Internet fine on 3G, no internet on G. - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I just got my 8525 on monday fron cingular, when I first got it I noticed that the internet will work fine on 3G but it wont work on G, for some reason on G it will time out when looking to load a page on IE and it wont receive or send emails either. So I said, what the hell, let me upgrade to WM6 and this should be solved, I was wrong, I have the same exact problem on WM6 and I've spent countless hours going thru all the threads looking for an answer and still nothing. Dont want to call CS since I'm on WM6 and they would start giving me crap about it. Anyone knows whats going on here? I can get internet fine on 3G and I could tether fine to my lappy but if I go out of a 3g and into a plain G network, it wont let me do anything online. Could it be software or hardware? If hardware, how would I go about returning since I upgraded to wm6?
Your help is greatly appreciated.

If you have HTweakC, check the Phone...GPRS/G3 Connection setting and tick Enable GPRS/G3 Auto Attach.
I found that i had the problem you describe when moving from the 3 network in Sydney (Aus) to a regional centre where only GSM/GPRS was available.

I'll try that and see if it works when I move to a none 3g zone. Thanks a lot.

That didn't fix the problem, still no internet when on G network and do have internet while on 3g network. Any other suggestions?

Which WM6 are you on ? I'd think that the Black 2.0 for Cingular might be best and with the 1.40 Radio.
Are you a new Cingular subscriber ? If you are maybe try your SIM in another phone. They might not have provisioned your account properly.

No, I'm not new to cingular and I'm using now the WM6 Black Edition. But dont think that matters tho since it was doing the same thing on wm5. Any suggestions?

Well, have read and gone thru countless threads and still no answer to this problem. Like i said, I went back to WM5 and still have no internet when on E but get lightning fast connection while on 3G. Has anyone experienced this before?

Did you solve the problem?
Diazman said:
Well, have read and gone thru countless threads and still no answer to this problem. Like i said, I went back to WM5 and still have no internet when on E but get lightning fast connection while on 3G. Has anyone experienced this before?
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I use my 8525 in a non 3G network (GPRS/Edge) and I haven´t been able to have a decent connection since day 1 back in December. If you solve your problem please share the solution. Thanks

Maybe this will help
I bought my very own Tytn this week and got a mobile internet subscription with it. I can't seem to connect to any webpage using IE either.
I'm a Firefox fan and always use that wherever I am. So I decided to try the pocket version of that, which is called Minimo. it's on http://www.mozilla.org somewhere.
For some unknown reason, that solved my problem. IE still doesn't work, no matter what I try, but I can surf as much as I want on Minimo, which is fine for me.
Hope this helps.

