At last, O2 have joined the civilised world (maybe as a result of sustained lobbying by members of various forums such a this) and has launched an "unlimited" bolt-on browsing package!
This supplements the inclusive data allowances already forming part of O2 tariffs, namely:
512kb for high-street Tariffs (100kb if inclusive munites are less than 600 pcm), and
1Mb for online Tariffs,
In addition, a package is available for use with data cards.
Ok - to the "unlimited" data bolt-on...which O2 have dubbed "O2 Web" - the data card option is known as "O2 Max".
So, why the quotes surrounding 'unlimited'? Well, it's not actually unlimited....a fair use policy of 200Mb applies, only time will tell whether this will be sufficient, but it's hardly unlimited. I've read posts by Orbit users stating that 20Mb per day is not unusual, this would take people past 600Mb per month, so this allowance looks somewhat stingy in that case.
The good news:
- at £7.50 per month this is better news for O2 customers,
The bad news:
- 200Mb still is not competitive (when compared to, say, T-Mobile web'n'walk, which has a 1Gb Fair Use limit),
- "O2 Web" is available only to 'April 2007 or later' Tariff customers. Everybody else is warned that a Tariff change may be required.
Further details are to be found at http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/tariffs/consumerdatabolton.
As a pre-April 2007 O2 Customer myself, I'm going to give Customer Services a call and "see what I can do"...
Obviously this is for the iPhone, the total cost (including full term line rental and purchase price) of which btw will be £900, which is insane. £900 for a mobile phone that doesn't even have 3G or let you install any software applications on it, lol!
All I can say is thank god for T-Mobile
I use between 200 and 600MB of data per month, mostly from remote desktop (terminal services) sessions to my home PC from work, with my phone (HTC Universal) acting as a 3G modem
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That is way below the 1GB+ that T-Mobile allow on my WnW PRO plan.
This move from O2 is a lot better than Orange, and definitely better than nothing, but nowhere near as good as T-Mobile. 200MB is quite pathetic in this day and age. But with O2's crappy network, you'll be lucky if you can manage even 10MB in a month <G>
sl9 said:
Obviously this is for the iPhone, the total cost (including full term line rental and purchase price) of which btw will be £900, which is insane. £900 for a mobile phone that doesn't even have 3G or let you install any software applications on it, lol!
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Actually, no. iPhone users get a "special" contract which prompted many customers (myself included) to barrack O2 about how they were going to translate this 'unlimited' provision to existing non-iPhone customers. The "O2 Web" package is a bolt-on to existing voice/text Tariffs.
sl9 said:
All I can say is thank god for T-Mobile
I use between 200 and 600MB of data per month, mostly from remote desktop (terminal services) sessions to my home PC from work, with my phone (HTC Universal) acting as a 3G modem
That is way below the 1GB+ that T-Mobile allow on my WnW PRO plan.
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Yeah, 200Mb looks paltry by comparison, hopefully they'll see the light at some point when customers continue to drift away.
sl9 said:
This move from O2 is a lot better than Orange, and definitely better than nothing, but nowhere near as good as T-Mobile. 200MB is quite pathetic in this day and age. But with O2's crappy network, you'll be lucky if you can manage even 10MB in a month <G>
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Already done 10Mb in a month - paid for it too! I don't use the same volumes as you, but I for one am relatively happy at this development.
I just called O2 about applying this to my account (currently i have the 5mb bolt on which costs £4). However they cant apply this to my tarrif as I have an old tarrif
The thing is I dont want to switch tarriffs as none of their current tarrifs come any where near my exisiting tarrif. Did you have any luck apllying the bolt on to your 'old tariff' ?
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I just called O2 about applying this to my account (currently i have the 5mb bolt on which costs £4). However they cant apply this to my tarrif as I have an old tarrif
The thing is I dont want to switch tarriffs as none of their current tarrifs come any where near my exisiting tarrif. Did you have any luck apllying the bolt on to your 'old tariff' ?
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Yes. Absolutely. The nice young lady transferred my "old" Tariff to the (identical) "new" Tariff - without re-starting my contract - and is then exchanging my 4Mb bolt-on for the 'unlimited' bolt-on. She's ringing me back in the next 72 hours to confirm that the changes have been applied.
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Yes. Absolutely. The nice young lady transferred my "old" Tariff to the (identical) "new" Tariff - without re-starting my contract - and is then exchanging my 4Mb bolt-on for the 'unlimited' bolt-on. She's ringing me back in the next 72 hours to confirm that the changes have been applied.
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the problem I have is there is no 'new equivelent', at the mo I get...
1000 mins
150 texts
1 mb browsing
all for £35 per month, WITH A £15 monthly discount, so the whole shabang costs me £20 per month!!!!!
and right now I pay £5 per month for the data bolt on. O2 have been trying to get me off this tarrif for years.
s4vva said:
the problem I have is there is no 'new equivelent', at the mo I get...
1000 mins
150 texts
1 mb browsing
all for £35 per month, WITH A £15 monthly discount, so the whole shabang costs me £20 per month!!!!!
and right now I pay £5 per month for the data bolt on. O2 have been trying to get me off this tarrif for years.
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Ah. That could be your problem then. No wonder they won't touch it...
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Ah. That could be your problem then. No wonder they won't touch it...
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yeah I know, it is a great tarrif, dont know how much longer they will let me hang on to it
has anyone gone over this 200 mb limit, what happens? do you get charged or do they stop any data after this limit.
i would totally subscribe if o2's gprs was even half decent. i cant update any weather applications/windows live due to the http problems, i can just about browse the web (slowly) if i enter wsp:// before every site i want to access.
whats up with that?
