Remote Desktop Resolution - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General
I'm running WM6 (and WM5 behaved the same way) Remote Desktop and need the desktop resolution of 1024x768. I understand I will do some scrolling because of the native 640x480. I'll just do quite a bit less than on my 8525 (TyTn).
The 8525 and the Athena give me the same server desktop size. On the 8525 I get scroll bars to scroll around the 640x480 virtual desktop using it's 320x240 screen. On the Athena I get the 640x480 desktop and no scrolling. Nice but since the program on the server needs 1024x768 I'm still stuck. Is there anyway to set the resolution like on the desktop version of the Remote Desktop Client? The only option is "fit remote desktop to screen" on the Athena.
I monitor multiple servers and some of the management tools need bigger than 640x480. My whole organization is Remote Desktop so installing another remote control system is not an option.
you can use vnc insted
Can't use VNC
hammermedia said:
....... the management tools need bigger than 640x480. My whole organization is Remote Desktop so installing another remote control system is not an option.
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I have 20 servers in our environment and installing VNC would be a chore not to mention. I don't like to install ANYTHING on production servers. Hence the need for 1024x768 in RDP.
It's odd that 320x240 allows you to scroll to 640x480 but no other resolution is available for 640x480.
By the way I love the old VNC. I used to use it on my PDQ Smartphone by Kyocera running Palm OS in 2001. Back then it would allow scaling. It seems silly that RDP can't do the same.
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I have 20 servers in our environment and installing VNC would be a chore not to mention. I don't like to install ANYTHING on production servers. Hence the need for 1024x768 in RDP.
It's odd that 320x240 allows you to scroll to 640x480 but no other resolution is available for 640x480.
By the way I love the old VNC. I used to use it on my PDQ Smartphone by Kyocera running Palm OS in 2001. Back then it would allow scaling. It seems silly that RDP can't do the same.
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qvga screens have to allow scrolling otherwise the application would be unusable! Is there any way to scale your applications at the server end to be compliant with VGA resolution? what issues does it throw up? As far as I know VNC is your only alternative. You could try running remote desktop in portrait mode to see if that helps your cause any....
shame there's no application to allow resolution interpolation (as seen on 800 by 480 oqo UMPCs) this might 'trick' the remote desktop client into thinking it was running on a 1024 by 768 display and scale it accordingly.
I think I'm talking rubbish. Anyway maybe remote desktop client has a set resolution that it scales to: i.e. 640*480.
NYDITOT
I know Nyditot used to work on my ipaq but it's functionality on WM 6 is another story.
Does anyone have any experience with it on the Athena other than:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1379191&postcount=1
The following link gives hope:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1787128&postcount=11
The mocha client mentions that they didn't use higher resoutions because of licensing concerns and Microsoft. Bummer.
Vijay555 says the 640x480 resolution is hardcoded.
Does anyone have a microsoft contact to find out if there is an update coming in WM 6.1 / WM 7?
I had this working fine with the latest nyditot (you have to reboot with the keyboard disconnected) but dropped it when I went to the far far far superior Z2software remote 2PC
i used vnc from desktops but tinyvnc client connected without problems to windows RDP.(but colors is little shaped compared to ms rdp client)
in my sight your problem is good rdp client software.. try vnc, sources available maybe you can even find or implement rdp desktop image software zoom on pda.
Sort of ...
I did this yesterday, I RDP'd to a PC and then from there RDP'd to the server I needed access to. The PC connected to the server with a 1024 x 768 connection, so with scrolling I was able to move around the remote server's screen.
Not perfect by any means, but it does the job if needed.
ice_coffee said:
I had this working fine with the latest nyditot (you have to reboot with the keyboard disconnected) but dropped it when I went to the far far far superior Z2software remote 2PC
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where you using Real VGA? If so did you have to go back to standard resolution reset then start nyditot then reset?
I have the same problem. My servers use 1024x768 resolution and many things dont work well with only a 640x480 desktop (which is what I get with Remote Desktop Mobile). I did try the mocha one and it works a little better, but only allows up to 800x600. I need one that supports at least 1024x768, anyone know of a RDP mobile client that would support 1024x768?
wildcard said:
I have the same problem. My servers use 1024x768 resolution and many things dont work well with only a 640x480 desktop (which is what I get with Remote Desktop Mobile). I did try the mocha one and it works a little better, but only allows up to 800x600. I need one that supports at least 1024x768, anyone know of a RDP mobile client that would support 1024x768?