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3g Web Browsing

Quick question when using pie to surf the net does it hang for a while on locating the web page or does it work instantly.
I have just got the Tytn and looking at web pages using 3g is really slow and really not very usable
I am using tmobile uk 3g network
after inputting a web address it hangs on locating for up to 60 seconds then loads the page very wuickly after that
Anyone any ideas
Thanks
Chris
Very strange. I dont have this problem. The first time a UMTS connection must be established and it is 5 or 6 seconds. The next request are very fast. May be you have established the DNS servers manually?
I get that, browsing using GPRS is painful on t-mobile
how about using opera 8.6 http://opera.com
I too have this problem with T-Mobile, On connecting to the internet over GPRS or 3G GPRS it will hang for some time, wether its internet explorer or other internet services I have on the device (HTC Universal).
As I have web and walk I just leave it connected, but its not ideal. I wonder wether its the T-Mobile servers working slowly to authenticate the handset for internet use.
Its been fine upto the last month or so.
adam_beasley said:
I too have this problem with T-Mobile, On connecting to the internet over GPRS or 3G GPRS it will hang for some time, wether its internet explorer or other internet services I have on the device (HTC Universal).
As I have web and walk I just leave it connected, but its not ideal. I wonder wether its the T-Mobile servers working slowly to authenticate the handset for internet use.
Its been fine upto the last month or so.
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Is weird .... Im using unlimited internet T-Mobile NL (UMTS 3G) without any problem ... never freezing and the speed is very stable...
cheers
indra9110
adam_beasley said:
I too have this problem with T-Mobile, On connecting to the internet over GPRS or 3G GPRS it will hang for some time, wether its internet explorer or other internet services I have on the device (HTC Universal).
As I have web and walk I just leave it connected, but its not ideal. I wonder wether its the T-Mobile servers working slowly to authenticate the handset for internet use.
Its been fine upto the last month or so.
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I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
StuBFrost said:
I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
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Its also become random now, somtimes it connects and its instant, and actually fast even on normal GPRS, other times it can take over a couple of minutes to locate and open a page.
Doesnt seem to matter whether its a full signal or not, whether its after a reset or anything, totally depends on what T-Mobile feels like.
Maybe it cant cope with the number of web'n'walk use now.
Absolutely agree with you as you have described precisely what my symptoms are.
Hopefully if enough people complain to T-Mobile about it, they might actually admit there is a problem and fix it.
Maybe the delays are because http traffic is proxied
Maybe the delays are because http traffic is proxied....
It looks like Orange are operating a proxy or some other form of protection. A few weeks ago I discovered that they had something in place to restrict access to adult sites, wouldn't have bothered me other than the site I was trying to visit was xda-developers.com.
Even followed their link to get the site unblocked and got a nice little responce stating "Your request has been actioned and the content is confirmed as only suitable for customers over the age of 18." before getting their filtering disabled.
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StuBFrost said:
I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
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Its also become random now, somtimes it connects and its instant, and actually fast even on normal GPRS, other times it can take over a couple of minutes to locate and open a page.
Doesnt seem to matter whether its a full signal or not, whether its after a reset or anything, totally depends on what T-Mobile feels like.
Maybe it cant cope with the number of web'n'walk use now.
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Exactly how i seem to find it, either it works or doesnt. There seems to be nothing u can do either to make it work, reboot, change from UTMS to 2g ot what ever. Nothing has any bearing and its most annoying, tbh i wish id never got the universal now as its a huge piece of junk, or at least the t- mobile ones are. Ive used a 02 one and its just soooooooooooooo much faster in everything.
im using the latest rom and even after flashing its still sluggish before anything is installed.
adam_beasley said:
StuBFrost said:
I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
