Hello
i want to clean my german rom to the shortest size. I would like to remove the windows live messenger the transcriber and the office.
Then i want to flash the rom to my device the programm told me that the size of the nbh is wrong. It happens every time if the size goes under 50MB.
Any Ideas?
The file/ROM size can not be les then 51,200 mb. or 52.428.800 bytes
Does anyone know what limits it and how to get around that limiter if possible?
it's a common misconception that a smaller rom result in more storage
the part of the flash which is used for rom will be left empty and unused if
the rom is smaller
it will never be map'd to storage
Atze001 said:
Any Ideas?
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It seems you still can flash small ROM, but from memory card.
To make more storage you should remove everytin but the OS files and follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332863
ivanmmj said:
Does anyone know what limits it and how to get around that limiter if possible?
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Rudegar said:
it's a common misconception that a smaller rom result in more storage
the part of the flash which is used for rom will be left empty and unused if
the rom is smaller
it will never be map'd to storage
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On the Herald, the Storage size is determined by the size of the os.nb. It resizes it until it hits 51,200k. If I padd the file with blanks, it can flash smaller files, but the storage doesn't get formatted past that one point.
NikMel said:
To make more storage you should remove everytin but the OS files and follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332863
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That's what I've done, but my device will not format the storage past the 51,200kb limit... If you pad the file, it makes it that size... actually... I haven't tested it with a larger pad to see if it's the physical size or just the 51,200kb limit...
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First of all Happy New Year to all of you!
I'm going to cook some roms in the next few days and was wondering what the max working ROM size is. I want to build a ROM with as much apps as possible. Are there any known problems if I use up almost all the ROM space? I remember that there was this "not enough free memory" bug in one of the B&B or Meschle's ROMs. That actually happened although his ROM was extra-small I think.
And talking about the max. size why not talk about all the sizes. I read that the minimum size is a little over 50 MB. In theory there should be 128 MB available, right?
UPDATE: This is what I found out, no need to read the entire thread. I flashed a lot and coud reach a maximum of 65.546 KB, 65802 was too much for it. This ROM included ONLY the OS, I was able to flash a 20 MB Ext. ROM, maybe even larger is possible but doesn't make any sense to me. The RadioROM and the other stuff uses space too, that's the reason why you can't use 128 MB for your ROMs.
Registerme said:
First of all Happy New Year to all of you!
I'm going to cook some roms in the next few days and was wondering what the max working ROM size is. I want to build a ROM with as much apps as possible. Are there any known problems if I use up almost all the ROM space? I remember that there was this "not enough free memory" bug in one of the B&B or Meschle's ROMs. That actually happened although his ROM was extra-small I think.
And talking about the max. size why not talk about all the sizes. I read that the minimum size is a little over 50 MB. In theory there should be 128 MB available, right?
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If I'm not mistaken WM5 and 6 use persistent strorage - hence ROM is used for storing apps and data, whereas RAM is used for running apps and 'volatile' data. This was different in WM2003se earlier, as RAM was used for both installing apps and running apps and data. ROM was only used for the OS, and for 'built-in-storage', which was like a RAM drive (or ROM drive !!!).
So if you filled up your ROM (extended ROM) with apps, you'd not be able to install anything as there would be no space left. Correct me if I'm wrong.
PS that's why carrier's extended ROMs are only a couple of megs
Thanx for that info, but that's what I'm planning to do. Create a ROM with all the apps that I need so I don't need to install anything later.
I was only wondering because most ROMs seem to be about 50 MB in size but there is only 50 MB free space left to use. Doesn't the Artemis have 128 MB ROM?
Registerme said:
Thanx for that info, but that's what I'm planning to do. Create a ROM with all the apps that I need so I don't need to install anything later.
I was only wondering because most ROMs seem to be about 50 MB in size but there is only 50 MB free space left to use. Doesn't the Artemis have 128 MB ROM?
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Yeah, the atermis has 64mb ram and 128mb rom. I don't know if other space is reserved for the radio rom and the bootlooder etc. I expect that's the case. Good luck with building your ROM, please let me know how you get on.. my email is greenleef (at) talk21 (dot) com if you get a chance.
