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Has any1 tried to increase (hack/regedit/hexedit, or thirdparty app, homebrew app, etc.) the resolution of video capture. With an Overclocked CPU what do y'all think is the highest resolution captured possible w/ this 2M camera. 1280x720p? 1920x1080i/p?. I know there are HD camcorders out there w/ less CPU power but dedicated chips for video encoding. How difficult to write such an app? Any tips to get started? Much thanks.
It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.
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It's a 2mp camera so the max resolution is 1600x1200 if you go past that you start to get ripping/tearing and the images look ugly (I believe). It would be nice if the camera recorded in a higher quality/resolution I just don't know if that's possible with the hardware.
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I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.
For sure this would be a great improvement, but as you all know PPC camera's are complete ****. I doubt that anything like this is possible but I would love for someone to prove me wrong.
wickedwings said:
I don't have the phone yet. But I believe that the current App only allows a much lower res than 1600x1200 for video capturing, such as 640x480. Still image is possible up to 1600x1200. Pls chime in current owners. Thanks.
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Heh the standard camera app won't let you get past 176x144 in movie mode. You might be able to squeeze a jolty 320x240 clip out of your phone when using a third party app such as CoolCamera and overclocking the crap out of your chip, but 640x480 is off limits by far. The camera on these things is slow and not nearly as sophisticated as a camcorder. You'll have to wait another few years
Try to use Ateksoft "Cool caera" or Webcamera plus.
You can get ebtter pics and videos with Coolcamera.....
Up to 640x480 and more.
But Highdefinition is something else
http://ateksoft.com/
I took a picture and the picture looked good until I zoomed in. Despite taking a "superfine" picture on the maximum available resolution, zooming in resulted in an extremely grainy photograph. Pictures taken on my HTC Raphael running Windows Mobile look far better.
I am still happy with the phone and I am sure the picture quality will be fine for what little I use it for, but I really expected a much higher level of detail.
Have you considered the Galaxy S allows for larger zoom?
I moved the pictures from the Raph to my Galaxy S, so I am viewing them on the same platform.
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I moved the pictures from the Raph to my Galaxy S, so I am viewing them on the same platform.
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But the picture you took on your ralph is how many megapixels?
Either way a photo when viewed on a monitor will be resized to 1080 max.your just Digital Zooming farther...megapixel doesn't mean quality..it just means your capturing more
3.2 Megapixels on the Raph. I'm going to mess around with settings and see if I can get a better picture, but I was really hoping for this phone to have everything working well out of the box without tweaking.
It's not disappointing because I wasn't expecting much. But the signal to noise ratio of the pics is low. You can see quite a bit of grain. I do like the color saturation.
Meh, it works as a phone cam.
So far with the GPS/Compass issues and the average quality cam, I'm not considering this a "superphone" or a premium Android device. It's just ok. And I'm ok with that.
jaredangus said:
3.2 Megapixels on the Raph. I'm going to mess around with settings and see if I can get a better picture, but I was really hoping for this phone to have everything working well out of the box without tweaking.
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it is working well....take your pc and resize the images to 1920x1080...
again megapixels does not give you quality..but allows you for farther zoom..if you zoom in more...I have a 6mp canon camera...when I zoom it it looks grainy as well..but when its printed or uploaded..it is rescaled to proper resolution..then it looks perfect...
More megapixels equals less quality on any small device.
Ps I thought that Vibrant didnt have gps issues, no ?
I noticed the same grainy quality and am slightly disappointed as well. But if you make sure you are in the best mode for your environment the quality improves appreciably. Still, the issue is not happy making.
kolyan said:
More megapixels equals less quality on any small device.
Ps I thought that Vibrant didnt have gps issues, no ?
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From what I read...the GPS issue is only with Google Maps when there was one, when using a GPS software there was no issue..but firmware upgrade fixed that either way..
@bdjnk - Again..this is to be expected...megapixels != quality...it only allows for more zoom...the quality when compared was no different then a 5mp canon camera...so far the Galaxy S actually has the best camera of any phone of the same class...
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From what I read...the GPS issue is only with Google Maps when there was one, when using a GPS software there was no issue..but firmware upgrade fixed that either way..
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Wrong, the GPS issue is actually more pronounced in other apps, for example, My Tracks.
