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3.0 MP Camera? I have my doubts

Sure the camera doesn't have much of a lens, and the zoom is really interpolated; but I really have my doubts that the camera is actually a 3.0MP.
Have there been any in depth tests to prove the camera's resolution???
How big a file should it be with the 3.0M super fine photos?
I take photos at the highest resolution and there is still pixel 'blocking'. I know HTC is new to this, but it is a let down. My old Sony 2.0MP takes better photos.

Clearly u have mistaken abt the relationship between MP and picture quality.
Higher MP does not necessarily mean better images taken.
If u compare a logitech quickcam IM's photo to that of the microsoft 2MP one. u will realise that althought the IM only supports VGA but
picture quality is much better......

The 4 most important factors in photography: Skill, Lens quality, lens quality, lens quality.
And you did realize that when you use the 3 MP mode, there is no zoom available?
A typical 3 MP "Super fine" image will be around 900-1400 KB depending on colors and detail of the object/situation you photograph. A "Fine" photo will land around 450-750 KB.
There is no noticeable difference between "Fine" and "Super fine" modes except in close up, high contrast photos.
I have attached 2 photos for your comparison. Yes, the camera is of poor quality as seen by these 2 images.
http://bayimg.com/DAEKGaABO
http://bayimg.com/DaEkHAABO
Oh, and to double check the resolution, just take a picture, save it to your PC and open it up with any image editing program and see for yourself.

keithwwalker said:
Sure the camera doesn't have much of a lens, and the zoom is really interpolated; but I really have my doubts that the camera is actually a 3.0MP.
Have there been any in depth tests to prove the camera's resolution???
How big a file should it be with the 3.0M super fine photos?
I take photos at the highest resolution and there is still pixel 'blocking'. I know HTC is new to this, but it is a let down. My old Sony 2.0MP takes better photos.
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Did you really expect super great pictures on the data centric device? Sure SE Phones do a better job of this, but what else can they do?
If you want a high quality camera or anything else techy, always buy a dedicated device for the job. Simple.
Personally speaking I find the camera quality more than acceptable for a PPC/Phone, as a matter of fact I would go as far to say that it is the best in class out of all PPC Phones. Just MHO though.

mackaby007 said:
Personally speaking I find the camera quality more than acceptable for a PPC/Phone, as a matter of fact I would go as far to say that it is the best in class out of all PPC Phones.
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I've got the same impression about the cam,
at least compared to my old HTC Magician

Camera
The quality of the camera is probably the only reason why I have not let the X7501 fully replace my N95 as a phone!

thetruth1983 said:
The quality of the camera is probably the only reason why I have not let the X7501 fully replace my N95 as a phone!
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lmao, scnr

mojo2000 said:
lmao, scnr
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I've got an N95 and its camera isn't much better in my opinion, though it copes with moving subjects slightly better and video is VASTLY superior. I prefer B&W shots on the Ameo though. The flash on the Ameo is much brighter too - I still don't understand why HTC don't provide an automated flash function though - very annoying!

Sorry if I gave the impression that I was expecting a first rate camera with the 7501.
I purchased this for the following reasons, ranking in importance:
PDA
Phone
GPS
Media Player
Camera
With that said, there is another component to a good photo beside: Skill, Lens quality.
That is the software that puts all the image together.
My old Sony 2.0MP had a Carl Zeiss lens and the end product was still crap compared to the Canon's of the day. The internal software was the let down. So too the HTC.
keithwwalker said:
Sure the camera doesn't have much of a lens, and the zoom is really interpolated; but I really have my doubts that the camera is actually a 3.0MP.
Have there been any in depth tests to prove the camera's resolution???
How big a file should it be with the 3.0M super fine photos?
I take photos at the highest resolution and there is still pixel 'blocking'. I know HTC is new to this, but it is a let down. My old Sony 2.0MP takes better photos.
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Calavaro said:
The 4 most important factors in photography: Skill, Lens quality, lens quality, lens quality.
And you did realize that when you use the 3 MP mode, there is no zoom available?
A typical 3 MP "Super fine" image will be around 900-1400 KB depending on colors and detail of the object/situation you photograph. A "Fine" photo will land around 450-750 KB.
There is no noticeable difference between "Fine" and "Super fine" modes except in close up, high contrast photos.
I have attached 2 photos for your comparison. Yes, the camera is of poor quality as seen by these 2 images.
http://bayimg.com/DAEKGaABO
http://bayimg.com/DaEkHAABO
Oh, and to double check the resolution, just take a picture, save it to your PC and open it up with any image editing program and see for yourself.
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Dude, when was the last time you really cleaned?

