Is there a way to increase the 6800s displayed resolution for remote desktop mobile. Tried all the settings & need to at least double res. Don't see any reg entries that deal with this.
I'd like to second this question.
My wish would be for a remote desktop client that could "zoom out" to view a larger resolution, similar to how the Opera Mini or Picsel browsers work.
Have you guys tried LogMeIn dot com ? Unless I'm confused about your need, this remote client does what you're looking for. It runs my desktop at 640x480 and has a "fit to screen" size option (and 50%, 75%, 100% zoom). Performance is sluggish but usable over EVDO.
As crazy as this sounds, I now surf the internet almost exclusively through logmein.com because I honest to goodness think it's faster than regular surfing. Anyone with a Mogul/Titan that hasn't tried logmein.com and orb are really missing out.
cheesiest said:
Have you guys tried LogMeIn dot com ? Unless I'm confused about your need, this remote client does what you're looking for. It runs my desktop at 640x480 and has a "fit to screen" size option (and 50%, 75%, 100% zoom). Performance is sluggish but usable over EVDO.
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rdp mobile also runs the host at 640x480, we were hoping for a client that would run the host at a higher resolution
I see, I did misread the question a bit. I agree that higher resolution on the desktop side is sometimes desirable. Like rivera I find myself surfing through logmein (doing it right now), but there are a few web sites that assume 800x600 or higher. Looks like I'm a +1 to the original poster now.
I'll try editing rdp mobile exe, see if we can get anywhere.
I tried logmein. I get the PDA site and when I go to the remote desktop or whatever the function it is to go to the desktop it always goes back to the same thing. I could see my files though. Does anyone know what exactly Im suppose to do to see the desktop.Thanks in advance.
three letters for you all:
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VNC is the open source remote desktop client. Your device's resolution is always going to be 320x240 because that's physically how many dots there are. However, many VNC clients for PPC allow you to zoom in/out.
Google it.
ya we know about VNC but i just prefer if i dont have anything external installed. rather used the ones built in the system. and i think RDM runs really fast and really well if they have higher resolution.
Nyditot
http://www.nyditot.com/Home.asp
Works with WM6 on the Mogul. Make sure you select FIT WIDTH in the options before rebooting and do not select "restart on reset" as you will not be able to get out of a loop if the program messes up the phone. Text is harder to read, and the Today screen looks iffy, but we browsing is better.
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Is there any other Internet Browsers for ppc 2003 other than
the standerd one ?
have you tryed any others and what did you think?
i quite fancy the idea of a browser in landscape rarther than portrade
display.
http://park15.wakwak.com/~ftx/ftxe/
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http://park15.wakwak.com/~ftx/ftxe/
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SouthwayCorp.MultiIE.v3.0
Don't change your browser, enhance it with MultiIE! such as multiple windows, full screen mode and hardware button mapping
http://www.southwaycorp.net/
NetFront v3.1 for PPC2003 with JV-Lite2 Rel1.00
Microbrowser for PocketPC2003 with JV-Lite2 supports rich functions such as Smart-Fit rendering, Multi-Window
http://www.access.co.jp/english/index.html
PIEPlus 1.2
PIEPlus adds extreme power to Pocket Internet Explorer. It has lots of features like optimizing web page to fit in screen and more.
http://www.reensoft.com/
Netfront is very sophisticated but its file is too big, I use multiie. PIEPlus is good also.
i would like opera or Mozilla for pocketpc
i use standard pie 2003 and nyditot v3.22 and spb pocket plus
that whay i can get landscape, multi windows ect... its alright
is there another browser besides Ftx? one that is stand-alone, cause i think "pie" is way too slow
ftxbrowser seems to be quicker on my xda1 than explorer.
ThunderHawk
You can try ThunderHawk, but it's on a subscription basis.
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You can try ThunderHawk, but it's on a subscription basis.
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I remember these things from my Palm days: A lot of these PDA-based subsciption services work by browsing through their proxy. This proxy will then resize the images and pack all the 'page prerequisites' in one compressed package so that loading tme is minimized. Al of this is really what you want, but quality varies with these places.
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I remember these things from my Palm days: A lot of these PDA-based subsciption services work by browsing through their proxy. This proxy will then resize the images and pack all the 'page prerequisites' in one compressed package so that loading tme is minimized. Al of this is really what you want, but quality varies with these places.
