Hi,
My phone suddenly developed a strange problem, the flash light always stays on, even if the camera is off, even if the phone is shut down using the power button. only if i remove the battery it lights off.
I think it looks like an electronics issue, but for safe side i have flashed another ROM but the problem continues.
Any Ideas?
Cheers
nidash said:
Hi,
My phone suddenly developed a strange problem, the flash light always stays on, even if the camera is off, even if the phone is shut down using the power button. only if i remove the battery it lights off.
I think it looks like an electronics issue, but for safe side i have flashed another ROM but the problem continues.
Any Ideas?
Cheers
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Sounds like a real battery drainer... Have you ever gotten the phone wet or dropped pretty hard?
Have you tried a hard reset? Nevermind... You flashed another rom, pretty much the same thing.
Hmmm. Try flashing back to your carriers latest rom and then back to the custom one you are using and see if that helps.
I too had this problem on one of my wizards. It is the camera flash board itself that is bad, not the main motherboard. I simply removed my flash, it was useless anyways. But now I know if I want to fix it I need to find a broken wizard and harvest its flash board. I was able to test this by putting a known working flash into the phone that was previously giving me problems and it work flawlessly.
To remove the flash:
1. Take off back battery cover.
2. Using a small flathead screwdriver carefully pry off the camera cover, it just clips into place.
3. Carefully pry up black housing around camera flash and camera lens.
4. Remove flash board from black housing.
5. Put it all back together.
Jeff
Of course, I am not responsible for whatever you do to your phone.
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all was ok till yesterday.. sudendly... the camera mode is showing green bars.. vertical or horizontal.. what can be the problem.. i tried softreset..
Sounds like faulty hardware but backup your data and try a hard reset first of all.
I had the same problem. Turning the phone off (although not intentionally -- I was switching SIMs so that I had to remove the battery) and back on solved the problem.
i had the same problem
I still have the same problem... I took the phone to be fixed under warranty for 4 times... they changed the camera modules twice.. and the last time they changed the whole board.. still..same problem!
now it turns out that if I give the camera a couple of hits on the table when it is showing green bars, it goes back to normal... but that's no solution...
any ideas ?!?!
I Have the same problem with my JasJam, did get hold of a Dopod main board and fixed the problem. The Camera inside the JasJam, ( had it replaced 3 times too, ) doesn't have any padding on the connector like the Dopod does. However i suspect the Camera ROM may be corrup if anyone has a copy of a new ROM for the camera i would be more than happy to change the JASJAM board back in and give it a go as i cannot access Teltras Buisness Portal and Foxtell with the Dopod IMEI. The required software wont install without the linked Imate IMEI
Sounds like the camera needs to be plugged back in to the mainboard. It may not be pushed in properly causing your problems.
Use the HTC Service Manual to take apart what you need, You will need to remove the battery and back cover, and then fix it. You can test by fixing the battery in place and testing before you replace the back cover (I use a hair band to hold the battery in place).
Cheers...
ultramag69 said:
Sounds like the camera needs to be plugged back in to the mainboard. It may not be pushed in properly causing your problems.
Use the HTC Service Manual to take apart what you need, You will need to remove the battery and back cover, and then fix it. You can test by fixing the battery in place and testing before you replace the back cover (I use a hair band to hold the battery in place).
Cheers...
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Yeah, definatly the cause in the Imate, the Dopod camera has a small amount of padding so it can't Knock out, but with frequent fiddling i think i allso corrupted my ROM...I'm a silly bugger the camera seems to operat off a CMOS oh well... will have to find a workaround for the Dopod board then
Corrupted ROM shouldn't matter if you have Hard SPL installed. Use sd card method to reflash a rom you like.
Cheers...
My flash is keep on or sometimes flashing. I don't know how to turn it off..when I take the battery out, it will off, but once I put the battery back, the light is on..
Anyone can help me? Thanks
Camera Flash on all time
I am facing the same problem... the flash keeps flickering n does not switch off.
It only switches off when turned on/off using the camera. Still after some time it switches on again...
