I once read how to disable the tracking as your phone as a modem. I used pdanet and got caught by Sprint for an extra 35 dollars. Did not download any huge files just email and surfing for a couple of weeks while out of town. UI read that their is a registry edit that you can change so your carrier can't tell that you are using the phone as a modem. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I used the service fine on my treo 700wx but when I switched to the mogul I got caught.
You should double-check that you have a data plan on your account. Sprint can't detect tethering via PDANet.
I do have the unlimited data plan
I believe that there is a post in PPCGeeks about deleting a registry link for IS and that getting rid of at least the old connection error. Not so sure about tracking just yet... I haven't kept up with it as I haven't needed to tether just yet.
try this:
go to
\\\registry\HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem\
and change these all to a value of zero. They will probably each be set to 1.
CheckProfile
Multi-NAI
WModemDUN
Then you can choose Phone as Modem as your default connection. This will also enable to to use Internet Sharing with your laptop or desktop.
One caveat however, and I am not sure why this happens, but sometimes you can get the error 67 registration failure message from sprint when using this to connect to a laptop. I would HIGHLY suggest getting a good backup software such as Sprite Backup or another one someone could suggest before using this with your laptop. I have found that if that situation does occur, you'll either have to restore your backup, or (if you didn't back up) hard reset your phone if you ever want to have an internet connection again. Something seems to lock up for good when that happens.
So, that aside, I get faster speeds than before using PAM as my normal everyday connection. I rarely connect my phone to my laptop, so I rarely have to restore a backup. I have noticed that I can connect to my laptop without ANY third party software (unless you count the internet sharing app as 3rd party.)
Here's how it works for me, I usually follow this routine when connecting to my laptop:
1) make a backup
2) connect my phone to the pc (ENSURE THE PC HAS NO INTERNET ACCESS)
3) activesync, or WMDC if you have Vista
4) start Pocket Internet Explorer on your Mogul so your connection to Sprint occurs.
5) Once the home page loads (mine's XDA ) you can then open the Internet Sharing application.
6) Once in the Internet Sharing application, choose USB for the PC Connection in the drop down box
7) Choose Phone as Modem as the Network Connection from the drop down box.
8) Hit Connect in the bottom left hand corner (or hit the left softkey)
9) Your laptop will do the rest and you will have the Internet at your fingertips in no time. Enjoy!
under connection settings, and manage exisiting connections there are 2 options, "Sprint PCS" and "Phone As A Modem" i changed mine from auto pick to always use Sprint PCS (not sure what they has to do with anything as they both dial the same number)
regardless, i dont think sprint even lets you use PAM if you dont have the tethering plan (unless you use something like pdanet) and if they did decide to charge you for it im sure theyd hit you for more than 35 dollars, considering the tethering plan is additional 40 a month in the first place
quit posting crap that you don't have a clue about
before any more BS goes flying, i'd suggest everyone go check out the 'Debunking the multi-nai hack' on PPCGeeks.com READ THE WHOLE POST! the good stuff is in the middle... member luv2chill has graciously provided us the single step necessary to prevent the 'Internet Sharing' app from detecting tethering.
can we please make a sticky about this so the less-informed don't have to wade through the tons of useless opinions and crap and mis-information? I'd be willing to write a definitve guide if it would be sticky'd!!
I have used PDANet for several months and have not been charged. I surf the web, stream videos, all day while at work. No charges yet.
hunterdg said:
before any more BS goes flying, i'd suggest everyone go check out the 'Debunking the multi-nai hack' on PPCGeeks.com READ THE WHOLE POST! the good stuff is in the middle... member luv2chill has graciously provided us the single step necessary to prevent the 'Internet Sharing' app from detecting tethering.
can we please make a sticky about this so the less-informed don't have to wade through the tons of useless opinions and crap and mis-information? I'd be willing to write a definitve guide if it would be sticky'd!!
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If you're referring to me posting crap I don't know about, I DONT have a tethering plan, and have used this method since I got the mogul a long time ago. I have yet to be charged by sprint. Have you tried this yourself to see if it's 'crap?'
Please if you know the single step to allow internet sharing to work, please post it. Also, being a D!CK doesn't get you very far here.
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I have used PDANet for several months and have not been charged. I surf the web, stream videos, all day while at work. No charges yet.