another big factor of picture quality is the sensor size...
most people down know this but the bigger teh sensor the better the picture quality...
that is why a dslr with a big sensor though it may have a 3 MP pixel size will alwasy be better than a point and shoot thats 8 MP
this gets into photography .. but basicly craming more pixels into a same sized sensor will seldom yield better results ... just maybe allow you to blow up the picture a bit more thats it...
having said that i think the camera on the athena is excellent compared to other phones of the nature

I disagree with the fact that len quality is the most important factor.... Len is very important but tt is when you r using something with a gd sensor.... the image processor and sensor.... b it cmos or ccd will
b the one that makes the most difference when it comes to image quality.......
Calavaro said:
The 4 most important factors in photography: Skill, Lens quality, lens quality, lens quality.
And you did realize that when you use the 3 MP mode, there is no zoom available?
A typical 3 MP "Super fine" image will be around 900-1400 KB depending on colors and detail of the object/situation you photograph. A "Fine" photo will land around 450-750 KB.
There is no noticeable difference between "Fine" and "Super fine" modes except in close up, high contrast photos.
I have attached 2 photos for your comparison. Yes, the camera is of poor quality as seen by these 2 images.
http://bayimg.com/DAEKGaABO
http://bayimg.com/DaEkHAABO
Oh, and to double check the resolution, just take a picture, save it to your PC and open it up with any image editing program and see for yourself.
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bLiTz^ said:
I disagree with the fact that len quality is the most important factor.... Len is very important but tt is when you r using something with a gd sensor.... the image processor and sensor.... b it cmos or ccd will
b the one that makes the most difference when it comes to image quality.......
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sensor is imp ... but like i said its sensor size...
and being how most cell phones are small... you cant fit a big sensor in it... so image quality willbe sub par always...

you made me laugh out loud with that comment....you're right!!
for gods sake calavaro if you dont want to dust, just blow that dust away.......sneeze or something!!
of course you wanted it there for effect!?!?
in keeping w/ the thread though, i have a trion w/ a 2 mp and it is the best i've had in all my pda/phones...how does the advantage compare to that camera? anyone??
dan

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you made me laugh out loud with that comment....you're right!!
for gods sake calavaro if you dont want to dust, just blow that dust away.......sneeze or something!!
of course you wanted it there for effect!?!?
in keeping w/ the thread though, i have a trion w/ a 2 mp and it is the best i've had in all my pda/phones...how does the advantage compare to that camera? anyone??
dan
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Can't remember if the Trion is the same as the Hermes?! If it is, I had a Hermes and loved the camera...for a PPC, but I rate the Athena camera slightly ahead in every way.

i do find the athena camera superior to every other camera phone i have seen...
i especially like the focus... it definately makes the picture quite al ot sharper
any other camera with a fixed focal length produces far inferior results...
the reason is because it is fixed at infinity ... so it doesnt have to focus necessarily ...
basicly becaused of a fixed focal length at infinity you get a much softer picture...
and it is a common known fact among photographers the infinity focal length produces sub par results ...
for example they dont use the infinity focal length to take landscape pictures... it really depends per lens but they use a dif formula to calculate the best length...
the long and the short a variable focal lens will top a fixed focal length always...
in short if you cant focus ur lens like most pda phones athenas is better...

