Hi I just got a new Sandisk Micro sd card and would like some info on the procedures to run the majority of my programs/files off the storage card, so the Wing can process at blazing speeds.....I'm sure this thread will be useful for many users. Give Thanks for all your suggestions!!!!
now that you mention it, things get interesting.
It turns out that if you run things off of a card, things DONT get faster. They may even get slower. But if you want raw, awesomelicious, delectable storage, you have the right card.
Some programs do not work if you install them on the storage card.
Just remember: if USB=RAM, PC=SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWW
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I havent looked too deeply into this, preferring to ask like .. So please don't eat me.
Its late and all ..
I'm wondering what speed the SD card reader in the Universal is?
Is it worth spending a little extra on some 60x Corsair SD cards or should I just get the bargain bin stuff since the Universal maybe doesnt have a particularly quick card reader?
Any advice welcome. I plan to use this is a system disk with seperate 512 card for my MP3's and pod casts/documents. THAT will be cheap stuff.
But for the main I need a 1gb system disk for storing apps and system stuff.
Compared to a dedicated USB card reader for the PC, the Universal is extremely slow - I have tested this with my 150X 2GB SD card. So unless you plan on using it with a PC card reader, it doesn't really matter
Accessing the SD card through activesync was at least 10 times slower than the card reader...
I did a small test with Pocket Mechanic.
1. My "normal" 2 GB sandisk gives 0.84MB/sec
2. My super duper Extreme III Sandisk 1 GB gives me a whopping 0.88MB sec.
Nr . 2 card, in my portable, writes files much, much faster than nr.1.
You can see however that in my Jasjar the difference is nearly zero.
I would say: go for the cheapest, but I am not a great technician.
Huib
Thanks guys ..
Very informative and will help me get the right card. ie. the cheapest!
-Gubbs
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I have not noticed any difference between a basic Sandisk card and a so called 66x KingMax card when used in the exec.
I do notice a difference between these two cards when using them with my digicam - the multishot mode (2 frames/sec) actually works cause the camera is able to write to the card quickly enough. With the slow card, cam kept pausing to write its cache onto the card.
I am not sure that pocket mechanic tells the truth! Likewise, timing a copy from the internal flash to an SD card is not gonna give accurate results (speed of internal flash may be bottleneck). On Wm2003 devices this was possible cause RAM is loads faster than flash still.
You cant test the speed of the SD reader in the exec over activesync tho!! Its a USB 1.1 device (max 11Mbit) and on top of that activesync treats it as a 10Mbit network card. Max you'll see after overheads is thus around 1MByte/sec
Nigel
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You cant test the speed of the SD reader in the exec over activesync tho!! Its a USB 1.1 device (max 11Mbit) and on top of that activesync treats it as a 10Mbit network card. Max you'll see after overheads is thus around 1MByte/sec
Nigel
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Certainly much better to do it that way.
Huib
ok i m having problem to decide as well...
anyone has a more concrete data about this ?
i m thinking whether to choose a normal 66x or 133x ...
getting 2gb sd card.. either transcend or pretec...
by the way exec sd slot is 1.01 or 1.1 specification?
hope someone has a benchmark to share.. thanks
1gb Scandisk does the job for me.
Watched a movie on it the other night, perfect. Plenty fast enough.
Its HTC so you can be assured it will be genius design with cheap crap chipset.
Bit like an Italian sportscar.
get one of those sd-usb card combo's....if u can find one going at a decent price.
saves the hassle of card readers. the LAST thing anyone needs is yet another wire lol
Hello everybody,
I just bought a Kingston 2GB MicroSD with miniSD and Sd converters. It doesn't work on my MDA Vario. I tried with 1GB microsd and there was no problem. Then i tried the 2GB card on my Charmer and it read it in a blink. I formatted the card numerous times and the vario can't read it. So I'm out of options now.
The first time I used the 2Gb card the vario read it and then i copied some files with a card reader (under Ubuntu 8.04), and then it stopped reading it
Can you guys think of something that can fix the card?
had the same problem
i also had the same problem with my 8125 and i did a lot of things to it like yourself.
but the only thing that got it fixed was to flash a rom back to my 8125. so i flash the same rom i had and my sd card worked like a charm.
i hope i have helped.
