11.- 213.140.37.57
12.- 64.233.123
13.- 66.249.94.8
14.- 72.14.233.123
15.- 71.14.233.123
16.- 216.239.63.19 (bp-in-f19.google.com)
When I try to trace the communication with a 1 second timeout the phone stalls for a while in server 213.140.50.233 and makes the traceability extremely slow.
My conclusión is that when the communication reach the server 213.140.50.233 this cause a delay and my phone can not continue to the final destination probably because the pre set delay in the application exceeds its timout parameter.
Any suggestions?
Not a "Maybe" MOVISTAR is guilty for poor GPRS connections!!
hguiraud said:
Interesting, so happens that my service provider is also Movistar; maybe they have done something different to their network settings. Any way, I was in the US recently and was able to use GPRS roaming although because the TyTN does not differentiates between GPRS and EDGE it could have been that it was using EDGE and that it why i could navigate using PIE.
The funny thing about this problem is that my e-mail works fine and my SPB whether also updates without problems, it is only the navigation with PIE that i have issues with. Based on my observations it seems to be that if the tcp packet is larger that a certain size it gets dropped by the tcp stack.
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Today I use a SIM from the other mexican cell company (telcel), I just enter APN, user name and password and in a blink my 8525 flew thru PIE, hotmail, MS messenger, Gmail and everything!!! Conclusion:Movistar system or set ups are causing all the connection problems, I´ve spent hours in the phone with their wonderful engineers and none of them has been able to explain why Movistar can´t give a decent service to 8525 users.
Using the Traceroute feature of IPer I notice a very long delay to ping the Movistar router located in Madrid (213.140.50.233), there´s where I think the problem is.
You are right Luiggi...!
One of the guys here at the office also has a Dopod 838pro (I'm ussing a HTC TyTN) but with Telcel instead of Movistar...the push e-mail capabilities and the internet surf are really very good ...but with the GPRS of Movistar I recive my e-mails very delayed in the phone and also still unable to sing in to MSN messenger.
Thanks to your post now I know the trut; I was really thinking that maybe the TyTN was the problem (I mean, the HTC branded because the Dopod was functioning just very fine) I was even thinking in return it...
regards
Hummm I suspected that....
Well I think we have (a winner) an answer (partially), I will go back to Movistar and complain, I may not get any results from it but I really have no options since because of my work I travel a lot and the roaming pricing I get with them is way better that the other alternative. The funny thing about this issue is that other HTC phones do not have it. A co worker has a Wizard and he can navigate with PIE. Maybe it would be interesting to investigate what could be the difference or why other phones can navigate and Tytn can't.
Wizard works great!
hguiraud said:
Well I think we have (a winner) an answer (partially), I will go back to Movistar and complain, I may not get any results from it but I really have no options since because of my work I travel a lot and the roaming pricing I get with them is way better that the other alternative. The funny thing about this issue is that other HTC phones do not have it. A co worker has a Wizard and he can navigate with PIE. Maybe it would be interesting to investigate what could be the difference or why other phones can navigate and Tytn can't.
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I do my living buying and selling phones and I guess next time (tomorrow) I get a Wizard for sale I´ll spend enough time going thru the registry and routes to compare it with the Hermes. Would you guys mind to run IPer and check if the afore mentioned router or server with the problem is common for all of us?
I already wrote a not very nice letter to Movistar, probably they are shocked because normally their tournaround time for an answer is less than 24hrs and this time is taking longer. Next letter I´m going to be addressing the Director or whoever is the top dog.
How do I get/ run the aplication mentioned???
I would like to help to figure out what the problem is or help you guys to get to a solution...so, where can I find and how do I use the software luiggi is mentioning??
Is it free or with a trial version???
regards
I just got my 8525 on monday fron cingular, when I first got it I noticed that the internet will work fine on 3G but it wont work on G, for some reason on G it will time out when looking to load a page on IE and it wont receive or send emails either. So I said, what the hell, let me upgrade to WM6 and this should be solved, I was wrong, I have the same exact problem on WM6 and I've spent countless hours going thru all the threads looking for an answer and still nothing. Dont want to call CS since I'm on WM6 and they would start giving me crap about it. Anyone knows whats going on here? I can get internet fine on 3G and I could tether fine to my lappy but if I go out of a 3g and into a plain G network, it wont let me do anything online. Could it be software or hardware? If hardware, how would I go about returning since I upgraded to wm6?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
If you have HTweakC, check the Phone...GPRS/G3 Connection setting and tick Enable GPRS/G3 Auto Attach.
I found that i had the problem you describe when moving from the 3 network in Sydney (Aus) to a regional centre where only GSM/GPRS was available.
I'll try that and see if it works when I move to a none 3g zone. Thanks a lot.
That didn't fix the problem, still no internet when on G network and do have internet while on 3g network. Any other suggestions?