Firmware upgrade didn't fix anything.
GPS and compass both are ****ty.
jaredangus said:
I took a picture and the picture looked good until I zoomed in. Despite taking a "superfine" picture on the maximum available resolution, zooming in resulted in an extremely grainy photograph. Pictures taken on my HTC Raphael running Windows Mobile look far better.
I am still happy with the phone and I am sure the picture quality will be fine for what little I use it for, but I really expected a much higher level of detail.
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Apparently the gallery isn't zooming in on photos like it should. Instead of comparing on your phone in the gallery, transfer the photos to a PC and compare on the PC.
You'll notice the GalaxyS pictures come out just fine.
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From what I read...the GPS issue is only with Google Maps when there was one, when using a GPS software there was no issue..but firmware upgrade fixed that either way..
@bdjnk - Again..this is to be expected...megapixels != quality...it only allows for more zoom...the quality when compared was no different then a 5mp canon camera...so far the Galaxy S actually has the best camera of any phone of the same class...
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Droid X might've nailed it. Dual Leds, panoramic shotting....
I moved over from a Nexus One...and I feel the same way...i love this phone, but the picture quality is not on par with the Nexus. I'm going it's a software issue and can be fixed.
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Droid X might've nailed it. Dual Leds, panoramic shotting....
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They did a side by side of a Galaxy S and DroidX camera...the Galaxy S pretty much destroyed the DroidX..mostly in video recording...
http://thedroidguy.blogspot.com/2010/07/samsung-captivate-vs-motorola-droid-x.html
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They did a side by side of a Galaxy S and DroidX camera...the Galaxy S pretty much destroyed the DroidX..mostly in video recording...
http://thedroidguy.blogspot.com/2010/07/samsung-captivate-vs-motorola-droid-x.html
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i dont really use Video feature on cellphones, but I do use Camera for shots when I dont have my S90 around.
I noticed on then vid that Galaxy was recording in 480p and Droid X in 720p.....whats up with that ?
kolyan said:
i dont really use Video feature on cellphones, but I do use Camera for shots when I dont have my S90 around.
I noticed on then vid that Galaxy was recording in 480p and Droid X in 720p.....whats up with that ?
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Yes I noticed that too..but for some reason the 480p version came out still better then the Droid 720p...its possible he accidently had it set to 480p or uploaded it as 480p
The G being an actual photo camera...
http://gadgetsdna.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/smartphone-comparisons_original1.jpg
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@bdjnk - Again..this is to be expected...megapixels != quality...it only allows for more zoom...the quality when compared was no different then a 5mp canon camera...so far the Galaxy S actually has the best camera of any phone of the same class...
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I didn't mention the word megapixel. I was talking about the noticable graininess that exists when viewing pictures, taken with the vibrant, at 100% zoom.
reuthermonkey said:
Apparently the gallery isn't zooming in on photos like it should. Instead of comparing on your phone in the gallery, transfer the photos to a PC and compare on the PC.
You'll notice the GalaxyS pictures come out just fine.
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Hm, not really. I am not an expert, but to my eye the same level of noticeable graininess is present on the phone and on my computer.
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I didn't mention the word megapixel. I was talking about the noticable graininess that exists when viewing pictures, taken with the vibrant, at 100% zoom.
Hm, not really. I am not an expert, but to my eye the same level of noticeable graininess is present on the phone and on my computer.
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What I am saying is this is generally normal on an unprocessed image with high megapixel count..resize both images to 1920x1080 (which is maximum screen resolution now) and you can see what the actual quality is...
Or are you expecting the phone to act like microscope?
to explain, if you do 100% zoom a 1mp would look better then a 3mp, a 3mp will look better then a 5mp..a 5mp would look better then a 20mp..its just how it is..
Can somebody record some shots using the updated camcorder app in the ota? It would be really interesting to see the "improvements" made by htc.
am uploading something right now... ill post when done its just a test ...am using the 2.2 that just came out
yes plz audio on camcorder is the most fail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M829mZlnnic
i just did it random i dint even check the audio thing haha
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i dotn know if i did something wrng but its not showing the 720 p on the youtube.. maybe it takes a while to processs :l
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M829mZlnnic
i just did it random i dint even check the audio thing haha
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i dotn know if i did something wrng but its not showing the 720 p on the youtube.. maybe it takes a while to processs :l
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Check the codec you recorded with; if it was h.264 you can only capture @480p
Not looking to good....maybe check the code try again.... oh well maybe the devs will make better.