I have had a lot of trouble with memory cards in my Wizard. Sometimes they're read, and sometimes they're not. And some never read. Very frustrating! You can keep trying to insert and remove it; once it a while it will appear. But once it sees it, it doesn't "lose" it, so I'm always very reluctant to eject a memory card. I've got a 1GB micro-SD in a converter and it works most of the time. I wish I knew why it was so flaky.
Considering the sheer number of posts like these that I've seen, I'm inclined to think that the Wizard just has a crappy card reader. It's a shame, but then again, it's also a pretty old phone, by current standards (18 months is obsolete in phone lifespans).
Thanks for the responses!
I have an update.
I made a hard reset - nothing. Then I flashed the latest TNT WM6.1 ROM - still nothing.
Card isn't working (actually it is but only with power off/power on), although my Charmer still reads it. I made several low level formats, and formatted it with the charmer. Nothing happened. So i tried a friends 2G Kingston MiniSD. It works without any problems. Still he said he had some issues so he removes it only when the device is off. However this is not acceptable for me and i'm now using 1Gb microSD with adapter.
The thing that really bugs me is that the Charmer reads it with no problems. The hardware in the charmer is pretty much the same besides the SD slot and lack of wifi.
I would suggest that you don't use your card with ubuntu 8.04 + card reader. It killed my SD card once (on the Charmer) and i lost some information.
My guess is that the wizard has some problems with 2GB cards. As I know some SD card readers can't read 2G, because it was never intended for the SD standard to have such big cards. For this I would suggest that if you have any problems turn off the device put the card and power it on. It should see it then. I can't recall which FAT i used for format, i think it was fat32. I think the wizard runs a bit slower with the 2G, but it could be my imagination.
Until I can solve this problem with not seeing the card when it is plugged while the device is on I'm sticking to 1G.
Is your 2GB card SD, or is it SDHC?
SDHC cannot be read by HTC Wizard, period. There have been a few card makers that actually produce 4GB mini SDs, but they number in single digits (and low, at that). Generally, you can find 2GB miniSDs without too much hassle. I'd be very surprised to find a microSD over 2GB. If your microSD is SDHC, there's your problem, right there.
Also, the general consensus from these boards is that your SD card should be formatted to FAT, not FAT32, to be read by a Wizard consistently. It'll still be readable by other machines, but your Wizard will balk at reading FAT32 (not all the time, but most of the time).
Lastly, never bother trying to use your phone as a USB card reader. It's just way too slow. If you have a card reader, stick to loading/unloading with that.
And turning off the phone to jack in/out the miniSD is a very good idea. It may not be an ideal situation, but losing your data while you're away from your desktop isn't exactly optimal, either, is it?
It is SD, not SDHC. Kingston MicroSd with adapter, actually the one with 2 adapters.
I got the thing with the FAT, not FAT32, after I wrote the post, I formatted it using FAT.
The card reader and Ubuntu of course wrecked the 1Gb card I'm using (yesterday) - the wreck with the strange named dirs, so only Windows+card reader for now.
I don't care about the data on the card, it's not important (and I have a backup on the desktop). I would like to be able to put it in and out whenever I like, with the device on. It seems that this won't happen.
Thanks for the great input Myrddin Wyllt!
My 2gb micro sd card lets me store over a 1000 photos, but my 8gb is only letting me store 500.
When I check the available memory on the card it says 6.5 gb, any ideas on what may be causing the limited photo storage.
Have you formatted the card via the option on the HD2? Start>Tools>Format SD Card
You didn't get the card off ebay did you?
Had the same problem. Thought it was a bad card. Then thought it's the software limitation. Eventually did a soft reset and sorted it out. So no need to worry about it mate.
