Herald as a Hidef Camcorder - Wing, P4350 General

Has any1 tried to increase (hack/regedit/hexedit, or thirdparty app, homebrew app, etc.) the resolution of video capture. With an Overclocked CPU what do y'all think is the highest resolution captured possible w/ this 2M camera. 1280x720p? 1920x1080i/p?. I know there are HD camcorders out there w/ less CPU power but dedicated chips for video encoding. How difficult to write such an app? Any tips to get started? Much thanks.

It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.

kraftey said:
It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.
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I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.

For sure this would be a great improvement, but as you all know PPC camera's are complete ****. I doubt that anything like this is possible but I would love for someone to prove me wrong.

wickedwings said:
I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.
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Heh the standard camera app won't let you get past 176x144 in movie mode. You might be able to squeeze a jolty 320x240 clip out of your phone when using a third party app such as CoolCamera and overclocking the crap out of your chip, but 640x480 is off limits by far. The camera on these things is slow and not nearly as sophisticated as a camcorder. You'll have to wait another few years

Try to use Ateksoft "Cool caera" or Webcamera plus.
You can get ebtter pics and videos with Coolcamera.....
Up to 640x480 and more.
But Highdefinition is something else
http://ateksoft.com/

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No zoom when filming in 720p

Hey there
I got my Desire HD now for 2 days, and I love it.
The recording of videos is beautiful, but I am dissapointed about one thing.
When you record in 480x800 resolution, you can use a very nice zoombar, and it works great.
But when I want to record in HD with 720p, I cannot zoom anymore...
Why is this..., and is there maybe a way to enable the zoom with 720p?
Sorry but you clearly dont understand zoom, the maximum definition of the camera is 720p, without an optical zoom i.e. a big lens there is no way to zoom in and maintain 720p.
Software zoom works by enlarging the picture - using less definition. So there will never be able to do this while maintaining 720p.
MC_BLADE said:
Sorry but you clearly dont understand zoom, the maximum definition of the camera is 720p, without an optical zoom i.e. a big lens there is no way to zoom in and maintain 720p.
Software zoom works by enlarging the picture - using less definition. So there will never be able to do this while maintaining 720p.
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I knew this, but why is it not possible to enlage the picture with 720p?
because it would be misleading?
If you had a setting for 720p, and say you zoomed in by just 25% your almost back to Standard definition.
so why not just film in normal definition in the first place?
MC_BLADE said:
because it would be misleading?
If you had a setting for 720p, and say you zoomed in by just 25% your almost back to Standard definition.
so why not just film in normal definition in the first place?
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So what... if I film with normal definition and use the zoom, the quality will drop either.
When I film in 720, it has a bigger resolution, I would like to zoom in a bigger resolution, but yea... maybe HTC does not have enough experience with cameras yet (so far I heard).
Anyways, I like the camera either, but I'm just dissapointed that I'm not able to zoom in 720p mode.
If you film at normal definition (under 720p), you will have sharper digital zoom, because the camera is more sensitive and has lot pixels left "to zoom with". It is hard to explain, but trust me, zooming at normal definition is possible without losing so much quality.
jkoljo said:
If you film at normal definition (under 720p), you will have sharper digital zoom, because the camera is more sensitive and has lot pixels left "to zoom with". It is hard to explain, but trust me, zooming at normal definition is possible without losing so much quality.
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You might be right there!
Because I did a test with the camera, like zooming, and focusing, and the quality doesn't drop that much when zooming.
Check out my camera test here
Yeah, the zooming should be really good at least when using up to mid range zoom
joshoon said:
So what... if I film with normal definition and use the zoom, the quality will drop either.
When I film in 720, it has a bigger resolution, I would like to zoom in a bigger resolution, but yea... maybe HTC does not have enough experience with cameras yet (so far I heard).
Anyways, I like the camera either, but I'm just dissapointed that I'm not able to zoom in 720p mode.
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Thats where we need clarrification from HTC..
How do you know that when you zoom in standard resolution the it doesn't do it by using the full resolution and zooming in on that part, thus maintaing the full 480p and that section you have zoomed in on?
I would sugest this is the case - have you tried it?
jkoljo said:
If you film at normal definition (under 720p), you will have sharper digital zoom, because the camera is more sensitive and has lot pixels left "to zoom with". It is hard to explain, but trust me, zooming at normal definition is possible without losing so much quality.
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beat me to it...
MC_BLADE said:
Thats where we need clarrification from HTC..
How do you know that when you zoom in standard resolution the it doesn't do it by using the full resolution and zooming in on that part, thus maintaing the full 480p and that section you have zoomed in on?
I would sugest this is the case - have you tried it?
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Can you reply in normal English pls? English is not my mainlanguage, but the way you type does it make even harder for me.
Anyways, I don't know if I understand it right, but you try to tell me that I don't know that if I zoom in with a standard resolution that it uses its full resolution?
joshoon said:
Can you reply in normal English pls? English is not my mainlanguage, but the way you type does it make even harder for me.
Anyways, I don't know if I understand it right, but you try to tell me that I don't know that if I zoom in with a standard resolution that it uses its full resolution?
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I was trying to put it in simplistic terms... sorry
imagine if you had 720 lines, you can move yourself so close you can only see 480.
Well this works in reverse if you only want 480 lines and you zoom in, in effect your selecting the middle 480 lines of the total 720. so you should not see any loss in quality, unless you are really zooming all the way in.
any better?
MC_BLADE said:
I was trying to put it in simplistic terms... sorry
imagine if you had 720 lines, you can move yourself so close you can only see 480.
Well this works in reverse if you only want 480 lines and you zoom in, in effect your selecting the middle 480 lines of the total 720. so you should not see any loss in quality, unless you are really zooming all the way in.
any better?
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Yea but that is what I said before, the quality doesn't drop that much when you zoom in, thats very noticeable in my testing video.
joshoon said:
You might be right there!
Because I did a test with the camera, like zooming, and focusing, and the quality doesn't drop that much when zooming.
Check out my camera test here
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jesus the camera on these are terrible
who knows said:
jesus the camera on these are terrible
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No it's quite nice! but in darkness it become snowy.