Haha. I do dust. I live in a 3rd world country with massive traffic in the center of a big-ass city. I even have maids helping out. That's the best that can be done on a day to day basis. So how about, you know, focus on the issue at hand?
No matter how you look at it, a camera on a phone will never be as good as even the simplest point-and-shoot camera. Yes, quality has improved, but it's still way behind.
So what's up with those red lines at the top left corner? about half the pictures I take has this "effect". Seems to happen mostly in high light conditions.

leoni1980 said:
I've got an N95 and its camera isn't much better in my opinion, though it copes with moving subjects slightly better and video is VASTLY superior. I prefer B&W shots on the Ameo though. The flash on the Ameo is much brighter too - I still don't understand why HTC don't provide an automated flash function though - very annoying!
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The N95 indeed has a poor quality STILL capture, however the VIDEO capability is amazing.

Calavaro said:
Haha. I do dust. I live in a 3rd world country with massive traffic in the center of a big-ass city. I even have maids helping out. That's the best that can be done on a day to day basis. So how about, you know, focus on the issue at hand?
No matter how you look at it, a camera on a phone will never be as good as even the simplest point-and-shoot camera. Yes, quality has improved, but it's still way behind.
So what's up with those red lines at the top left corner? about half the pictures I take has this "effect". Seems to happen mostly in high light conditions.
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This is becaues of teh sensor size i mentioned before ..
its just not possible unless you want to carry a huge phone... (thickness)
and though the athena is big its really not that thick...

i really don't get it. most of the comments posted praise the Athena camera. Personally i think the camera is pretty good and sharp and the fact it can produce a 3mp photo is excellent.. BUT.. after using it for 2 months.. it is only great for outdoor and scenery shots (or if your subject does not move too much). in a NORMAL (and i say normal as in if you are in doors and the lighting condition is considered very good) indoor situation, if your subject just moves a little.. the whole picture becomes blur.. try this.. take a shot outdoor while u shake ur camera.. (result.. decent picture)... go indoor and move your camera.. (result.. sucks)..
i for one bought the phone to also take pictures of my kid especially when we go out shopping.. but the camera feature simply cannot make it..
question: when indoors.. the camera is like perpetually in night mode (i mean everything is like in slow motion.. jerky..) weird?!?!? even if i am using my old xda ii, it does not do this.. why oh why?
i do understand what most of u guys are saying about a weak sensor.. but i for one is a disappointed customer.. a phone with such a powerful cpu yet the picture and video quality is terrible.. sigh...

Is droid's 2 camera the same crappy module found in the original droid?

Is the camera used on the droid 2 the same as the original droid? droid's camera has got to be one the WORST cameras ive tried awful quality and slow

I never owned an original droid but I have been surprised at how good the images on my D2 look. They're still not at the level of a dedicated camera, of course, but they are miles above what I had before--a Samsung Omnia. Holy crap, now THAT was a terrible camera... I cringe just thinking about it.

yeah the droid 2 camera is one of the high points of the phone except you can't zoom

ljbaumer said:
yeah the droid 2 camera is one of the high points of the phone except you can't zoom
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Use the volume buttons...it can zoom zoom zoom

can u guys post some samples? btw heres what engadget had to say about droidd's 2 camera: "Motorola seems to have glossed over the camera without much thought... it's still 5 megapixels with a max video capture resolution of 720 x 480 (in other words, 480p). The original Droid has a famously bad shooter, and we regret to say the Droid 2 doesn't seem to be much better -- autofocus is still noisy and slow, macro mode doesn't really work, and images are often hazy and heavily artifacted. "

goliathvt said:
I never owned an original droid but I have been surprised at how good the images on my D2 look. They're still not at the level of a dedicated camera, of course, but they are miles above what I had before--a Samsung Omnia. Holy crap, now THAT was a terrible camera... I cringe just thinking about it.
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I totally disagree. I think the Omnia camera is much better than the D2. In order for me to get decent pics on the D2 I have to take the pics in really good lighting. I have taken pics in almost total darkness with the Omnia and they still looked good.
The first pic was taken with the Omnia, the 2nd with the Droid 2, the 3rd with the Droid 2 plus the Vignette software set to velvia, which made the pic a lot better.
The first 2 were taken one after the other in the same room with the same light, no flash on either. Though I think I had changed the settings on the D2 camera trying to get a better picture. I may have changed the ISO .