O2 GPRS
Actually I get a decent GPRS connection at home and EDGE (yes I know its no were near HSDPA speeds) in London. I've been able to get mail through MS Exchange and browse web at decent speeds on opera mobile - bbc news only takes a few seconds to load with all the pics and flash, etc!. Although i totally agree, I've only been using it for a week or so and the only reason I'm not over the limit already is because I try and connect over wifi where possible. I reckon in this day and age they should have edge as a minimum everywhere and 1gb or 2gb minimum...my monthly email (without images, just text) goes over 200mb, loll. Isnt web'n'walk only available for contact customers? I heard that vodafone don't charge you over a pound for upto 15MB usage, but there was a way to get around that so it would end up being £1 for 2 weeks or something, but you have to reset some setting daily :s
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has anyone gone over this 200 mb limit, what happens? do you get charged or do they stop any data after this limit.
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Didn't realised about the fair usage policy and downloaded a file more than 300Mb. Received a call from o2 next day and got warning letter in few days later.
O2 didn't say that there's a fair usage policy in their web on "unlimited" when i signed a new contract with them.
hey i got actual unlimited data on o2!!! i was monitoring my data because i wasnt hitting a limit or getting a message from o2. apparently when the guy unblocked something at customer service he removed the 200mb thing on my a/c
Better not be 200MB, I decided to go with O2 on the basis theirs was unlimited, looking in the T&c of the bolt on theres no mention of a 200MB limit and I was assured that it was infact unlimited as long as you don't try and use it for a modem. (which is fair enough)
I could have gone with Vodafone and got pretty much the same amount of minutes and texts with 500mb of browsing for the same money but I didn't want to risk getting a large bill if I went over.
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Anyone hurd about it? Or no what it is? If its 50$ a month for everything unlimited then I am deff going to stay with tmobile. My bill is 105$ for my g1 and that's only 600 anytime mins with unlimited data pack. If that's the case this is really going to be cool!
I hope so. I pay over $180 for my Dream and my girls Sidekick.
I think its going to be something like that, i haven't seen anything announcing an exact price yet but I've seen the documentation that makes it appear this is the idea of it. Should be cool. I don't know how you guys are paying over $100 though unless you got some crazy family plan, I have 1000 anytime, unlimited nights and weekends plus G1 plan and my bill doesnt come to $80 for my G1, my MyTouch is on my dealer line so that's only $20 =)
What's project black?
Not to be an asshole or anything, but I pay $110 for my girlfriend and my Palm Pre's (which we will soon be getting Hero's).
1500 minutes shared, unlimited mobile to mobile, data and text. Plus ~1.5mbps download speeds all over Des Moines.
T-Mobile had horrible coverage and speed out here so I switched, and love Sprint. This is for people on the edge about thinking if they want Sprint or not.
I give you 6 months tops before your kicking yourself for using sprint, have fun paying when your bill gets higher and higher with no explaination.
I have ulimited mins, data, free roaming, messaging for 110 but almost twenty of it is taxes, thank obama for the tax hike. it used to be under 100. I'm on a customer loyalty plan since I been with tmo since '03
50 a month is better than my 89 a month though, ill have to check this out.
phatmanxxl said:
I give you 6 months tops before your kicking yourself for using sprint, have fun paying when your bill gets higher and higher with no explaination.
I have ulimited mins, data, free roaming, messaging for 110 but almost twenty of it is taxes, thank obama for the tax hike. it used to be under 100. I'm on a customer loyalty plan since I been with tmo since '03
50 a month is better than my 89 a month though, ill have to check this out.
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Been with Sprint 2 years, and quite the opposite happened. From $150 before, now to $110. In a sense, unlimited minutes as well, i've used 25 minutes of my 1500 due to the new unlimited mobile-mobile.
been with tmob for 7 years now... paying right at 60 for unlimited data/sms/mms/1600 minutes/free nights n weekends.
Hmm seems to me that t-mobile is scamming me then lol. A lot of it has to deal with taxes which sux but its what ever. I changed my plan so its 10$ cheaper lmao. Sux because where I work they had to cut hours big time so now I don't have enough cash to pay my bill so I'm gonna probrally get a late charge. I really hope that project black is what I think because its going to save me a lot of money.
lol not to be a ***** but... Not only did I get a FREE G1 but my plan is only £35 ($57) a month, one of the most expensive UK tarrrifs with 800 Minutes, Unlimited Texts and Unlimited Internet. 3G Is pretty much standard in the UK, I don't have HSDPA yet though... unsure weather the G1 supports it =/
brummiesteven said:
lol not to be a ***** but... Not only did I get a FREE G1 but my plan is only £35 ($57) a month, one of the most expensive UK tarrrifs with 800 Minutes, Unlimited Texts and Unlimited Internet. 3G Is pretty much standard in the UK, I don't have HSDPA yet though... unsure weather the G1 supports it =/
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Wow. thats a good deal.
Ihave been on EVERY netowork there is in the USA in the past 13 years.
By a FAAAAAAAAR margin, Tmobile is the best I have had. 3mb download/500kb upload anywhere I go, Never 1 dropped call, never an overage....
Sprint, verizon.... I would sometimes get no signal at all. ATT/cingular.... what a joke lol
My bill is $67 a month. I have G1 data/text plan, 300 anytime (i hate talking on the phone. despise it) unlimited night,weekends and my faves. Considering I hate talking on the phone, and when I do I only talk to a few people, the my faves thing saves all my minutes lol.
Woah! You guys pay way too much for your mobiles!
As said before in the UK I pay £30 a month (48 usd) with a free G1 and with £140 of allowance (220 usd) a month to spend on any mix of mins/txts/pic messages and unlimited data (good UMTS/HSDPA where I live too).
How come it is so expensive over there for mobile phone tariffs?!
philje123 said:
Woah! You guys pay way too much for your mobiles!
As said before in the UK I pay £30 a month (48 usd) with a free G1 and with £140 of allowance (220 usd) a month to spend on any mix of mins/txts/pic messages and unlimited data (good UMTS/HSDPA where I live too).
How come it is so expensive over there for mobile phone tariffs?!