Yeah check your settings. If that was 720p I don't see much different. Hopefully your settings weren't right.
Sent from the dark side of the moon.
there it is go to 720p....it was processing
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Check the codec you recorded with; if it was h.264 you can only capture @480p
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Evo video FPS is killing me. Subpar
edtate said:
Check the codec you recorded with; if it was h.264 you can only capture @480p
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Got this from another forum,
aznmode said:
When i select h264 as the compression I can only go up to 800 x 400 resolution. I have to select mpeg4 decoding to be able to record at 720p. Anyone else notice?
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The audio is ALOT better on the vid.
All I can say is, 24fps my ASS! *sigh*
Is there a way to just disable the video camera completely, because with that type of quality, if I ever did record something by accident, I'd have to kill myself.
On a "meh" note, the h.264 800x480 recording is very smooth and looks pretty good.
Not 720p, which still is pretty much what it was before, but at least it's something.
Really guys? I think it looks pretty decent. It's still no iPhone 4, but when he gets outside it definitely looks a bit smoother than it did before, and detail is a bit better as well. I remember before it would look like the camera had trouble even recording in 720 and would hiccup every few seconds. It may only be 24fps, but at least it's a CONSISTENT 24fps. don't forget every movie you've ever seen was filmed at 24fps... And yea, the indoor portion kinda sucked but that's due to the crap sensor they put in the evo.
while not recording the actual image on the screen looks a little smoother,but to my eyes it seems when you record its actually worst then before
audio is sooooooooooooooooooooo much better
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Really guys? I think it looks pretty decent. It's still no iPhone 4, but when he gets outside it definitely looks a bit smoother than it did before, and detail is a bit better as well. I remember before it would look like the camera had trouble even recording in 720 and would hiccup every few seconds. It may only be 24fps, but at least it's a CONSISTENT 24fps. don't forget every movie you've ever seen was filmed at 24fps... And yea, the indoor portion kinda sucked but that's due to the crap sensor they put in the evo.
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What are you talking about? It's using an 8 megapixel version of the EXACT same sensor they used in the iPhone 4 by the SAME manufacturer, and unlike most camera sensors in smartphones today, it's actually backlit. Please stop blaming the hardware before recognizing the real root of the problem.
AMDman18 said:
Really guys? I think it looks pretty decent. It's still no iPhone 4, but when he gets outside it definitely looks a bit smoother than it did before, and detail is a bit better as well. I remember before it would look like the camera had trouble even recording in 720 and would hiccup every few seconds. It may only be 24fps, but at least it's a CONSISTENT 24fps. don't forget every movie you've ever seen was filmed at 24fps... And yea, the indoor portion kinda sucked but that's due to the crap sensor they put in the evo.
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Ya, but pro cameras don't drop frame rates in low light.
I've seen my EVO drop to 8-12 FPS while recording in low light. Almost impossible to watch.
**** man i've given up on evo as a recording device.. what a waste of space..
So I was just wondering if there are any fixes to the camera on Android to make then 5MP. I know that the XTarantulla build has a 5MP Camera but I can't say the same for darkstones or dan's. Or at least I didn't get it. Also, I was wondering if there was a fix to make it 8MP like how we could go into the registry and edit it so that it was superfine and stuff. Just wondering. Didn't see anything about it here on the forums so I thought i'd bring it up.
numeria said:
So I was just wondering if there are any fixes to the camera on Android to make then 5MP. I know that the XTarantulla build has a 5MP Camera but I can't say the same for darkstones or dan's. Or at least I didn't get it. Also, I was wondering if there was a fix to make it 8MP like how we could go into the registry and edit it so that it was superfine and stuff. Just wondering. Didn't see anything about it here on the forums so I thought i'd bring it up.
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First off, they are working on it.
if you can successfully find and pull the camera drivers from the XT build and put it in another congrats.
as for the 8MP, that's just silly. the camera only is a 5MP, it can't be set to take pictures better than the hardware is capable of
cyanogen rom by shubi has 5mp camera. it has proper flash exposure (no full white pictures) and camcorder with flashlight.
memin1857 said:
cyanogen rom by shubi has 5mp camera. it has proper flash exposure (no full white pictures) and camcorder with flashlight.