pool_shark said:
I totally disagree. I think the Omnia camera is much better than the D2. In order for me to get decent pics on the D2 I have to take the pics in really good lighting. I have taken pics in almost total darkness with the Omnia and they still looked good.
The first pic was taken with the Omnia, the 2nd with the Droid 2, the 3rd with the Droid 2 plus the Vignette software set to velvia, which made the pic a lot better.
The first 2 were taken one after the other in the same room with the same light, no flash on either. Though I think I had changed the settings on the D2 camera trying to get a better picture. I may have changed the ISO .
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that droid pic loks AWFUL :/ , im surprised at how much it looks with vignete :/

I like the D2 camera...
Even after reading the negative camera reviews, I really like it. I take pictures of my newborn daughter all the time. I use it in standard mode, b/w, and with the flash in low light. I have never had the washed out results that you see in the above attachment. I have attached a pic using the panorama function in my neighborhood. Really surprised at how easy it is to use. I agree that it should have been update in the D2 since the D1, especially with 720p recording, but I will keep it.

Chad_Petree said:
that droid pic loks AWFUL :/ , im surprised at how much it looks with vignete :/
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I have a few more with the D2 in good lighting and they are actually pretty good, but the key is the lighting.
Here is one.

Attached are some photos I've taken with mine. Keep in mind XDA resizes images to about 90kb. At full resolution, these look even better.

jamiedhouse said:
Even after reading the negative camera reviews, I really like it. I take pictures of my newborn daughter all the time. I use it in standard mode, b/w, and with the flash in low light. I have never had the washed out results that you see in the above attachment. I have attached a pic using the panorama function in my neighborhood. Really surprised at how easy it is to use. I agree that it should have been update in the D2 since the D1, especially with 720p recording, but I will keep it.
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that pic looks effing good, you almost convinced me until i saw the pics from these guys x.x
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Attached are some photos I've taken with mine. Keep in mind XDA resizes images to about 90kb. At full resolution, these look even better.
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I have a few more with the D2 in good lighting and they are actually pretty good, but the key is the lighting.
Here is one.
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You did read where he said that xda resizes them, therefore the bad quality, right? lol

kwheel596 said:
You did read where he said that xda resizes them, therefore the bad quality, right? lol
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they should look even better in smaller size

Not dimensional shrink, file size shrink - he said they resize them to 90k.

I've found that in my testing, if you take a picture at 5mp and then resize to about 1024x768, the pictures look pretty good (unless it's in low light).
It's when you blow up the 5mp picture to 100% that you see the grain and noise.
I didn't like it at first but it's growing on me

It 's impossible. That Droid2's pic is awful. I can't believe it

SGS2 Camera

Anyeone disappointed with the SGS2 camera? Its ok with normal photos, but then when you try zooming it, the photos look atrocious! its all grainy and no detail at all! is there a fix for this? I have disabled touchwiz and am using ADW...
I didnt seem to have this problem on my nexus one..

I dont see a point of using digital zoom in SGS2 or any other similar phone. It just cripples image quality, nothing else. Personaly I have never used it. And no. Im not dissapointed, Im quite impressed by the built in camera and its recording capabilities. If you wanted to zoom that much, you should have bought standalone camera with optical zoom. Phone is still phone you know.
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enzografix said:
I dont see a point of using digital zoom in SGS2 or any other similar phone. It just cripples image quality, nothing else. Personaly I have never used it. And no. Im not dissapointed, Im quite impressed by the built in camera and its recording capabilities. If you wanted to zoom that much, you should have bought standalone camera with optical zoom. Phone is still phone you know.
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+1
jje

I have a range of rather nice dslrs like 5d mk2 ect, and I am impressed no end by cam. Video good also, best ive seen on a phone. Digital zoom is pointless and rather a consumer point than a feature. All I want to do is be able to alter aperture, android don't support this afak
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yohanevindra said:
Anyeone disappointed with the SGS2 camera? Its ok with normal photos, but then when you try zooming it, the photos look atrocious! its all grainy and no detail at all! is there a fix for this? I have disabled touchwiz and am using ADW...
I didnt seem to have this problem on my nexus one..
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Optical zoom is the only good zoom. My tz10 has 12x optical and digital. Even if it had no optical you wouldn't switch digital zoom on as it just pixelates the image.
I'd be impressed if I was shown a camera that didn't ruin the picture with dz
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Like everyone else said, no point in using the zoom, it's worth nothing...