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that's the trend of the US market, for a while now.
Competition for products and commodities raise prices for everyone. Some people think that all 4 major carriers somewhat conspire to keep prices high, but relatively the same on all carrier to milk us customers for all our money.
Is there some kind of middle body to regulate prices? We have Ofcom here and they keep all the telecoms companies in check.
There has recently been a big thing over here with Ofcom saying that we pay too much for our phone services and the mobile networks seem pretty competitive with each other and always driving each others prices down and mobile deals up.
There are some real deals to be had still here with mobiles. My partner is only paying £20 a month for a free Nokia E71 with 200 mins, unlimited txts and unlimited internet which is dirt cheap really!
Phil
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lol not to be a ***** but... Not only did I get a FREE G1 but my plan is only £35 ($57) a month, one of the most expensive UK tarrrifs with 800 Minutes, Unlimited Texts and Unlimited Internet. 3G Is pretty much standard in the UK, I don't have HSDPA yet though... unsure weather the G1 supports it =/
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the prices of tmobile UK certainly does sound good...but! what you get for some things kinda blow.
if you really look at the fine print... tmobile UK unlimited data for android actually has a data cap of 3gb per month
while the data for tmobile US for android has 10gb cap per month.
i can easily use up that 3gb.
with all the browsing, radio streaming, downloading I do from my phone, I can easily blow through 3 or more gigs in a day. thank god for unlimited data
there are other smaller carriers who are cheaper than the big dogs. criket, boost, metro pcs to name a few
I know criket has an unlimited voice and text for $45 (tax included) a month, only thing is they use kyocera, lg and moto. just ugly cheap phones, no good smartphones, but you can flash other cdma smarphones to use on criket. I heard the process is a pain though.
How can anyone pay over $100/month for a single line? My bill is $185/month, and that's with 5 lines on the family plan, 700min shared anytime, unlimited text on all 5 lines, and 2 lines on it have unlimited data.
brian_v3ntura said:
the prices of tmobile UK certainly does sound good...but! what you get for some things kinda blow.
if you really look at the fine print... tmobile UK unlimited data for android actually has a data cap of 3gb per month
while the data for tmobile US for android has 10gb cap per month.
i can easily use up that 3gb.
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They don't do anything if you go over 3GB. Its a "Fair Usage Policy". If you were maxing it out and affecting other users (if that's even possible) then they start moaning and try and get you to pay another £5 for the 10GB fair usage policy but in effect they can't actually do anything, they can't cut you off or charge you extra, just ask you to cut down or upgrade (which of course the average customer would feel like they are obliged to).
@phillje123 : Our contracts used to be like the American scheme, fortunately in the early 00's Pay As You Go (Prepay, whatever you want to call it) hit the UK and Europe big time and everyone was purchasing payg phones instead of contracts. This forced the phone companies to dish out free phones and a load of minutes/texts to try and get people to go back to their contract.
phatmanxxl said:
with all the browsing, radio streaming, downloading I do from my phone, I can easily blow through 3 or more gigs in a day. thank god for unlimited data
there are other smaller carriers who are cheaper than the big dogs. criket, boost, metro pcs to name a few
I know criket has an unlimited voice and text for $45 (tax included) a month, only thing is they use kyocera, lg and moto. just ugly cheap phones, no good smartphones, but you can flash other cdma smarphones to use on criket. I heard the process is a pain though.
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like i said....nothing is unlimited.
tmobile US still has their android phones capped off at 10gigs
Blarg, I'd be happy to take American prices. Instead in Canada we get it the worse.
$30 for data, if you're lucky you got it during the 6gig promo deal, if not you get 1gig of data for $30 a month.
Cheapest voice plan is $17.50 which gives you 150 minutes but that is the EPP plan, cheapest advertised plan is $25 a month.
We all get charge S.A.F. 6.95 and 911 $0.50 fee on top of all of our plans.
There is no such thing as free long distance.
We pay for incoming and outgoing minutes
Call display and voice mail are not included in our plans and are $12 extra.
If you're lucky enough you can all retentions and for $65 cdn get, 250 minutes, unlimited after 6pm calling, 100 LD minutes, 1(or 6 if promo is running) gig of data, voice mail, call display, saf/911 fee and unlimited text.
Then our overages on data are: First 60MB overage is $0.50, then remaining overages drop to $0.03 per megabyte. So for the first GB over it'll be a charge of $58.20 to a max of $500.
Oh did I mention all of your phones come with 3 year contracts?
If you're not lucky enough to get in while teh 6gig promo is on, this is what you can expect to pay.
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Just got my T-Mobile bill, WOO!!!
(Happy for a bill? Yes this is madness! )
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Unlimited minutes, unlimited data, unlimited texts for $58.90 / month. MAN I LOVE ANDROID AND TMOBILE!
Where do you work? Discounts?
AAA Discount
Available to all AAA members as far as I know. Just call up T-Mobile and ask about it and boom!
What percent? and by any chance does anyone happen to know the discount for intel? Im gonna have that sooon
_-..zKiLLA..-_ said:
What percent? and by any chance does anyone happen to know the discount for intel? Im gonna have that sooon
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http://www.web.aaasne.com/sne/wireless/index.php
(Ignore the New England thing. I'm in California. Just did a quick Google for details page.)
And grats on Intel!
Paul22000 said:
AAA Discount
Available to all AAA members as far as I know. Just call up T-Mobile and ask about it and boom!
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As a AAA member for 11 years I just called them regarding this - the discount is on plan add-ons. So for my EMP plus plan it doesn't apply as insurance is my only add on and it doesn't apply to insurance. But, if you have a standard voice plan with a text and data add on it would apply to the text and data add-ons.
krohnjw said:
As a AAA member for 11 years I just called them regarding this - the discount is on plan add-ons. So for my EMP plus plan it doesn't apply as insurance is my only add on and it doesn't apply to insurance. But, if you have a standard voice plan with a text and data add on it would apply to the text and data add-ons.