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Yes www.z2software.com supports what ever res your computer is running and gives you the option to zoom in to 640X480 or closer
@hammermedia, yes I was using real VGA it worked well all you had to do, when first activiating nyditot reboot with the keyboard disconnected ! and when you get into Remote desktop go into the settings and tick "FULL SCREEN" and "FIT REMOTE DESKTOP TO SCREEN"
I will suggest to check the LOGMEIN professional solutions ( www.logmein.com, the IT reach solution or the PRO solution. May be you will discover also that the FREE solution is enought ).
Test them for free.
I managed a medium sized IT company and the remote production machines management is ALWAYS a pain in.... and no solution is the "final solution".
In Logmein I love the resolution settings, (I use 800x600 resized on athena) and the settings to improve the speed and screen size on-the-fly
In 1024x768 on the athena I use the external mouse and just moving it in the corner the screen it scrolls in the direction needed, and is really fast.
The client is an IE or pocket IE plugin (firefox client available)
sergiopi said:
I will suggest to check the LOGMEIN professional solutions ( www.logmein.com, the IT reach solution or the PRO solution. May be you will discover also that the FREE solution is enought ).
Test them for free.
I managed a medium sized IT company and the remote production machines management is ALWAYS a pain in.... and no solution is the "final solution".
In Logmein I love the resolution settings, (I use 800x600 resized on athena) and the settings to improve the speed and screen size on-the-fly
In 1024x768 on the athena I use the external mouse and just moving it in the corner the screen it scrolls in the direction needed, and is really fast.
The client is an IE or pocket IE plugin (firefox client available)
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Another thumbs-up on LogMeIn. I use the free version for home and the "Pro" version for work, which allows more features like file transfer. It allows resetting the resolution on the host, then scaling the display (auto or a certain percent) on the Athena so you can get optimal control. The touchscreen sends mouse events. Very usable.
ice_coffee said:
Yes www.z2software.com supports what ever res your computer is running and gives you the option to zoom in to 640X480 or closer
@hammermedia, yes I was using real VGA it worked well all you had to do, when first activiating nyditot reboot with the keyboard disconnected ! and when you get into Remote desktop go into the settings and tick "FULL SCREEN" and "FIT REMOTE DESKTOP TO SCREEN"
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Just checked it out, it doesn't look like it's RDP. Are there any RDP mobile clients that support 1024x768 resolution?
wildcard said:
Just checked it out, it doesn't look like it's RDP. Are there any RDP mobile clients that support 1024x768 resolution?
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it's true that it does not use MS remote desktop, it uses there own s/ware but it is truly excellent ! far superior to the MS stuff
Do any solutions offer remote sound so that I can hear my pc's sound on my phone? I've tried LogMeIn, the Z2 app, and the normal MS RD. None of them will actually let me hear the sound of my desktop (i.e. if I play a music file). LogMeIn says it supports remote sound on the Pro version, but I tried it, and it must only work with other desktop pc's and not pocket pc's.
if you want to listen to music from your computer at home, I suggest you install ORB as it is free of charges and excellent ! (+ you can watch videos from home too)
The sound quality over RDP is poor and scratchy, it is also buffered badly
How about this one: http://www.zatelnet.com/zadesktop/main.php
Haven't tried it so no idea, but it does say it supports 1024x768 over RDP
excellent
i have just started using LogMeIn for remote desktop, it is significantly better than RDP although requires a bit of set up.
for remote admin and access to standard windows apps from the Athena it is really very good.
Mocha
I installed the Mocha client and it works pretty good for 800x600.
The whole point of RDP is that it's standard on Windows PC's and it works well in low bandwidth much better than VNC. Don't get me wrong, I love VNC and have been using it for almost 10 years on my home PC.
However, I have a dozen Windows servers that must run 24 hours a day and I don't install ANYTHING on them if I can help it. It's a matter of stability.