I want to build an extended ROM too, put all of my cabs in there. I'm just worried about using up valuable application storage space. But then again I install most larger apps to my storage card. What tools do you use, and do you need to CID unlock it first? I'm running the stock WM6 rom from 02.
I use Hyper Core Kitchen, Cook-Your-LLT, OK Package Creator 5.4 and BuildDSM. I also use UPX4PPC to shrink the .exe and .dll files on my pda and then copy the shrinked files back to the packages. I'm still working on that. You only need to use CID unlock if you have a CID locked ROM on your device.
I've succesfully created my first ROMs, 65 MB seems to be the maximum for the OS file, I tried a 20 MB extended ROM that worked out kinda ok. I must have made some mistake because the files installed but nothing was there afterwards to use. I think I might unlock the ext rom and use it as storage space, it's easier that way.
Registerme said:
I tried a 20 MB extended ROM that worked out kinda ok.
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Interesting, but - what for? If you use ExtROM, you reserve space for installers, and even more valuable storage space would be occupied for installed executables and data files.
Perhaps you can achieve better results installing programs from (and maybe - to) microSD card. At least, easier to manage, than reflashing ExtROM.
Anothe side effect: when I install programs to SD Card, after flashing it is enough to copy several .lnk files - and those programs are ready to use, without running installers.
In my opinion, ExtROM is a place for patching OS or keeping very necessary programs, which you could not inject into OS for some reason. Nothing more.
That's what I use my ext rom for, I put my system tools and other programs in there that don't fit in the os-rom. Those are tools I always use and that I haven't deleted in years, so I thought it would be a good idea to have them on my device in case my sd card ever dies or I have to do a hard reset.
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That's what I use my ext rom for, I put my system tools and other programs in there that don't fit in the os-rom. Those are tools I always use and that I haven't deleted in years, so I thought it would be a good idea to have them on my device in case my sd card ever dies or I have to do a hard reset.
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I like the idea of having apps and cabs in extrom, If I can figure it all out I plan to do it. I still use Cabinstall from 2003se on my Dell axim, as I find CABS going missing after i install them. I use PIM backup for PIM, and SPB backup for cloning my working rom with manually installed apps. All big apps go on storage card, which usually don't need registry keys so they're happy run from there - even TOMTOM6.
As far as my MicroSD giving up on me, I use symantec ghost, take an image of my SD every couple of weeks, and leave the image on my laptop.
One thing I really would like to do - remove all the useless .exes and things from my image... If I can free up 10meg from my ROM, I could unlock the extROM and use it as a storage area like you mention.... I think ROM is a lot faster than SD....
Hi all,
There are a few updates/hotfixes for the Leo on the HTC website at the moment which I want to download and install. My question: As some of these files are quite large, one is 12mb, where would these files be installed, internal memory or SD card, or will I be given a choice as per cab installation?
Thx for any replies.
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Hi all,
There are a few updates/hotfixes for the Leo on the HTC website at the moment which I want to download and install. My question: As some of these files are quite large, one is 12mb, where would these files be installed, internal memory or SD card, or will I be given a choice as per cab installation?
Thx for any replies.
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I surgest to install to Memory, it's safe.
douhua said:
I surgest to install to Memory, it's safe.
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Thx for the reply.
I have about 60mb of free memory on my phone at the moment. The updates/hotfixes I've downloaded, 9 files in all, add up to about 32mb. I know I should have probably gradually downloaded and installed these files. Therefore I would prefer to install to SD card. Can anyone see any problems with this, or do these files NEED to be installed direct to the device?
Again thx for any replies.
RoN_HD2 said:
Thx for the reply.
I have about 60mb of free memory on my phone at the moment. The updates/hotfixes I've downloaded, 9 files in all, add up to about 32mb. I know I should have probably gradually downloaded and installed these files. Therefore I would prefer to install to SD card. Can anyone see any problems with this, or do these files NEED to be installed direct to the device?
Again thx for any replies.
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these updates are not like cabs, and install into the ROM directly replacing previous file, so no extra storage is used up.
Not to mention you could just, take the stuff on your actual phone's memory and shift whatever files you have eating up the ridiculous amount of space the phone has on board to the SD card as well.
System files or updates shouldn't ever go on the SD card unless you're doing rom changing and that's a completely different beast. Reason being for me is that an SD card can mess up over time plus its nice to have reference to the files incase you need them again in the future.