Hi,
I am new to Android as I just switched from iOS. Does getting an android phone with higher internal memory make the phone perform faster since the phone get slow when you install too many apps in the phone's internal memory? Would you guys recommend me to save everything in micro sd card? Is there a setting where I can set to directly install apps into micro sd card rather than internal memory? Please advise thanks so much =).
heartnet89 said:
Hi,
I am new to Android as I just switched from iOS. Does getting an android phone with higher internal memory make the phone perform faster since the phone get slow when you install too many apps in the phone's internal memory? Would you guys recommend me to save everything in micro sd card? Is there a setting where I can set to directly install apps into micro sd card rather than internal memory? Please advise thanks so much =).
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This is not a windows pc.. So your phone will not slow down.. However you may see battery drains.. You can use directory bind for installing application data on the external sdcard card..
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My Yoga Book always says that my SD card is missing and I need to reinstall it. I install it as part of the internal storage, this might be the issue. I have gone through three different brands, Samsung microsd card does not work at all for me. Simply will not read, says it is incompatible. The other two work for about a couple hours but then I will reboot and sudenly it will not read and say it is not inserted, when it is. So frustrating. Also when the microsd card is unreadable, I have the second issue of the Book not coming back on after it sleeps or when the screen times out. To get the screen to come back on I have to take out the microsd card and the screen will come right on, but than says " the is no sd card, please insert." Any one else having this issue? I really want to like this little machine but it seems REALLY underbaked.
I have an idea of what is happening with my cards. I have a very good Samsung microsd but the machine first said "This card is too slow" !!! I set up the microsd card as "internal" storage not media storage. Well, the Book formats the card, uses it but on reboot it looses the card and says the card is either "not in" or, the card is "not compatible". So I try to reformat but the Book will not format it and neither will my PC or any other device. I keep getting that the micro sd card is now "write protected" or "cannot format raw data", so now I have two expensive micro sd cards that are completely useless and I am very very upset. I have one other card I can try to use in the Book and format it as "media" instead of "internal" but Im afraid it might raw format it too and Im stuck. AAARRGGHH. Any ideas on how to re-format these micro sd cards?
Hi! Any update regarding the issue? Would be really glad to know if you have resolved it as I am currently experiencing something similar with my Yoga Book (Windows). I have a 128GB microsd and sometimes it suddenly stops recognising it. I've never had the too slow error though. My card was formatted using NTFS.
Wondering whether the card tray design is bad, and if the card gets displaced when moving around. I'll try another card, and will update this post later.
Android must be formatted to fat32, although the best way is to format it in a Android device like your phone if needed. Not sure about your other issues. Is there an update from Lenovo maybe. My card reader is just fine. #knockonwood
31stfreak said:
Hi! Any update regarding the issue? Would be really glad to know if you have resolved it as I am currently experiencing something similar with my Yoga Book (Windows). I have a 128GB microsd and sometimes it suddenly stops recognising it. I've never had the too slow error though. My card was formatted using NTFS.
Wondering whether the card tray design is bad, and if the card gets displaced when moving around. I'll try another card, and will update this post later.
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Sadly I ended up buying a new microsd card. My two cards that I started with are still un accessible and useless. I format it to Fat32 and inserted into the YogaBook and designated the card as media. It's been working great ever since. Still annoyed that I am out $100 worth of micro SD cards
Good luck to you. I have the Android version.
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Sadly I ended up buying a new microsd card. My two cards that I started with are still un accessible and useless. I format it to Fat32 and inserted into the YogaBook and designated the card as media. It's been working great ever since. Still annoyed that I am out $100 worth of micro SD cards
Good luck to you. I have the Android version.
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Hi! (In my case) I think it was due to the "thickness" or dimensions of the microSD. I had one that was slightly thicker than the original card I was using for the Yoga Book. I swapped them, and haven't had any problem since then. Sorry to hear that you had to shell out another $100. That really sucks. Mine was sheer luck. (Thanks to the added "chunk.")
Hope this bit of info will be useful for other YB owners.
Unfortunately I can confirm that ;/
In my case I observed the same...
I have a model with windows. It's EXTREMELY slow! Generally, no just the SD card. Almost impossible to work on it. Lenovo sucks!
According to the SC slot I've tried many different SD cards and always the same... Time of copying 2GB file, calculated by windows, about 672 hours... Only...
This is my second computer from Lenovo, and the last one.
