TomTom minimizes everything when device wakes up - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Greetings all, Wonder if anyone can help on this one.. we supply mobiles (Orange M600, O2 Orbit and HTC 3300 currently) with our delivery driver software on , this software interfaces with TomTom (currently 6.030) to route drivers to destinations , when the unit goes into suspend/sleep mode (ie the power button is pressed) and then woken up (power pressed again) tomtom minimizes itself and anything else thats running at the time ie our software, anyone know how to stop tomtom from minimizing or how to stop it from taking everything else with it - contacted tomtom support who are (unsurprisingly) a waste of time.

I think tomtom minimises itself by design when you press a softkey or power. for instance whilst navigating if I want to check my email I hit end call and it brings to today screen up.
only thing I can think of trying is in today settings switching off today timeout.
don't think buttons are configurable in tomtom.
hope this helps.

thanx 4 the response - unfortunately this won't sort it - the users will inevitabley press the powerbutton when using the device and this just minimizes everything when power is turned back on - if tomtom isn't running at this point there is no problem.

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minimising Tom Tom

Can TT5 be minimised so it is in the background all the time or do you always have to exit the application?
well i have just tried, and you can press the txt button and it will take you out but when you close it, it goes back to tomtom. So that would be a NO
lochindaal said:
Can TT5 be minimised so it is in the background all the time or do you always have to exit the application?
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The problem is not if TT5 (or TT6) can be minimised, it can, but how. A solution is using one or more utilities to map a hardware buttons to the required functions.
In my case (but it is only a sample) I have AE Button Plus (http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php) and WisBar Advance (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/). I mapped a double press of the calendar button to the cascade menu of Wisbar. This menu includes at top an item to show the today screen. Thererefore, when TT runs, the sequence "double press calendar" plus "press down" plus "press enter" has TT minimised in the task bar.
I just press the red end call button when in tomtom and it takes me out to the today screen. The tomtom hands are in the task bar to press when I want to go back into it. I find this works well for me while driving.
soapybible said:
I just press the red end call button when in tomtom and it takes me out to the today screen. The tomtom hands are in the task bar to press when I want to go back into it. I find this works well for me while driving.
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This solution doesn't work with TT6.
(But saying that, I'm now not sure!!!) :lol:
I'll edit this accordingly.
I do apologise, it does. Hmmm there was something that didn't!!! :lol:
Pressing the "end call" button works on TT6
It works on my MDA vario
Greetz ET
what i do is press the mail button then tap on start---today that minimizes TT6 for me.
Bear in mind, you don't really want TT running in the background constantly, unless you're connected to a power source. The number of times I have accidentally started TomTom as I put my phone in my pocket, only to come back a few hours later and find it's sapped my battery to about 10%, and my phone is roasting hot.
The new version of TomTom starts in about 10 seconds, that's fast enough for me. In fact, I must check if TT6 uses the same "busy loop" programming as TT5, where it constantly uses the processor even when it's doing nothing but display a static screen - I was surprised TomTom sorted out the startup time, I'd be shocked if they'd sorted that out.
I want to keep it running so I get in the habit of turning it on for the speed camera database every time I get in the car.
I have an always on GPS in the car and as long as TT is running each time I walk away and come back it picks up the GPS each time. I know if I have to start TT each time I'll not do it.
Thanks for your help
Didn't anyone read in several post before that by pressing the "end" call button tomtom will minamize? this works perfectly on my mda/qtek WM5.
Greetz ET

Anyone else having trouble with Mortsaver?

Hi again, I've just installed mortSaver primarily for turning off the screen but keeping my lecture video audio still running in the background. I've used this excellent application on all my other phones no problem. However on my M700 the buttons dont seem to work ie.Deactivation using assigned button (button 1) + button 2 absolutely does not work. Even using only button 1 for activation AND deactivation doesnt work (deactivation part). Have to get out of it by the escape sequence (2 presses of the power button within 10secs). However this ends up soft-resetting the unit (proper power off).
Any ideas on what to do or alternative applications to deactivate the screen but keep the video running in the background please?
dabs1 said:
Hi again, I've just installed mortSaver primarily for turning off the screen but keeping my lecture video audio still running in the background. I've used this excellent application on all my other phones no problem. However on my M700 the buttons dont seem to work ie.Deactivation using assigned button (button 1) + button 2 absolutely does not work. Even using only button 1 for activation AND deactivation doesnt work (deactivation part). Have to get out of it by the escape sequence (2 presses of the power button within 10secs). However this ends up soft-resetting the unit (proper power off).
Any ideas on what to do or alternative applications to deactivate the screen but keep the video running in the background please?
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I used MortSaver on my Jam, which was running WM2003. When I upgraded to a Jamin, I couldn't get it to work anymore. I haven't even tried it with my Trinity because I just assumed that Mortsaver doesn't work properly in WM5. I think it is quite an old version.
Hello,
Mortsaver works fine on my Dopod D810.
Here is a list of my options:
Deactivation:
Screen off timeout: 10
Power off timeout: 10
1st Button: Button 1
2nd Button: None
Show countdown after call: ticked
Other application buttons: unticked
Power
Turn off device: both unticked
This works fine when i'm using mortplayer in the background to listen to music (to unlock press power then voice command button). If this fails you might want to try downloading the latest version from the authors website.