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I'm not sure what you mean by addons but it should apply to any voice line that is on a contract. So the only restriction is that it doesn't work for Even More Plus plans =\
I just called TMO about this and they said I would have to renew my contracts for my line and my wife's line (Family plan) for two years. Not sure that's worth it for me.
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I'm not sure what you mean by addons but it should apply to any voice line that is on a contract. So the only restriction is that it doesn't work for Even More Plus plans =\
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Yeah - for my EMP plan it's only add-ons since the regular plan is already at a "discounted rate". For standard plans under a 2yr contract it should work assuming they aren't already at a discounted rate (as explained by t-mo).
I think I win.
It's "only" 2000 minutes, but I still think I win.
Unlimited Family Messaging for $9.99. I win. =)
superGOAT said:
I think I win.
It's "only" 2000 minutes, but I still think I win.
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Does that include a data plan?
superGOAT said:
I think I win.
It's "only" 2000 minutes, but I still think I win.
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lol I may work for the same company here's mine but AT&T because I have no T-mobile in my boondocks of vero beach besides 0 bars of edge
-Charlie
600 minutes, 1200 texts, unlimited data: 02 UK:
Probably not the winner but I am happy!
My tariffs - Online simplicity 20 : 09 Feb 10 - 08 Mar 10
17.02
My monthly extras 0.00
What I've used
* Calls
* 0.00
* Messages
* 0.00
* Mobile internet browsing and downloads
* 0.00
Discounts -5.11
Total before VAT 11.91
VAT 2.08
Total new charges 13.99
Total amount due
£13.99
The AAA plan will work for addon's I pay 19.99 for unlimited data and $4.99 unlimited text. I would get 14% off $25.
My calling plan is already too low($49.99 unlimited calling), so the discount won't apply. No 2 yr contract extension since the discount only applies to data and text(other addon)
The number to call is 1-877 453-8824 Premier Discount Migration Department
oklahomatulsa said:
The AAA plan will work for addon's I pay 19.99 for unlimited data and $4.99 unlimited text. I would get 14% off $25......
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Then the discount for EMP plan will be $5 total.
my bill came for 101.12 for 2 months of service
@dahui9 how in the hell did you get such a cheao bill with data?
Any secrets on how to save?
Having att & tmobile is killing me with like 200 + on 2 cell phones.
Wife have the iphone i have the n1
GNOve said:
my bill came for 101.12 for 2 months of service
@dahui9 how in the hell did you get such a cheao bill with data?
Any secrets on how to save?
Having att & tmobile is killing me with like 200 + on 2 cell phones.
Wife have the iphone i have the n1
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Wow...I pay $161/mo for 4 people. 1800 minutes/Unlimited Messaging/Fave 5 [no longer offered]/Two data plans/all phones have insurance. My mother and father-in-law pay me $40/mo each so my wife and myself pay around $80 for our phone service. She has a MyTouch and I have my N1.
I also might mention that I have unlimited messaging for families for $9.99/mo . This usually costs $35/mo. I got it on a promo about 4 years ago.
I just callled and got my AAA discount for my 1000 minute plan, Unlimited text, data, caller tunes, and insurance, 14% off and your bill changes to the 27th.
It can take up to sixty days for the discount to show on you bill.
I have a co-worker that ordered two droids via the Verizon website and he only paid 106 dollars after tax. He took ad vantage of a buy one get one free deal. Buts whats interesting is that they gave him an additional hundred dollars off the price for no known reason. A Total price of 106 and he got two excellent phones.
Seriously.
So, yesterday around noon, I noticed that I didn't have a data connection. I checked my account on a desktop - all's good, don't owe 'em any dough. I call 'em up, expecting a network outage, or something similar.
"We're going to have to transfer you to our high balance department."... Um, Ok.
First person I talk to, figure out the situation fairly quickly; I've used 81GB in the last month, and despite being on the 25$ / month unlimited data plan, the system has freaked out and wants to charge me for it all - sort of. It's listed on my account as 'unbilled data charges'. Anyway, she re-enables my data plan, and will call me back when her supervisor is off the phone. She agrees with me that it's a bug, that my 25$ a month plan should cover it - it's unlimited, after all.
I call back about 3 hours later, and get a clueless guy. He basically tells me that he can't do anything, the ticket is already at a higher level than him, and that I should be getting a call tomorrow (that'd be today)... but goes on to discuss the issue with me anyway.
First, he tells me that he sees that I have 'unlimited web' - I say 'oh, heck no' - it's unlimited data; I'd never sign up for something called unlimited web. He agrees, but goes on to note that unlimited data doesn't cover 'downloading'. I ask him how he expects to view a web page without downloading data - oh, he didn't mean that, he means 'music and games'. Okay, how do they track that separately? He doesn't know - shocker, there. Whatever; I end the call.
This morning, I get a call from a somewhat more knowledgeable guy - admittedly, he opened the conversation by noting that I appeared to have excessive 'data roaming charges' - nope, never did any roaming - and that the useage in question was 'all last weekend' - I -wish- their network (or the Nexus!) could handle 80gb over a 48 hour period. We come to agree that this is basically a glitch in their system - they had to assign some max value somewhere to bytes used per month (there's no way programatically to say infinite, besides, warning bells when someone like me goes nuts with the bandwidth is probably useful to 'em), and I hit that limit, and the system couldn't figure out what to do billing-wise... Apparently, to clear the mess completely, they have to refer it up to some tech department, and I should hear back in ~ 72 hours or so.
So, long story shortened: 41,000$ is a scary number to hear over the phone, but 25$ unlimited data trumps 41,000$ billing glitch.
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Seriously.
So, yesterday around noon, I noticed that I didn't have a data connection. I checked my account on a desktop - all's good, don't owe 'em any dough. I call 'em up, expecting a network outage, or something similar.