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controlling the Universal via a PC
Hi, I'd like to control my HTC via my PC. I already have used the Microsoft remote display control host, but it's limited to QVGA, and doens't do VGA very well. Anybody knows where I can find a VGA version? TIA!
http://www.soti.net/default.asp?Cmd=Products&SubCmd=PCPro
mdaexecfan said: Hi, I'd like to control my HTC via my PC. I already have used the Microsoft remote display control host, but it's limited to QVGA, and doens't do VGA very well. Anybody knows where I can find a VGA version? TIA! Click to expand... Click to collapse Microsoft remote display control host works on VGA as well. I've managed to set it up on Universal and it looks great now, except it is a little slow. There's nice free workaround available on net. Another option is to set up a VNC server on your PPC and access it from anywhere on the net by any VNC client like tightVNC...
Thanks guys, I went with the SOTI pocket controller pro and I'm thrilled. It even does video recording and macros! Fundy: out of curiosity, how did you get VGA to work on MS remote display control ?
Recommend a better RDP client
I like some of the new features of Remote Desktop Client for WM6, however, it still lacks a simple feature that i want / need. ( at least i cannot figure it out ) I would like a true full screen client that will actually display my entire remote desktop and if I want to zoom in, it allows me to zoom to where i point the stylus. WM6 version has this but in reverse. I would like the whole window to display a super small version of my whole desktop and if i click somewhere, it would zoom there. does anyone have any suggetions of software that would do this. I do not mind running a software specific client on my desktop machine.
RDP with your features Use GoToMyPC. It allows for just this kind of functionality. I liked it, but will be trying the RDP in WM6 to see if that will suffice for me
Logmein is pretty good and free as well. You can scroll around the screen by tapping and holding near the edge of the display. You can also zoom out to see the entire screen shrunk to the display size. Make sure that you download a file for the PPC (don't recall where I found it, likely in the forums...), or it'll just cycle thru the login screen.
It can be downloaded using the PPC's Pocket IE. www.logmein.com
Increase Resolution? - Remote Desktop Mobile
Is there a way to increase the 6800s displayed resolution for remote desktop mobile. Tried all the settings & need to at least double res. Don't see any reg entries that deal with this.
I'd like to second this question. My wish would be for a remote desktop client that could "zoom out" to view a larger resolution, similar to how the Opera Mini or Picsel browsers work.
Have you guys tried LogMeIn dot com ? Unless I'm confused about your need, this remote client does what you're looking for. It runs my desktop at 640x480 and has a "fit to screen" size option (and 50%, 75%, 100% zoom). Performance is sluggish but usable over EVDO.
As crazy as this sounds, I now surf the internet almost exclusively through logmein.com because I honest to goodness think it's faster than regular surfing. Anyone with a Mogul/Titan that hasn't tried logmein.com and orb are really missing out.
cheesiest said: Have you guys tried LogMeIn dot com ? Unless I'm confused about your need, this remote client does what you're looking for. It runs my desktop at 640x480 and has a "fit to screen" size option (and 50%, 75%, 100% zoom). Performance is sluggish but usable over EVDO. Click to expand... Click to collapse rdp mobile also runs the host at 640x480, we were hoping for a client that would run the host at a higher resolution
I see, I did misread the question a bit. I agree that higher resolution on the desktop side is sometimes desirable. Like rivera I find myself surfing through logmein (doing it right now), but there are a few web sites that assume 800x600 or higher. Looks like I'm a +1 to the original poster now.
I'll try editing rdp mobile exe, see if we can get anywhere.
I tried logmein. I get the PDA site and when I go to the remote desktop or whatever the function it is to go to the desktop it always goes back to the same thing. I could see my files though. Does anyone know what exactly Im suppose to do to see the desktop.Thanks in advance.
three letters for you all: V N C VNC is the open source remote desktop client. Your device's resolution is always going to be 320x240 because that's physically how many dots there are. However, many VNC clients for PPC allow you to zoom in/out. Google it.
ya we know about VNC but i just prefer if i dont have anything external installed. rather used the ones built in the system. and i think RDM runs really fast and really well if they have higher resolution.
Nyditot http://www.nyditot.com/Home.asp Works with WM6 on the Mogul. Make sure you select FIT WIDTH in the options before rebooting and do not select "restart on reset" as you will not be able to get out of a loop if the program messes up the phone. Text is harder to read, and the Today screen looks iffy, but we browsing is better.
Maybe swearing in church but...