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In terms of quality, ThunderHawk may be the best. It's from BitStream, which actually develops fonts. You view the web pages in landscape mode, and though it might be mighty small compared to PIE, the image and font qualities are simply one of the best. I'm quite happy with it during my subscription, and since it just sends the updated portions of the screen, I also save on my GPRS costs . There are restrictions, of course. Like, it doesn't work well with Jave, and multiple screens. You really have to weigh the pros and cons before making your decision on which browser to purchase :wink: .
i have been looking for something similar but have had no luck... what i am looking for is a particular option...
use the left and right buttons along with the page scroll up/down so i can do page back/forward....
fxtpbrowser is goog small footprint and has the option to map buttons not the left and right... would be nice if u can keep ur thumb near one place and do it all rather than jump up and down to reach 2 diff sets of buttons...
any ideas???
thunderhawk
thunderhawk is not yet compatible with xda2
I have used the TSC in WM5 and it works fine, now thinking I would like full screen so looking at sl9 and Vijays full screen TSC, but I keep seeing lots about VNC too? What is it, any better than TSC or any worse?
Answers on a postcard please, or here will do, thanks
Simon
they work differntly, VNC is bitmap based ie it paints the picture of the remote screen, where TSC is vector based, it dosent paint the screen, it uses coordinates of items etc, ie, desktop colour, startmenu, its all cached on your machine, so in effect, the more you use it the faster it will get.
so if bandwidth is no issue then its your choice of what you use, but where there are speed issues, then tsc will probably be far more efficient.
i use TSC clients for, probably, 14hrs a day at hone and at work, and at work using servers at home, all TSC based and Tivoli another bitmap based product we use appears to suffer greatly compared to TSC, you know, were all tsc'ing to home whilst were at work, and its 10 to 1 faster than tivoli.
its only my theories based on usage
I would mostly agree - TSC is more GDI object based, client server, where the PDA does most of the rendering. VNC is mostly brute force screen copying.
The beauty of VNC is that you can use it against many more devices - Win95, Linux, Macs etc. TSC needs a dedicated terminal service on the other end that may not even be installable on your home machine.
Could someone please point me to sl9's full screen TSC client. I cannot find it anywhere.
Thanks
-Rob
what also works like a charm is logmein.com. you need to install software on your desktop, then login the logmein page on your pda and you're clear to go. the software on the MDA also autoscales the desktop to 640*480 (and back when you're finished). free aswell.
I use logmein to surf etc when at work, perfect to have an 5 Mb connection available on my MDA
I generally agree with what has been said. Most of my work involves remote administration of servers. I use as a first choice on desktop a program called Radmin, unfortunately this is not available on PPC. Radmin is very similar to VNC but is much faster and also supports file transfer and command prompt only.
But what has not been said about this type of software, VNC/Radmin is it allows you to run multiple clients viewing the same session. This is great for training and seeking help on a problem with third parties. So i do sometimes use VNC on the Universal, but only if i need to share a session.
TSC on the other hand will open a fresh session and allow, depending on the version of OS on the destination machine allow multiple independant sessions. I do use a lot of TSC sessions on my desktop as well.
Regarding letmein never really appealed to me. Dont really want a third party running my sessions for me and to be honest see no advantage in it. But i guess for me I have external ip adreses everywhere so i guess that helps. I can log to my hone PC or office and othe rsite networks from any where in the world over a 2/3g connection on the universal anyway.
But maybe i am missing something regarding using letmein to gain speed, if you have an office network with 5mb connectionwhy not just connect directly to your office on the TSC on the univrersal, why do you need letmein? the main portal i use for TSC is a server in a COLO of mine with a burstable GB ethernet connection directly into a tier 1 ISP and the bottleneck here is actually the speed it takes for the screen to be drwawn on the universal and the connection to the server.
Also be warned that TSC on the 2/3g connection can chew a lot of BW. When i was doing a lot of this i was getting a new orange connection every 3 months and getting the free 1gb per month for the first 3 months with orange(£25 permonth). on a sim only deal with no phone on the lowest 3g package. Worked out as £55 per month when you add the 9 months at £10 for 1gb per moonth with 200 free mins. Then after 3 months change it to a 2g off peak only deal at £10 per month. or use it as a second phone.
At any time i might have upto 6 remote sessions active, but it can get very weird when running full screen TSC on your desktop as you some times end up in a lop going from one server to another then another and back to the first one again with out realising. It has the similar effect to lokiing into one mirror with an identical mirror behind it and creating a series of cascading views. Can be abit wierd sometimes, especially when you start telnetting from one command prompt on one machine into something like a cisco and then right back to where you started. I know this sounds crazy but if you have a work station with twin 21" lcd monitors with 1200x1600 displays and 4 gb of ram at the end of a 12 hour session I often end up with in the order of 60+ windows open over my destop. And that does not include the windows open on all of the remote desktops!
I think i lost it a bit in the post there towards the end but i think you get the picture.
Charlie
I like some of the new features of Remote Desktop Client for WM6, however, it still lacks a simple feature that i want / need. ( at least i cannot figure it out )
I would like a true full screen client that will actually display my entire remote desktop and if I want to zoom in, it allows me to zoom to where i point the stylus. WM6 version has this but in reverse. I would like the whole window to display a super small version of my whole desktop and if i click somewhere, it would zoom there.
does anyone have any suggetions of software that would do this. I do not mind running a software specific client on my desktop machine.