I was told on on forum that it is a hardware problem. I am considering opening it and breaking the flash LED so it is gone
In any case the flash is quite useless as it does not make much difference to the quality of the picture :|
I had this problem as well. I called warranty service and they replaced my device
same here flashlight flashing like a disco
even when the device is off, and this is lame, any solutions?? seems only 1 of the 3 leds does that. please anyone can guide us on this? its a wizard
I too had this problem on one of my wizards. It is the camera flash board itself that is bad, not the main motherboard. I simply removed my flash, it was useless anyways. But now I know if I want to fix it I need to find a broken wizard and harvest its flash board. I was able to test this by putting a known working flash into the phone that was previously giving me problems and it work flawlessly.
To remove the flash:
1. Take off back battery cover.
2. Using a small flathead screwdriver carefully pry off the camera cover, it just clips into place.
3. Carefully pry up black housing around camera flash and camera lens.
4. Remove flash board from black housing.
5. Put it all back together.
Jeff
Of course, I am not responsible for whatever you do to your phone.
Hi,
My S100 keeps hard reseting. It was working ok, until last week. Since then, it has hard reset 3 times now.
It happens randomly. I've formatted the SD card as well, in case the issue was card related. I don't know what to do...
R 1.12.00
G 1337.42
D 1.12.120 WWE
Could it have anything to do with my backup battery?
I've noticed that I have no issues if it's connected to the power, but if my battery gets to half capacity, it's when my problems begin...
ALL help is welcome....
Hi got same problem ...unfortunately while using tomtom so i lose myself somewhere in between Austria,Switzerland and Germany....
so it reset many times even while phisically resetted...it didn't start any more for 10 min and then it starts properly...and again and again.....
noticed low internal battery....will change it (if i found the user manual) and i'll let You know the progress...
....small reply...i check in the User Manual but no idea on how to change and which is the internal backup battery....any suggestion ? ? ?...pls ?
up.........thnks
uh...well i have the same problem and i know why it happens...
It's just that the back cover has a small plastic notch at the bottom right side which must touch and push a small switch located at the bottom right (the switch is located just above the red plastic thing).
Since my back cover has a side plastic notch that is broken, sometimes the back cover gets a little bit loose, forcing the bottom switch notch to release that switch which in turn forces the ppc to sometimes reboot/hard reset.
Check if your back cover is Okey.
Keeper
Keeper said:
uh...well i have the same problem and i know why it happens...
It's just that the back cover has a small plastic notch at the bottom right side which must touch and push a small switch located at the bottom right (the switch is located just above the red plastic thing).
Since my back cover has a side plastic notch that is broken, sometimes the back cover gets a little bit loose, forcing the bottom switch notch to release that switch which in turn forces the ppc to sometimes reboot/hard reset.
Check if your back cover is Okey.
Keeper
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WOAH...got it....(i'll keep testing tomorrw while running somewhere in France....) is enough to force it with a ...."piece-of-something" placed there in case? or there are some other indications on "how to"??.....
say thanks anyway is always not enought......
yes...you can use whatever you like...(you can even glue it)
Honestely i don't know what was HTCs ideia of putting that dumb switch in there...
Regards,
Keeper
Yeah, that switch is pretty dumb and a waste of money. None of my newer HTC phones have that switch. I guess in more recent phones they realized it was a waste.
The switch was there for a good reason
Hi! The switch is there to turn off the phone when you open the battery cover. Remember, WM 2003 is based on volatile memory, so if the power goes out, all of your data gets deleted and the OS has to reload from flash rom. Anyway, to my understanding the switch has to do with not using the backup battery without the actual battery in there as the backup battery is strong enough to power the volatile memory but not the entire device. The solution I chose for my device is a piece of clear plastic tape running along the crack between the battery door and the camera housing. I attached the tape to the sides as well, and made sure to use the stylus to push the tape down between the grooves on the sides. Otherwise dust would get in right away and weaken the bond blah blah blah.
Summary: Tape on the battery cover, the switch was a good thing. All devices since MDA Compact run WM5, which is non-volatile memory based and is always stored no matter what.
Hi guys,
At first I decided to open up my Magician, to look for that "backup" battery.
Didn't find any.