I saw a video here.. http://www.pdainfo.org/pagesitehtml.php?site=47&full=1 a bit down 2/07/08 They say that Diamond can act as a thin client for running full Windows operating systems and applications. As I understand it this is because of the VGA screen. Can you do this with the tytn and att what reslult? Shouldn't it be possible to exchange the screen of the tytn with the vga-screen of the Diamond? If you can buy that separately as you can with the tytn. Trying to decide what to buy....
Any WinMo device can do that. It's just the Terminal Services client installed on a PPC. as long as it has a method of communication (GPRS, Wifi, etc) and the correct user/password, you should be able to connect. it just depends on the application on the other side. If the boundries of the windows the specific app are greater than the resolution of the device... See where this is going? I admin my servers via TS all the time from my Tilt. It's a little funky due to the difference in resolutions between devices, but it works.
Just use a remote desktop client. LogMeIn for example. Kraize
Remote RDP app supports right click, scroll mouse, ctr/alt keys, and drag and drop
The primary reason I bought the transformer was to be an RDP client (I already had 2 other tablets). For the last week I've been disappointed (almost regretting my purchase) because the RDP support was so bad. I needed a true RDP client so MyCloud/Splashtop wasn't an option. I tried several: 1. Wyse Pocketcloud Lite and Pro (which I love on my phone) 2. 2X 3. XTRALOGIC They are all nice, but none of them are good enough for regular use. I need an RDP client that supports: - Full screen (auto-fit) resolution (1280x750?) - Right click (via usb mouse) - Drag and drop (via usb mouse) - Wheel mouse (via usb mouse) - alt/ctrl keys I finally found a solution: Remote RDP. It support all of the above. I didn't test the trackpad, but it worked great with a USB mouse. I've only used it for 20 minutes, but so far I'm fantastically impressed. Links: http://www.toremote.com/ https://market.android.com/details?id=org.toremote.rdpdemo&hl=en https://market.android.com/details?id=org.toremote.serversmanager Update: 2X has released an update that works OK with the transformer and android 3.2. Right click was working, but I can't get it working anymore.
Good timing on the post, as I was hoping to find one. I used Teamviewer but as it goes across the network I didn't want to deal with the latency since I only need access over my internal network. Are you using "Lite" or the paid version? I am wondering what ~$10.27 gets me in extra usage, but I will check this out tonight.
Gig103 said: Good timing on the post, as I was hoping to find one. I used Teamviewer but as it goes across the network I didn't want to deal with the latency since I only need access over my internal network. Are you using "Lite" or the paid version? I am wondering what ~$10.27 gets me in extra usage, but I will check this out tonight. Click to expand... Click to collapse For now I'm using the lite version, but if I don't run into any issues I'll be upgrading to the $10 version. The lite version doesn't have a special soft keyboard for the function keys, but the pro version allows you to save custom keyboard shortcuts (ex. ctrl+shift+f12) for quick use.
Remote RDP Lite, excellent client and I think it has all the features you mentioned although I can't try the drag and drop so I'm not sure. Edit: Sorry didn't see your edit!!
mattjsorensen said: The primary reason I bought the transformer was to be an RDP client (I already had 2 other tablets). For the last week I've been disappointed (almost regretting my purchase) because the RDP support was so bad. I needed a true RDP client so MyCloud/Splashtop wasn't an option. I tried several: 1. Wyse Pocketcloud Lite and Pro (which I love on my phone) 2. 2X 3. XTRALOGIC They are all nice, but none of them are good enough for regular use. I need an RDP client that supports: - Full screen (auto-fit) resolution (1280x750?) - Right click (via usb mouse) - Drag and drop (via usb mouse) - Wheel mouse (via usb mouse) - alt/ctrl keys I finally found a solution: Remote RDP. It support all of the above. I didn't test the trackpad, but it worked great with a USB mouse. I've only used it for 20 minutes, but so far I'm fantastically impressed. I cannot post a link, but you can find Remote RDP in the market or google for toremote. Click to expand... Click to collapse Sounds very interesting. Does it support video that writes directly to the frame buffer (eg. Windows Media Center in full screen mode)? What frame rates do you get? And any idea how much bandwidth it's consuming? I like Splashtop, but it'd be really nice to have an even more capable solution...