"We're going to have to transfer you to our high balance department."... Um, Ok.
First person I talk to, figure out the situation fairly quickly; I've used 81GB in the last month, and despite being on the 25$ / month unlimited data plan, the system has freaked out and wants to charge me for it all - sort of. It's listed on my account as 'unbilled data charges'. Anyway, she re-enables my data plan, and will call me back when her supervisor is off the phone. She agrees with me that it's a bug, that my 25$ a month plan should cover it - it's unlimited, after all.
I call back about 3 hours later, and get a clueless guy. He basically tells me that he can't do anything, the ticket is already at a higher level than him, and that I should be getting a call tomorrow (that'd be today)... but goes on to discuss the issue with me anyway.
First, he tells me that he sees that I have 'unlimited web' - I say 'oh, heck no' - it's unlimited data; I'd never sign up for something called unlimited web. He agrees, but goes on to note that unlimited data doesn't cover 'downloading'. I ask him how he expects to view a web page without downloading data - oh, he didn't mean that, he means 'music and games'. Okay, how do they track that separately? He doesn't know - shocker, there. Whatever; I end the call.
This morning, I get a call from a somewhat more knowledgeable guy - admittedly, he opened the conversation by noting that I appeared to have excessive 'data roaming charges' - nope, never did any roaming - and that the useage in question was 'all last weekend' - I -wish- their network (or the Nexus!) could handle 80gb over a 48 hour period. We come to agree that this is basically a glitch in their system - they had to assign some max value somewhere to bytes used per month (there's no way programatically to say infinite, besides, warning bells when someone like me goes nuts with the bandwidth is probably useful to 'em), and I hit that limit, and the system couldn't figure out what to do billing-wise... Apparently, to clear the mess completely, they have to refer it up to some tech department, and I should hear back in ~ 72 hours or so.
So, long story shortened: 41,000$ is a scary number to hear over the phone, but 25$ unlimited data trumps 41,000$ billing glitch.
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81GBs!!! Damn man, i can only imagine what you download!
Stop torrenting when you tether!!!!
But I was aware that when you reached the 10gb cap they have on thier data plans, they just throttle you to edge till your next billing cycle.
Woah, let me ask First of all. 81GB??? Thats a hell of a lot data. im thinking tethering maybe? But whatever thast not the problem here.
So i took a look around T-mobile.com and the Plan specifically says " Unlimited Data" not web or any of that so you're right.
However i would expect for T-mobile to give you problems after reaching such "limit"
Keep us posted with your Talk with the reps and if you ever have any questions always ask to speak with a supervisor to handle this specific issue. Im thinking they should let you go with a warning.
For what? well unlimited is never unlimited but rather just another word for anytime use over the period of a month. Yup!
and i have read however like the G1 plan came with a 10Gb Cap unlimited data. meaning that you can access the internet 24/7 while staying under the 10GB range of data downloads.
But that does not apply so much as after you reach such levels, you should be "capped" right, meaning cut off the internet for the remaining period of the month. So dont let them convince you otherwise, i dont even make that a YEAR ...WTF????
THATS A PRETTY BIG NUMBER, i'd shoot myself.
Good Luck and let me know how it goes
Happend to me once when i had my palm treo, Except it was 1,600$ my parents about had a heart attack when they got the bill in the mail.
Austin021296 said:
Happend to me once when i had my palm treo, Except it was 1,600$ my parents about had a heart attack when they got the bill in the mail.
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Well my mom called the next morning to see what was going on and apparently it was some roaming charges, we were in Mexico the following week for vacation but luckily we got to talk to a supervisor or some head guy and they took them off, just charged the regular data plan.
81GB of data transfer in one weekend? i don't think i do that much in a month between my phone, PC, xbox, PS3, AND laptop. damn man lol
hope it all works out in the end.
There was a Guy on att last year who got a 20k bill for slingboxing a whole football game.
I hope it gets cleared up. The only possible way to reach 80gb on a mobile phone is to tether it, and if you did no such thing then it clearly is a glitch.
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I hope it gets cleared up. The only possible way to reach 80gb on a mobile phone is to tether it, and if you did no such thing then it clearly is a glitch.
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Installing a torrent client on your phone will do it. Multiple exchange accounts will do it as well. My dad averaged about 100 GB/month on his data plan, and that was sheerly from constant exchange pushes from his corporate exchange account. My buddy was averaging 10-20 gigs/week from torrenting on his phone.
Lemme clear up a few things:
a) none of the reps I've spoken to, in any of the departments, expects me to be liable for and part of 41,000$; I have the unlimited data plan, the billing's a glitch. And isn't showing on my account, either; I owe 'em 0.00$, since I'm paid up for the past month.
b) this wasn't on a single weekend; I wish t-mob's service was capable of 500K/s =) It isn't. This was 81GB over the period of a month.
c) Capping: they do this, or rather, they do throttling; as you reach various 'milestones', they cap you to 50k/s. Mind you, it doesn't work; typically, after receiving a text msg that I'd been throttled, I'd still see speeds in excess of 100k/s. Cutting you off completely, should never be the answer.
d) What could account for that amount of useage: yes, tethering could do it; however, it can be done through other means as well. F'r'instance, 'newsrob', an offline newsreader: I have had it set in the past to 500 articles, full bore (not just newsfeed, but also full webpage + images), refresh every 30 minutes. With a decent stack of rss feeds, this can keep your bandwidth pegged constantly.
LOL. Hope the OP gets it taking care of.
I use tether heavily on my N1 account with TMO, but have never had any issues. Tethering to a notebook, etc. will definitely rack up data usage quickly
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That's a lot of lolcat vids you downloaded my friend.
Just kidding, funny story =)
Sickening. You all won't be happy until we have 5 gig hard caps to control the quality of service.
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Sickening. You all won't be happy until we have 5 gig hard caps to control the quality of service.
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If I'm correct, AT&T I think does have a 5 GB cap.