Turns out, my hard reset problem is caused by my phone battery. The regular battery is wasted. So wasted that the phone cant hold the backup. I found it weird that the phone wouldn't hard reset if was kept on power. As soon as i unplugged it, it went bye bye.
I managed to test it with a battery from a friend, and as soon as he used my battery on his phone, the backup warning come up.
I don't wanna say that, in some cases, the back lid won't cause this problem.
In my case, thankfully I managed to sort out where the problem was.
Thanks!
It keeps hard resetting
Hi Guys,
i've tried all the above written tips and tricks; but, my magician still have the same problem, every time i removes my battery it goes hard reset and again i've to start from the scratch - align screen - then it installs the applications again and back to the square one.
previously it was ok and after a year and half of using it started going soft reset now and then itself - i gave it to a local services center, they said that it has a loose contact to the battery that's why it gets soft reset, so i got my battery connector replaced. it solved the soft reset problem, but now the bigger problem has come up - it goes hard reset every time i remove my battery.
one thing i've noticed - it never hard resets when i keep it connected with my charger or usb cable
any one has any idea why its happening...
well i would suggest that your backup battery is dead...
Keeper
that i've checked keeper it always shows 100%.
and all the time since i bought this i've never seen that thing moving from 100%,
ok just tell me is it possible to replace the backup battery?
Well, i doubt it...all this stuff is really small...honestely i don't even know where is the backup located at, in the pcb... (photo of the pcb is in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/naked-magician-insane.jpg)
I would suggest that you should go to a repair center and ask them for a repair cost budget...that way you'll be informed what exactly is wrong with your pda...
Keeper
webshocker, if you want to try and replace your backup battery, check the photo in attachment that i've made...
It seems that it ain't that hard to replace it...
Regards,
Keeper
Received the phone with the moisture indicator red. Phone wouldn't turn on, but the camera light stayed on as long as the battery was installed. I dissasembled the unit and scrubbed the motherboard with alcohol, dried it and reassembled it. Still would not turn on, but the camera light came on. I tried to turn it on in Bootloader mode and Viola it turned on in Bootloader. I then flashed T-Mobile ROM and now everything works fine, except the camera light is still on. The camera works fine. All functions of the phone work fine, except the camera light won't turn off. Must be a hardware problem. Phone is a G3 MDA. Any suggestions?
The flash module is bad. As far as I know you can't fix that module, just replace it. What I did to one of my wizards was to just remove the flash module as the flash is more than just worthless. I did swap in a working flash and all was working again. If you were able to dismantle the phone, just pay attention and removing the flash module is very simply. You only need to take the camera cover off I believe and then gently pry it out.
Jeff
jeffla said:
The flash module is bad. As far as I know you can't fix that module, just replace it. What I did to one of my wizards was to just remove the flash module as the flash is more than just worthless. I did swap in a working flash and all was working again. If you were able to dismantle the phone, just pay attention and removing the flash module is very simply. You only need to take the camera cover off I believe and then gently pry it out.
Jeff
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I guess I don't understand how the flash module works. Seems to me the light will be on as long as it getting power from the motherboard. I swapped out the flash module with another MDA. Light is still on all the time. I have either got two bad flash modules or the motherboard is putting power to the flash module continuously. I would think the power to the flash module would come from a capacitance discharge circuit that is triggered by the camera switch. I'm guessing that that capaciter has gone bad, allowing power to flow continuously to the flash module. Just a guess. I'll leave the flash module out, insulate the power connectors.
Well it looks like your problem is different than mine. I don't know why swapping modules out worked for me. I assumed the phone supplies power and the light turns on. But in my case, I had three flash modules and three wizards. And only 1 of them when put in the phone would always be on when the phone had power. The other two worked perfectly. If I put the bad flash module in the other two wizards and it would stay on. So I concluded that the module was bad and the cause of the problem and not the phone/motherboard. But again, our problems must be different.
Jeff
Hello everyone! I have problem with my phone because sometimes is turning off without any reason, I bought brand new battery and is still same when is switched off and I want to put it back on i must take off battery for couple of minutes, then put battery back and then switch on anybody know whats happened?? And how to fix it!!
It's the most standard problem with htc models touch and elf...