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Its also become random now, somtimes it connects and its instant, and actually fast even on normal GPRS, other times it can take over a couple of minutes to locate and open a page.
Doesnt seem to matter whether its a full signal or not, whether its after a reset or anything, totally depends on what T-Mobile feels like.
Maybe it cant cope with the number of web'n'walk use now.
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Exactly how i seem to find it, either it works or doesnt. There seems to be nothing u can do either to make it work, reboot, change from UTMS to 2g ot what ever. Nothing has any bearing and its most annoying, tbh i wish id never got the universal now as its a huge piece of junk, or at least the t- mobile ones are. Ive used a 02 one and its just soooooooooooooo much faster in everything.
im using the latest rom and even after flashing its still sluggish before anything is installed.
Having been in a T-Mobile 3G area most of today (Loughborough, Leicestershire) the service itself has been as quick as ive ever used it, getting around 270k on a fairly medium signal.
The times it hasnt worked (long first time loading) it has returned to me with a server or IP error. I just assume that as web'n'walk is unlimited, but has restrictions on use, that the servers are overloaded trying to monitor or prevent certain services working.
Its been picking up a bit lately tho, im suffering the waiting times less and less each time I try. Tho 3G UMTS has really sucked the life out of my battery today, it may be best I keep it on 2G instead.
Haven't noticed any of these problems on T-Mobile in and around London. Have you all removed your "Content Lock"?
As mentioned earlier by Taz69, connection may be slowed down by the T-Mobile servers checking to see if you're 'allowed' to visit various sites?
I disabled my content lock ages ago using 'My T-Mobile' on www.t-mobile.co.uk - give it a go if you haven't already, it may make a difference?
My content is unlocked and always has been so it isn't that umfortunately.
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I get that, browsing using GPRS is painful on t-mobile
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So, Im not the only one :roll: Do you get the problem where it can take 30+ secs to switch between GRPS and 3G too?
Also, I spoke to T-Mobile about slow speeds and lack of connetivity - I can hardly get a signal in my office, although I am sat across road from a T-Mobile mast!!!
They said that as the mast across road was congested, my device was connecting via a mast further away (I like the idea of it not trying to get on a congested mast, but distance causes problems with connectivity too :roll: )
Other thing they pointed out was, if you call them with the postcode that has the problem, it gets logged...enough logs and they escalate it (I'm up to 6 logs in my postcode now lol)
How can I tell if it's switching? Mine says "Connected (GPRS, 3G)"
Since (re)removing the lock it does seem significantly faster though
If your connected via standard GPRS then the connected logo at the top of the screen will have a G on it, if your connected via 3G GPRS then it changes to a U (for UTMS).
Ive always had a delay swapping between the 2, yesterday my 3G signal kept dropping so it would switch back to 2G, and it kept doing this so much I couldnt get any internet for about 5 mins. I know you can turn the UMTS band off, but this makes buying a 3G phone pointless.
I have content lock off since day one, and its always been fast. Today theres been bo problems with the service at all, fast logon, good speed connections etc.
Seems a random thing lately, but its only been lately. Its been fine for a few months before, so hopefully its somthing there working on and it slowly getting sorted.
The problems could be down to the pay and go users Web and talk, for a max of £1 per day they get unlimited internet, see t-mobile for more info, this could be eating servers bandwith within certain areas, i was able to logon this morning, but after 9am i keep getting page cannot be found errors, The little u and the 2 arrows show me I'm conneted but i cant load any pages, I hope this is the case and t-mobile sort this out asap
I have had the same problem now for around a month. I am using Opera 8.60 and it takes around 1 minute to actually resolve the host name. Sites with adverts on take forever. I contacted T-Mobile and they said that the signal in my area is really good and there shouldn't be a problem. They told me to take the sim card out, wait 30 seconds and then reinsert it, and then try.
I have not yet had any luck, and it seems to be the same throughout the country, as I was in Cornwall over the weekend on holiday and it was just as bad.
P.S. I am in Liverpool, and I have a full 5 bar umts signal.