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pdanet is NOT necessary.
tethering (via Internet Sharing, NOT MODEM) works (with a small hack), straight out of the box,..
see the PPCpost i referred to
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If you're referring to me posting crap I don't know about, I DONT have a tethering plan, and have used this method since I got the mogul a long time ago. I have yet to be charged by sprint. Have you tried this yourself to see if it's 'crap?'
Please if you know the single step to allow internet sharing to work, please post it. Also, being a D!CK doesn't get you very far here.
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the reg hack that you refer to:
\\\registry\HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem\
and change these all to a value of zero. They will probably each be set to 1.
CheckProfile
Multi-NAI
WModemDUN
doesn't accomplish squat.
you could delete the whole 'wmodem' key and see no difference (to all, i do NOT suggest doing this unless you know what you're doing)
the two connections in the 'Sprint' profile..
'Sprint PCS' and 'Phone as Modem' differ only in the name. they both accomplish the EXACT same thing, specifically, dial #777, enter blank username/pword/domain.
you could delete them and create your own connection that dials #777 and see no difference at all (to all, i do NOT suggest doing this unless you know what you're doing)
see the post i referred to.. In it i explain the reason for your intermittent error 67.
p.s. the 'crap' comment was not aimed at you specifically, but rather everyone who has posted their 'thoughts'
i.e., you posted your fix, but yet you admit you get recurrent intermittent error 67's.... THUS your 'FIX' does not work.. why post it?
First time I tethered I got the error 67, and it didn't go away. Apparently the system Sprint uses to assing your device/connection a username and password doesn't always sync right.
I created a vision username/password on the Sprint website and use that for my connection, and removed the "guardian" application to prevent it from messing up the connection. Since then all has been fine.
hunterdg said:
the reg hack that you refer to:
\\\registry\HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\WModem\
and change these all to a value of zero. They will probably each be set to 1.
CheckProfile
Multi-NAI
WModemDUN
doesn't accomplish squat.
you could delete the whole 'wmodem' key and see no difference (to all, i do NOT suggest doing this unless you know what you're doing)
the two connections in the 'Sprint' profile..
'Sprint PCS' and 'Phone as Modem' differ only in the name. they both accomplish the EXACT same thing, specifically, dial #777, enter blank username/pword/domain.
you could delete them and create your own connection that dials #777 and see no difference at all (to all, i do NOT suggest doing this unless you know what you're doing)
see the post i referred to.. In it i explain the reason for your intermittent error 67.
p.s. the 'crap' comment was not aimed at you specifically, but rather everyone who has posted their 'thoughts'
i.e., you posted your fix, but yet you admit you get recurrent intermittent error 67's.... THUS your 'FIX' does not work.. why post it?
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Sorry for any confusion. Thanks for posting that link, I'll check it out.
my 'FIX' works to a T when I follow it correctly. It allows me to tether without any charges and without PDANet. That's the reason I posted it.
It's all so simple.... You must have Activesync installed on the PC for the needed drivers, then just plug the usb into PC/laptop and not the phone yet.
1. Simply Open IE on Titan to start Data link (Or to eliminate this step Do luv2chill's Reg Edit)
2. Open Internet sharing and hit connect
3. Plug usb into Titan
Always hit disconnect on Titan Before unplugging (unless you did Luv2chill's edit, recommended)
Leave settings in IS to Sprint PCS not PAM or they can tell.
Here's the post on PPCGeeks.com that hunterdg was referring to:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9418&highlight=Debunking+the+multi-nai+hack&page=1
Read it through entirely to get some more info on how this works. It was enlightening, thank you both hunterdg and luv2chill for your research.
you simply have to delete the registry key at
HKLM\Comm\Internet Sharing
"Extension"="rilphone.dll"
in for answer on this, i just switched over to sprint and have been very hesistant to use the internet sharing app
hay112 said:
in for answer on this, i just switched over to sprint and have been very hesistant to use the internet sharing app
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It is as simple as burrito is saying. Delete that registry entry and it will work. I plug my phone into the pc, cancel Activesync connection, hit Internet Sharing and wa-la tethered Mogul. Make sure you don't spike your usage as some have said this may tip Sprint off. You also might want an unlimited data plan, SERO is great.
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It is as simple as burrito is saying. Delete that registry entry and it will work. I plug my phone into the pc, cancel Activesync connection, hit Internet Sharing and wa-la tethered Mogul. Make sure you don't spike your usage as some have said this may tip Sprint off. You also might want an unlimited data plan, SERO is great.
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cool beans, thank u sir
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Leave settings in IS to Sprint PCS not PAM or they can tell.