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where to get this rom
memin1857 said:
cyanogen rom by shubi has 5mp camera. it has proper flash exposure (no full white pictures) and camcorder with flashlight.
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Do you know if the camcorder records in 720p? Thanks
cavemaneca said:
First off, they are working on it.
if you can successfully find and pull the camera drivers from the XT build and put it in another congrats.
as for the 8MP, that's just silly. the camera only is a 5MP, it can't be set to take pictures better than the hardware is capable of
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Maybe not up to true 8MP, but improvements can be done in software.
My old HTC Wizard's camera sensor is 1.3MP, with a scaled res. option for a pseudo 2MP mode.
Yes, it is not true 2MP, but an extra option over the standard 1.3MP.
This was done 4 years ago, why not now with our HD2?
Just my .02.
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where to get this rom
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You can get it form http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739755
second post.
Is there any hope that we might ever get 720p video capture?
Theoretically both the 5MP sensor and Snapdragon chipset are adequate, so is there any hope for HD capture?
Shawn_230 said:
Is there any hope that we might ever get 720p video capture?
Theoretically both the 5MP sensor and Snapdragon chipset are adequate, so is there any hope for HD capture?
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on robsbay.co.uk is stated that 720p video recording is already working, so that is great news
MarDor said:
on robsbay.co.uk is stated that 720p video recording is already working, so that is great news
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Woo, that's great!
I've been without an HD2 since mine broke a few months ago, been thinking of buying another HD2 to dual-boot WM and Android... if we can do HD capture I'm definitely buying one!
iandy1 said:
Maybe not up to true 8MP, but improvements can be done in software.
My old HTC Wizard's camera sensor is 1.3MP, with a scaled res. option for a pseudo 2MP mode.
Yes, it is not true 2MP, but an extra option over the standard 1.3MP.
This was done 4 years ago, why not now with our HD2?
Just my .02.
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This is nonsense ...you can make it 20mp if you want in photoshop but you will lose quality. Ex there are 5mp cameras that are taking better pictures than a 8mpx cameras, the result is important!
Shawn_230 said:
Woo, that's great!
I've been without an HD2 since mine broke a few months ago, been thinking of buying another HD2 to dual-boot WM and Android... if we can do HD capture I'm definitely buying one!
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Yeah, it's still a great device... I think I should have done the same
lucian777 said:
This is nonsense ...you can make it 20mp if you want in photoshop but you will lose quality. Ex there are 5mp cameras that are taking better pictures than a 8mpx cameras, the result is important!
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The 8mp superfine hack in wm rom development has already improved picture quality, as side by side comparisons have shown, it's not true 8mp but the difference was noticable. The camera is capable of slightly more than its spec.
lucian777 said:
This is nonsense ...you can make it 20mp if you want in photoshop but you will lose quality. Ex there are 5mp cameras that are taking better pictures than a 8mpx cameras, the result is important!
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As I said, not true resolution, but an option available on a device 4 years old.
Something like that can be done for the HD2 also as an option, being aware
of some quality loss.
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The 8mp superfine hack in wm rom development has already improved picture quality, as side by side comparisons have shown, it's not true 8mp but the difference was noticable. The camera is capable of slightly more than its spec.
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Thanks for the info.
LondonTownGuy said:
The 8mp superfine hack in wm rom development has already improved picture quality, as side by side comparisons have shown, it's not true 8mp but the difference was noticable. The camera is capable of slightly more than its spec.
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I thought all that did was reduce the compression, and the HD2 had huge issues with the camera in WinMo underperforming to start with, any of the improvements used in WinMo brought it to a standard your getting in Android already.
Phil
kerman19 said:
I thought all that did was reduce the compression, and the HD2 had huge issues with the camera in WinMo underperforming to start with, any of the improvements used in WinMo brought it to a standard your getting in Android already.
Phil
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Here is the thread with the tweeks to camera and video, dont know if it was just reducing compression, but there were inprovements when I tested.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602234
This is an easier cyanogen rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740963
(the other one is quite complex)
Any Apps with a button capture that we can use to take advantage of the 720p camera option?