RDP with your features
Use GoToMyPC. It allows for just this kind of functionality. I liked it, but will be trying the RDP in WM6 to see if that will suffice for me
Logmein is pretty good and free as well. You can scroll around the screen by tapping and holding near the edge of the display. You can also zoom out to see the entire screen shrunk to the display size.
Make sure that you download a file for the PPC (don't recall where I found it, likely in the forums...), or it'll just cycle thru the login screen.
It can be downloaded using the PPC's Pocket IE.
www.logmein.com
I'm running WM6 (and WM5 behaved the same way) Remote Desktop and need the desktop resolution of 1024x768. I understand I will do some scrolling because of the native 640x480. I'll just do quite a bit less than on my 8525 (TyTn).
The 8525 and the Athena give me the same server desktop size. On the 8525 I get scroll bars to scroll around the 640x480 virtual desktop using it's 320x240 screen. On the Athena I get the 640x480 desktop and no scrolling. Nice but since the program on the server needs 1024x768 I'm still stuck. Is there anyway to set the resolution like on the desktop version of the Remote Desktop Client? The only option is "fit remote desktop to screen" on the Athena.
I monitor multiple servers and some of the management tools need bigger than 640x480. My whole organization is Remote Desktop so installing another remote control system is not an option.
you can use vnc insted
Can't use VNC
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....... the management tools need bigger than 640x480. My whole organization is Remote Desktop so installing another remote control system is not an option.
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I have 20 servers in our environment and installing VNC would be a chore not to mention. I don't like to install ANYTHING on production servers. Hence the need for 1024x768 in RDP.
It's odd that 320x240 allows you to scroll to 640x480 but no other resolution is available for 640x480.
By the way I love the old VNC. I used to use it on my PDQ Smartphone by Kyocera running Palm OS in 2001. Back then it would allow scaling. It seems silly that RDP can't do the same.
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I have 20 servers in our environment and installing VNC would be a chore not to mention. I don't like to install ANYTHING on production servers. Hence the need for 1024x768 in RDP.
It's odd that 320x240 allows you to scroll to 640x480 but no other resolution is available for 640x480.
By the way I love the old VNC. I used to use it on my PDQ Smartphone by Kyocera running Palm OS in 2001. Back then it would allow scaling. It seems silly that RDP can't do the same.
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qvga screens have to allow scrolling otherwise the application would be unusable! Is there any way to scale your applications at the server end to be compliant with VGA resolution? what issues does it throw up? As far as I know VNC is your only alternative. You could try running remote desktop in portrait mode to see if that helps your cause any....
shame there's no application to allow resolution interpolation (as seen on 800 by 480 oqo UMPCs) this might 'trick' the remote desktop client into thinking it was running on a 1024 by 768 display and scale it accordingly.
I think I'm talking rubbish. Anyway maybe remote desktop client has a set resolution that it scales to: i.e. 640*480.
NYDITOT
I know Nyditot used to work on my ipaq but it's functionality on WM 6 is another story.
Does anyone have any experience with it on the Athena other than:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1379191&postcount=1
The following link gives hope:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1787128&postcount=11
The mocha client mentions that they didn't use higher resoutions because of licensing concerns and Microsoft. Bummer.
Vijay555 says the 640x480 resolution is hardcoded.
Does anyone have a microsoft contact to find out if there is an update coming in WM 6.1 / WM 7?
I had this working fine with the latest nyditot (you have to reboot with the keyboard disconnected) but dropped it when I went to the far far far superior Z2software remote 2PC
i used vnc from desktops but tinyvnc client connected without problems to windows RDP.(but colors is little shaped compared to ms rdp client)
in my sight your problem is good rdp client software.. try vnc, sources available maybe you can even find or implement rdp desktop image software zoom on pda.
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I did this yesterday, I RDP'd to a PC and then from there RDP'd to the server I needed access to. The PC connected to the server with a 1024 x 768 connection, so with scrolling I was able to move around the remote server's screen.
Not perfect by any means, but it does the job if needed.
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I had this working fine with the latest nyditot (you have to reboot with the keyboard disconnected) but dropped it when I went to the far far far superior Z2software remote 2PC
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where you using Real VGA? If so did you have to go back to standard resolution reset then start nyditot then reset?
I have the same problem. My servers use 1024x768 resolution and many things dont work well with only a 640x480 desktop (which is what I get with Remote Desktop Mobile). I did try the mocha one and it works a little better, but only allows up to 800x600. I need one that supports at least 1024x768, anyone know of a RDP mobile client that would support 1024x768?