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this is INCORRECT
I could be mistaken but I swear the latest version of WMwifirouter fixes the reg for you so that wont happen.
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Hi I am new to this part of ppc life. I have an xda exec and wififofum enabled.
I can find access points that show internet connection but when I start IE to surf the web my grps connects and I connect that way instead of via wifi..
am I missing something.
sorry sorry sorry for the noob question, just never used this before and am sure I am not taking advantage in anyway of my devices capability.
Please help.. oh and i need it from the start..
cheers
Magpie2000k
before we start diagnosing have you changed any settings or hard reset the device in anyway?
Bryson
Bryson I have in the past but
It is installed on 02 mms gprs etc all work.
The device is standard in all ways i believe
your help is appreciated
Ok, lets try this lot first:
goto the wireless manager screen, and select the wifi tab, this should fire up wifi.....then hit settings bottom right hand side of wirless manager screen.
Hit wireless LAN settings and it should bring up the Wireless LAN Status screen.
At the bottom left hand corner of screen there should a small image of a PDA, hit that, and it will take you to the Configure wireless Networks screen, and in there, if a Newtork (hotpsot as you say) is detected, you should be able to hold your Styli on the detected network and click Connect.
Make sure on this screen also that it is set to ALL AVAILABLE networks to access. You should now be online if you are in a hotspot and have paid to connect up etc.
If that fails, look to the right of the Wirelss tab at bottom, there should be a Newtork Adapters tab, Hit that.
See what you have 'My network connects me to:' drop down box and select internet, NOT work.
Give this a go and let me know if succesful, I hope so!
Bryson
ok cheers
I can see the available connections but it cant connect so I guess that is because these are not hotspots but individuals wireless networks..
SHame I cant just hook up to them LOL
Am I correct or do I have to do something else.
cheers again
Magpie
yeah, thats what I think it will be, if you get a chance bob into a hotpsot in a starbu$ks or simlilar and give it a whirl to see if that is the case, you should hook straight up to them and be taken to their 'pay me loads of money screen for 1hrs web access' when you fire up I.E !!
Good luck keep us posted!
Bryson
so how do we...
do this without pay loads of money.. I know people do it
is there no standard way or none standard as the case may be
I have never connected to the internet using wifi so after reading instructions above i drove down to the local McDonalds where i know you can get a connection and followed instructions, i got a signal but come unstuck when i was asked for a pass key. I assume i have to pay to get this wifi connection and pass key but how do i go about doing this? Please help a thicko, many thanks.
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I have never connected to the internet using wifi so after reading instructions above i drove down to the local McDonalds where i know you can get a connections...
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I think you are referring to BT Openzone - a public network of wifi hotspots at sites like McDonalds, Wetherspoons bars, etc
I used to use it with my old PDA so my knowledge is quite out of date, but when I used it, I had to sign up BT first, giving them a bank account details for billing. In return you get a username and password to get access to their network. I was then billed monthly - at a rate of 50p a minute, using the time I entered my username/password to the time I returned to btopenzone.com to logoff.
It was okay for the occasional quick dip online, but it was too pricey for extended use.
Like I say, my knowledge is very old, so do check btopenzone.com for their latest prices. But if its anything like it used to be, I'd stick with GPRS if I were you.
I have free unlimited data for a few months, but when it is over I would like my phone to never connect to the internet through the carrier unless I specifically tell it to (Prefer to use the WiFi feature). Is there a setting, registry hack or other way that I can do this. I appologize if this is not a mogul specific question, I just figured it would be hardware specific.
yeah, there are a few free programs i've found on on xda that allow you to disable the gprs, etc... then all you have to do flick on your wifi switch and you're good to go.
I've attached a copy of the program that i personally use. I found it on this site but i don't have a clue what thread it was....
what i've done is after installing the program i set the "voice dail" button on my phone to activate the NoData program instead. Then i can easily toggle off the services i wish to use.... keeping them turned off also increases your battery life tremendously
Thanks for the reply. I tried that app, the connection that came up was CDMA1X so I disbled it, and then went to internet explorer it still browsed the web without a wifi connection, so I assume this didn't work.
Do you have sprint? If so, I'm not sure why you're phone would have a different setup than mine. When using that program i have two listings come up: 1. Phone as Modem, 2. Sprint PCS.
If i disable both i get only wifi.
thanks
I have Telus in Canada.
jjlwork said:
I have Telus in Canada.