If you're migrating files, try doing small amounts and copy not cut and paste. Otherwise just take the card out and do it on a more robust pc.
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In my case I observed the same...
I have a model with windows. It's EXTREMELY slow! Generally, no just the SD card. Almost impossible to work on it. Lenovo sucks!
According to the SC slot I've tried many different SD cards and always the same... Time of copying 2GB file, calculated by windows, about 672 hours... Only...
This is my second computer from Lenovo, and the last one.
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I'm using an SD card and it seems to be running fine. Are you using it for something that needs regular access to your SD card? Like, installing Windows or a program on it? Because that will make transferring to and from the SD card very slow, or at least a lot slower than what it would usually be. The technology in the Yoga Book's SD card slot is old, so it can't handle stressful situations.
Hi, Thanks for your answers,
My main HD has 64GB, its not a lot of, so I thought about changing location of My Documents and all my files on the SD card. But after setting of paths to SD the computer froze due to it couldn't read SD fast enough.
So, I decided to move my personal folders back and tried to move files manually.
But the situation is the same :/
Don't you think that transferring of files on the another computer to SD card has no sens??
It is needed for me to move files from YB to another computer, so while I can't do it than the SD slot and whole Yoga Book is totally useless for me.
Do you think, guys, that it is possible to install Android on it?? There is a possibility to boot from the external USB-CD or just USB, but I couldn't find the Android version for YB.
Maybe with Android it will work??
Did someone of you tried to do it??
Thanks
dr_harnas said:
Hi, Thanks for your answers,
My main HD has 64GB, its not a lot of, so I thought about changing location of My Documents and all my files on the SD card. But after setting of paths to SD the computer froze due to it couldn't read SD fast enough.
So, I decided to move my personal folders back and tried to move files manually.
But the situation is the same :/
Don't you think that transferring of files on the another computer to SD card has no sens??
It is needed for me to move files from YB to another computer, so while I can't do it than the SD slot and whole Yoga Book is totally useless for me.
Do you think, guys, that it is possible to install Android on it?? There is a possibility to boot from the external USB-CD or just USB, but I couldn't find the Android version for YB.
Maybe with Android it will work??
Did someone of you tried to do it??
Thanks
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I did delete Windows 10 and try install Android, however, I was not successful in getting it usable. So right now, Android is a no-go for those who have the Windows 10 version (although, you can install emulators that allow you to run Android apps). I usually try to minimise how many things I have on my Yoga Book - keeping apps to a minimum, and I've got my Downloads and Documents on my SD card and it's fine. Maybe your SD card is an old one?
Believe me, I've tried all possibilities, which came to my head
I bought three different SD cards (actually I have SanDisk Extreme microSDXC UHS-II, 128GB, formated in exFat) and nothing.
I tried also to run linux, and I noticed a small difference in relation to Win10, that in linux the copying process is pending all the time, while Win10 is breaking the process every time and ordering me remove the write protection.
Hi guys,
I found a solution!!!
I don't know why, but I created two 64GB partitions (almost, just 50% and 50%) on the card and formatted as a fat32 and.... Suddenly it works!
Thanks for your attention!
Has anyone tried the 200GB or 265GB micro SD cards yet? google search seems indicate that it might work but not able to get any concrete proof.
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Yes, I use a Samsung 256GB micro SD card fine in my YB. Insert it and format it using the YB and it'll format it as FAT32. Only problem with that is I need to convert/compress my larger than 4GB movie files to something smaller.
thanks to PPC_Ed's confirmation, I ordered a 200GB drive and was able to get it working on my Yoga Book Android.
512GB SD card
Grooby97 said:
Has anyone tried the 200GB or 265GB micro SD cards yet? google search seems indicate that it might work but not able to get any concrete proof.
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I bought a cheap 512GB sd card on eBay for less than $12 from China. I have stored tons of stuff on it. Downloaded a 1080p movie onto it using the adapter on my laptop and the lap top wanted to fix issues. It did, and everything still is fine. It actually might not be 512gb, but I have more than 200gb on it and it works fine - no speed issues at all. Android still reports 512gb total capacity (499 gb). I couldn't be happier with the $12 spent.