yohanevindra said:
Anyeone disappointed with the SGS2 camera? Its ok with normal photos, but then when you try zooming it, the photos look atrocious! its all grainy and no detail at all! is there a fix for this? I have disabled touchwiz and am using ADW...
I didnt seem to have this problem on my nexus one..
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I think up to 2x digital zoom, the photo quality is still usable. Note: more higher ISO value, you will get more grainy & less detail photo. The digital zoom may only apply for low ISO setting only

I think the picture quality of the SGS2 is extremely good for a smart phone, after 2 weeks of use.
It's better than many real cameras i know of, which I wont cite (as fanboi wars aren't all that interesting )
if you zoom zoom and zoom all cameras will show grain. the grain it shows is always different and the one of the sgs2 is actually pretty good. I know many professional photographs who actually zoom like that and if they can't zoom as far as their 12MP camera they say it's poorer quality. That's just poor judgement (specially when its their job...).
Of course the resolution of 8MP is lower than 12MP for example, but resolution != quality. Zooming for such pics is also utterly pointless, unless you plan to print a huge poster from your phone camera shots.. but even then, 8MP isn't all that bad.
For everything else, theres huge 2000E+ DSLRs.

genus said:
I think up to 2x digital zoom, the photo quality is still usable. Note: more higher ISO value, you will get more grainy & less detail photo. The digital zoom may only apply for low ISO setting only
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Usable = subjective, depends on use
as a contact pic maybe
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Camera not very good

Everyone says the camera quality is one of the best features of the galaxy s but I think its pretty terrible. All pictures took look dark and don't look clear when you zoom in. Who else thinks the camera is poor on this phone
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can't confirm that. As long as there is a good light, the pictures will turn out great. Compared to other 5mpx shooters I really like the Galaxy S one.

Yep i also like the quality in comparison to other 5mp cams. what suxx is that there is no led flash, but i think we all knew that before bying this phone
Btw did you adjust settings to fine and perhaps enable stabilization mode?
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and i do not recognize sgs1 5mpx camera as good - as said especialy when it is not much light pictures comes gradient - it is ok but still should perform better
i do not recal such on my goof old lost nokia n95 with its optics
same as with gps here looks like sgs1 was assembled from som low cost parts overall
that is why i am sceptic on sgs2 (tested it few times) and looking formward to 3rd revision of samsung look onsmartphone for masses =)
(sgs got gps chip not broadcom bot lirf or something like this that performs way better but camera still records/pics gradient in dark)

hofinho said:
Yep i also like the quality in comparison to other 5mp cams. what suxx is that there is no led flash, but i think we all knew that before bying this phone
Btw did you adjust settings to fine and perhaps enable stabilization mode?
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How do I enable stabilisation mode and adjust to fine?
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seeraj15 said:
How do I enable stabilisation mode and adjust to fine?
i dunno exactly cause im on cm7 and thus cannot look it up right now, but it should be somewhere in the settings of the camera app (you know where you can decide where if you want to save photos on internal or external sd etc.)
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I heard the cm7 camera quality is worse than stock, have you noticed that?