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ok i just played around with my phone a little more and have one other idea.
begin by tapping: start>settings>connections tab>connections>manage existing connections
select one of the options in the list and then tap the "proxy settings" tab.
uncheck the box "This network connects to the internet".
Repeat for each connection.
Hopefully this will solve your problem
I tried that too, unfortunately when I close the connections settings and go back in the check mark is back.
Hi, I'm not sure if you have solved this problem already but, somehow I did. I went to manage existing connections and assign a username and password . So now whenever, it tries to connect on the dial up (cdma1x), it prompts for a password, just press "cancel". I also have some programs for different home screens and contacts manager if you're interested.
YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! YAY! This program has allowed me to kill all apps from using the data connection which lets USB Modem actually WORK on my Mogul! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
its been posted before, but i wanted to clarify, so dont yell at me... (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325973)
I dont suscribe to data, but want to use wi fi. so if i use that no data thing, is it possible?
thanks
aurash
at times i would just airplane mode at times and just use wifi, even for calls. So yeah you can do that...
so wifi on the verizon mogul is free and nothing will be charged to me for using it. (I dont have the data plan)
encephalon9986 said:
so wifi on the verizon mogul is free and nothing will be charged to me for using it. (I dont have the data plan)
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If you don't have a data block, you run the risk of of connecting to EvDo and getting charged 'pay as you go'.
But then there was a change to the data plan about a month ago and I hear it is now nearly impossible to NOT have a real data plan.
Originally Posted by worwig
If you don't have a data block, you run the risk of of connecting to EvDo and getting charged 'pay as you go'.
But then there was a change to the data plan about a month ago and I hear it is now nearly impossible to NOT have a real data plan.
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yeah thats what ive heard. It seems like if you want a ppc or smartphone that your have to get the data package to even get the phone. thanks for the quick response.
This is something I banged out for a couple of Sprint users, but it covers the basics of what you have to do for other carriers as well:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180141
I just switched from Qwest to Verizon and got upgraded to the 6800 from the 6700. To get around the data plan you can use the pay as you go just change the dial up number to anything but #777 and you never connect to the network and don't get charged.
I dont have a data plan either. I use the wifi all the time. the main reason I got this phone was for the wifi capability. I am curious how to use it uner flight mode because it never lets me..
Completely disable 3g data connections forever, and still use wifi
This is my first contribution to xda-forums! I'm glad I can help at all when I've benefitted so much... Thanks to all!
NOTE: After the following steps, Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably will want to use Nodata, and NOT the following solution. You just might have to open Nodata and disable the data connection every time you soft-reset.
I was finally able to completely 100% block the 3g data connection on my Verizon XV6800 (aka Mogul aka Titan) was the following three steps:
1. The key culprit is HTC_CM_Guardian.exe in the windows directory. I couldn't edit it or delete it via Total Commander file explorer, but I was able to rename it! This makes the OS unable to find the program when it tries to re-set the Data connection settings.
2. Under Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > "Select which networks are automatically used," hit "Select Networks."
3. Under "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" hit "New...".
4. Enter any name you want (mine's "nodata!") and leave all the other settings blank.
5. To be safe, you may have to delete the Verizon Or "Internet" Connection on the Tasks Tab of Settings > Connections > Connections. Save and exit.
Voila! Wifi, yes; 3g, no! No more nasty billing surprises.
Modaco's Nodata program is awesome, but the problem was that HTC_CM_Guardian.exe re-enabled the data connection every time I reset the phone. Plus, HTC_CM_Guardian.exe would also thwart any effort to block data via the "Connection Settings." By renaming HTC_CM_Guardian.exe and creating a "nodata!" connection that programs auto-connecting to the internet would try to use (and fail), we get three results:
1. Modaco's Nodata doesn't even register that a data connection exists! For this reason, if you occasionally use 3g, you probably won't to use this solution.
2. When you reboot, the OS is unable to mess-up your "Connection Settings", so
3. Unless you have an active wifi connection, programs will try to connect to the Internet using the "nodata!" settings, which, being empty, will fail, exactly as planned.