[Q] Android Camera vs WM Camera

Is it me or the quality of photos taken in Android is a lot worse than the ones taken in WM?
any hint/tip/advise on this?
brunoavrocha said:
Is it me or the quality of photos taken in Android is a lot worse than the ones taken in WM?
any hint/tip/advise on this?
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I think the same. It's as the white balance doesnt' work fine, isn't it?
Hi
they are worse! thats just one thing!
the resolution of the android photo capture is 2MP (1600x1200) instead of the real 5MP (2560x1920). ant the light exposure whith the LED's in the dark is sometimes to bright... (white-balance)
(on MDJ's ROM's not sure about the other ones..)
the video recording is pretty good in image way: WVGA (800x480), but the sound is [email protected]!
did some re-search, with VLC.
The audio.
codec: samr
samplespeed: 8000hz
bits per sample: 16 @ 128kb/s (windows says 13kb/s)
Tje video.
codec: mp4v
sample rate:15fps to 30fps (varies from light and dark environment)
IannEefje said:
Hi
they are worse! thats just one thing!
the resolution of the android photo capture is 2MP (1600x1200) instead of the real 5MP (2560x1920). ant the light exposure whith the LED's in the dark is sometimes to bright... (white-balance)
(on MDJ's ROM's not sure about the other ones..)
the video recording is pretty good in image way: WVGA (800x480), but the sound is [email protected]!
did some re-search, with VLC.
The audio.
codec: samr
samplespeed: 8000hz
bits per sample: 16 @ 128kb/s (windows says 13kb/s)
Tje video.
codec: mp4v
sample rate:15fps to 30fps (varies from light and dark environment)
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afaik the current camera apps have real 5mp.
a foto taken by my cam shows a resolution of 2592*1944 thats ~5mp.
but the white-balance with led flash is really a problem
I've just taken some photos and when I saw it on the pc, it looked terrible. My SE W610i (2mpx) takes a lot better photos...
Photos
Yes there is no arguring. Android photos suck compared to those in WM! I have tried to take photos with wm and android at the same time...
I noticed some diference. Forcing widescreen photo's does'nt matchup with the widescreen photo's taken in windows mobile. But nonetheless, i dont care. I just want a working camera on Desire HD build!!!! And I can't find a clue how far the developing is
zoom
how do you zoom in with htc camera, never figured that out
zap1 said:
afaik the current camera apps have real 5mp.
a foto taken by my cam shows a resolution of 2592*1944 thats ~5mp.
but the white-balance with led flash is really a problem
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yes indeed it says 5MP but when you put it on your pc you will see its not 5MP!
and 2592x1944 is wide screen 5MP and strictly seen not a true 5MP
please check the photo's on your pc!
if is is a real 5MP please thel me what ROM u are using
I've actually noticed BETTER quality in Android than in WM. I made a post about it a while ago, but can't be arsed to find it now. The white balance is actually more realistic under Android.
dapoharoun said:
how do you zoom in with htc camera, never figured that out
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the zoom isn't available for now... u just have to be patient
the are Cam. apps at the market the supports zoom....
Wildcopper said:
I've actually noticed BETTER quality in Android than in WM. I made a post about it a while ago, but can't be arsed to find it now. The white balance is actually more realistic under Android.
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I'd have to agree, all my android pics look so much clearer and detailed compared to the same objects/scenerys under winmo
I agree... photos taken with winmo always turnout better for me. But I can't complain ... atleast we can take photos with android. Most andrid ports for winmo phones can't use camera at all. We have a very good port for our hd2s.... but its still a port.
Alot of people seem to expect android to work as well as a native android phone. Amazingly our android port does function better than a native android phone with a stock rom in some cases.... but when you mod, root and put custom roms on a native android phone with similar specs, it definitely outperforms our ported android.
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[Q] Possible to make HD recording enable int the future?