Greetings.
Does a larger data.img hamper performance by comparison to a smaller one or is it just boot up time that suffers?
Thanks
Gus
gus_chi said:
Greetings.
Does a larger data.img hamper performance by comparison to a smaller one or is it just boot up time that suffers?
Thanks
Gus
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Boot up for me takes about, complete from turning phone off, 20 seconds. I read that going over 2 gigs does screw with Android.
deadmansink said:
Boot up for me takes about, complete from turning phone off, 20 seconds. I read that going over 2 gigs does screw with Android.
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Thanks. On an unrelated note, the APN settings from your signature saved my ass the other day. Thank You.
gus_chi said:
Thanks. On an unrelated note, the APN settings from your signature saved my ass the other day. Thank You.
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Glad to help
Gents.
I searched this form without an exact description about the file data.img.
when installing Android in my HD2 I have options of data.img.
256MB, 512MB, 1GB ....etc.
My questions are:
What is the data.img for?
What is the difference between different sizes of this file?
Really appreciate your help.
The data.img file is what is used to replace the 'internal memory' a native android phone has. The 'internal memory' of your HD2 stores Windows Mobile, so we use the SD card. The Android OS and the user's apps are stored in the data.img file and loaded into the RAM memory when needed.
edit: Oh and, the bigger the file, the bigger your virtual internal memory is, the more apps you can install on it. I'd recommend going for a 512 mb since most ROMs (with Froyo) support moving Apps to the 'actual sd', so the same place the data.img resides in.
Traveler0 said:
Gents.
I searched this form without an exact description about the file data.img.
when installing Android in my HD2 I have options of data.img.
256MB, 512MB, 1GB ....etc.
My questions are:
What is the data.img for?
What is the difference between different sizes of this file?
Really appreciate your help.
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Check my signature for a link or go to my thread and you'll see the "Data.img maker". Go up to 2 gigs for use with storage.
zhegoggles said:
The data.img file is what is used to replace the 'internal memory' a native android phone has. The 'internal memory' of your HD2 stores Windows Mobile, so we use the SD card. The Android OS and the user's apps are stored in the data.img file and loaded into the RAM memory when needed.
edit: Oh and, the bigger the file, the bigger your virtual internal memory is, the more apps you can install on it. I'd recommend going for a 512 mb since most ROMs (with Froyo) support moving Apps to the 'actual sd', so the same place the data.img resides in.
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This is really helpful, thank you very much
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Now I understand what ti is for. Noobie-me...
I need some help. I recently switched the ROM on my Android phone and copied all the data before hand. Successfully changed the ROM but when I tried to copy the data back, I found that I can't because the size is 1.47PB when the size on disk is 17.5GB. I've tried to compress it and to defrag it but that lead to nowhere
https://i.stack.imgur.com/xNPpc.png
I need a 1 PB hdd too. Where you got it?
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I need a 1 PB hdd too. Where you got it?
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That was helpful...
why does my tablet only display or use a small portion of my total storage space?
I have reformatted again and now I'm down to 1.8 GB of total hard drive capacity. I've tried clearing cash and I have literally no apps on it.
twrp-advanced wipe-data-repair or change file system-resize file system
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twrp-advanced wipe-data-repair or change file system-resize file system
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How do you change the file system?
not change file system
the butten name is "repair or change file system"
Oh ok gotcha... I still need to figure out how to get TWRP onto my tablet and I will report back right away
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twrp-advanced wipe-data-repair or change file system-resize file system
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Thank you very much It worked... Well sort of... It is back to 32 GB but for some unknown reason I have 11 GB used coming off of a complete reformat I have nothing in any of the folders and I've deleted as much of the bloatware that I can get my fingers on... There might be a little something else on here but certainly not 11 GB
scampo77 said:
Thank you very much It worked... Well sort of... It is back to 32 GB but for some unknown reason I have 11 GB used coming off of a complete reformat I have nothing in any of the folders and I've deleted as much of the bloatware that I can get my fingers on... There might be a little something else on here but certainly not 11 GB
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I do a lot of installs on a Tab A. After installing a new ROM - fresh install - you will have a little over 21GB free. This is normal.