hofinho said:
seeraj15 said:
How do I enable stabilisation mode and adjust to fine?
i dunno exactly cause im on cm7 and thus cannot look it up right now, but it should be somewhere in the settings of the camera app (you know where you can decide where if you want to save photos on internal or external sd etc.)
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I heard the camera quality on cm7 is worse than on stock; have you noticed that?
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Are you viewing the pictures on the phone in gallery? Or in another app on your phone? Or on your computer?
The reason this is important is that when using gallery app, our phones only loads a half resolution version image (to make it easier and snappier to handle)! You can download other image viewer apps in the market that view the full resolution on phone and therefore allow better zooming in to the resulting images.
Also the pictures therefore look better on the computer too, as this also using the full resolution on the image.
So, your problem might be more the gallery app at fault rather than the camera itself. Do some tests of your own to see if this is true.
I am no expert on this topic, but I remember reading this somewhere, and my tests confirm it appears to be true! (YMMV!)
Mike
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seeraj15 said:
Everyone says the camera quality is one of the best features of the galaxy s but I think its pretty terrible. All pictures took look dark and don't look clear when you zoom in. Who else thinks the camera is poor on this phone
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I'm sure that you must have some of the settings wrong on the camera App, because I have loaded pics to my computer, cropped the unwanted portion and printed on A4 paper. The resulting print was as good as I ever get with any 5mp camera.
I have also sent both pictures and video to my 55" TV screen from my SGS, using Allshare, and the quality is on a par with HD TV.
I agree that you get more versatility with a dedicated camera, but you've got to remember that the SGS is a phone with a camera as an accessory, not a camera that makes phone calls.
Finally, why do people complain about the lack of LED flash, at best, it's only useful up to a metre, but we all knew that the SGS did not have LED camera flash before we bought the phone.

i remember my good old nokia n95 making pictures same quality - and that was 3mpx

Geryatrix said:
I'm sure that you must have some of the settings wrong on the camera App, because I have loaded pics to my computer, cropped the unwanted portion and printed on A4 paper. The resulting print was as good as I ever get with any 5mp camera.
I have also sent both pictures and video to my 55" TV screen from my SGS, using Allshare, and the quality is on a par with HD TV.
I agree that you get more versatility with a dedicated camera, but you've got to remember that the SGS is a phone with a camera as an accessory, not a camera that makes phone calls.
Finally, why do people complain about the lack of LED flash, at best, it's only useful up to a metre, but we all knew that the SGS did not have LED camera flash before we bought the phone.
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What settings should I have then?
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restere defaults in settings =) and you might want to add picture stabilization

$omator said:
i remember my good old nokia n95 making pictures same quality - and that was 3mpx
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N95 had 5mp dude i also had this phone and pics were really good, but anyway pics taken outside while its sunny with galaxy s show even better results in my opinion
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it was 5? hehe well anyways pictures were much better, especialy while not much lights, sgs got some gradient clearly seen while n95 was just dark

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It's good enough for me. Just make sure you are on 5mpx my phone likes to go back to 0.3mpx for some reason. oh and you should at least be on 2.2, heard that produces better pictures

The notes camera

I just bought a new camera to tote around mainly for my wife. I thought it was a pretty good camera, it's a fuji 14mp point and shoot. I've had one in the past which was pretty good.
Anyway, my point being my freaking camera on my note takes much better pictures than this camera does. I would think a dedicated camera would be the winner but Samsung did a good job here.
I've seen threads past complaining about the notes camera but mine takes great pics. Needless to sat wife still asks for the phone to take pics. That was a waste of money
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Try comparing the two in conditions with poor lighting, particularly in any scenario that would require a flash or longer exposure.

When it comes to camera's, opposed to what alot of people think, the amount of megapixels you have isn't important at all. What's more important is the lens, and how big it is. The lighting, shutter time etc..
Just like knightnz said, the fuji would probably come out on top in "harder" to capture pictures.
Still I have to agree, the Note takes amazing pictures.

Yea I haven't tried the note much in low light or night pics so I'll have to check it out. I understand and have always read mp mean nothing so what is the point of these higher mp counts? I mean they are coming out with a friggin 41mp camera soon on a phone at that! Why the need for high mp if they don't affect quality?
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It is just for marketing purpose.
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sprintuser1977 said:
Yea I haven't tried the note much in low light or night pics so I'll have to check it out. I understand and have always read mp mean nothing so what is the point of these higher mp counts? I mean they are coming out with a friggin 41mp camera soon on a phone at that! Why the need for high mp if they don't affect quality?
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It's not like the phone takes a 2GB 41 mp jpeg lol. It's a new type of technology that combines pixles in such a way that it creates a 5-8mp file with lossless 4x zoom and greatly reduced noise.
The *real* breakthrough is the size of the lense and the amount of light it lets in. I've seen some sample pictures and it has a mean DOF effect and almost no noise.
Back to the point. The notes camera is great and it is better than a few point and shoots that my friends have, I just wish there was image stabilisation but that's just software right?

a wise man once said:
"The best Camera to have, is the one that's is in your hand."