Power management problems/disillusions

I have my P3600 since Saturday and I updated it with the latest ROM which included the GPS.
Now I’m having problems with the power settings and functionality. I search all the threads for solutions but no similar problems are described so I post a new thread.
Problem 1:
The power settings are: backlight off after 30 sec. power off after 1 min. (on battery power). After 30 sec. the backlight dims to the lowest setting but the device does not switch off after 1 min (or any time for that matter). This is a huge drain on the battery! I can switch off the device with the power button but once it turns on again (e.g. while receiving an SMS or email) it stays on with the dimmed backlight.
Problem 2:
Using a Bluetooth headset and the media player the player pauses when switched of with the power button. This means just listening to music for around an hour and the battery is completely flat. My previous device was a S200 and that worked fine (could be switched off with the power button).
My guess is that both problems may have simple solutions so I’m asking you all to help me with this.
Thanks in advance,
Stefan
niobium said:
I have my P3600 since Saturday and I updated it with the latest ROM which included the GPS.
Now I’m having problems with the power settings and functionality. I search all the threads for solutions but no similar problems are described so I post a new thread.
Problem 2:
Using a Bluetooth headset and the media player the player pauses when switched of with the power button. This means just listening to music for around an hour and the battery is completely flat. My previous device was a S200 and that worked fine (could be switched off with the power button).
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Well for problem 2 you haven't searched enough! Anyway you should not use the power button; go to the Windows Media player settings and map the "Toggle screen" function to a hardware button. Then toggle the screen off when you play music.
Regarding your other problem: what software have you installed? Have you got this problem on a freshly upgraded phone?
The solution you propose for problem 2 probably works for other devices but not for the Trinity. You can only assign buttons up, down, left, right and enter and they are needed within the player for obvious functions.
Problem 1 after fresh ROM update but right after that I installed TomTom 6.
I might try a new ROM update and check but rather as last resort...
niobium said:
The solution you propose for problem 2 probably works for other devices but not for the Trinity. You can only assign buttons up, down, left, right and enter and they are needed within the player for obvious functions.
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It works for the Trinity too. You can also assign other functions to buttons if you keep them pressed. Toggle screen is assigned to "Hold Down" in my case. So if I press down once I decrease the volume, if I keep pressed I toggle the screen.
As to your first problem; i'm having the same problem too...
To narrow it down a bit; my device turns off (to standby) just like it should when i just briefly check the time or something and then put it away with the todayscreen on (so with no aplications running except some today-plugins ofcourse). However; it DOESN'T go back to sleep when the system has given any sort of notification, like a missed call or a received text-message or reminder for a calendar-item.
So my best guess is that it has something to do with the databases notification que (where WM2003/CE 4 had the problem of overflowing this notification que).
It's really anonying the hell out of me too, cause it really drains the battery fast if you don't discover it soon enough...
As for problem 2; map the screen-toggle to pressing the silver 'enter'button.....that workd great for me. By the way; i'm tinking about getting the new wired media remote control HTC is releasing shortly (check this link). I wonder if these buttons will be mappable.....
Edit: just as i posted this, i received a text message and this time it nicely turned back to standby (ie turned of) state when i didn't check it right away. I did however soft-reset last night before going to sleep. So i really do think it must be in the notification que somewhere, as PocketPlus will still clear that everytime i soft reset. Anyone having the same problem exactly as described ?
Well I found my phone again on after I received an SMS and this made me decide to completely reinstall the original ROM (including the GPS).
Step by step I installed all the applications (and tested the device in between: I started some programs and got some notification).
So far the result is that it all works fine now.
The difference might be the different ROM (from smartmobility.nl in stead of europe.htc.com although the version is exactly the same).
For problem 2: I unmapped the button 1 (was speed dial and moved that one to press&hold). In media player I mapped the button to ‘toggle screen’. I still like the S200 for this better because it only kept the media player & Bluetooth alive so that’s the best for preserving the battery…
niobium said:
For problem 2: I unmapped the button 1 (was speed dial and moved that one to press&hold). In media player I mapped the button to ‘toggle screen’. I still like the S200 for this better because it only kept the media player & Bluetooth alive so that’s the best for preserving the battery…
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Hmmmm....i do the screen-toggle everytime i use it as a musicplayer, and i get considerable good batterylife....
However, i'm not using the BT headset anymore cause the volume was too dim...i'm using the 3,5mm adapterplug now. But batterylife with bluetooth was about the same when i used it.
After all the work yesterday, this morning the problem with not going to standby occured again!
But now I know more. It happened only after I added some sites to my RSS feedreader.
I use pRSSreader from David Andrs (http://pda.jasnapaka.com/prssr/)
Using the 'update settings' with 'automatically connect' the program tries to create a notification on the today screen if new messages arive.
This notification process is the problem. If I switch it of and soft-reset, the device works fine again.
I will mention this problem to David Andrs...
I hope this will help you as well.