Though if you're tethering, 81 GB seems a bit...light.
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If I'm correct, AT&T I think does have a 5 GB cap.
Though if you're tethering, 81 GB seems a bit...light.
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They don't, it's unlimited for now but they will have to do something about it to control people like the OP dragging down the network quality.
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They don't, it's unlimited for now but they will have to do something about it to control people like the OP dragging down the network quality.
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Looks like AT&T does actually:
AT&T Plan Terms
Oh and as for the OP "dragging down the network quality," that's clearly any service provider's fault for not realizing demand and possibly even throttling accordingly. That's the whole issue I have with data plans, but I won't go into that here.
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They don't, it's unlimited for now but they will have to do something about it to control people like the OP dragging down the network quality.
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Connections are throttled after using 10 gigs, to maintaing quality connections for everyone else.
Go cry somewhere else about nothing in particular.
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Connections are throttled after using 10 gigs, to maintaing quality connections for everyone else.
Go cry somewhere else about nothing in particular.
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No they aren't, if they we're throttled down to 50kbps reaching 80GB would be nearly impossible. That and I know for a fact that T-Mobile doesn't throttle for "certain". They clearly state that they MAY throttle you down and to get to 80GB you must be doing something against the TOS.
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Looks like AT&T does actually:
AT&T Plan Terms
Oh and as for the OP "dragging down the network quality," that's clearly any service provider's fault for not realizing demand and possibly even throttling accordingly. That's the whole issue I have with data plans, but I won't go into that here.
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They clearly have stated that data plans for smartphones isn't limited. Regardless, they will notice it and we will all be reduced to tiered data plans that will probably be more expensive than what we pay now to make up on what they lose not charging a flat rate to people that use less.
So I read about the 10 GB cap on T-mobiles 3g network and wanted to find for myself if there was one. So I started using the internet and yesterday my internet gets slow to edge speeds. And today I get a text message from T-mobile saying I reached my data threshold.
So its true there is a 10 GB cab for one month usage. Well then for the new people in T-mobile have this in mind ^^.
Fortunately my billing cycle ends in 3 days
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How long did it take you to hit 10GB. That is a ton of data. I don't think this cap could ever effect me.
It looks like people are really taking advantage of the tethering function. 10GB is more than enough data for me too. I don't think I'll ever have the need to go over that in a month. Are people using their phones to d/l torrents or something?
Damn you went over 10gigs. I thought the cap was at 5gigs. I know sprints caps at 5. I love T-Mobile.
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So I read about the 10 GB cap on T-mobiles 3g network and wanted to find for myself if there was one. So I started using the internet and yesterday my internet gets slow to edge speeds. And today I get a text message from T-mobile saying I reached my data threshold.
So its true there is a 10 GB cab for one month usage. Well then for the new people in T-mobile have this in mind ^^.
Fortunately my billing cycle ends in 3 days
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Do you have some way to know for sure that 10GB is actually the amount you used?
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Do you have some way to know for sure that 10GB is actually the amount you used?
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Aught to be able to login to your account at my.t-mobile.com and check usage to see the MB transferred.
Now does anyone know when you hit this threshold 5gb 10gb, whatever it is. does t mobile cut off your data completely or just throttle you? I've no problems with throttling down to edge, hell even gprs speeds would still let you send/recieve email, albeit slow as hell. but who cares the phone can do that in the background. it would suck for a heavy web browser though, but common if you're using that much data in a month i think you could use a little time out
I just hope t mobile doesn't follow the likes of what ATT and O2 just recently announced with the iphone4. no more unlimited data, u buy a fixed bucket of 1GB and every GB over that is $10 more. or if t mobile does go this route I hope those of us on current unlimited plans can stay grandfathered on them.
im on a $20 unlimited VPN plan that includes 200mms msgs. this 200mms is perfect for me, as most of the pics i send out are via email or twitter. ive never gone over that 200mms limit in the more than 2 or so years that ive had that plan, then I have a $10 unlimited txt addon. saves me the $5 of doing the unlimited txt/mms plan, and the smaller 1000 txt/mms bucket wouldn't work for me, as i easily go over 1000 txt in a month
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Aught to be able to login to your account at my.t-mobile.com and check usage to see the MB transferred.
Now does anyone know when you hit this threshold 5gb 10gb, whatever it is. does t mobile cut off your data completely or just throttle you? I've no problems with throttling down to edge, hell even gprs speeds would still let you send/recieve email, albeit slow as hell. but who cares the phone can do that in the background. it would suck for a heavy web browser though, but common if you're using that much data in a month i think you could use a little time out
I just hope t mobile doesn't follow the likes of what ATT and O2 just recently announced with the iphone4. no more unlimited data, u buy a fixed bucket of 1GB and every GB over that is $10 more. or if t mobile does go this route I hope those of us on current unlimited plans can stay grandfathered on them.
im on a $20 unlimited VPN plan that includes 200mms msgs. this 200mms is perfect for me, as most of the pics i send out are via email or twitter. ive never gone over that 200mms limit in the more than 2 or so years that ive had that plan, then I have a $10 unlimited txt addon. saves me the $5 of doing the unlimited txt/mms plan, and the smaller 1000 txt/mms bucket wouldn't work for me, as i easily go over 1000 txt in a month
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My friend who's on AT&T with an iphone said that anyone that had unlimited data already is grandfathered in. Anyone who signs up now can't get the unlimited data... Not saying it's fact, but I can't imagine screwing over long time customers by removing their unlimited data...
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My friend who's on AT&T with an iphone said that anyone that had unlimited data already is grandfathered in. Anyone who signs up now can't get the unlimited data... Not saying it's fact, but I can't imagine screwing over long time customers by removing their unlimited data...