I havnt been too impressed with the camera.. It is pretty good for a phone but I miss how fast my iPhone snapped a pic compared to this.. Not saying it's bad though
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James Harrison said:
Back to the point. The notes camera is great and it is better than a few point and shoots that my friends have, I just wish there was image stabilisation but that's just software right?
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Well, the best image stabilisation is actually hardware. It is a prism that moves based on a gyroscope to compensate for all camera movements. Effectively it keeps the physical focus point where it was and moves it slowly to where it now is, avoiding the quick shake caused by your movements. Software can only compensate slightly by moving the physical focus around in a similar way in a larger recorded image.
The best I have ever had is in my Sony HandyCam. It was the bees knees when I bought it many years ago. Full 1080p video with a superb and huge Carl Zeiss lens. Dark shots were great and better than most other cameras, and it even does a fair IR night mode. The videos are very stable as long as you do not do any large swings. The 10x optical zoom is also fantastic.
Now my Note stands in, but it will never replace the HC because of the poorer dark videos, lack of zoom, and the complete lack of stabilisation. Having said that, it is used a hell of a lot more as a camera and video cam, because it is always with me!

jb9217a said:
I havnt been too impressed with the camera.. It is pretty good for a phone but I miss how fast my iPhone snapped a pic compared to this.. Not saying it's bad though
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Once ics comes in, u will get 0 shutter lag ! much faster than iphone...

Is there anyway we can shut camera click sound ?

The camera is good enough.
But when you see your note camera taking better pictures than stand alone point and shoot snapper, you know you have crap point and shoot camera or the person taking photographs is not taking pictures properly.
Under good light conditions, these modern snappers will match the P&S sensor quality if you know what you are doing. Picture quality varies greatly by simple choice of settings by the person taking pictures on Note. Leave it at auto and you will not get the best results in tricky conditions. You also need steady hands to get good snaps from Note camera.
But overall, its good enough to be good casual snapper.
But if you start comparing Note against even older good compact cameras like Panasonic ZS7 (which is now outdated), its not even close. These point and shoot cameras will outperform Note under any condition. Leave alone more expensive and also cameras with newer better sensors available today.
The good thing about Note camera is that it takes more than decent pictures with relatively accurate colour reproduction unlike some other phone cameras.

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jeromepearce said:
..lack of zoom..
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There is a rather crappy digital zoom that happens when you press the volume button and swipe your finger across the slider that appears.. like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7abTRUO4WQ
(ignore the girl lol)
In other areas: I realise now that the stabilisation is hardware but you'd be SO suprised at how much software effects the video quality. I have 2 examples.
My old HD2 on windows mobile or android had TERRIBLE low light quality, frame rate dropped down to 9/10 fps, image noise was just unacceptable. -->
Updated to windows phone 7, and low light was quality is insane now. did not drop a single frame. The quality even went up to full 720p (which was not possible before)
I've even made some short movies with it because the low light was so good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZP68dAtn14 and the non "8mm style" shots in here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JQVeeZL4aQ
(sorry not trying to drop videos here but just so you get my point)
Second example is my transformer prime. Same thing. On Honeycomb terrible fps in low light and a whole heap of noise ---> ICS update and the camera was a different beast.
My point is, software is very important in mobile cameras. Once we get ICS, we can start complaining or praising properly

katyarevishal said:
Once ics comes in, u will get 0 shutter lag ! much faster than iphone...
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Dear katyarevishal,
I was hoping that till trying ICS leak but shutter lag is still same as GB... Losing my hope... Thats why i am using Fast Burst Camera app to catch the moment but limited to 1 mpx...
Kind regards...
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PROTOCHIP said:
Dear katyarevishal,
I was hoping that till trying ICS leak but shutter lag is still same as GB... Losing my hope... Thats why i am using Fast Burst Camera app to catch the moment but limited to 1 mpx...
Kind regards...
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thats because its a leak and hasnt got the fully working driverset