Which WM6 are you on ? I'd think that the Black 2.0 for Cingular might be best and with the 1.40 Radio.
Are you a new Cingular subscriber ? If you are maybe try your SIM in another phone. They might not have provisioned your account properly.
No, I'm not new to cingular and I'm using now the WM6 Black Edition. But dont think that matters tho since it was doing the same thing on wm5. Any suggestions?
Well, have read and gone thru countless threads and still no answer to this problem. Like i said, I went back to WM5 and still have no internet when on E but get lightning fast connection while on 3G. Has anyone experienced this before?
Did you solve the problem?
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Well, have read and gone thru countless threads and still no answer to this problem. Like i said, I went back to WM5 and still have no internet when on E but get lightning fast connection while on 3G. Has anyone experienced this before?
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I use my 8525 in a non 3G network (GPRS/Edge) and I haven´t been able to have a decent connection since day 1 back in December. If you solve your problem please share the solution. Thanks
Maybe this will help
I bought my very own Tytn this week and got a mobile internet subscription with it. I can't seem to connect to any webpage using IE either.
I'm a Firefox fan and always use that wherever I am. So I decided to try the pocket version of that, which is called Minimo. it's on http://www.mozilla.org somewhere.
For some unknown reason, that solved my problem. IE still doesn't work, no matter what I try, but I can surf as much as I want on Minimo, which is fine for me.
Hope this helps.
I do not know what the problem is… the tzones worked perfectly fine on my other pocketPC, no problems whats so ever, I put in the ip, the 8080 port for http everything else wap, secure wap, sockets using the same ip and the default ports, it worked 100%
Now with the 8525 (purchased a used one, needed one with edge and keyboard badly) I can not get any other third party browser to work properly, mini opera has major issues it will not even detect my net at all… I have tried different midlet with no success, I have set the proper connection as it works with IE but of course very buggy some sites I can not access and I will get many times the error “the requested page is too long URL= (the url) Status=62(hex)”
What should I do now? Minimo seems to be running quite bad, its either eating up too much resources or causing the device to almost freeze, it does run however.
I used to be able to go to every page with my other pocketPC phone, only difference is that it was on gprs and this is on edge, the settings I had were exact and both wm6
8525 is running vp3G 3.60.2 radio 1.50
I have tried Esmertec Jbed, the one that was given in a thread, it too failed with mini opera to get a connection
I guess the i300 used a good java manager? Or the standard one, I never had any issues or problems with java on that device at all…
Any suggestions? Any recommendations on ROM? And what java manager should I get? Jbed seemed really nice with full screen, any others I should give a go? Something that might have proxy ability maybe?
As it seems either IE is flawed with proxy and tzones (wap net) or the service gives some kind of errors… either way IE isn’t really usable, besides just maybe reading text if it goes to the page, most times I get a lot of hangs :/ and retries are required.
fixed problem... im not 100% sure but i used different rom Schaps_WM6Pro_WWE_3.60a-0823_Full and it works all 100% right out of the box
IE that is just like on my other phone, im quite happy that there is such a large selection of cooked roms \o/ only 2nd day having 8525 and i was able to put new rom. Great work goes out to everyone of course \o/
bonus points to anyone who could figure out why vp3G 3.60.2 didnt work? or maybe i should have done a hard reset on the device? as it was cleared prob just default settings/reset? Previous owner that i got to talk to and is here on forums used AT&T, he now has a kaiser go figure heh
T-Zones - Tytn - HOW??????????????
confused: HOW ??????????? were you able to get T-zones working on your Tytn???
My understanding is that Tmo disabled it for smartphones or pda phones.
PLEASE sent me details.
I pay for t-zones but cannot manage to get it on my 8525.
Thanks,
Charlie
Hi all, i've been searching and i cant find any info on this. I apologize if it is out there and i just didnt find it. If anyone knows of any threads, pls let me know. Here is my problem:
I recently upgraded my Hermes to wm6, i tried a few roms and settled for Schaps. Then i upgraded my radio, since my area of ceasars bay in brooklyn ny has the worst possible reception on the planet other than the south pole. I upgraded to 1.50 then down to 1.40, then up to 1.54.07, then back down to 1.48. Now, the problem starts.
ever since the upgrade to 1.54.07, i could not access the internet through the 3g/edge. i would get a "dialed modem ended session" or similar message. I do NOT have a data plan, but i was able to use it previously regardless and was charged per usage. After the upgrade, i could not use it regardless. Soo..i figured i could try something. I went on to ATT's site, and added a data plan to my acct. After that, the 3g/edge worked, but then my Wlan connection doesnt. Now, the question: DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TO DO? THanks in advance.
Try disabling the proxy.
Thanks, i reinstalled Schaps Rom and it was fine. i think it was because of a internet sharing cab that i installed.