Signal problems i didnt have with my Wizard

I got the Hermes (cingular 8515) a couple of days ago. And everything is just fine but the most important part. I keep having dropped calls in places where the Wizard didnt have any problem at all.
ROM: 2.06.502.3
RADIO: 1.34.00.10
PROTOCOL. 32.67.7020.10H
I had the shipped ROM but i had this signal problems so i upgraded to this one in the hope that the problems would be solved but same thing.
Cingular did change my SIM card to a 3G one. I was wondering if it is a different network inside cingular and that is why i have problems. I really dont care about 3G, don't use it. Would my problem solve if i ask for a new regular SIM?
Thanks guys. I looked a lot for the same problem already posted so i dont repeat but didnt find anything, wich worries me a little
Yes, it could be that, because if you're in a major metropolitan area it'll try to use UMTS instead of GSM.
In any case, there is a fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844
This is a small app that will allow you to quickly change back and forth between the two.
If you don't want that, there's a reghack to enable a Band page in phone settings where you could force it back to GSM. Check the wiki.
Wow! thanks! it looks like the problem was solved!
I won't know for sure until i really tested it. But this is what i wanted to try

8525 WM6 WiFi Explorer Issue

Hi,
Just picked up a AT&T 8525 on Ebay last week and installed the leaded WM6 AT&T Rom on it. I have a strange issue. I can get all apps except Explorer to use the WiFi connection. When I'm on WiFi, Explorer can't make a connection. Check all of the obvious things that I could find on this site but the fact that Outlook, Opera, SlingPlayer, etc. work lead me to believe that it is something else.
Anyone have any ideas?
thanks,
Bill
before someone comes in and is all "learn how to search" or "GRR RTFW" lol i'll try to help
if you are running any official cingular/att rom they hard code the proxy into IE (or something lol) before you connect to wifi, go into the proxy manager in programs and disable the proxy. when you want to go back on to like medianet or whatnot, and not use the wifi, enable it. if that doesn't work i dunno, maybe someone with more experience can help ya
Thanks,
That was it.
(I did search the forums and wiki, BTW. Some people just don't have infinite amounts of free time.
Thanks
Thanks Cowboy, I searched xda and google for a bit before stumbling on this post. I was having the problem with the AT&T wm6 rom. Solved the issue, again, thanks.
WiFi
Why did I not have to do that for the 4/9/07 WM5 Rom on ATT 8525 but I do for the WM6?

