BatteryStatus (1.04.203 beta4) displays CPU speed as 312 MHz. It never changes regardless of the program being used.
Does anyone else see this?
Can anyone explain why it does not display 624 Mhz?
Can't explain it, but mine does the same. TCPMP reports 630mhz though.
this would not surprise me cause i had the p3600 before this phone and i did not see a difference in speed between the phones even through the p3600 had a 400mhz cpu
This is a known bug of BatteryStatus.
Actually this is not a bug, The battery status is made for XDA Neo (prophet) which runs an OMAP Processor so it is not compatible with Intel/Marvell Xscale or the Samsung's CPU's.
I have a p3300 which runs a 200Mhz OMAP and the battery status works great on it.
jazzymc said:
Actually this is not a bug, The battery status is made for XDA Neo (prophet) which runs an OMAP Processor so it is not compatible with Intel/Marvell Xscale or the Samsung's CPU's.
I have a p3300 which runs a 200Mhz OMAP and the battery status works great on it.
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My bad. Sorry.... but it would be great if this super plug in could work with Xscale as well.
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Anyone with some benchmarks yet?
Would be nice to see the difference between:
1.) Intel XScale Bulverde @ 416 MHz found in the Magician
2.) TI OMAP 850 @ 200Mhz found in the Wizard
Also, a comparaison of the battery life would be handy.
Cheers!
I am very interested in the actual performance of the Wizard against ie. the Himalaya.
Of course the cpu is TI and not Intel, but 195/200MHz instead of 400Mhz should make a difference. I can hardly believe the Wizard performs same/better than Himalaya.
Can someone post his/her experience and or bench marks?
I am more than happy to show my benchmark, if someone points to a tol that does test well
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Edit: Just googled & found this on http://www.gsmarena.com/i_mate_k_jam-reviews-1278.php :
the TI OMAP 850 processor that HTC uses in this phone has an ARM core, not an Xscale like like the Magician's Intel processor did. If you look at speed tests ARMs run at around twice the speed of Xscales, so this phone should be about as good as the JAM processorwise (Don't like how we only get 64mb of ram though). For details on the OMAP check out TI's site
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...00&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_850
JBenchmark 2 figures: http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/image/htc/tornado/jb2.gif found on http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-tornado-en.shtml
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Looks like the OMAP chipset (=more than an ARM926 CPU) in the Wizard at least acts faster than the XScale found in the Magician
thanx
no way. s100's processor is 412 Mhz, and 9100's processor is officially 195, but actually is 185. so, s100 is twice as fast as 9100 :!:
U have to remember that the 9100 is a dual core processor.
so?
Mhz does not usually mean faster. Take Intel and AMD for example. Even though Intel has higher clock speed, it is not faster than AMD.
Just to drive that point home, at work a client started an unofficial benchmarking of systems, and results include
- an AMD Athlon64 3000+ at 2GHz, single core, single CPU... let's say this machine's speed is '1'
- an Intel Core Duo T2400 at 1.83GHz, dual core, single CPU... it's almost 2.5 times as fast.
That said, the OMAP may be dual core, but it's not 'dual core' like desktop/notebook processors. The two cores each specialize in different parts. You might notice that, for example, it's easier to multitask on these chips - while video playback won't see any performance boost and is likely to be slower.
Depending on your needs, your mileage may vary.
Omap 850 go 195 Mhz because it's downgraded by HTC for safety reason (they reply me like that) Processor is only 200 Mhz but for radio is performed by another chip.... i have both and Wizard isn't speed as Magician.
I find Sony Ericsson P900 at 153mhz to be much faster and responsive than any XDA. Although that's probably more to do with Microsoft's sketchy OS than the processor.
I think the Wizard overclocked to 264mhz is much fater at moving around the OS than a BlueAngel at 400mhz, but like someone said above, it's not so good at video playback.
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in this case, my CPU is set to - 264MHZ are there any problems
to stay on this MHZs /battery, cpu lifetime, errors and accidental
shut downs/ ?
To compare use benchmarks (TCPMP for example)
darkheroz said:
in this case, my CPU is set to - 264MHZ are there any problems
to stay on this MHZs /battery, cpu lifetime, errors and accidental
shut downs/ ?
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Hi most people find it more stable at 240Mhz omapclock speed (260Mhz true as measured by sktools) but if it is stable for you - thats cool.
Hey guys this old x-scale vs omap thing has been bashed out numerous times!! Please for our sanity no more!! :wink: Anyhow looks like x-scale is being dropped by intel.
Hi,
I have seen benchmarks on this site, but I dont know in what topic.
In summary, the wizard is almost twice as fast as the magician, and the xda executer is twice as fast as the wizard, I have seen those benchmarks but I dont have the link. Also my wizard proves day after day that it is not slow at all, any game or CPU intensive program runs smoothly just the way you like.
So, dont be misled by the frequency measure, it is unfair to compare two different architectures only with regard to clock speed only, even a small improvement in the cache technology, or the pipeline design could bring massive performance advantages to the system's processor performance.