This problem is hardware based! in this condition there are only 2 things you can do:
1.send the device to a htc service center and get the motherboard changed for $300+ if you are out of warranty.
2.Or open the mobile and put a piece of thin plastic in between the omap prosessor chip and the steel piece tha goes over it and then put the second cover on top in order to apply pressure to it because the solder pins that are in between the cpu and the mobo are not connecting properly and lose contact so the phone goes off or freezes then goes off and some times stays off. Make sure that there is enough but not to much pressure applied to it! it worked for mine but i did it because it was out of warranty... its a temporary fix but if you are gentile to it after it will surely work for a few more months...
IF YOU HAVE NEVER DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE OR YOUR TOUCH/ELF IS STILL IN WARRANTY DO NOT TRY IT!
I will post a pic that i took when i did mine if anyone is interested... Let me know...
Thanks for reply!
Uff.... first way to fix it is a little bit too expensive! And 2 way to do it seems quite easy, so i try to do it this way Could you add any picture of this and just tell me how to open this phone?
Many thanks!
@Firestarter42
Thanks man!!!!
did what you said, the plastic trik, and the phone is back to life (it was totally dead and didn't charge) you save a life today!!!
I had the same problem untill one day when he didn`t want to turn on and now i do not know what to do with it how to make it work again
Dear Sir,
I have just tried method 2.
My elf didnt have a metal cover on the processor, lol... got it used from someone... or should I say abused? lol
anyway, I hope it works. will update...
here's a link for the demonstrated tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476152
Thanks a lot again.
I haved the same problem.....and i realize after many times that I didn't change my ipl and uspl!!!so my cocked rom frequentely turn off my device!!!now it's all right!!!!!!!
i had the same problm too....
it kept turning off and just a few weeks ago it would never turn on...
i did try that trick of keeping the plastic thingy on the omap processor ... it worked for a few weeks max after tht it happened as above
finally took my phone to htc.. told them it was gift and i dont have the invoice... actually purchased frm ebay for 150$ .....
they checked it was in warranty,.. they replaced the board... hurray... my elfin is alive again.. and in wm6.1
hope htc fixes this crap issue as many face this problem
My HTC elf was freezing, rbooting and so on, i was thinking that it was a windows/flash/third party programs problems ....
BUT I confirm that the method "open the mobile and put a piece of thin plastic in between the omap prosessor chip and the steel piece tha goes over it"
brings my htc elf to life again ... stable !
(i've done it with a metal piece and not plastic.)
Thanks for the advice !!!!
my elf was freezing and turning off so i try this 2. method and it works, and elf is much faster then before in my case...
I've never had this problem before but this week my phone switched itself off (so had to boot up again) a couple of times. I did try a new custom rom but I've also been using a different charger (USB mains adaptor) and a replacement battery (this seems to be a poor replacement battery which seems to make up the battery level.
So I don't know what was causing it. For some reason, removing the SD card and re-inserting it seems to have done the trick for now but I'll keep watching it.
Hi guys
My phone is, usually at night when there is no use, switching the screen off, the earphone green indicator flashes but the phone will not turn on when I press the power button, I have to do a soft reset each time to get it back on again (even though it appears to be on with the flashing green light). I cannot get calls or text and my alarm fails to sound. Have overslept a few times now!. Also, its battery has gone for a ball of ^&*%. Will this trick help? Thanks a lot!
Turn off as in literally 'poof!' or, it will restart?
The only way to get it to restart is to do a soft reset, or remove and replace the battery. The phone's green light will flash but there is no way to the screen to activate or use the phone - make calls, use the alarm, receive etc. The screen stays black, no use trying the power button either...
Firestarter42 said:
It's the most standard problem with htc models touch and elf...
This problem is hardware based! in this condition there are only 2 things you can do:
1.send the device to a htc service center and get the motherboard changed for $300+ if you are out of warranty.
2.Or open the mobile and put a piece of thin plastic in between the omap prosessor chip and the steel piece tha goes over it and then put the second cover on top in order to apply pressure to it because the solder pins that are in between the cpu and the mobo are not connecting properly and lose contact so the phone goes off or freezes then goes off and some times stays off. Make sure that there is enough but not to much pressure applied to it! it worked for mine but i did it because it was out of warranty... its a temporary fix but if you are gentile to it after it will surely work for a few more months...