Wlan problem, cant browse

Hi all, i've been searching and i cant find any info on this. I apologize if it is out there and i just didnt find it. If anyone knows of any threads, pls let me know. Here is my problem:
I recently upgraded my Hermes to wm6, i tried a few roms and settled for Schaps. Then i upgraded my radio, since my area of ceasars bay in brooklyn ny has the worst possible reception on the planet other than the south pole. I upgraded to 1.50 then down to 1.40, then up to 1.54.07, then back down to 1.48. Now, the problem starts.
ever since the upgrade to 1.54.07, i could not access the internet through the 3g/edge. i would get a "dialed modem ended session" or similar message. I do NOT have a data plan, but i was able to use it previously regardless and was charged per usage. After the upgrade, i could not use it regardless. Soo..i figured i could try something. I went on to ATT's site, and added a data plan to my acct. After that, the 3g/edge worked, but then my Wlan connection doesnt. Now, the question: DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TO DO? THanks in advance.
Try disabling the proxy.
Thanks, i reinstalled Schaps Rom and it was fine. i think it was because of a internet sharing cab that i installed.

Orange Service Problems

Hi there,
I have been trying to connect to Orange UK HSDPA, 3G and Edge networks for the past few days to browse internet, download email and rss, and update weather. My phone is unable to connect though. No problems with text or call delivery.
Anyone else suffering from this? Thanks.
yeah im experiencing the same but only of today.it was okay yesterday and i havent been cut off or anythng of the like.
dont really want to do a hard reset but i will do later and see it makes a difference.
what rom and radio are you using?
im using the 1.8 l26 rom
r 1.10.25.25
g 52.57.25.30u
d 1.14.38865
hey guys,
I work closely with orange and can report that there aren't any planned outages I am aware of for the orangeinternet APN (The public one). Our private APN seems to be working ok so the problem lies with the public service.
My suggestion is to get this reported to orange asap so they can diagnose the issue further especially if it is affecting multiple areas (i'm in huddersfield) and can confirm I have the same issue aswell.
Its not anything to do with radion/rom as I was running Dutty's extreme with radio 1.12 up until 2 nights ago - since which I have reverted back to the standard 1.14 orange ROM using the 1.09 radio and still am suffering the same issue as you guys.
hth - zoomee
Mine wouldn't work as of yesterday, quite late yesterday to be honest though. I am in Fife, Scotland. I'm running Dutty's extreme rom 2.1 for note, but doesn't seem to be Rom specific.
Does anyone have dropped call problems with their Orange HDs too? Mine seems to have developed the problem recently. Already had to send a few back so really not wanting to have to do it again!
thanks for your reply and sugestion zoomee
iv got to transfer 10Gb of data to a new sd and then il reflash my phone with a new radio, hard reset didnt solve anythng nor did re-doing the connection setup.
il report back in an hour or so when im done.
no i havent had any dropped call issues.does your wifi work okay?i can connect to my hub but am not receiving any data or internet access
definately something affecting the orangeinternet APN if its affecting us all - so far i've read reports from london, scotland and yorkshire about the same issue.
Sure it will be resolved come tommorow as they'll be on skeleton-staff over the weekend.
Wow, noticed no connection this morning tried a few times upto now thought id check in to see if anyone else having probs, i am in the midlands. Will give orange a ring now.
Got through the blurb on the auto answer system on orange, pre-recorded message we have probs and are trying to sort! dont hold your breath.
Looks like I picked a great day to flash my rom - didn't check connectivity before flashing, thought the rom was borked!!! No connection since about 8:00am which is when I flashed.
Same problem here, no connection since about 9pm yesterday.
I've got the £5/month 500mb but don't really use it that much(as I use wifi at home mainly) so didn't notice the problem till I read this, just checked and it appears I'm suffering as well(I'm in Reading, Berkshire).
do I use Orange Internet or Orange WAP setting? leaving it on default appears to be using Orange WAP, I don't want to be charged on the £1/day rather than the usage being taken out of the 500mb/month when I use 3g rather than wifi.
What timing! My new data bundle (500MB) had just kicked in (I got the service message around midnight) but no actual data service available. It was working at around 6pm, since I was looking up train times on the move, but by midnight there was nothing. At first I thought it was something in the service message had mucked things up, but my partner also had no data service when she checked.
The same here in Bristol, was working yesterday (although not quite as good coverage as normal) now it seems to have totally gone..
same here guys, i'm in Letchworth, Hertfordshire.
but only experiencing problems since this morning,
Nightmare
Ok that makes 13 people all on Orange who are using various stock and Dutty or similar ROMS who are experiencing the same issue. With the recording from orange added to the info its fair to say its an orange weekend issue.
When I checked my connection settings I found the modem section greyed out. To be specific when I go to start>Settings>click on the connection tab>select the connection icon>then click on manage existing connections>then select edit. In the second drop down box on the orange internet settings screen it says "select a modem" the content of that box is set to Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) but it is greyed out and unable to select or change.
Would someone be kind enough to check the same please as I am concerned my modem is dead!
Thanks very much in advance. I appreciate your help whilst pulling out large clumps of hair.
Heefy
I'm getting the same problem, could use Internet on the move with my Touch HD yesterday up until early evening, then nothing - just times out when I try and connect
Standard 1.14 ROM btw
Heefy said:
In the second drop down box on the orange internet settings screen it says "select a modem" the content of that box is set to Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) but it is greyed out and unable to select or change.
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Mine is exactly the same. If I create a complete new connection I do get to select a modem though, but its greyed out on my existing one
thanks
alltruism said:
Mine is exactly the same. If I create a complete new connection I do get to select a modem though, but its greyed out on my existing one
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Thanks for your reply you have made me a happier man. I was thinking my modem was knackered.
H
Heefy said:
Ok that makes 13 people all on Orange who are using various stock and Dutty or similar ROMS who are experiencing the same issue. With the recording from orange added to the info its fair to say its an orange weekend issue.
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I don't think it's device-related at all -- I'm running stock 1.19 still (radio 1.09.25.25 from memory) but my other half is running an antique TyTN and it's dead for her too.
Heefy said:
When I checked my connection settings I found the modem section greyed out. To be specific when I go to start>Settings>click on the connection tab>select the connection icon>then click on manage existing connections>then select edit. In the second drop down box on the orange internet settings screen it says "select a modem" the content of that box is set to Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) but it is greyed out and unable to select or change.
Would someone be kind enough to check the same please as I am concerned my modem is dead!
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Just the same here, the modem selection dropdown is greyed out -- but I think that's normal, although I can't be sure because I never really noticed before.
wuzzie said:
I don't think it's device-related at all -- I'm running stock 1.19 still (radio 1.09.25.25 from memory) but my other half is running an antique TyTN and it's dead for her too.
Just the same here, the modem selection dropdown is greyed out -- but I think that's normal, although I can't be sure because I never really noticed before.
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Now I am feeling much better. I guess we just wait until Orange guys and girls walk into the office tomorrow and resolve the issue. Oh BTW my sky internet on my PC was very slow and sporadic early hours of this morning. Maybe its a radio mast, transmitter or a lump of space metal not working properly?
Thanks again. Great community.
H
sorry for my late reply. i flashed and hard reset and i have a connection.
if you can afford to, do a back up and hard reset perhaps and then re run ur connection setup.
thanks for all your ur input, hopefully orange will sort this as i have two contracts with them and im not getting my moneys worth, even if it is for a day.i like my money

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