As it was possible for the nexus one, im wondering if it maybe will be possible for the tab when you are enable to flash it?
And one question to is, is the video recording any good? and is there any software to make the resolution higher when you watch it? i one if you convert the quality wont be beter but if will be the same but on bigger screens?
regards
The Nexus had a 5mp where as this has 3mp. I wouldnt exactly say the Nexus had HD recording, IMHO, the image was just a bit sharper and more of a makeshift HD.
Would it even be possible to record HD with 3mp?
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it should be.. 1920x1080 is just over 2mp
Im sure record and playback will get much better once we have a good custom kernel to flash.
D4rk4n63l said:
it should be.. 1920x1080 is just over 2mp
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For recording the sensor needs to be able to push whatever you're recording at a decent number of frames/sec though and if the hardware doesn't cope with it, then you don't really get a much better image than you would than simply resizing the existing video to the same size. It's mostly a waste of time on the N1 as the quality is quite poor regardless of the resolution, I suspect it'd be even more so on the Tab.
Sometimes you just need better quality optics and/or sensors, software can't always substitute the hardware.

Nexus camera res fix

So i really am interested in purchasing the new google phone but the resolution on the camera is very low. It is the same camera, if i am correct, as the one in the galaxy lines so i would think that a bit of tweaking and it can be raised. Does anyone know if this is possible or is it stuck at that resolution? I know CM is coming soon, will they have a fix like this?
ruben8448 said:
So i really am interested in purchasing the new google phone but the resolution on the camera is very low. It is the same camera, if i am correct, as the one in the galaxy lines so i would think that a bit of tweaking and it can be raised. Does anyone know if this is possible or is it stuck at that resolution? I know CM is coming soon, will they have a fix like this?
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the camera module in the NS and the SGS phones are different, both 5MP but the NS has a hardware limitation that does not allow 720p
You should bring out a real camera instead if 5MP is low for you
OO really, hm that kinda stinks. Thanks for the reply though. And it has nothing to do with 5mp as being to low, it has to do with that 5mp only giving out 720 by 480 pics when every other phone does 720p and i believe some can do 1080p. The res is what i'm referring too not the MP of the camera.
ruben8448 said:
OO really, hm that kinda stinks. Thanks for the reply though. And it has nothing to do with 5mp as being to low, it has to do with that 5mp only giving out 720 by 480 pics when every other phone does 720p and i believe some can do 1080p. The res is what i'm referring too not the MP of the camera.
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still images are the full 5MP resolution which is 2560x1920 but the video is just 480p
Oh really? Ok, fail on my part. I thought pic resolution got affected. Ok i can live 480p video. Thanks a lot.

Camera Hack?

The guys working on the Lg Optimus 2X has managed to hack the camera and make it better. Can someone do the same for our Dell Streak?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090785
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094424
Final5k said:
The guys working on the Lg Optimus 2X has managed to hack the camera and make it better. Can someone do the same for our Dell Streak?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090785
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094424
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Best hacks i can think of are to uninstall the built in camera app and install 3rd party apps for camera and video recording, suggested starting points Camera ZOOM FX and lgcamera
I borrow this thread for a second or two.
Does anyone know of a camera app that
let you use the whole width of the lens?
What i mean is how to get the pictures
to match the screen resolution, when u
look at them on the Streak? And I don't
mean 800x480 pictures, but with decent
resolution (i.e. using the full capacity of
the 5MP camera). It always bothers me
that the pics doesn't fill the Dell screen.
Anyone
Televinken said:
I borrow this thread for a second or two.
Does anyone know of a camera app that
let you use the whole width of the lens?
What i mean is how to get the pictures
to match the screen resolution, when u
look at them on the Streak? And I don't
mean 800x480 pictures, but with decent
resolution (i.e. using the full capacity of
the 5MP camera). It always bothers me
that the pics doesn't fill the Dell screen.
Anyone
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Well many 3rd party apps can do this, try Camera ZOOM FX, that enables you to choose many resolutions.
Thanx alot for trying to help. I tried a few 3:rd part apps
but they all force you to go down alot in resolution, to
match the 15:9 aspect ratio of the screen. Anyone
knowing of an app that can take 15:9 photos
with high resolutions? Thanx once again.

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