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I have the same problem. My servers use 1024x768 resolution and many things dont work well with only a 640x480 desktop (which is what I get with Remote Desktop Mobile). I did try the mocha one and it works a little better, but only allows up to 800x600. I need one that supports at least 1024x768, anyone know of a RDP mobile client that would support 1024x768?
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Yes www.z2software.com supports what ever res your computer is running and gives you the option to zoom in to 640X480 or closer
@hammermedia, yes I was using real VGA it worked well all you had to do, when first activiating nyditot reboot with the keyboard disconnected ! and when you get into Remote desktop go into the settings and tick "FULL SCREEN" and "FIT REMOTE DESKTOP TO SCREEN"
I will suggest to check the LOGMEIN professional solutions ( www.logmein.com, the IT reach solution or the PRO solution. May be you will discover also that the FREE solution is enought ).
Test them for free.
I managed a medium sized IT company and the remote production machines management is ALWAYS a pain in.... and no solution is the "final solution".
In Logmein I love the resolution settings, (I use 800x600 resized on athena) and the settings to improve the speed and screen size on-the-fly
In 1024x768 on the athena I use the external mouse and just moving it in the corner the screen it scrolls in the direction needed, and is really fast.
The client is an IE or pocket IE plugin (firefox client available)
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I will suggest to check the LOGMEIN professional solutions ( www.logmein.com, the IT reach solution or the PRO solution. May be you will discover also that the FREE solution is enought ).
Test them for free.
I managed a medium sized IT company and the remote production machines management is ALWAYS a pain in.... and no solution is the "final solution".
In Logmein I love the resolution settings, (I use 800x600 resized on athena) and the settings to improve the speed and screen size on-the-fly
In 1024x768 on the athena I use the external mouse and just moving it in the corner the screen it scrolls in the direction needed, and is really fast.
The client is an IE or pocket IE plugin (firefox client available)
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Another thumbs-up on LogMeIn. I use the free version for home and the "Pro" version for work, which allows more features like file transfer. It allows resetting the resolution on the host, then scaling the display (auto or a certain percent) on the Athena so you can get optimal control. The touchscreen sends mouse events. Very usable.
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Yes www.z2software.com supports what ever res your computer is running and gives you the option to zoom in to 640X480 or closer
@hammermedia, yes I was using real VGA it worked well all you had to do, when first activiating nyditot reboot with the keyboard disconnected ! and when you get into Remote desktop go into the settings and tick "FULL SCREEN" and "FIT REMOTE DESKTOP TO SCREEN"
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Just checked it out, it doesn't look like it's RDP. Are there any RDP mobile clients that support 1024x768 resolution?
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Just checked it out, it doesn't look like it's RDP. Are there any RDP mobile clients that support 1024x768 resolution?
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it's true that it does not use MS remote desktop, it uses there own s/ware but it is truly excellent ! far superior to the MS stuff
Do any solutions offer remote sound so that I can hear my pc's sound on my phone? I've tried LogMeIn, the Z2 app, and the normal MS RD. None of them will actually let me hear the sound of my desktop (i.e. if I play a music file). LogMeIn says it supports remote sound on the Pro version, but I tried it, and it must only work with other desktop pc's and not pocket pc's.
if you want to listen to music from your computer at home, I suggest you install ORB as it is free of charges and excellent ! (+ you can watch videos from home too)
The sound quality over RDP is poor and scratchy, it is also buffered badly
How about this one: http://www.zatelnet.com/zadesktop/main.php
Haven't tried it so no idea, but it does say it supports 1024x768 over RDP
excellent
i have just started using LogMeIn for remote desktop, it is significantly better than RDP although requires a bit of set up.
for remote admin and access to standard windows apps from the Athena it is really very good.
Mocha
I installed the Mocha client and it works pretty good for 800x600.
The whole point of RDP is that it's standard on Windows PC's and it works well in low bandwidth much better than VNC. Don't get me wrong, I love VNC and have been using it for almost 10 years on my home PC.
However, I have a dozen Windows servers that must run 24 hours a day and I don't install ANYTHING on them if I can help it. It's a matter of stability.
I am trying to find the best combination or app for a good Remote Desktop. It needs to be able to display a dual monitor desktop.
I was using NetSupport but I am looking for something that's more reliable.
If you can use an browser based solution, I've used LogMeIn with some success. It won't show both monitors simutaneously but you are able to switch between them.
Ho'okani
Real VNC
I've always used Real VNC, quick, small, functional. It also supports dual monitors. I use it to manage 10 PCs at work - saves me getting off my arse to prove that my administrator is just being dumb.
http://www.realvnc.com/services/mobile.html
One small problem with it on WM6.5 ROMs though - if you go to the options page, the "ok" button is at the bottom right, and gets covered by the new menu bar. Generally I don't need to change the settings as the default is right for me.