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Yeah but you know ATT is gona get ya when you want to upgrade to the iphone4 or setup new service for an ipad. Sorry your old data plan is not compatible. Just like TMO was forcing all is us into the $30 data plan to get the HD2 at upgrade pricing. I paid outright for my HD2 to keep my grandfathered data. over the course of 2 years the cheaper data plan will cover what i paid extra to buy it outright, and then after that i start saving money. im also still contract free, since I've been off contract with TMO for something like 2 years now.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking about, I just didn't know if he'd confirmed that the point they throttled him started at 10GB of use, or if he just assumed that was the point it happened based on what he had read about the cap.
I remember reading that the tmo terms state that going over the cap (which I thought was at 5-6GB) would result in throttling as opposed to a hard cutoff...but no extra charges unlike AT&T
Even with fairly regular daily useage (casual surfing, mostly during my bus commute) I've never gone over 1.2GB in a month.
I couldn't search on Tmobile's website about how much data I've used. But calculating I downloaded about 6 dvds 1.5GB+ each it should have sum to 10 gb. I couldn't use that much data on my cellphone alone of course ^^. I wanted to see for myself if there was really a 10 gb cap.
Speeds I am getting now are edge even when its on the 3g network.
They didn't warm me about getting to the 10 GB cap with messages only when i passed it. I don't see any charges for passing the 10GB cap either so we will see in a couple of days.
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I couldn't search on Tmobile's website about how much data I've used. But calculating I downloaded about 6 dvds 1.5GB+ each it should have sum to 10 gb. I couldn't use that much data on my cellphone alone of course ^^. I wanted to see for myself if there was really a 10 gb cap.
Speeds I am getting now are edge even when its on the 3g network.
They didn't warm me about getting to the 10 GB cap with messages only when i passed it. I don't see any charges for passing the 10GB cap either so we will see in a couple of days.
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Yeah come to think of it I can only see my data usage totals after a billing cycle has closed out, not in the middle of one...but I've never tried calling them up to ask either.
Well that's fabulous news then, if they really wait 'till 10GB before throttling you! Just one more reason I'm glad I ended up with Tmo when I left AT&T 2 1/2 years ago
Tmobile Terms and Conditions - June 28,2008
It says a 5GB cap yet I've read they changed it to 10GB so its all good ^^
dy2k said:
Tmobile Terms and Conditions - June 28,2008
It says a 5GB cap yet I've read they changed it to 10GB so its all good ^^
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Yup, that's the one I remember reading...here's the important passage for anybody who doesn't feel like digging through all the fine print:
2. Protective Measures
To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth; if your total usage exceeds 5GB (amount is subject to change; please periodically check T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle. We may also suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, Plan, or service if you use your Data Plan in a manner that interferes with other customers’ service, our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or that otherwise may degrade service quality for other customers.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking about, I just didn't know if he'd confirmed that the point they throttled him started at 10GB of use, or if he just assumed that was the point it happened based on what he had read about the cap.
I remember reading that the tmo terms state that going over the cap (which I thought was at 5-6GB) would result in throttling as opposed to a hard cutoff...but no extra charges unlike AT&T
Even with fairly regular daily useage (casual surfing, mostly during my bus commute) I've never gone over 1.2GB in a month.
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Anyone even getting close to 10GB is obviously downloading lots of porn. Ha.
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Yeah come to think of it I can only see my data usage totals after a billing cycle has closed out, not in the middle of one...but I've never tried calling them up to ask either.
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Weird I can see my usage, and I have 2 billing days on my cycle, its been a light month for me, only 293mb used. maybe i should do something about that the next 2 days lol
To see this i am logged into my tmobile, click manage, then choose account use. shows minutes uses, txt messages, and data
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Weird I can see my usage, and I have 2 billing days on my cycle, its been a light month for me, only 293mb used. maybe i should do something about that the next 2 days lol
To see this i am logged into my tmobile, click manage, then choose account use. shows minutes uses, txt messages, and data
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Thanks d0ug, I had gotten almost that far...I was just looking on the overview tab there (which doesn't show data totals), not the one for my individual line (I have a fam plan). I'd post what mine is now, but it's so rediculously low this month that I might get laughed right out of xda
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Thanks d0ug, I had gotten almost that far...I was just looking on the overview tab there (which doesn't show data totals), not the one for my individual line (I have a fam plan). I'd post what mine is now, but it's so rediculously low this month that I might get laughed right out of xda
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lol, i got my HD 2 about a week before the billing cycle reset, with my old MDA i was averaging about 30-60mb a month. mainly email. In about a week i racked up 1.1gb of usage when i got the HD2, the newness has kinda worn off now i guess, so its back down to a more reasonable level
I originally just had a single line, but before the tmobile @home service was discontinued I had another line added for @home. Nothing had to change with my plan as far as it being a family plan, so maybe that's why it looks different.
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Anyone even getting close to 10GB is obviously downloading lots of porn. Ha.
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THEY'RE ONTO ME!!!
This is why we can't have nice things. I'm on track to use like 3GB's this billing cycle, my highest usage yet.
Not sure if there really is a cap...
Well, i use my phone as my cellular modem roughly 6 days a week 12 pluss hours a day. I use it manly for email back and forth with my office, im a field mgr for an a/c company here in florida. Each day, of 15 hours on the road i will usually spend 12 of it constantly connected with my laptop doing the following;
3-4 hours browsing the web, reading the news or some occational youtube or hulu.
6+ hours streaming music to the truck
Occational downloading of software, rom images for the hd2 or my nexus
Some movie downloads (backups of course)
I have also downloaded one blu-ray copy which was 22.5 gigs total and i still have no speed restriction.
It might be diffrent in certan places but most of all my downloading is in areas that have the hspda+ network and it might not be controlled as much since its not "currently" available in my area yet.
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OK, I haven't posted in a while so here's a fairly basic tutorial for everyone and hopefully this thread can atleast spark some valuable ideas for everyone.
So we all have nexus ones here, and based on the unique sales strategy of the nexus, I would guess almost all of us have extra phones just laying around lol (I, for example, have a G1 that was basically just a paperweight).