end call button

I've search through:
Gaijin Guide for x01HT
Video Call Button
Hermes Wiki
A bunch of searches have come up empty.
Softbank x01HT
Using Pays Rom WM6.1
or K's Pro rom
Call Button OK.
The Video Button and End Call button however do not work (screen menus work fine)
Any suggestions?
Any suggestions
Buttons not working
If a button stops working, yet you know the functionality still works, then I'd suggest a battery reset. Simply remove the battery from your 8525 (must be completely out) for about 15-20 seconds, place it back into your 8525 and turn it on.
I had to do this back when I had iPAQs and Dell Axims, and have to do it with my 8525 from time-to-time when my camera button stops working. This performs a hardware reset. As long as your battery is in your 8525, there is essentially power flowing within the 8525, even though you have the screen turned off. By doing this, you're allowing all power to drain from the 8525's circuit cards/boards and performing a hardware reset (whereas using the stylus only gives you a software reset).
I hope this helps you!
Thanks. No dice (sorry for late reply).
Changing the os to AT&T clears up the call / end button. The moment I load a homebrew like pays, TnT ... The call/end/video buttons stop.
Very Odd.

Lock the screen while using Tomtom

Hello,
I'd like to use my HD with Tomtom on my motorbike (HD in the pocket, navigation instructions over to my Sony bluetooth headset).
Trouble is, of course, that in my pocket, the screen is pressed and Tomtom exits.
Is there a way to launch Tomtom and then lock the screen before putting it in my pocket ?
Thanks !
same problem here.
rahan95 said:
Hello,
I'd like to use my HD with Tomtom on my motorbike (HD in the pocket, navigation instructions over to my Sony bluetooth headset).
Trouble is, of course, that in my pocket, the screen is pressed and Tomtom exits.
Is there a way to launch Tomtom and then lock the screen before putting it in my pocket ?
Thanks !
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I'm using Navigon on my HD and after locking the screen (press and hold the end key), the Navigon just continues to give driving instructions. Wouldn't that work with TomTom?
locking
Problem I believe is once tomtom looses focus then it stops working. Need to lock it while staying focused on the tomtom screen.
Also if the tomtom looses focus then the phone goes to sleep after period X
C110User said:
I'm using Navigon on my HD and after locking the screen (press and hold the end key), the Navigon just continues to give driving instructions. Wouldn't that work with TomTom?
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It doesn't : Tomtom keeps working in the background but no instructions coming through =(
There are two ways to lock the device while continue to run TomTom (with the instructions):
1) Press Today button, then lock the device in normal way;
2) Install Gyrator2. With the default settings it will lock your device when inseting stylos back to device.
First solution doesn't work for me : the instructions remain when i press the today button but are cut as soon as i lock the device with a long press on the bottom right button or with the on/off button at the top of the device
Will give a try to gyrator
works perfectly with gyrator2 !
Thanks a lot
Gyrator
Only problem is with gyrator is the device goes to sleep after a little while. I think it is because the unlock function is in the foreground. Tomtom is still active but sleeps after a little while.
Would be good is gyrator then made tomtom the foreground app again once locked.
Just go to the power options and untick the boxes !

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