Hope it helps.
simple solution
It's a lot easier to check the "use dialing rules" box. I had a HTC Touch that I used this on and when I lost that, went to a Mogul. I love the wifi on it! I worked as a ATS rep for Sprint for 5 years and half the time when a windows phone would not connect to vision, it was the checked dialing rules box or a wrong number like the customer's own number instead of the dialing string. I tried just deleting the dialing string but even a soft reset caused the phone to recreate the #777 as well as the phone as modem #777. I hated the phone connecting on it's own, bumping the wrong button in my pocket, and I know this will work every time. EVDO data transfer charges without a plan will cap at $75 now but still why take the chance? If you absolutely have to get on the web and there's no wifi around, break down, call *2 and add a $15 vision plan, do what you need to like find a location with Live search then cancel it the next day. The plan will be prorated from when you added it to when it was cancelled. The only hitch is you have to allow your device to IOTA successfully while in a Sprint service area once to get the data settings in the phone which entails the data transfer again. Ahhh, I'm liking the wifi more and more......
HTC 6800 wm 6.1
HTC 6900 wm 6.1
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I posted this at PPCgeeks but all I got were cricket chirps. This seems to be an intelligent crowd here at XDA so I thought I'd give it a shot.
So now that the new ROM is out, I'm wondering if the old ICS vs. Wmodem contraversy is still applicable for those people who want to tether without the extra data charges? I've deleted the Extensions=rilphone.dll registry entry, disabled the multi-NAI entries (though I've read on here that it really doesn't matter), (but have not done the OpenDNS hack).
What concerns me is this: The procedure as I understand it, is to open PIE to establish the EVDO connection on your phone. Open ICS and then tether to the computer and establish the data connection. Without the extension=rilphone.dll registry entry, ICS sees the existing M.IP 1 connection and does not attempt to prefix the NAI domain... rather it uses the existing connection. (see http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9418 for more)... By doing this, you do not alert Sprint that you're using PAM.
BUT... when I open PIE, the connection manager establishes a #777 connection. I then start ICS and click connect. As soon as I then plug in the USB cable, the connection manager re-opens and re-establishes a #777 connection. This worries me because I thought it was supposed to detect the existing connection and not re-establish.
Was there a change in the new ROM that makes ICS prefix the NAI with a PAM indicator (thus allerting Sprint and incurring extra charges)? Or is this normal behavior and nothing to be concerned about?
I'm not sure about Sprint but ICS never redials any connection that I can see... has worked the same on all dcd roms I've tried.
I don't think there's anything that "alerts" the carriers you're tethering, the pay feature to tether actually uses your phone as a modem and actually "dials out" from your pc... different method completely
If you get the simply everthing plan and ask them to put PAM on your package they dont charge anything extra. Thats what I did, I called CS and asked them and they put it on their. If that will help and if you have the simply everthing plan.
Is there anyway to make the phone connect to the internet using wifi before it will use alltel?
I know how to set my wifi adapter to access the internet.. But alltel data is always active and I cannot even utilize the wifi feature.
The only way i have been able to get it to use Wifi for internet is if I delete the alltel data settings. But i need them inthere incase I am not bear an open access point.
Ive searched the forum and found no relavent information. If I have missed it, please direct me to it... Thanks!
Just delete the connection. If you have a stock rom the connection will come back on its own after a restart. If on custom rom then just install an alltel carrier cab if you want it back.
So there isnt any way to keep the data and make it secondary? I go in and out of wifi coverage all day and it would be nice to have it connect to data if needed. thanks for the reply.
not that i know of
nodata utility. Lets you disable your data and just use wifi. Then when you want it back you just toggle it to enable. Worked good for me
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
i love how people are so quick to say "no, no & no"
then they get schooled from the autumnal equinox of 2006
nice application
i knew i had seen it before
but didn't have the linkopottamus
i love how people are so quick to say "no, no & no"
then they get schooled from the autumnal equinox of 2006
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Lol, thanks for the info, i havent been here in a couple days, but I will try it out...
I had my internet setup to use wifi before i flashed my phone the last time, but when I deleted the data connection this time, it did not work..
I obviously did something else and I cant remember what it was. I found where I could "delete settings" for alltel even after I deleted the main connection. I think that did it..
Now after that I could connect to facebook app via wifi, but IE would not work.. For that I had to go in and change the way apps that need to connect to a private network to My ISP as well.
It just seems to me that there is an easy way to do this... Would also be nice to be able to tell and change whether a program is connecting automatically to the internet or private network. I wonder if that is a registry setting that can be changed..
I also just have removed the password from the data connection. Rarely, I mean rare, when I use data as I enabled WiFi first. If I really want to use data, I punch in the password.
There was also a real cool app I saw that I forgot to tag the thread. But it would do things based on the cell tower you were using. I thought it might have had controls for WiFi as well, it definitely did for ring setting.