IF YOU HAVE NEVER DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE OR YOUR TOUCH/ELF IS STILL IN WARRANTY DO NOT TRY IT!
I will post a pic that i took when i did mine if anyone is interested... Let me know...
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Thankx your solutions worked out with my HTC Touch and i get replaced omap processor
power problem on Elf (not the usual)
hello guys, i have an Elf T-mobile that someone "lost" i found it, but was bricked...i unbricked following the awesome guides on the forum and installed on it the original italian rom (obviously am not german)
but...here's the problem, when i press the power button (should get it into stand by mode like every pda does) or also when goes on stand by itself, just shuts down !!!
then the pda auto soft resets, until the end...doesn't have the "auto power off problem" like i readed on the forums...however it tried but didn't solve the problem
i think is a problem with the radio, or the IPL or SPL (i tried 1.11.0002 IPL and 1.11.000 SPL...then 2.2x.xxxx IPL and SPL...now i tried 3.14.0002 IPL and 3.14.0000 SPL, also tried different radios...
but the problem remains...
EDIT: Problem solved, changed the little battery in the motherborad, it worked for me
help
Firestarter42 said:
It's the most standard problem with htc models touch and elf...
This problem is hardware based! in this condition there are only 2 things you can do:
1.send the device to a htc service center and get the motherboard changed for $300+ if you are out of warranty.
2.Or open the mobile and put a piece of thin plastic in between the omap prosessor chip and the steel piece tha goes over it and then put the second cover on top in order to apply pressure to it because the solder pins that are in between the cpu and the mobo are not connecting properly and lose contact so the phone goes off or freezes then goes off and some times stays off. Make sure that there is enough but not to much pressure applied to it! it worked for mine but i did it because it was out of warranty... its a temporary fix but if you are gentile to it after it will surely work for a few more months...
IF YOU HAVE NEVER DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE OR YOUR TOUCH/ELF IS STILL IN WARRANTY DO NOT TRY IT!
I will post a pic that i took when i did mine if anyone is interested... Let me know...
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can any one provide some sought of tutorial for this please
thanks
ishaan_chd88 said:
can any one provide some sought of tutorial for this please
thanks
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I'm presuming you mean for option 2, as 1 is quite obvious
Anyways, I haven't done this, but I am posting my best guess (untried, untested, just a theory).
Open your phone up and completely dissamble as described here. Completely strip it down so you only have your mainboard. Clearly take all the necessary precautions before hand (backup, etc etc.)
When done, you will see there are blank shields above where the chips will be, if you look, you can see little dimples, you can ease these off here. This will get you into where the omap processor is. You can then put the plastic on top, and make sure it is done as described. Should literally be a case of putting it all together and hoping for the best after that. I will have a look at some point (can't promise when) and see if I can take some photos of where this will go etc.
An alternative would be to try and reflow the joints of solder with a heat gun... very dangerous considering how tight the components are packed in, and overkill.
captainstu72 said:
I'm presuming you mean for option 2, as 1 is quite obvious
Anyways, I haven't done this, but I am posting my best guess (untried, untested, just a theory).
Open your phone up and completely dissamble as described here. Completely strip it down so you only have your mainboard. Clearly take all the necessary precautions before hand (backup, etc etc.)
When done, you will see there are blank shields above where the chips will be, if you look, you can see little dimples, you can ease these off here. This will get you into where the omap processor is. You can then put the plastic on top, and make sure it is done as described. Should literally be a case of putting it all together and hoping for the best after that. I will have a look at some point (can't promise when) and see if I can take some photos of where this will go etc.
An alternative would be to try and reflow the joints of solder with a heat gun... very dangerous considering how tight the components are packed in, and overkill.
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thanks man but i guess am so dumb that am not getting where is this processor located anyways currently my phone is working fine but in few days I'll get the tools & open it...let see than
if you can arrange any pic of processor(where we have to fit plastic) it will be extremely helpful...
anyways thanks for helping
tc
where to get small battery on mother board