Regards,
Mohammad
no, the wizard is slower than the magician. i have both so i know. one thing is the processor even though it is dual core (one for pda, one for phone). the other reason is the way the os manages memory, with wm5 using persistent storage rather than having things ready on ram. this is running both without overclock that is.
This is not neccesserly true, maybe wm2003 OS is much lighter than WM5, its like comparing two identical desktop computers one is running windows 95, the other is running windows2000 and claiming that the one that runs windows 95 is faster. From my point of view (as a computer engineer) Benchmarking is the only trustful way to tell.
Another thing is that dual coring the processor has removed the overhead of managing the phone hardware by the main core, and this is definitely an advantage!!!
Another plus for the OMAP processor is that it consumes less power, and we all know that the most important resource for handheld devices is power, afterall, if you want to compare the actual CPU speed you have to run benchmarks on both devices, regardless of how the magician seems to be faster.
So lets search for benchmarks and put what we get here.
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Update:
I found the benchmarks, enjoy!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27512&highlight=benchmarks
i have my 9100 from today (used a s100 for one year.)
the 9100 reacts quicker to start,browsing...
only TT loading takes a few seconds longer
Heya folks,
awhile ago, i installed batterystatus plugin and it reflected the device speed as 300MHz.
Yesterday, after installing sktools 3.0.74, i chanced upon the following while playing around.
System Info:
Processor core : SC32442-400MHz
Clock speed: 300
This bothered me .
Googled the net to find possible answers. And it seems that i'm not alone. Some others have found the processor to be "underclocked" at 300MHz, but all had assumed that it was probably the batterystatus plugin that was reflecting the clockspeed with errors.
My question is, it would be a mighty coincidence for both abovementioned apps to reflect the samsung processor as so. If it is indeed a Samsung 400Mhz proc that's been underclocked, does anyone know of a way to clock back to 400MHz.
have a hunch that this 300mhz is software limited. Can anyone shed some light on this?
It would be great *hint hint* if some guru could write a simple app to allow us to choose between 300 or 400 mhz or battery savings or full-on power modes.
Thanks.
From what I know .. it's actually a 300MHz proc that has been overclocked to 400MHz ...
On Hermes production devices the processor is Samsung SC32442A - 400MHz @1.5V
On Hermes preproduction devices the processor is Samsung SC32442 - 300MHz @1.35V
See the wiki hardware page for the samsung link with detailed information on the processor.
pof said:
On Hermes production devices the processor is Samsung SC32442A - 400MHz @1.5V
On Hermes preproduction devices the processor is Samsung SC32442 - 300MHz @1.35V
See the wiki hardware page for the samsung link with detailed information on the processor.
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heya pof,
thanks for the pointers. However, i do not think that i have a preproduction model. my S/N HT631xxxx.
Could you shed some light on this. Thanks once again.
thescum said:
heya pof,
thanks for the pointers. However, i do not think that i have a preproduction model. my S/N HT631xxxx.
Could you shed some light on this. Thanks once again.
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Go to Settings/Device Information/Hardware, what cpu and speed is showing on the page?
Mine is 2442A/400MHz
mlai said:
Go to Settings/Device Information/Hardware, what cpu and speed is showing on the page?
Mine is 2442A/400MHz
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My Jasjam shows the same.
heya ppcnut and mlai,
in device information, mine shows the same as yours.
CPU: Samsung(R) 2442A
Speed: 400MHz
However, in both batterystatus and sktools system information,
the speed is reflected as 300MHz.
Hence i had thought that the device info was a static text file, and not actually reflecting the actual clockspeed of the device.
I think you are 100% right.
8125 300mhz w/battery status
I have an 8125 and Samsung(R) 2442A, 400mhz. I also have a reading of 300mhz with battery status. Does anyone actually have one that shows 400mhz as operating speed or is this the way it is?
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I have an 8125 and Samsung(R) 2442A, 400mhz. I also have a reading of 300mhz with battery status. Does anyone actually have one that shows 400mhz as operating speed or is this the way it is?
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you do not have an 8125 that reads 300 unless its broke.. do you maybe have a 8525?
has anyone done any benchmarks to show that the device is actually running higher than 300??? mine shows 400 in the device info as well.. and every app that i have used showed mine running at 300, i find this very odd...
Yes, I do have an 8525, just got it so I guess it was Freudian...sorry.
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Yes, I do have an 8525, just got it so I guess it was Freudian...sorry.
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its all good, would have been interesting to see an 8125 at 300mhz
have others Replacement
CHT9000 CPU is Samsung SC32442
have anyone know others cpu can Replacement Samsung SC32442 ？
Battery Status reads my CPU speed as 400mhz on my 8525.
Here we go. I took a screen shot of my Today screen. Reading 400mhz as we speak.
I've got an I-mate Jasjam which also shows 400Mhz for clockspeed. Cheers...
51819 said:
CHT9000 CPU is Samsung SC32442
have anyone know others cpu can Replacement Samsung SC32442 ？
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No, there is no other replacement. Why dig up this old thread that does not pertain to your question?
can p3600 be overclocked?
thank you!!!!!!