I've tried RemoteRDP, but couldn't ever get it to connect to my server running win 7 pro 64bit. Wyse Pocketcloud was the only one I could get to work without some sort of server program running on the computer (splashtop, vnc)
right click was one of the big ones, I sent the log to Remote RDP and he was able to do it within a few hours....which was excellent. However splashtop is slower, I sent them the same log/message basically and they still havent got time to do it. I guess they might be too busy? I love splashtop because it streams well, but the right click is such a essential feature.
GREAT to hear this! So glad app devs are starting to support features like right-click and scroll... great news. I'll try RemoteRDP soon... although my server will also be an x64 machine running Win7Pro. lordgodgeneral - let me know if you do get yours working (I'll do the same).
It's an excellent client. It would be perfect if he could get two finger scrolling to work with the TF touchpad.
The only problem I have is that it turnes off local keyboard (I don't have keyboard for Transformer).
OMG! This is awesome! Just tried RemoteRDP Lite and it worked "flawlessly". Everything works, including right-mouse button, drag-drop, cut/paste. This makes me soooo happy! Finally, I can use my Transformer the way it was supposed to be used Thank you for posting this. You made my day!
Win7 x64 works for me lordgodgeneral said: I've tried RemoteRDP, but couldn't ever get it to connect to my server running win 7 pro 64bit. Wyse Pocketcloud was the only one I could get to work without some sort of server program running on the computer (splashtop, vnc) Click to expand... Click to collapse I've been using it with Win7 x64 Pro on multiple machines (home and work). Works perfect in both cases. I also tested Sever 2008 and XP x86 (both work).
knoxploration said: Sounds very interesting. Does it support video that writes directly to the frame buffer (eg. Windows Media Center in full screen mode)? What frame rates do you get? And any idea how much bandwidth it's consuming? I like Splashtop, but it'd be really nice to have an even more capable solution... Click to expand... Click to collapse Running regular apps (no video; no games), it renders significantly faster than 2X, but it doesn't handle video as well as Splashtop. Splashtop is very impressive when it comes to streaming video.
mattjsorensen said: I've been using it with Win7 x64 Pro on multiple machines (home and work). Works perfect in both cases. I also tested Sever 2008 and XP x86 (both work). Click to expand... Click to collapse What settings/tricks did you use on the app to get it to connect? I just couldn't ever get it to go. I used the same settings for both RemoteRDP and Wyse, but just kept getting a connection refused on remoteRDP. Wyse worked from the first shot.
lordgodgeneral said: What settings/tricks did you use on the app to get it to connect? I just couldn't ever get it to go. I used the same settings for both RemoteRDP and Wyse, but just kept getting a connection refused on remoteRDP. Wyse worked from the first shot. Click to expand... Click to collapse I don't know of any trick. I set the following fields: - host to my ip address - port to 3389 - username = xxxx - password = xxxx - screen = autofit I left everything else to the default. All of the other RDP clients worked fine for me as well (with Win7 x64). Oh, wait. When I originally setup RDP on my Win 7 box, I did select "Allow connections from computer running any version of Remote Desktop". If you don't select that, you must have an NLA capable client. I haven't tried it, but Remote RDP Enterprise claims to support NLA.
2X now has has great mouse + keyboard support I just installed the latest update to 2X. It now supports: - USB mouse - scroll wheel - ctrl/alt keys - right click - drag/drop It also has the virtual keyboard for function keys that Report RDP doesn't handle as well.
if somebody can find the Remote RDP non-lite and non-enterprise holla, the enterprise one crashes and the lite one is missing sound and stuff
mattjsorensen said: I just installed the latest update to 2X. It now supports: - USB mouse - scroll wheel - ctrl/alt keys - right click - drag/drop It also has the virtual keyboard for function keys that Report RDP doesn't handle as well. Click to expand... Click to collapse Great! Hopefully Splashtop will add support for these soon, too...
Why not use VNC client and a mouse? Mouse should work in USB port. I have not tried, but it seems a good option.
Bob Smith42 said: Why not use VNC client and a mouse? Click to expand... Click to collapse Because Splashtop is so far without equal in terms of framerate. It's possible to watch fullscreen video with audio on the tablet via a desktop or notebook PC, without significant degradation. At the moment, it's basically the only way to watch Netflix on the Transformer, too.