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Here is the thread with the tweeks to camera and video, dont know if it was just reducing compression, but there were inprovements when I tested.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602234
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Oh man well that is for the win mo roms but I want to know if that's possible to tweak the androids camera to the regular 5mp out even to 8mp.
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LondonTownGuy said:
Here is the thread with the tweeks to camera and video, dont know if it was just reducing compression, but there were inprovements when I tested.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602234
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From looking at photo's I've taken previously in WinMo (With those teaks) and Android, Android comes out the overall winner, those tweaks for WinMo simply give you what HTC should have given us out of the box in the first place.
Android does not seem to suffer at all in the camera department, at least not for me anyway.
Phil
Hello guys...
I have DHD rooted so I was searching some files with root explorer and I found this:
In sys/android_camera there is a file with name sensor.
So I opened this file with Root Explorer (View as text) and inside I saw the model of camera sensor that DHD uses and it's the OmniVision ov8810 8M...
After a little search in the web I found the official description of this sensor and you can find it here http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=61#specifications.
From the Product Specifications you can see that the sensor can take video at 1080p.
So I assumed that we have the hardware but we miss the software...
Am I right???
Interesting. It can even take 720p in 60FPS, which would be veeery nice.
Ohh, interesting...
This does not surprise me. HTC is well-known for hampering their cameras. Maybe in an OTA later on or some crafty XDAer will check this out. I suggest PM'ing the ones who got 720p on the various other phones so they can check this out.
By the way, if my thoughts are correct and my eyes don't fool me, it says "10 @ Full"... even though I'm thinking this is full 8mp @ 10fps recording, this just does not seem real. No way in hell.
1080p? Honestly? I mean, it barely manages to capture [email protected]*, let alone [email protected], not to mention 1080p. I know DHD is one of the most powerful phone today, but I seriously doubt it has enough grunt to record at anything over 720p. Of course, I would be very glad if I could be proven wrong, but I'm affraid it won't happen .
Most of all, I would like to see it record video in [email protected] properly, especially in low(ish) light conditions.
On the brighter side, the image sensor does seem to be able to record in [email protected], [email protected] or indeed 10fps in full res, but I imagine it would require pretty fast memory card.
*Or it could be just stock SD card write speed limitation, but I doubt it.
gsmarena.com has been bashing the DHD's camera, in their latest review of the SE arc they even say that DHD is worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison
i'm not on the latest rom so i can't tell if they've really made any improvements on the camera quality and i haven't been taking enough pictures to judge but i think there's no point in having 1080*60fps if the quality of the videos is ****
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in their latest review of the SE arc they even say that DHD is worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison
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They said DHD is not worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison. Corrected that for you.
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They said DHD is not worthy of a true 8 megapixel camera comparison. Corrected that for you.
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DHD can't match the quality of my 7mp camera. Lenses make all the difference, megapixels alone are pretty useless.
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I use a custom ROM that is based in 1.72 and I have a class10 MicroSD and the video on 720p is very good with no lags...
So the thing I mentioned in first post is that the hardware seems to be capable to shoot in 30 @ 1080p.
No if the phone with all other parts is capable is another thing that some developers could answer...
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DHD can't match the quality of my 7mp camera. Lenses make all the difference, megapixels alone are pretty useless.
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Bang on!
But as a phone I fell DHDs camera is good enough, well for me anyway.
I would certainly like to see how the phone would handle 1080p recording lol, just for fun.
The CPU does not support video encoding above 720p 30fps.
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The CPU does not support video encoding above 720p 30fps.
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Only the dual cores that comeing up to future phones support encoding above 720p??
Frankly, DHD can't match my Nokia N95 from 2007, let alone my Sony 4mpix camera from 2006.
my one is different
samsung S5K3H1GX 8M
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Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
Mine has a samsung S5K3H1GX 8M
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kalagas said:
Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
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Mine also has a samsung S5K3H1GX 8M, and I can assure you it can't be better than yours
I like taking photos, but I never expected a phone to do too much.
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kalagas said:
Really???
That's strange... HTC put different hardware in the same device???
That's not fare cause I assume that Samsung's sensor might be better than mine...
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I have no qualms about the camera, for me it is 3 times better than my old Touch HD
how to check ? mind have guides please ?