PS. I have the pocketpchack4 and I overclock it to 450Mhz but I want more.......................!!
nope.. pocketpc hack doesn't really work. If you run benchmarks at 200, 400 and 450 mhz, you'll get the same readings. So far, nothing out there can really modify the cpu speed.
As far as I know, there's no working program so far.
hi,there are news?
i'll want overclock my device.
the p3600i have the same processor of p3600?it work @500mhz...good...!
p3600i dont have the same cpu as p3600
the cpu speed is set by the crystal and multiplier
if the multiplier is not able to change using software
one cant overclock
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p3600i dont have the same cpu as p3600
the cpu speed is set by the crystal and multiplier
if the multiplier is not able to change using software
one cant overclock
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and then I can't overclock...bad bad bad...
it's impossible have cpu 500mhz...?
I think that was the same processor...
only the same processor as a pentium 1.4Ghz and pentium 1.8Ghz is the same processor
overclocking is running the component in this case the cpu out of specs
how many overclock a cpu can handle before freezing up varies alot
and can shorten it's lifespan and give alot shorter battery lenght
I've run benchmark from SKTools, and it stated X1's RAM performance as far below Diamond, and I've noticed that my X1 ix indeed can be considered slow when running a lot of programs while it still have more than 50% more RAM; I've seen the CPU usage and it wasn't really stressed out.
So my conclusion is that X1 RAM is somewhat slow (mean : RAM speed, and timings -if you're familiar to the world of overclocking and such)
anybody else noticed?
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I've run benchmark from SKTools, and it stated X1's RAM performance as far below Diamond, and I've noticed that my X1 ix indeed can be considered slow when running a lot of programs while it still have more than 50% more RAM; I've seen the CPU usage and it wasn't really stressed out.
So my conclusion is that X1 RAM is somewhat slow (mean : RAM speed, and timings -if you're familiar to the world of overclocking and such)
anybody else noticed?
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I would be quite skeptical of these results, HTC Diamond, Touch Pro and HD have nearly the same hardware components as X1. They have exactly the same CPU and I wouldn't mind to bet that they have the same (or similar) memory chip.
Maybe more benchmarks should be done by other users of both devices just in case.
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I've run benchmark from SKTools, and it stated X1's RAM performance as far below Diamond, and I've noticed that my X1 ix indeed can be considered slow when running a lot of programs while it still have more than 50% more RAM; I've seen the CPU usage and it wasn't really stressed out.
So my conclusion is that X1 RAM is somewhat slow (mean : RAM speed, and timings -if you're familiar to the world of overclocking and such)
anybody else noticed?
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Hm, my score is 1010.00 if thats some sort of help
nap007 said:
I've run benchmark from SKTools, and it stated X1's RAM performance as far below Diamond, and I've noticed that my X1 ix indeed can be considered slow when running a lot of programs while it still have more than 50% more RAM; I've seen the CPU usage and it wasn't really stressed out.
So my conclusion is that X1 RAM is somewhat slow (mean : RAM speed, and timings -if you're familiar to the world of overclocking and such)
anybody else noticed?
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I think it depends on what your phone is up to when you run it.
These are my Xperia results.
2nd fastest integer cpu results (323.57)
HTC Touch Diamond (331.11) with the Qualcomm MSM7201A CPU
RAM speed was actaully a lot faster than the Touch Diamond
Xperia X1 (1493)
Samsung Omnia (868)
HTC Touch Diamond (472)
In most of the other tests the Xperia scores very well.
Try a soft reset and benchmark it again maybe ?
Did you also notice SKTools shows CPU Clock speed of 400000000 or 400MHz !
Not sure if thats because the CPU is not running at full speed when its at low CPU utilitization or its been clock speed reduced to help with battery life like the iPhones.
iXX
ixxeon said:
I think it depends on what your phone is up to when you run it.
These are my Xperia results.
2nd fastest integer cpu results (323.57)
HTC Touch Diamond (331.11) with the Qualcomm MSM7201A CPU
RAM speed was actaully a lot faster than the Touch Diamond
Xperia X1 (1493)
Samsung Omnia (868)
HTC Touch Diamond (472)
In most of the other tests the Xperia scores very well.
Try a soft reset and benchmark it again maybe ?
Did you also notice SKTools shows CPU Clock speed of 400000000 or 400MHz !
Not sure if thats because the CPU is not running at full speed when its at low CPU utilitization or its been clock speed reduced to help with battery life like the iPhones.
iXX
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hmmm you're right, I re test it again and now it's just a bit slower than yours, there has been some inconsistency it seemed.
interesting.... HomeScreen PlusPlus ALSO reports 400 MHz..... i think Device Information under Start --> Settings is only showing the SPECIFICATION that it's 528 MHz but I'm pretty sure it's underclocked to 400 MHz.
Same for me: 400 mhz. We need to find a program to overclock the device.
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Same for me: 400 mhz. We need to find a program to overclock the device.
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Maybe I am wrong but I think these devices have dinamic CPU speed. So probably 400 Mhz is the "normal" speed but it goes up to 528 only when "is needed". In the same way It goest down to 200 Mhz in standby
Dani