What I did was sign up for an extra line with no contract (t-mobile), no data, no texts, and the minimum amount of minutes possible. This cost me an extra petty $30/month, obviously only a dollar a day which is nothing..
Advantages of this:
You now will be walking around with two phones like a boss lol.. Imagine walking into a restaurant/bar and when you empty your pockets and go to set down your phone, it's actually both phones. In my case, I actually use the other line as a business line, just call up your carrier and ask them to change the caller i.d. name to your business name. Your extra phone is basically a fully functional phone, just because you also have a nexus one. The wifi hotspot on our nexus is critical here. We now have internet, emails, and text (with gtalk? I'm not sure because I only text on my main line). You don't have to ever worry about a wifi because you will always have your main phone, the nexus, in your other pocket.
Disadvantages of this:
Nothing, besides paying an extra dollar a day lol
Bring on the responses
Huh I don't understand why do I need a second line?
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Paying an extra 30 dollars a month for another phone that you don't really need?
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Paying an extra 30 dollars a month for another phone that you don't really need?
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I see what you're saying here but you gotta weigh out the variables
you can also use google voice and save those 30bucks.
or
you can upgrade your plan with those 30 bucks.
I don't get it...
I guess he doesn't realize that the Nexus One can be used to talk on. I too am guilty here to a degree, I have talked on mine perhaps 2 hours since I got it.
Otherwise, pass the crackpipe dude.
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I started this thread to spark new ideas for other nexus owners across the country
Actually your plan would only cost me more money- perhaps I am missing the BIG picture.
i like my plan better... 1000min + unlimited txt for $49 + tzones for $4.99 = $55 for 1000min,, unlimited txt, unlimited 3G data... been usingin it for 2 yrs no with no contract
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OK, I haven't posted in a while so here's a fairly basic tutorial for everyone and hopefully this thread can atleast spark some valuable ideas for everyone.
So we all have nexus ones here, and based on the unique sales strategy of the nexus, I would guess almost all of us have extra phones just laying around lol (I, for example, have a G1 that was basically just a paperweight).
What I did was sign up for an extra line with no contract (t-mobile), no data, no texts, and the minimum amount of minutes possible. This cost me an extra petty $30/month, obviously only a dollar a day which is nothing..
Advantages of this:
You now will be walking around with two phones like a boss lol.. Imagine walking into a restaurant/bar and when you empty your pockets and go to set down your phone, it's actually both phones. In my case, I actually use the other line as a business line, just call up your carrier and ask them to change the caller i.d. name to your business name (in my case it was first name: Skytek, last name: Apps). Your extra phone is basically a fully functional phone, just because you also have a nexus one. The wifi hotspot on our nexus is critical here. We now have internet, emails, and text (with gtalk? I'm not sure because I only text on my main line). You don't have to ever worry about a wifi because you will always have your main phone, the nexus, in your other pocket.
Disadvantages of this:
Nothing, besides paying an extra dollar a day lol
Bring on the responses
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I guess I don't understand why someone would shell out an additional $30 a month to carry around two phones? The Nexus already makes calls and has data, why do you need another phone to do the same thing? To look like a boss? Instead of sharing internet to the second phone, why not just browse on your Nexus? What's the point of this thread? So many questions...
How high do I need to be to understand this thread?
I understand what he's saying, get a second voice line, and be a cheapskate about the data. but if you want to look like a true boss, you lay two iPhone 4's on the table. and you pay $100/month for each. not a N1 and G1. geez!
And I bet nobody calls you on your business phone. Just saying.
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I understand what he's saying, get a second voice line, and be a cheapskate about the data. but if you want to look like a true boss, you lay two iPhone 4's on the table. and you pay $100/month for each. not a N1 and G1. geez!
And I bet nobody calls you on your business phone. Just saying.
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The g1 was just an example because I had an extra one that was just sitting around.. Paying an extra measly one dollar a day is worth it to me to go from one fully functional phone to two, even if I hardly use the other one lol.
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wtf
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Paying an extra measly one dollar a day is worth it to me to go from one fully functional phone to two, even if I hardly use the other one lol.
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Paying an extra $360 dollars a year for something you don't need is kinda silly, unless you like to blow money on random things.
Hell, I can think of many things I'd rather put $360 towards.
To everyone who's confused:
The OP is trying to make a joke (which sadly failed horribly).
I guess it's funny to him, which is all that matters, /shrug.
norazi said:
i like my plan better... 1000min + unlimited txt for $49 + tzones for $4.99 = $55 for 1000min,, unlimited txt, unlimited 3G data... been usingin it for 2 yrs no with no contract
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How? Are you a T-Mobile employee?
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Anyway: a better alternative that *everyone should do*:
A) Use Google Voice for free texting.
B) Buy a Gizmo5 account for $10 on ebay and set up free VoiP (works on 3G and Wifi), and tie it to your Google Voice number. This gives you unlimited minutes so you can downgrade your plan to the lowest amount.
The entire process takes about 10 minutes to set-up. I did it last week; it's very easy and works extremely well.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8813244&postcount=18
Anyway: a better alternative that *everyone should do*:
A) Use Google Voice for free texting.
B) Buy a Gizmo5 account for $10 on ebay and set up free VoiP (works on 3G and Wifi), and tie it to your Google Voice number. This gives you unlimited minutes so you can downgrade your plan to the lowest amount.
The entire process takes about 10 minutes to set-up. I did it last week; it's very easy and works extremely well.
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Yea this is what i have setup. I pay $25 a month each for 4 N1s on a family 1500 min even more plus plan (no contract) and $10 web2go data, blocked texting (use only google voice). If you just need a single line you can get a 500 minute plan for $29.99 and add the $10 web2go unlimited web for a total of $39.99 a month and no contract. All you have to do is change APN settings. This plan will expire before november 3, so those interested should jump on it today